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legendary
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December 07, 2019, 08:46:11 AM

According to my understanding, true Christian is someone who put God on the first place in his life,  someone who chose God father and his son Jesus and follow their words in everyday life.
True scientist is also someone who respect nature as God's creation and understand that they can only discover Heavenly secrets in their work since God created everything including narural laws.

But how does one put God first in life? Isn't it by doing the one major thing that God wants? "God would have all men (and women) to be saved, and to come to the knowledge of the truth."

This world is going to be destroyed in the Lake of Fire talked about in the Revelation. Sure, we are living in this world that is going down. So we need to follow some of the laws of nature. But the focus should be directed at the New Heavens and New Earth talked about in the Revelation and in Isaiah. The only way to get to the New one and be saved out of the old one, is to trust in Jesus, that He has done what it takes to get us there. It's that simple.

Then, by living the life that Jesus asks, we show - to ourselves as well as to others - that we are believing and trusting in Jesus. Such a God-fearing life also shows other people that they can be saved, as well.

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legendary
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December 06, 2019, 10:22:40 PM
Religion was a unified form of law and instructions. They consisted scientific study as well as taught healthy habits. God was filled wherever they needed to caution the reader. They needed a power to fear whenever the presence of human authority was not available.
Science is the systematic study through observation and experiments. There are no places for assumptions.
As, religion also consisted of science, they look similar to that point.
legendary
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December 06, 2019, 09:57:32 AM
I just hope Christianity will be gone one day. At least as it exists now. It's a very hypocrite religion.
In fact, your point is very true, but it's trying to praise science, while I think science can only give us . limited vision of the world. We won't see what we are not able to see. And the existing of such areas that are not attainable by human knowledge is what the science is trying to deny, which is pretty stupid IMO.

Christianity is a very broad term and can't be generalized and viewed equally.
Christianity has helped many people to reach the Son of God, Jesus, and through Him to reach God, and this should be respected.
We say that politicians are bad and corrupt, but we are aware that they are necessary and that we can't live without them, right?  Grin Grin
In my opinion, science reveals to us the physical aspects of what God created and religion the invisible, spiritual aspects.
Religion and science complement each other very well.

But true Christianity is not broad. All Christianity is, is people believing in Jesus as their Savior for eternal life. All the rest of it is what a person believes makes up parts of Christianity.

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The difficult question is, who really is a true Christian and who is just a formal one.
How to define it or how to distinguish a true Christian from a false one?
The answer probably lies at the heart of each of us.
A good scientist can also be a good Christian, and one does not exclude the other, just the opposite Smiley
In fact, both the Christian and the scientist reveal the mysteries of God, one internal and the other external.


It might be nice to know who is a true Christian... a Jesus-salvation believer. But why?

There are lots of wolves in sheep's clothing. You judge them by what they do, and how they repent by changing their life when they are confronted with their mistakes. "By their fruits you will know them"

But we are talking about science and religion. See the full definition of religion at https://www.dictionary.com/browse/religion?s=t to understand that all scientists are religious one way or another. This doesn't mean that they are necessarily Christian.

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According to my understanding, true Christian is someone who put God on the first place in his life,  someone who chose God father and his son Jesus and follow their words in everyday life.
True scientist is also someone who respect nature as God's creation and understand that they can only discover Heavenly secrets in their work since God created everything including narural laws.
legendary
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Merit: 1373
December 05, 2019, 02:17:56 PM
I just hope Christianity will be gone one day. At least as it exists now. It's a very hypocrite religion.
In fact, your point is very true, but it's trying to praise science, while I think science can only give us . limited vision of the world. We won't see what we are not able to see. And the existing of such areas that are not attainable by human knowledge is what the science is trying to deny, which is pretty stupid IMO.

Christianity is a very broad term and can't be generalized and viewed equally.
Christianity has helped many people to reach the Son of God, Jesus, and through Him to reach God, and this should be respected.
We say that politicians are bad and corrupt, but we are aware that they are necessary and that we can't live without them, right?  Grin Grin
In my opinion, science reveals to us the physical aspects of what God created and religion the invisible, spiritual aspects.
Religion and science complement each other very well.

But true Christianity is not broad. All Christianity is, is people believing in Jesus as their Savior for eternal life. All the rest of it is what a person believes makes up parts of Christianity.

Cool

The difficult question is, who really is a true Christian and who is just a formal one.
How to define it or how to distinguish a true Christian from a false one?
The answer probably lies at the heart of each of us.
A good scientist can also be a good Christian, and one does not exclude the other, just the opposite Smiley
In fact, both the Christian and the scientist reveal the mysteries of God, one internal and the other external.


It might be nice to know who is a true Christian... a Jesus-salvation believer. But why?

There are lots of wolves in sheep's clothing. You judge them by what they do, and how they repent by changing their life when they are confronted with their mistakes. "By their fruits you will know them"

But we are talking about science and religion. See the full definition of religion at https://www.dictionary.com/browse/religion?s=t to understand that all scientists are religious one way or another. This doesn't mean that they are necessarily Christian.

Cool


legendary
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December 05, 2019, 12:05:52 PM
I just hope Christianity will be gone one day. At least as it exists now. It's a very hypocrite religion.
In fact, your point is very true, but it's trying to praise science, while I think science can only give us . limited vision of the world. We won't see what we are not able to see. And the existing of such areas that are not attainable by human knowledge is what the science is trying to deny, which is pretty stupid IMO.

Christianity is a very broad term and can't be generalized and viewed equally.
Christianity has helped many people to reach the Son of God, Jesus, and through Him to reach God, and this should be respected.
We say that politicians are bad and corrupt, but we are aware that they are necessary and that we can't live without them, right?  Grin Grin
In my opinion, science reveals to us the physical aspects of what God created and religion the invisible, spiritual aspects.
Religion and science complement each other very well.

But true Christianity is not broad. All Christianity is, is people believing in Jesus as their Savior for eternal life. All the rest of it is what a person believes makes up parts of Christianity.

Cool

The difficult question is, who really is a true Christian and who is just a formal one.
How to define it or how to distinguish a true Christian from a false one?
The answer probably lies at the heart of each of us.
A good scientist can also be a good Christian, and one does not exclude the other, just the opposite Smiley
In fact, both the Christian and the scientist reveal the mysteries of God, one internal and the other external.


legendary
Activity: 3850
Merit: 1373
December 04, 2019, 02:04:51 PM
I just hope Christianity will be gone one day. At least as it exists now. It's a very hypocrite religion.
In fact, your point is very true, but it's trying to praise science, while I think science can only give us . limited vision of the world. We won't see what we are not able to see. And the existing of such areas that are not attainable by human knowledge is what the science is trying to deny, which is pretty stupid IMO.

Christianity is a very broad term and can't be generalized and viewed equally.
Christianity has helped many people to reach the Son of God, Jesus, and through Him to reach God, and this should be respected.
We say that politicians are bad and corrupt, but we are aware that they are necessary and that we can't live without them, right?  Grin Grin
In my opinion, science reveals to us the physical aspects of what God created and religion the invisible, spiritual aspects.
Religion and science complement each other very well.

But true Christianity is not broad. All Christianity is, is people believing in Jesus as their Savior for eternal life. All the rest of it is what a person believes makes up parts of Christianity.

Cool
legendary
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December 04, 2019, 12:52:46 PM
I just hope Christianity will be gone one day. At least as it exists now. It's a very hypocrite religion.
In fact, your point is very true, but it's trying to praise science, while I think science can only give us . limited vision of the world. We won't see what we are not able to see. And the existing of such areas that are not attainable by human knowledge is what the science is trying to deny, which is pretty stupid IMO.

Christianity is a very broad term and can't be generalized and viewed equally.
Christianity has helped many people to reach the Son of God, Jesus, and through Him to reach God, and this should be respected.
We say that politicians are bad and corrupt, but we are aware that they are necessary and that we can't live without them, right?  Grin Grin
In my opinion, science reveals to us the physical aspects of what God created and religion the invisible, spiritual aspects.
Religion and science complement each other very well.
jr. member
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December 04, 2019, 12:09:23 PM
I just hope Christianity will be gone one day. At least as it exists now. It's a very hypocrite religion.
In fact, your point is very true, but it's trying to praise science, while I think science can only give us . limited vision of the world. We won't see what we are not able to see. And the existing of such areas that are not attainable by human knowledge is what the science is trying to deny, which is pretty stupid IMO.
legendary
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Merit: 1373
December 04, 2019, 07:42:55 AM
If you took all the religions in the world and destroyed them, in 1000 years there would be entirely new religions, completely different from the old religions...

If you took all the science in the world and destroyed it... in 1000 years there would be EXACTLY THE SAME SCIENCE

Mathematics is not something invented by humans, it is discovered by humans... mathematics is the same in any language, on any planet... 1 + 1 = 2 is a provable concept and does not change based on societal norms or which deities they currently worship

Newton and Leibniz are credited with the co-discovery of calculus... they did not invent it, they both discovered it at the same time... math/science is universal, religion is not

If you took all the religions in the world and destroyed them, in 1000 years there would be entirely new religions, completely different from the old religions...

If you took all the science in the world and destroyed it... in 1000 years there would be EXACTLY THE SAME SCIENCE

Mathematics is not something invented by humans, it is discovered by humans... mathematics is the same in any language, on any planet... 1 + 1 = 2 is a provable concept and does not change based on societal norms or which deities they currently worship

Newton and Leibniz are credited with the co-discovery of calculus... they did not invent it, they both discovered it at the same time... math/science is universal, religion is not

To compare Religion with Science is a broad topic that need to be looked into properly so as to actually know the differences between them.
Religion is an act of faith, believe and worship to a more higher  supreme being of which have been able over the years to meet the needs of its followers  and worshipers.Such Religion have a Holy book which all its adherent read and believe in. The most three common Religion is 1. Islamic Religion, 2. Christian Religion and 3. African Traditional Religion. The first two aforementioned Religion are the dominance of the three Religions. The Islamic Religion and the christian Religion both have their Holy books which actually throw more light to how the Science it self came about.
The Christian Religion started its Narrative on how God started the Creation of the World and all that we see in the world today, all being God's Creative work and not science. Also the Creation of man was also stated how God Formed man from dust.
The science on the other hand was trying to say that man metamorphosed from Ape to become a man from their own theory.The Science is yet to prove the the following which almost all the religion believe in,
1. that is the existence of a higher supreme being which is responsible for all this creative work,Known as God.  
2. The Fact that Jesus came die and on the third day rose from the death and ascended to heaven, and sitting at the right hand side of God.
3.That there is Heaven,cos all scientific discovery stops at the discovery of about Nine (9) planets.
4.That Science talks about law of Gravity , Laws of flotation, Newton law of motion ...etc, Jesus walk on water, Peter the disciple also walk on water and began to sink as a result of fear, how can science explain this?
5 What can Science say about the ascension of Christ, does any law of the science stop Jesus from Ascending to heaven?
All the above points is just to prove a point that God is the creator of all things including all that the scientist have been able to invent today, all wisdom and Knowledge came from God Almighty.
The same God wants us to worship him under a particular Religion of our choice, but science on the other hand have no power over humans for the purpose of worshiping or serving science.
Religion happens to be the bedrock for which science  came about.

Religion isn't necessarily the Christian religion.

Religion has to do with finding the answers that a person needs to be reasonably comfortable in life... not fearful about the future. Science has found a few of the answers. But it is trusted with way more things than it has found answers for. This makes science a religion for those who trust in it.

Religion is way more foundational. Science is new(ish), and involves trust just as much as any other religion.

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December 01, 2019, 04:38:28 PM
If you took all the religions in the world and destroyed them, in 1000 years there would be entirely new religions, completely different from the old religions...

If you took all the science in the world and destroyed it... in 1000 years there would be EXACTLY THE SAME SCIENCE

Mathematics is not something invented by humans, it is discovered by humans... mathematics is the same in any language, on any planet... 1 + 1 = 2 is a provable concept and does not change based on societal norms or which deities they currently worship

Newton and Leibniz are credited with the co-discovery of calculus... they did not invent it, they both discovered it at the same time... math/science is universal, religion is not

If you took all the religions in the world and destroyed them, in 1000 years there would be entirely new religions, completely different from the old religions...

If you took all the science in the world and destroyed it... in 1000 years there would be EXACTLY THE SAME SCIENCE

Mathematics is not something invented by humans, it is discovered by humans... mathematics is the same in any language, on any planet... 1 + 1 = 2 is a provable concept and does not change based on societal norms or which deities they currently worship

Newton and Leibniz are credited with the co-discovery of calculus... they did not invent it, they both discovered it at the same time... math/science is universal, religion is not

To compare Religion with Science is a broad topic that need to be looked into properly so as to actually know the differences between them.
Religion is an act of faith, believe and worship to a more higher  supreme being of which have been able over the years to meet the needs of its followers  and worshipers.Such Religion have a Holy book which all its adherent read and believe in. The most three common Religion is 1. Islamic Religion, 2. Christian Religion and 3. African Traditional Religion. The first two aforementioned Religion are the dominance of the three Religions. The Islamic Religion and the christian Religion both have their Holy books which actually throw more light to how the Science it self came about.
The Christian Religion started its Narrative on how God started the Creation of the World and all that we see in the world today, all being God's Creative work and not science. Also the Creation of man was also stated how God Formed man from dust.
The science on the other hand was trying to say that man metamorphosed from Ape to become a man from their own theory.The Science is yet to prove the the following which almost all the religion believe in,
1. that is the existence of a higher supreme being which is responsible for all this creative work,Known as God.  
2. The Fact that Jesus came die and on the third day rose from the death and ascended to heaven, and sitting at the right hand side of God.
3.That there is Heaven,cos all scientific discovery stops at the discovery of about Nine (9) planets.
4.That Science talks about law of Gravity , Laws of flotation, Newton law of motion ...etc, Jesus walk on water, Peter the disciple also walk on water and began to sink as a result of fear, how can science explain this?
5 What can Science say about the ascension of Christ, does any law of the science stop Jesus from Ascending to heaven?
All the above points is just to prove a point that God is the creator of all things including all that the scientist have been able to invent today, all wisdom and Knowledge came from God Almighty.
The same God wants us to worship him under a particular Religion of our choice, but science on the other hand have no power over humans for the purpose of worshiping or serving science.
Religion happens to be the bedrock for which science  came about.
sr. member
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December 01, 2019, 10:08:50 AM
Science is true whether you believe it or not, it is the reason we live in comforts of our lives with the inventions of scientist that is now useful in our everyday lives we have develop and discovered many things. Without science we would still be stuck in bronze age where we know nothing of our planet and the solar system. Religion doesn't hold any evidence but lies and it has halted the progress of humans for quite some time even chained women of their freedom but many people are reasonable enough and waking up not to believe to a book full of murder, incest, racist, sexist and genocide is supposed to be god's words ?
legendary
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December 01, 2019, 08:25:07 AM
Science is the art of reporting the propaganda of the Pharmaceutical companies as facts. Religion is the art of blaming the ensuing deaths on God, and not the global corporations.
sr. member
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November 30, 2019, 08:13:32 PM
Science if about observations and facts, religion is about faith.
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November 29, 2019, 07:45:59 PM
Most science build their theorie on reproducible experiment.

Religion based on dogma.
legendary
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November 29, 2019, 07:40:20 PM
Religion tells us what exists. Science is the often futile method for trying to prove how religion is right.

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November 29, 2019, 06:15:35 PM
Christianity for example has lasted more than 2000 years. On what basis then do you say that it won't be around in the next 1000 years?

Egyptian gods were worshiped for a few thousand years. Now gone. Greek gods. Now gone. Old Norse religion. Gone. Semitic religion. Gone. Mesopotamian religion. Gone. Babylonian. Gone. Celtic polytheism. Gone. Etc. Etc. Etc.

The number of extinct religions vastly outnumbers the number of practicing religions. On what basis then do you say that Christianity will still be around in 1000 years, especially since we are proving more and more of Christian doctrine demonstrably false?

We believe in religions based on bibles
We believe in science based on evidence
But there are things that cannot be explain by science, like how this world started, that only bible can tell since all theories about the beginnings has not yet been proven
legendary
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Religion provides answers based on evidence, eye witness accounts, and personal experience... just like science.
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I simply use the words "anecdotal evidence"

Yes. Doing the thinking to prove via thinking, is very difficult.

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I agree. Would you say anecdotal evidences are extremely powerful convincers to the person who experienced it?

Only to those who breeze by without doing studious examinations.

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Religion provides answers based on evidence, eye witness accounts, and personal experience... just like science.
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I simply use the words "anecdotal evidence"

Yes. Doing the thinking to prove via thinking, is very difficult.

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I agree. Would you say anecdotal evidences are extremely powerful convincers to the person who experienced it?
legendary
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Religion provides answers based on evidence, eye witness accounts, and personal experience... just like science.
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I simply use the words "anecdotal evidence"

Yes. Doing the thinking to prove via thinking, is very difficult.

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Religion provides answers based on evidence, eye witness accounts, and personal experience... just like science.
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I simply use the words "anecdotal evidence"
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