Topic: The effect the mixer ban has had on the forum. - page 10. (Read 4424 times)

I've been there since 2021 (before mixers) ; perhaps I was one of the few that went to improve the forum rather than because mixer went there. 

Well, that has to be the only reason why forum members decided to teleport (and/or register other) accounts there. They knew they could get paid by posting in the other forum and knew mixers would be paying the highest rates therefore they followed where another revenue stream went. I have not read any reason from members stating they went there (or want to go there) in order to improve the other forum with their contributions.

If a lack of "your highness" can destroy a reputation in that forum, just imagine what would happen to a reputation if you got on the wrong side of a group/gang/clique

Some website owners have Google Analytics code on their website that counts traffic and many other useful data. Then these website owners connect their Google Analytics to similarweb.com and data acquired via this way is accurate but I highly doubt altcoinstalks or bitcointalk does that. So, when website owners don't connect their GA to similarweb, then the only way for similarweb to collect data is through 3rd parties that share and sell data to them and this can't be accurate, they aren't the result of analytics. So, it's just a brief estimation. If you sign in and out of the website for 10 times an hour a day, it won't count on similarweb if website's GA is not connected to them.

There are some like semrush, ahrefs and so on but all traffic estimation tools only give you a broad guesses unless the website has google analytics script put on page and connect it to similarweb or any other traffic estimator.

What the fuck?

Here on Bitcointalk, and with all due respect to Poker Player, I can disagree with him about something and not have to worry about getting red trust over it. But over there people can tag you because they are offended that you didn't call them "your highness"? What a joke.

Any "admin" can make up anything they want.

One must have access to your BTT profile to be able to teleport it. That's how it works 

Fair.

Allow me to announce right now that if you ever see my account "teleported", it's not me. I can't help what an untrusted third party website does, but rest assured I have nothing to do with it.

I have known about the pay rates there beforehand, if that's what you're curious to know. Otherwise, no offense, but it is none of your business.

It does have a rationale, I'm just struggling to imagine legitimate users moving into there. The list of red flags is endless. Bitcointalk is not restrictive, it just recently became a little more strict with advertising potentially darknet originating services. It's pretty much the opposite; free speech to the extreme.

To put it in this way: is there any reason to migrate to altcoinstalks other than to advertise mixers? To me, the answer is no.

Well, I've explained it several times in the thread, but don't worry I'll repeat it. If you look at the title of the thread, this is about the effect that the mixer ban has had, and it has been, that many forumers have gone to altcoinstalk, for the moment being active in both forums. That to me is a pretty clear sign that if more restrictions were introduced, traffic would go elsewhere. When many of you argue that this forum has more quality or less spam than the other, I agree, but I don't look at whether there is more quality or less spam here now, I look at what has happened in less than a month and what could happen in the future.


Very good, lol. I had visited that forum but did not know what you are explaining. Sounds like desperation for money. That, along with worthless token and the ponzi look looks bad.


Lol. 

Now, explain why you teleported your account in the first place. I know 2-3 individuals who went for the mixers campaign, only to discover that the money was less than what a Senior receives here and began writing unfavourable reviews about the forum.

BTT also offer Evil IP fees and custom rank subscriptions, which are all optional rather than necessary, just like the ATL additional account packages. On the ALT forum, payment or subscription is not required; everything is completely free, just like here.

At this point, I wouldn't pay even 1 ETH for the entire altcoinstalks. Let alone, ten times that for "special treatment", lol.

For 10+ eth, that special treatment better include a daily blowjob.

Even though it has a lot of spam, it still seems to be in better standing than the Cryptotalk from by the Yobit team because that is almost completely full of spam.

I had a look at that donation page and ended up with a headache. There are far too many options: Patron, Royalty, Donor, VIP and Immortals. The lowest amount to donate is 0.05 ETH but as you scroll down the page a new donor rank (Monarch) appears.

Seriously, who would pay to receive special treatment:

"Special Treatment:

All above ranks get special treatment, here's some examples of perks:
- Get some of the tokens we collect from the different ICOs & Airdrops
- Get Speedy distribution of tokens
- Get access to some reserved sections of the forum
- Get 3 to 10 token distribution transaction fees covered by us."

It is still possible for members from here to register there to earn from signature campaigns without donating (just as most of us are doing when we use this forum) but keeping that aside, who is behind that forum? Rather than operate their alternative forum for crypto discussions to benefit the community they seem to be using it as a front to get as much money as possible via so-called donations.

I fail to see a difference. My point stands.

You may have misunderstood something. Although I saw that there are some definitions of ranks that have been changed, the posts about it have not been updated (the admin promised to finalize and define the conditions related to the ranking soon)

This is the most recent:

https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=315406.0

Monarch rank is a ponzi/scam scheme. The price goes only up. You can’t sell your position and they offer you profits for your position.

I remember someone long ago came up with an idea for a crypto currency. You couldn’t sell your coins for a lower price than the market price. This forum rank reminds of that scheme.

You stated this well, there are a lot of illogical and meaningless rules. Most of the common features can be purchased, which creates unnecessary clutter and ambiguity. However, I would not say that it is any kind of pyramid scheme, there is no one offers profit by asking for investment. At least not by the forum administration.

As far as I know, Alttalk was created as a response to Bitcointalk, when the marginalization of bounty programs, altcoins and all the other crap that comes with it started here. That's why it is primarily focused on those sections, while the discussion about Bitcoin is left to Bitcointalk, and there, more as curiosity, space is left for talks about Bitcoin. It is obvious (both here and there) that altcoins, shittokens and all the crap that comes with them, do not attract that much interest, hence the marginalization of that forum. It's the same thing with the altcoin discussion boards on this forum.

The forum has its token, which is the centre of the payment you mention. As far as I understand, members are rewarded for their activity with these tokens, which can then be exchanged for money or additional items on the forum. The construction may not be bad, but it is ridiculous for us who are used to all that (and even more) for free.

Now they faced serious things for the first time, with the arrival of several mixer signature campaigns that brought real money (probably the most money in the history of the forum) and in their way attracted people who would not just write rubbish.
The administration is overwhelmed with objections, complaints, and suggestions on the very functionality of the forum (Mainly by teleported users). We will see how he will handle the "crisis" situation. If nothing else, it is obvious that there is a will to improve.

There are? The only threads I can see in so-called "Bitcoin Forum" board are either duplicates of bitcointalk or simply uninteresting.

Quite frankly, and that might sound harsh, but I don't want a democratic Internet board. I have enough of a democracy everywhere else. I prefer participating in a forum where an administrator promotes as much free speech as possible rather than depending on arbitrary rules favored by a get-rich-quick scheme.

What photo? What process?

That sums it up perfectly. Thanks for confirming that my account deletion request was a good choice.

Let me say I agree with you about the spam of a thing, once it is a public forum and media where anyone can just open an account and have access to it without prior screening to ascertain their adequacy and inefficiency, no one can prevent the spamming and other things that come with it. The place can only be moderated as we are seeing here and other places.

But for the democratic remarks, unless your words are not coherent with the word, I do not think you are right. Being slow to take action but allowing the forum users to make the decision in most cases looks more democratic to me. Since the alternative forum still wants more traffic, I am sure that they will be more open to advice and suggestions and be fast to implement it, but that is not what we use "democratic" for. They just want your idea (for now), a desperate way to move the forum forward and be like the competitor. But that doesn't mean they are more democratic, and with time when they are strong enough, you will see changes. I think Bitcointalk has never faked it, it has given the users a high level of freedom which can't be shortchanged for anything.

Well done... This was some excellent research. Kudos.

My opinion of that forum... well, it didn't go up after reading this.