🏆 The Emirates FA Cup - Season 2021/2022 - page 51.

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Quote from: snipie on January 08, 2023, 10:36:43 AM

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Another surprise today in the fa cup. Sheffield Wednesday was able to win against Newcastle 2:1 and one of the top teams in the premier league is knocked out. Some incredible saves from Sheffield wednesday goalkeeper and they are third league tier and have just advance into next phase

The Newcastle coach took some decisions that he regretted about it but he didn't have many choices since the team will face Leicester in EFL Cup in Tuesday then Fulham in EPL Sunday. Such tight schedule made them less comfortable with letting the same players getting exhausted.
Liverpool also getting a draw vs Wolves is problematic especially for Klopp since playing a replay means additional game and less time for rest for his players.

When teams have tight schedules like this it is only normal to see coaches rotate their squad to manage available players to spread across all the games to maintain fitness and reduce risk of injuries from been over played. Such tight schedules requires some players to be rested for more important games. Klopp will be very disappointed with his team's result against Wolves and will have to prepare for a second leg match. Sometimes it is better to take the risk and get the results and move on.

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So, Aston Villa got knocked in the 3rd round yet again. I read somewhere it's their 4th or 5th year in a row.
They started with a strong lineup and losing at home to a League 2 team isn't something they should have allowed.

Everything fell apart after Dendoncker's red card, but they conceded 2 goals in 3 minutes. Emery has every right to be mad at his players.

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Quote from: swogerino on January 09, 2023, 02:13:55 AM

I am curious to see the leaders of the Premier League how will they behave in their game against Oxford United which I think is a couple of leagues below.I believe that Arsenal has the full capacity to win this game easily even with their 2nd starting eleven,not the official formation.Surprises have happened here and I don't also exclude them from this game but I think it will be highly unlikely that Arsenal to screw up like Aston Villa did yesterday night.

I expect of course not a clean sheet for Arsenal if they play with their 2nd formation as they will be playing openly and maybe they will concede a goal,so both teams to score at a great odd is a good option.

Even though Arsenal have a much tighter match schedule compared to Oxford United, I don't think this match is too difficult for Arsenal to win. Oxford United is not a strong team to withstand Arsenal's positive trend, because in League 1 Oxford United is not the seeded team or the leader of the standings and is currently ranked 15th, not to mention the quality of the two teams which are very much different

Arteta will try to rotate several players in my opinion, considering the schedule in the Premier League is too tight and will face Tottenham. Even though they didn't appear with the main strength, I believe Arsenal can beat Oxford United.

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Chelsea looks like a garbage team in the last match against manchester city. Chelsea was losing 1 goals in EPL but it was losing 4 goals in FA which has proven chelsea under potter has become even worst. If dumbest owner like todd keep used potter as a coach for chelsea and it's the same like he was destroying his own team.
The dumb owner that i have ever seen in my life. Potter was not suitable for chelsea. Manchester city has been even proving it by defeating chelsea 4-0.
Two matches and two loses. Chelsea just like mediocre team right now

even though chelsea is in a very downturn at the moment (keep losing when facing man city), the current chelsea owner is sure of potter and he once said potter was their long term plan. in another match, there will be a match between arsenal vs oxford utd and it is certain that arsenal will win easily, hopefully there will be no surprises.

I think it's also pointless to fire Potter and look for a new coach of course it will take more time to adjust the players to the new coach at Chelsea, maybe at least adding new players is a good way to strengthen the team to be better than changing coaches new, chelsea is a big club of course this should be their introspection to improve the situation at their club

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Quote from: makishart on January 09, 2023, 01:25:00 AM

Chelsea looks like a garbage team in the last match against manchester city. Chelsea was losing 1 goals in EPL but it was losing 4 goals in FA which has proven chelsea under potter has become even worst. If dumbest owner like todd keep used potter as a coach for chelsea and it's the same like he was destroying his own team.
The dumb owner that i have ever seen in my life. Potter was not suitable for chelsea. Manchester city has been even proving it by defeating chelsea 4-0.
Two matches and two loses. Chelsea just like mediocre team right now

even though chelsea is in a very downturn at the moment (keep losing when facing man city), the current chelsea owner is sure of potter and he once said potter was their long term plan. in another match, there will be a match between arsenal vs oxford utd and it is certain that arsenal will win easily, hopefully there will be no surprises.

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I am curious to see the leaders of the Premier League how will they behave in their game against Oxford United which I think is a couple of leagues below.I believe that Arsenal has the full capacity to win this game easily even with their 2nd starting eleven,not the official formation.Surprises have happened here and I don't also exclude them from this game but I think it will be highly unlikely that Arsenal to screw up like Aston Villa did yesterday night.

I expect of course not a clean sheet for Arsenal if they play with their 2nd formation as they will be playing openly and maybe they will concede a goal,so both teams to score at a great odd is a good option.

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Quote from: yudi09 on January 08, 2023, 11:29:46 PM

I don't want to get too far into the discussion of the change in the club's shareholding from Abramovich to Todd Boehly. But too quickly sacking Thomas Tuchel in my opinion was the Chelsea club owner's initial mistake because Tuchel when compared to Potter was still too good for the German passport coach.

It is understandable Chelsea's performance against Manchester City because it is only an FA CUP status, but what if these conditions occur in the biggest competition such as the UEFA Champion League later against Borussia Dortmund?

Tuchel is far better than Potter, just look on their both achievement of their past clubs they've coached.

Potter coached:
Ostersunds FK since 2011-2018, carry this club from Superretan to Allsvenkan (success)
Swansea City 2018-2019, downgrade this club from Premier League to League One (failed)
Brighton 2019-2021, make this club in stable position 15-17 (neutral)

Tuchel coached:
Borrusia Dortmund 2015-2017, upgrade this club from 7th position to 3rd and 2nd position (success)
Paris Saint German, upgrade this club from 2rd position to 1st position for 3 years (success)

Don't give any excuse like it's just a FA cup, it's just a Premier League etc etc, the thing is Chelsea use their main line up while Manchester City didn't even let Haaland play. We need to judge based on the players, not from the league.

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Quote from: Patrol69 on January 08, 2023, 09:24:25 PM

Manchester City's 4-0 win over Chelsea was truly remarkable. From the beginning, Manchester City was playing a very aggressive game against Sales. Manchester City took the lead by scoring a goal in just 23 minutes. R. Mahrez (23') gives Manchester City a 1-0 lead with a superb free-kick. Later, Manchester City players scored consecutively. But the most surprising thing in this match is that two of the four goals in this match were from penalty shots. J. Álvarez 30' (P) P. Foden 38' R. Mahrez ' 85' (P) The Manchester City players left the field with consecutive goals to ensure their victory 4-0. The goal I enjoyed the most in this match was R. Mahrez's free kick, that goal was really great.

Chelsea looks like a garbage team in the last match against manchester city. Chelsea was losing 1 goals in EPL but it was losing 4 goals in FA which has proven chelsea under potter has become even worst. If dumbest owner like todd keep used potter as a coach for chelsea and it's the same like he was destroying his own team.
The dumb owner that i have ever seen in my life. Potter was not suitable for chelsea. Manchester city has been even proving it by defeating chelsea 4-0.
Two matches and two loses. Chelsea just like mediocre team right now

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Quote from: bitzizzix on January 08, 2023, 10:00:52 PM

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Chelsea will be having sleepless nights anytime they get matched with Manchester City from now on because Manchester City showed their class against Chelsea today, what a humiliating defeat for the blues, I must say that I was expecting much better performance from Chelsea but that was not the case and if Potter continues with these kind of results he might get sacked sooner than later.

4-0 is a bad score for Chelsea even though it is only an FA CUP class. Chelsea's poor results in this defeat remind me of the management's quick decision to sack Thomas Tuchel and hand over the coaching duties to Graham Potter. I think Potter is still stiff in handling a club as big as Chelsea. GP's strategy did not go smoothly with Chelsea even though when he became Brighton coach it looked so successful.

The total shots taken by the Blues throughout the game were almost nonexistent. Only 1 on target and 1 off target.
Against Manchester City, Graham Potter played almost all the main players, only the left-back and center-back were played by inexperienced players, namely Lewis Hall (RB) and Bashir Humphreys (CB).

What's wrong with Potter?

It's an embarrassing defeat for Chelsea's class, their form in all competitions this season has been terrible and Graham Potter can't make Chlesea better after Thomas Tuchel, who I think is too early to be sacked by Chelsea.
and when Chelsea met Manchester City they really couldn't beat and even scored goals for Manchester City since the 2020/21 Champions League final and Abramovich's departure changed everything plus the departure of Thomas Tuchel Chelsea got even worse.

I don't want to get too far into the discussion of the change in the club's shareholding from Abramovich to Todd Boehly. But too quickly sacking Thomas Tuchel in my opinion was the Chelsea club owner's initial mistake because Tuchel when compared to Potter was still too good for the German passport coach.

It is understandable Chelsea's performance against Manchester City because it is only an FA CUP status, but what if these conditions occur in the biggest competition such as the UEFA Champion League later against Borussia Dortmund?

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Quote from: SatoPrincess on January 08, 2023, 05:14:43 PM

Chelsea will be having sleepless nights anytime they get matched with Manchester City from now on because Manchester City showed their class against Chelsea today, what a humiliating defeat for the blues, I must say that I was expecting much better performance from Chelsea but that was not the case and if Potter continues with these kind of results he might get sacked sooner than later.

Only a few minutes at the start of the match Chelsea could put emphasis on Man City, but a free kick from Riyad Mahrez which managed to become a goal broke Chelsea's concentration and an error in the penalty box by a Chelsea player so that the referee awarded a penalty further exacerbated the situation, pressing at the start of the match what they did ended up being a depressing act, it's just that this 4-0 defeat was an absolute embarrassment, Chelsea didn't show that they are a team with good enough quality players and Potter will be the target of this defeat, and the sackers as you said are very likely to be done.

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Quote from: yudi09 on January 08, 2023, 08:26:34 PM

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Chelsea will be having sleepless nights anytime they get matched with Manchester City from now on because Manchester City showed their class against Chelsea today, what a humiliating defeat for the blues, I must say that I was expecting much better performance from Chelsea but that was not the case and if Potter continues with these kind of results he might get sacked sooner than later.

4-0 is a bad score for Chelsea even though it is only an FA CUP class. Chelsea's poor results in this defeat remind me of the management's quick decision to sack Thomas Tuchel and hand over the coaching duties to Graham Potter. I think Potter is still stiff in handling a club as big as Chelsea. GP's strategy did not go smoothly with Chelsea even though when he became Brighton coach it looked so successful.

The total shots taken by the Blues throughout the game were almost nonexistent. Only 1 on target and 1 off target.
Against Manchester City, Graham Potter played almost all the main players, only the left-back and center-back were played by inexperienced players, namely Lewis Hall (RB) and Bashir Humphreys (CB).

What's wrong with Potter?

It's an embarrassing defeat for Chelsea's class, their form in all competitions this season has been terrible and Graham Potter can't make Chlesea better after Thomas Tuchel, who I think is too early to be sacked by Chelsea.
and when Chelsea met Manchester City they really couldn't beat and even scored goals for Manchester City since the 2020/21 Champions League final and Abramovich's departure changed everything plus the departure of Thomas Tuchel Chelsea got even worse.

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Manchester City's 4-0 win over Chelsea was truly remarkable. From the beginning, Manchester City was playing a very aggressive game against Sales. Manchester City took the lead by scoring a goal in just 23 minutes. R. Mahrez (23') gives Manchester City a 1-0 lead with a superb free-kick. Later, Manchester City players scored consecutively. But the most surprising thing in this match is that two of the four goals in this match were from penalty shots. J. Álvarez 30' (P) P. Foden 38' R. Mahrez ' 85' (P) The Manchester City players left the field with consecutive goals to ensure their victory 4-0. The goal I enjoyed the most in this match was R. Mahrez's free kick, that goal was really great.

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Quote from: SatoPrincess on January 08, 2023, 05:14:43 PM

Chelsea will be having sleepless nights anytime they get matched with Manchester City from now on because Manchester City showed their class against Chelsea today, what a humiliating defeat for the blues, I must say that I was expecting much better performance from Chelsea but that was not the case and if Potter continues with these kind of results he might get sacked sooner than later.

4-0 is a bad score for Chelsea even though it is only an FA CUP class. Chelsea's poor results in this defeat remind me of the management's quick decision to sack Thomas Tuchel and hand over the coaching duties to Graham Potter. I think Potter is still stiff in handling a club as big as Chelsea. GP's strategy did not go smoothly with Chelsea even though when he became Brighton coach it looked so successful.

The total shots taken by the Blues throughout the game were almost nonexistent. Only 1 on target and 1 off target.
Against Manchester City, Graham Potter played almost all the main players, only the left-back and center-back were played by inexperienced players, namely Lewis Hall (RB) and Bashir Humphreys (CB).

What's wrong with Potter?

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Since Chelsea can't get any better result for them selves I think is better for them to go back and do there home work on there next game, if they had won it would have been Chelsea against Oxford or Arsenal. The Oxford UTD are not really match for the gunners after having a draw against Newcastle it will be a change of plan for Mikel Arteta's Arsenal team to trash this Oxford side, the Gunners are pretty much confidence in going head to head against the League one side talking about the Oxford UTD. To me, is going to be a much more like a shooting practice for the gunners, a big win to Arsenal and a bucket loads of goals.

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Quote from: SatoPrincess on January 08, 2023, 05:14:43 PM

Chelsea will be having sleepless nights anytime they get matched with Manchester City from now on because Manchester City showed their class against Chelsea today, what a humiliating defeat for the blues, I must say that I was expecting much better performance from Chelsea but that was not the case and if Potter continues with these kind of results he might get sacked sooner than later.

potter can't do anything to make chelsea better maybe it takes time for him to make chelsea a great team, but with the many defeats and bad results lately it's clear that it will make potter fired faster especially soon the UCL match will start against dortmund of course it will be hard work, the 4 - 0 defeat with manchester city should be a lesson for chelsea to be better

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Chelsea will be having sleepless nights anytime they get matched with Manchester City from now on because Manchester City showed their class against Chelsea today, what a humiliating defeat for the blues, I must say that I was expecting much better performance from Chelsea but that was not the case and if Potter continues with these kind of results he might get sacked sooner than later.

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FA Cup Fourth Round Draw:

Sheff Wed vs Fleetwood
Man City/Chelsea vs Oxford/Arsenal
Bristol City/Swansea vs Chesterfield/West Brom
Fulham vs Sunderland
Boreham Wood/Accrington vs Cardiff/Leeds
Brighton vs Liverpool/Wolves
Derby vs West Ham
Preston vs Tottenham
Southampton vs Blackpool
Wrexham vs Sheff Utd
Ipswich vs Burnley
Man Utd vs Reading
Luton/Wigan vs Grimsby
Stoke vs Aston Villa/Stevenage
Blackburn vs Forest Green/Birmingham
Walsall vs Leicester

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Quote from: Docnaster on January 08, 2023, 02:12:43 AM

It's going to be an exciting match between the city and Chelsea FC. Yesterday reports have it that Benoit Badiashile and David Datro Fofana has officially resumed training with the blue squad at Cobham, and may probably join the team in clash against Manchester city in the English FA cup competition today. These two addition will make Chelsea squad a bit more rounded than it was, and as such Chelsea may completely return to its winning ways at the arrival of all the injury players. Now that the club has an additional central attacker, let's see what their subsequent matches will yield.

Really exciting Match today Grin

. Chelsea are currently in deep shit because the more they try to come out of this bad form the harder it gets. Manchester City really out did this Chelsea team, a 4 nil Victory for Manchester City even with the likes of hallaand and some keys players absence Manchester City still managed to wound Chelsea really bad.

Since the leaving of former Chelsea coach thomas tushell the team has lost all tenacity to play and win games. I think the team really has to do something really quick and this current coach is not blending at all so i think what this Chelsea team needs now is just a new coach with an experience of managing top team. If Chelsea continues with this current form i think they are going to finish the season in lower half of the premier league table. Grin

Manchester City just love winning Chelsea or what?
~They out of the fa cup
~out of position in the table. This team just needs a really big change.

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Today the biggest surprise was Aston Villa as they were beaten in the last 5 minutes of the game and up until then they were leading 1-0 against a team of League Two which is three leagues below the Premier League,it comes Championship,League One and then League Two.

Leeds had a draw but at least Leeds will play again and I am sure in the return leg they will win in their home team while Aston Villa took it to easy tonight and they got an humiliating defeat in their home field made a bad name for the Premier League sides.

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Quote from: snipie on January 08, 2023, 10:36:43 AM

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Another surprise today in the fa cup. Sheffield Wednesday was able to win against Newcastle 2:1 and one of the top teams in the premier league is knocked out. Some incredible saves from Sheffield wednesday goalkeeper and they are third league tier and have just advance into next phase

The Newcastle coach took some decisions that he regretted about it but he didn't have many choices since the team will face Leicester in EFL Cup in Tuesday then Fulham in EPL Sunday. Such tight schedule made them less comfortable with letting the same players getting exhausted.
Liverpool also getting a draw vs Wolves is problematic especially for Klopp since playing a replay means additional game and less time for rest for his players.

Though not really impressed but I'm glad leads later equalized against Cardiff. It was quite too early to be 2 goals down against a Championship side. I wasn't sure of leads equalizing the whole two goals, but I knew Leeds will at least have a goal because they are a scoring team. But I'm beginning to think that championship teams are doing much more better than the EPL teams in the FA Cup competition, and I think this is as a result of under estimations and overconfidence from the EPL teams. They will continue losing if those two factors is not taken care of.

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