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Topic: The effect the mixer ban has had on the forum. - page 5. (Read 4426 times)

legendary
Activity: 1372
Merit: 2017
Taking a look at the other forum, I see that there are a couple of mixer campaigns that have been "paused" but it looks like they are over for good. It seems that the pressure from the authorities is having an effect and that theymos was on the right track with this issue.
legendary
Activity: 2352
Merit: 6089
bitcoindata.science
You can help with that by adding backlinks to BitMixList on your site, to anyone whose reading this not specifically you.

Right now I am languishing somewhere on page 2 or 3 on Google Search results and its not pretty.

I have figured out a long time ago that paying people for backlinks is a waste of time (and money), so this thing is going to have to grow organically.

If you guys can do that, well, there is a huge table of trustworthy mixers on the front page, so I don't see anyone getting scammed by phishing sites anymore when they type "best bitcoin mixer" or something like that.

It is hard to climb up in Google searches, and it certainly takes time and some effort adding all stuff google requires.

I made a quick check a few months ago and saw you were doing most of basic SEO stuff already...

I was able to climb relatively high in some google searches in my domain, specifically in terms  "multiple address balances" and some stuff like that. But it takes time. My domain is already 4y old... I have thousands of Blacklinks from bitcointalk, some from mozzilla, github and even small news qebsite,... you will get some as the year passes..
legendary
Activity: 2730
Merit: 7065
I have figured out a long time ago that paying people for backlinks is a waste of time (and money), so this thing is going to have to grow organically.
Anyone who writes content that is supposed to get a high rank on Google knows there is on-page and off-page optimization. Your on-page content has to answer the questions that led visitors to your site. Off-page optimization is backlinks and guest posts. I have heard of companies spending tens of thousands of dollars per month on backlinks. I would say they are absolutely necessary if you are creating content in an industry where it's very difficult to get organic backlinks. They can also backfire horribly and make Google punish your site and restrict it from appearing in search results if their algorithms conclude you paid for those links.
legendary
Activity: 2212
Merit: 7064
I suck at designing signatures myself so I would have to shell out a few hundred to jayce if I want to make another set of signatures. Smiley
You might want to talk with members who already have or had similar free signature campaigns in forum.
I don't think it's that much expensive to make simple signature and there are also members who can do this job for free, since you don't need anything complicated or fancy with many elements.
legendary
Activity: 1372
Merit: 2017
~snip

So how did you end up teleporting there? You didn't seem to think very highly of that forum at first, from what you said in this very thread. I imagine you got a good deal on your signature.

legendary
Activity: 1568
Merit: 6660
bitcoincleanup.com / bitmixlist.org
I have figured out a long time ago that paying people for backlinks is a waste of time (and money), so this thing is going to have to grow organically.
I couldn't agree with you because I didn't think you were right. You said paying for backlinks to rank sites was a waste of time and wrong.
Good quality backlinks are on the first page of site results and look very good. If you go to a good SEO expert, he will give you a good direction for your site. Either way, your site will rank on Google and stay on the first page.
There are many categories of backlinks. If you can get backlinks organically, those links will be stubbled for a long time.

It is quite hard to convince people to backlink to me on social media.

Also I don't have thousands of dollars to spend on SEO... I am working within a budget. Likely that is the minimum amount you need to even get a decent DA these days. Even the mixers themselves used to pay Yahoo News for a sponsored article.

You can help with that by adding backlinks to BitMixList on your site, to anyone whose reading this not specifically you.
There are a couple of websites that collect and list all bitcoin resources in a single website, something like crypto register.
I think it would be useful to get BitMixList listed there, and in other crypto forums.
Another idea is to create a free BitMixList signature campaigns, that is not against the rules I think Wink

I suck at designing signatures myself so I would have to shell out a few hundred to jayce if I want to make another set of signatures. Smiley
legendary
Activity: 2212
Merit: 7064
A few months or years from now, when most of the legitimate mixers have stopped business or shutdown. It's going to be so hard for an average user to discover and trustworthy mixer through honest reviews that have been a common thing on Bitcointalk. Scammers are going to take advantage of the void left by the forum to create fake reviews that list their scam sites.
It's not like bitcointalk forum was our only source of knowledge about mixers, so nothing much will change, and we can still warn people about suspicious mixers here.

You can help with that by adding backlinks to BitMixList on your site, to anyone whose reading this not specifically you.
There are a couple of websites that collect and list all bitcoin resources in a single website, something like crypto register.
I think it would be useful to get BitMixList listed there, and in other crypto forums.
Another idea is to create a free BitMixList signature campaigns, that is not against the rules I think Wink
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 57
I have figured out a long time ago that paying people for backlinks is a waste of time (and money), so this thing is going to have to grow organically.
I couldn't agree with you because I didn't think you were right. You said paying for backlinks to rank sites was a waste of time and wrong.
Good quality backlinks are on the first page of site results and look very good. If you go to a good SEO expert, he will give you a good direction for your site. Either way, your site will rank on Google and stay on the first page.
There are many categories of backlinks. If you can get backlinks organically, those links will be stubbled for a long time.

I am also sharing 2-1 sites I have worked on that are still in good standing. Submitting backlinks in multiple ways will undoubtedly save you money and time.

1: https://www.aaxel.ca/
2: https://www.crossroadshelpline.com/
I have worked on these myself on the site, and they are still in good position. The backlinks to these sites that I took myself have worked very well.
legendary
Activity: 1568
Merit: 6660
bitcoincleanup.com / bitmixlist.org
A few months or years from now, when most of the legitimate mixers have stopped business or shutdown. It's going to be so hard for an average user to discover and trustworthy mixer through honest reviews that have been a common thing on Bitcointalk. Scammers are going to take advantage of the void left by the forum to create fake reviews that list their scam sites.

Maybe Reddit could try, but altcointalks doesn't even appear in the first pages of most search results.

You can help with that by adding backlinks to BitMixList on your site, to anyone whose reading this not specifically you.

Right now I am languishing somewhere on page 2 or 3 on Google Search results and its not pretty.

I have figured out a long time ago that paying people for backlinks is a waste of time (and money), so this thing is going to have to grow organically.

If you guys can do that, well, there is a huge table of trustworthy mixers on the front page, so I don't see anyone getting scammed by phishing sites anymore when they type "best bitcoin mixer" or something like that.
copper member
Activity: 2114
Merit: 1814
฿itcoin for all, All for ฿itcoin.
We are talking about the effects of the mixer ban on the forum, they mainly look at signatures, paid posts and whether someone has written more or less before.

But what about the actual effect of the mixer ban and reduced discussions about mixers?

Here is an example https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5491818 One guy registered to report a potential scam from a well-known mixer here.
A few days ago, information appeared about a problem with this service, so the question arose as to why this user did not do research first. But where should he do research? on a forum where the presence of mixers is prohibited?
Just a couple of months earlier, there would have been much clearer warnings.

Of course, Bitcointalk cannot cover all cases, but it has certainly lost part of its importance as a relevant source of information, due to the exclusion of the mixer.

A few months or years from now, when most of the legitimate mixers have stopped business or shutdown. It's going to be so hard for an average user to discover and trustworthy mixer through honest reviews that have been a common thing on Bitcointalk. Scammers are going to take advantage of the void left by the forum to create fake reviews that list their scam sites.

Maybe Reddit could try, but altcointalks doesn't even appear in the first pages of most search results.
legendary
Activity: 3472
Merit: 3507
Crypto Swap Exchange
We are talking about the effects of the mixer ban on the forum, they mainly look at signatures, paid posts and whether someone has written more or less before.

But what about the actual effect of the mixer ban and reduced discussions about mixers?

Here is an example https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5491818 One guy registered to report a potential scam from a well-known mixer here.
A few days ago, information appeared about a problem with this service, so the question arose as to why this user did not do research first. But where should he do research? on a forum where the presence of mixers is prohibited?
Just a couple of months earlier, there would have been much clearer warnings.

Of course, Bitcointalk cannot cover all cases, but it has certainly lost part of its importance as a relevant source of information, due to the exclusion of the mixer.
legendary
Activity: 3500
Merit: 6320
Crypto Swap Exchange
Just as a follow up to my last post. I am at this moment in a campaign that pays well. Before the ban I was in a different one that paid better.
My post count has dropped. But it has nothing to do with the pay. Since the start of the year I have:

1) Had to do an office move

2) While trying to clean up more stuff. I fell WAY behind on this project: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/the-why-is-davef-selling-all-this-stuff-all-of-a-sudden-post-5455887 [I have sold more things in eBay in the last 60 days then I did in all of 2023]

3) A few other clean up projects that sucked hours out of my life.

So as they say correlation does not imply causation.

-Dave

legendary
Activity: 1372
Merit: 2017
Not entirely true, IMO. His activity isn't tied to the mixer ban. In fact, most of last year even before the mixer ban, he was on and off according to my observation. I remember he used to also be a very huge merit source as well, but over the last couple of years, that activity also dropped.  Maybe he now has a lot of stuff happening outside the forum. You can never know.

Of course, suchmoon has been an irregular poster and the supposed pattern that Og has seen has nothing to do with the mixer ban, as he had months and seasons that he wrote less before, as could be seen in the months I have referred to in 2023 but that is seen by anyone except Og.
copper member
Activity: 2114
Merit: 1814
฿itcoin for all, All for ฿itcoin.
Well, suchmoon had...

74 posts in December
29 posts in January
10 posts in February
4 posts in March

...so I would say that the mixer ban has had a positive effect on reducing activity among shitposters who only participate here for money.  In the case of suchmoon, we're talking nearly a 95% reduction in 90 days after the ban!  That's an absolutely amazing development.  I hope we see this continue and spread to other shitposters as well who provide nothing for this forum but drama while leeching funds from the community that could go towards supporting creators of goods and services.  

If you needed evidence that the mixer ban has already improved the community.  Here it is.
Not entirely true, IMO. His activity isn't tied to the mixer ban. In fact, most of last year even before the mixer ban, he was on and off according to my observation. I remember he used to also be a very huge merit source as well, but over the last couple of years, that activity also dropped.  Maybe he now has a lot of stuff happening outside the forum. You can never know.
legendary
Activity: 3500
Merit: 6320
Crypto Swap Exchange
People also can’t make money from sharing nudes here
Sure they can, but who's going to pay a bunch of ugly guys for nudes?

Hey now, I made a lot of money as a stripper. People would pay large amounts for me to put my clothes back on :-)

Anyway, just saw this thread pop up and have to say I took a look at the altcoin form and *IF* you are into alts I don't think it's a bad place to hang out.
I am not that into them although I do use and trade, but for me alts are just a tool to get something done.

However, there is the other side of it which is, how many people did not even KNOW about the other forum until the mixer ban and it being discussed. I KNEW about it but never went there. Now I have been there a few times to see if I could find some info that I could not find here. That is where I see the other forum gaining active members from those that now see it as a viable place since it is growing they may go there more and cause even more growth.

-Dave
legendary
Activity: 1372
Merit: 2017
Calls me dumb, thinks it goes April, June, May, July...

You could have just said you're focusing on shitposting under your alt accounts for signature money now that you can't launder your earnings.

Yes I call you dumb because every now and then I see you saying bullshit in the threads as in this case and when they are dismantled you either disappear without answering or you answer with an even bigger bullshit as in this case.

On the other hand this is not the place to discuss my supposed need for money laundering and my supposed alts.

OgNasty, of course, saying bullshit.
donator
Activity: 4760
Merit: 4323
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
No, actually now we have more proof of how dumb you are and the bullshit you say.

In 2023 suchmoon wrote

8 posts in April 2023
25 posts in June 2023
0 posts in May 2023
10 posts in July 2023

Calls me dumb, thinks it goes April, June, May, July...

You could have just said you're focusing on shitposting under your alt accounts for signature money now that you can't launder your earnings.
legendary
Activity: 1372
Merit: 2017
Well, suchmoon had...

74 posts in December
29 posts in January
10 posts in February
4 posts in March

...so I would say that the mixer ban has had a positive effect on reducing activity among shitposters who only participate here for money.  In the case of suchmoon, we're talking nearly a 95% reduction in 90 days after the ban!  That's an absolutely amazing development.  I hope we see this continue and spread to other shitposters as well who provide nothing for this forum but drama while leeching funds from the community that could go towards supporting creators of goods and services.  

If you needed evidence that the mixer ban has already improved the community.  Here it is.

No, actually now we have more proof of how dumb you are and the bullshit you say.

In 2023 suchmoon wrote

8 posts in April 2023
25 posts in June 2023
0 posts in May 2023
10 posts in July 2023
donator
Activity: 4760
Merit: 4323
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
Well, suchmoon had...

74 posts in December
29 posts in January
10 posts in February
4 posts in March

...so I would say that the mixer ban has had a positive effect on reducing activity among shitposters who only participate here for money.  In the case of suchmoon, we're talking nearly a 95% reduction in 90 days after the ban!  That's an absolutely amazing development.  I hope we see this continue and spread to other shitposters as well who provide nothing for this forum but drama while leeching funds from the community that could go towards supporting creators of goods and services.  

If you needed evidence that the mixer ban has already improved the community.  Here it is.
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1159
lucky that i discovered bitcoin early and made my early retirement funds by just using my own investments. i never needed to become a sell-out

i see some people play to the narratives of those that fed them (misinformation, snake oil promotions, lies, scams, schemes or funding) and then they are stuck later on continuing to play the roll because it has become their identity they have to now live inside..  even when the rolls of money stop coming towards them

there are some where they do change their narrative when a new business category becomes advertised in their avatar and footnotes. but thats then just the comedy of showing how much of a empty shill/shell they became when they shift priorities based on funding

i seen some recent.. previously of the privacy persuasion when advertising mixers.. now on the get rich get famous gambling persuasion..
pure comedy
I like your thoughts franky but its a bit ironic that you accept in the outset about having made bank through bitcoin to begin with.

Most people doing the advertising or looking to do it hardly care about gambling or mixer privacy or any of the shitcoins that used to get advertised in 2017-20 when altcoins first started being a thing. Everyone does it for the extra cash and more importantly, the easy bitcoin DCA.

It is indeed a luxury in today's precipitous world to know that your future is secure because of good decisions or fortunate co-incidences of the past. At the end of the day, everyone is looking for the "fuck you" stack, or in your case, "frank you" stack. Let them be.

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