Topic: The difference between science and religion - page 23. (Read 6490 times)

Proof please.
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The only proof is when you visit and see them probably make rain in a place where meteorological report has forecasted there will be no rain. Or withhold rain for days in the middle of rainy season. Road Construction Companies hire them for the job. It might sound rocket science to you but it is very simple only that they wouldn't reveal the secrete to anyone outside their circles. I guess you would be shocked to see it happen but that's not all they can do.

Proof please.

Don't get so excited about weather forecast 10 days ahead cos in my local traditional religion, those guys can't just only forecast weather, they can as well control it. On a rainy day, they can stop the rain. In the midst of rainy season, the can withhold rain for days up to a week and beyond. That's what I'm talking about. Paradventure our central government was committed to scientific developments, they would have sent guys to go check how those people are producing such results and see if they could refine it scientifically. Now, if they had done so and published it on journals you would celebrate the end product relegating the source to junk. And like I said, this is one of their numerous abilities.
However, scientific forecast is limited. There are areas of life you can't predict the future on but religion is doing marvellously well. I guess you know "Nostrademus!". He is a global figure. You may check out his predictions or forecast then you will understand what I am talking about. Note that he is just one man. There are several men like him. It's just that his work gained global prominence. These conflict in ideas has been hampering our harnessing our potential because one group will think they are better than the other. They will want to strive for suproirity rather than seek partnership.
Let's see these two regions of ontology as different means to one end. Let us not discard religion on one or few premise like most people do.

Religion denies any other sources of truth other than the ones written in the book, while science constantly changes its views and understandings based on facts and data. 

Science is about evidence. Any published speech must be supported by evidence to get everyone's approval, and religion relies on faith! Faith from the heart!

Science is the answer to the questions in the world. It's basically saying that every phenomena has a reason for its existence. Religion on the other hand, is saying that something exists because it was created. And who created that creator? Religion would then say he exists because he exists. This would be the basic idea of their reasoning in every argument. Basically, Science and Religion should or rather would never meet. They are completely on the opposite ends of a spectrum.

In my opinion, the difference is to find the source of the truth.
Science proves why there is. As for religion, they think everything is from God.

On some subject you just need to shut it. The ignorance is profound...

Pick your favorite location at Weather Underground - https://www.wunderground.com/. Check the 10-day forecast. The forecast changes as many as 6 or more times a day, and certainly every day to the next.

I expect that there are tranquil locations where the 10-day barely changes throughout the whole 10 days. But there are other place where the weather is wilder, and predictions can change hourly, throughout the day.

There isn't as much known about the weather as we think.

I recommend that, as part of their training, forecasting meteorologists be required to earn $100,000 in the stock market, in the year that they are accepted on the weather job. This would weed out the fakers from those who really know how to forecast accurately. We might wind up without a weather channel, which would be beneficial to us all.

He is one of only a handful that made my ignore list.

Life is much better.  You can vistit posts that mention relgion without being confronted with patronizing smilies at the end of every post.

I don't think so.

I am quite familiar with modern weather forecasting. It's quite good up to 10 days, and this has came to be by using supercomputers.

Weather forecasting is not "a feat" but it is impossible for it to be a thing that could be claimed to be done by a religion.

There is not much things I know how to differentiate religion from science.  It is the simplest thing old school have told us.  With religion, God made Adam and Eve and that was creation.  Then science as per them that we have came from monkeys by the process of evolution.  As simple as that only I know.

Science is the physical explanation of our natural world while religion is a supernatural revelation of our natural world.
This I believe will be difficult for the atheist to believe because he does not believe in the existence of God and might also be difficult for those who are opposed to christianity to believe. But as a Christian scientist, I believe and can proof reasonably that both are different means to one end.

From the creation account, after God created man, being just, he didn't leave him ignorant of his natural world and how to interact with it. However, when man disobeyed God, theologians believe he, God, destroyed the garden of Eden, but I rather think that is a figurative speech. "What is so special about this garden that man will miss?" I will always ask. I think what the scriptures meant by destroying the garden must be "the destruction or withdrawal of the knowledge of how man can interact with his immediate environment. And when he said that he will toil and till the ground before he can eat, I believe he, God, meant man will suffer before he will regain mastery of the Earth. And don't just start blaming God and seeing him as wicked because every system that wants to maitain balance must have checks and consequences for going against the rules. Bitcointalk forum has, your country has, mine has too. Check the crime rate in countries that have decided to relax theirs and compare it with those of the countries that have decided to enforce theirs religiously, may be you will understand why God did what he did. That was the premise on which religion and science were born. HOW?
Remember science is defined as a body of knowledge or a systematic enquiry into nature. When Man's knowledge was withdrawn, he started doing things by trial and error. Things that worked were celebrated. The process leading to such result was preserved and handed over to the next generation. Gradually, man's knowledge of the principles guiding his environment grew to what we know today as science. BUT WHAT HAS THAT GOT TO DO WITH religion?
Remember man's mastery of his natural environment was a very slow one. There are archeological proofs of ancient communities that once existed but somehow went into extinction for reasons no one can clearly asertain till date but with high belief that most cases were due to adverse conditions. That means man must have gone through monstrous ordeals to come this far. However, God in his infinite mercies could not sit and watch his creation suffer. But he could not reverse his judgement because he is just so he had to release information about how to survive through some difficult situations to some persons who will share the idea with his community. When this idea works the community in appreciation will set up a system of appreciating the source of such revelational knowledge and that was how religious worship emanated. So the people will continue with the practice for their survival until someone could explain it physically then when it's physical explanation has been gotten people will start working on it to see how they could apply the process to other situations. Therefore, through religion, man knew that some heights were scalable. And by explaining revelational knowledge later on using physical parameters gotten through observation, he knew he could solve more problems by studying events that happen around him. Thus, religion inspired scientific advancement.
Now, because man has seen so much development via scientific advancement, he then thinks religion is bluff. There are several things happening in our present day, that men predicted accurately several years back without scientific aid. Today, meteorologist forecast weather conditions and the world is celebrating. In my traditional religion, there are so many feats these men achieve at a lower cost than using scientific methods. Examples include finding missing items, controlling weather condition etc.
I am not relegating any of the above mentioned issues to the background but I am only saying that while both are means to same end, religion inspired scientific advancements. And religion is still ahead of science in helping man understand and subdue his challenges. Don't get it twisted because of bigots that have made a mess of religion.

No.

Most religions seem to be incompatible with each other.

Religious nut jobs are forever killing every one else in the name of their one true god, same cant be said about mathematicians.

He did this in Jesus the Rock. The Rock, Jesus, lifted Itself/Himself for God.

However, what does this have to do with the difference between science and religion?

Science in a way starts and closures with human interest to specific inquiries. These inquiries prompts revelations yet in the event that you ask me, those disclosures are not simply arbitrary event but rather fated supernaturally to be so. Religion then again depends on confidence in the heavenly that may not require logical demonstrate to confirm it. It exists in itself.
As you probably are aware, we are made of fragile living creature and soul. No one has ever demonstrated that we are made of spirits. We can see our tissue. We can't see our soul. We can feel it. When we dream, we realize what we can see and we comprehend that we are not just fragile living creature and bones. It is in this way evident that science and religion must cooperate to find and settle the puzzles of our human advancements. They should not battle but rather coordinate.

Can almighty God create a rock that is so heavy he can't lift it? If not, he is not almighty. If yes and he can't lift this rock, he is not almighty either.

You mean like Lt Gen Leslie Groves, son of a pastor, who directed the Manhattan project? Or J. Robert Oppenheimer, a Jew, who was lead scientist? Or maybe Robert Serber, also a Jew, who wrote The Los Alamos Primer?

Not only were the morals of the religious not trying to stop the development, but they were the ones who were in charge of the development.

Another 100% made up lie brought to you by BADecker. Do you not realize that people know how to use Google? Your nonsense can be refuted by a 5 year old.

So you think that God created the universe, but didn't have the power to call polar bears to Noah in the ark?

So you think that climates around the world were exactly the same today as they were 4500 years ago in the time of Noah?

You really need to start thinking a little, if only for your own general good.