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legendary
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lucky that i discovered bitcoin early and made my early retirement funds by just using my own investments. i never needed to become a sell-out

i see some people play to the narratives of those that fed them (misinformation, snake oil promotions, lies, scams, schemes or funding) and then they are stuck later on continuing to play the roll because it has become their identity they have to now live inside..  even when the rolls of money stop coming towards them

there are some where they do change their narrative when a new business category becomes advertised in their avatar and footnotes. but thats then just the comedy of showing how much of a empty shill/shell they became when they shift priorities based on funding

i seen some recent.. previously of the privacy persuasion when advertising mixers.. now on the get rich get famous gambling persuasion..
pure comedy
hero member
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the effect i have noticed is this:

when people had mixer avatars and footers.. alot of their posts were always aimed at privacy, where they would then mention a mixer..
now when i see the same people with betting avatars/footers. their conversations are now gambling related...
when people are using/paid by the merit cycle troll meme.. their posts become more trollish

seems money decides their mindset
Lol...Money controls the most minds, it's only a few minds that can resist that. This goes with the integrity of the person and the core values they stand and live for, which can never be changed or bought by money. I noticed so many fake behaviours on the forum, and what happened during the M!xer ban fully shows that people are not often what they claim they are, not even the most reputable ones. Some are still only privileged for now.

It's all about the money even when they pretend to be something else. The changes will continue to unveil more drama (hidden and obvious).
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the effect i have noticed is this:

when people had mixer avatars and footers.. alot of their posts were always aimed at privacy, where they would then mention a mixer..
now when i see the same people with betting avatars/footers. their conversations are now gambling related...
when people are using/paid by the merit cycle troll meme.. their posts become more trollish

seems money decides their mindset

exactly .  I won't do a gambling one .

I give this signature away to talk.img

I was sending him 0.001 a month from my mixers fees but I do not have that much spare btc so I gave him my signature for free.

I also kept an avatar that makes a general reference to privacy.


I make funds on altcoinstalks 5x slower than I did here. so i need around 25-30 months of posting their to cover my funds lost.

and I do not hold theymos wrong to do what he did.

I would not go to jail to run mixer campaigns.

I would not kill off bitcointalk for the sake of keeping mixers.

If you don’t enjoy gambling that makes sense. As far as your predicament goes though, you’d have your self-debt paid off in a few months rather than a couple years and wouldn’t have to post on a site you don’t care about.

Another option… Why not shill here for jambler? That’s basically the same as shilling for mixers under the guise of privacy and you can still do it here for money for some reason (which makes no sense).
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
the effect i have noticed is this:

when people had mixer avatars and footers.. alot of their posts were always aimed at privacy, where they would then mention a mixer..
now when i see the same people with betting avatars/footers. their conversations are now gambling related...
when people are using/paid by the merit cycle troll meme.. their posts become more trollish

seems money decides their mindset

exactly .  I won't do a gambling one .

I give this signature away to talk.img

I was sending him 0.001 a month from my mixers fees but I do not have that much spare btc so I gave him my signature for free.

I also kept an avatar that makes a general reference to privacy.


I make funds on altcoinstalks 5x slower than I did here. so i need around 25-30 months of posting their to cover my funds lost.

and I do not hold theymos wrong to do what he did.

I would not go to jail to run mixer campaigns.

I would not kill off bitcointalk for the sake of keeping mixers.
hero member
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I have 102 back of the 4000 usd plus that I lost due to the mixer ban.

Well, just as most of us wanted that those campaigns were not banned but the forum admins have to save the forum first. Just as we say that we have lost that much because of the ban, theymos also wouldn't want to continue and risk the forum. Everyone cares for themselves first and it sometimes turn out to be overall good for the community.

when people had mixer avatars and footers.. alot of their posts were always aimed at privacy, where they would then mention a mixer..
now when i see the same people with betting avatars/footers. their conversations are now gambling related...
when people are using/paid by the merit cycle troll meme.. their posts become more trollish

Well, you may take it in a different way as when you are in a gambling campaign, it is required that you post mostly in the gambling section. Similarly, if you are in the mixer campaign, they would not want the majority of the posts to be in the gambling section. It can just be that when a person is marketing gambling, he will mostly tell his thoughts about the gambling and when the person is in the mixer campaign, his mostly conversion would be relevant to privacy and such stuff. (He can have knowledge of both gambling and privacy/mixers and it's just the execution depends upon what he is marketing)
legendary
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the effect i have noticed is this:

when people had mixer avatars and footers.. alot of their posts were always aimed at privacy, where they would then mention a mixer..
now when i see the same people with betting avatars/footers. their conversations are now gambling related...
when people are using/paid by the merit cycle troll meme.. their posts become more trollish

seems money decides their mindset
legendary
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Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
I am 1 payment into the 100 payments I need to make up for the refund I gave to an un named mixer due to the mixer ban..  Just 99 weeks to go.
Why not try a different signature campaign on the forum you actually like posting? There's more than just mixers to choose from.

Nah I am giving my signature to talkimg for free here.

And I just got my second payment on altcointalk.

I have 102 back of the 4000 usd plus that I lost due to the mixer ban.

Just another 98 weeks to go.

I like giving my signature away for free here to talkimg.  it is a good service for bitcointalk.

This never was about the money as I state clearly "we as humans have a right to privacy."
legendary
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I speak from memory but I would say that I once saw phillip say that he had problems with gambling in the past, probably that's why for him joining a gambling signature campaign is something that's not even on the table for him. And although there are other options, they are limited, although he should not have any problem to be hired. He is the human with the most posts in the forum (the first is ChartBuddy), which is attractive in terms of SEO, and the second most recognized.
He certainly has been active (or shall I say even overactive) in the forum on an extremely regular basis. Quite clearly the forum plays a very important role in his day to day life and at his age with retirement (and with that probably a lot of time on his hands) it is understandable.

If it brings in a regular income from a source that is acceptable to him and he can decide to not use other sources for personal reasons (such as gambling websites) then that is something he has to contend with but if he can square that off with a personal bespoke signature campaign and earn significantly more than what others enrolled in the signature campaign do, then good for him.

If he (or anyone else is) in that position, the post count and recognised status should be leveraged to negotiate a bespoke signature campaign deal but as you said with gambling website dominating the signature campaign space they will be ignored if they are off the table for him.

Unfortunately, I must confess that I am also an artificial intelligence.  
Being an AI must have advantages. Is that how you found a solution very fast when Hostinger blocked your mixers list website. You wasted zero time in relocating it  Grin
legendary
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By the way @NotATether, I checked your post history and you are crazy dude (in a good sense). You posted 26 posts on 8 February, while 18 posts were posted in one hour timeframe. How can you check threads, analyze posts and then write new posts in one hour? That's roughly 1 post every 3 minutes and you are not a spammer though, you are an alien (NotAHuman).

Well me recognizing that NotATether is a good forum member and a high quality poster in general I have complained to him a few times that he had not read before replying in some of my threads, and with what you say I am not surprised. If he writes 18 posts in an hour it's because he doesn't analyze much in some of the threads at least.

Unfortunately, I must confess that I am also an artificial intelligence. 
legendary
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Currently, gambling signature campaigns are dominant on the forum. As far as I know, philipma1957 is not particularly active in that section and the casinos are not open to generous rewards per user. With the departure of mixers, high-payment campaigns have also gone.

I speak from memory but I would say that I once saw phillip say that he had problems with gambling in the past, probably that's why for him joining a gambling signature campaign is something that's not even on the table for him. And although there are other options, they are limited, although he should not have any problem to be hired. He is the human with the most posts in the forum (the first is ChartBuddy), which is attractive in terms of SEO, and the second most recognized.

By the way @NotATether, I checked your post history and you are crazy dude (in a good sense). You posted 26 posts on 8 February, while 18 posts were posted in one hour timeframe. How can you check threads, analyze posts and then write new posts in one hour? That's roughly 1 post every 3 minutes and you are not a spammer though, you are an alien (NotAHuman).

Well me recognizing that NotATether is a good forum member and a high quality poster in general I have complained to him a few times that he had not read before replying in some of my threads, and with what you say I am not surprised. If he writes 18 posts in an hour it's because he doesn't analyze much in some of the threads at least.
legendary
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I am kinda curious sometimes when I see people from rich countries posting here a lot, are most of you retired? If not, how do you manage to post and work at the same time?
Every forum has its so called "power users" are capable of dishing out those kind of numbers and for them being active on forum is sort of a hobby. I never wrote so many posts in a week, but I remember periods when I was spending unhealthy amount of time here (like 7-8 hours per day) despite having a full time job, wife etc. Those were my early days when I was having a lot of fun going through the old posts from forum OGs and reading interesting discussions.


legendary
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I think we all understand that coming from a particular country does not indicate citizens will be wealthy by default. If memory serves correct, he does live in the US and he is a miner that has various mining machines (but I hope I will be corrected if I am wrong).  I believe he is indeed retired and that is part of the reason he is making a prolific number of posts per day/week.

I suppose if forum members have spare time at work and are allowed to use the internet, they will post here and it will increase their post count. Having retirement makes it altogether a different scenario whether it is for here or Reddit.

100 posts per week? Dude lives in the USA, how does he manage to do that? I am kinda curious sometimes when I see people from rich countries posting here a lot, are most of you retired? If not, how do you manage to post and work at the same time? I personally work in a good company where I am not occupied 100% of the time and I manage to visit this forum and post sometimes, it's kinda entertaining and I get some new information while interacting with people. I prefer it over Reddit.
legendary
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I am 1 payment into the 100 payments I need to make up for the refund I gave to an un named mixer due to the mixer ban..  Just 99 weeks to go.
Why not try a different signature campaign on the forum you actually like posting? There's more than just mixers to choose from.

With the status of his account here and the amount he posts I'm sure he could broker a deal for his signature with one of the existing campaigns for $200 or even $300 per week.

That's what happens when you're making upwards of 100 posts per week.

Currently, gambling signature campaigns are dominant on the forum. As far as I know, philipma1957 is not particularly active in that section and the casinos are not open to generous rewards per user. With the departure of mixers, high-payment campaigns have also gone.

I would agree with Loyce here, there are other campaigns through which he can compensate for the "loss", probably a better choice than waiting for some "super-rich" offer.
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I am 1 payment into the 100 payments I need to make up for the refund I gave to an un named mixer due to the mixer ban..  Just 99 weeks to go.
Why not try a different signature campaign on the forum you actually like posting? There's more than just mixers to choose from.

With the status of his account here and the amount he posts I'm sure he could broker a deal for his signature with one of the existing campaigns for $200 or even $300 per week.

That's what happens when you're making upwards of 100 posts per week.
100 posts per week? Dude lives in the USA, how does he manage to do that? I am kinda curious sometimes when I see people from rich countries posting here a lot, are most of you retired? If not, how do you manage to post and work at the same time? I personally work in a good company where I am not occupied 100% of the time and I manage to visit this forum and post sometimes, it's kinda entertaining and I get some new information while interacting with people. I prefer it over Reddit.

He is an old timer/retired like you guessed.  Not everybody who makes a hundred post a week is like him. Most people who send that many posts are spammers/acc farmers.

I am also occupied during the day and my max post count/day is around 4-5. I can go as high as 10-15 if there is a hot discussion that takes my attention.
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I am 1 payment into the 100 payments I need to make up for the refund I gave to an un named mixer due to the mixer ban..  Just 99 weeks to go.
Why not try a different signature campaign on the forum you actually like posting? There's more than just mixers to choose from.

With the status of his account here and the amount he posts I'm sure he could broker a deal for his signature with one of the existing campaigns for $200 or even $300 per week.

That's what happens when you're making upwards of 100 posts per week.
100 posts per week? Dude lives in the USA, how does he manage to do that? I am kinda curious sometimes when I see people from rich countries posting here a lot, are most of you retired? If not, how do you manage to post and work at the same time? I personally work in a good company where I am not occupied 100% of the time and I manage to visit this forum and post sometimes, it's kinda entertaining and I get some new information while interacting with people. I prefer it over Reddit.

By the way @NotATether, I checked your post history and you are crazy dude (in a good sense). You posted 26 posts on 8 February, while 18 posts were posted in one hour timeframe. How can you check threads, analyze posts and then write new posts in one hour? That's roughly 1 post every 3 minutes and you are not a spammer though, you are an alien (NotAHuman).
legendary
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Those exchanges are run by people (and organisations) that effectively have their own interests at heart therefore they re driven by what they see as beneficial to them and not to their customers. The US market is massive and Binance want to be part of it therefore to achieve regulated/official standard to be allowed to trade there without fear of fines and arrest, they would be happy to adhere to any requests or instructions from regulators.

I am unsure what the future holds for Monero and how it will navigate difficult times when more exchanges de-list it but as an example, the mixer ban in the forum probably had zero effect on mixers both in website visitor numbers and also the business turnover. The impact will be seen several months after Monero is de-listed.

As off-topic as it is, it is disappointing to read about the de-listing of any crypto that was being used by the community because of an actual function it provided (such as privacy) compared to many others that do not provide anything other than hype. Binance are doing what they are because of their owners wanting to remain on the right side of regulating bodies but the trade-off will affect many people. 
They're a CEX after all, of course Binance will want to stay in business, I don't think they're of interest if they keep on delaying or avoiding the regulations that's being imposed on them by the government, too bad that they do delisting of these privacy coins especially Monero but I do salute their stance about privacy and that they're never compromising, love that idea that there's still people in this world that will stand on principle and not worship money.
legendary
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I am 1 payment into the 100 payments I need to make up for the refund I gave to an un named mixer due to the mixer ban..  Just 99 weeks to go.
Why not try a different signature campaign on the forum you actually like posting? There's more than just mixers to choose from.

With the status of his account here and the amount he posts I'm sure he could broker a deal for his signature with one of the existing campaigns for $200 or even $300 per week.

That's what happens when you're making upwards of 100 posts per week.
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As off-topic as it is, it is disappointing to read about the de-listing of any crypto that was being used by the community because of an actual function it provided (such as privacy) compared to many others that do not provide anything other than hype. Binance are doing what they are because of their owners wanting to remain on the right side of regulating bodies but the trade-off will affect many people. 
They're a CEX after all, of course Binance will want to stay in business, I don't think they're of interest if they keep on delaying or avoiding the regulations that's being imposed on them by the government, too bad that they do delisting of these privacy coins especially Monero but I do salute their stance about privacy and that they're never compromising, love that idea that there's still people in this world that will stand on principle and not worship money.
legendary
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As off-topic as it is, it is disappointing to read about the de-listing of any crypto that was being used by the community because of an actual function it provided (such as privacy) compared to many others that do not provide anything other than hype. Binance are doing what they are because of their owners wanting to remain on the right side of regulating bodies but the trade-off will affect many people. 


This is off-topic but yeah that is definitely nuts. Its a major blow to the spirit of cryptocurrency in general. I understand they want to be in line with whoever's regulations, but still... Sad that this is what its come to. At least they are still available on Kraken and KuCoin. Bitfinex as well apparently. Down 24% now... seems like an overreaction.
legendary
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Down 24% now... seems like an overreaction.

No overreaction.

Check my link. They disabled xmr withdrawals. Binance is doing a major theft right now.

No I mean in terms of the negative price action. Could be a buying opportunity. I read your thread and don't understand the specifics but I will research them.

What good is it to buy xmr on binance if you can’t withdraw the coins?

Anyway, I just edited my OP on that thread, binance said the withdrawals will return…
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