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I don't really understand how good or bad it for bitcoin but i am sure that for many common bitcoin users halving is very good, cause it's money for free Grin

Well described, but from my understanding nothing can be said exactly that it surely gives free money for common users. Everyone expect rise but it moves based on the way its been developed.
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The biggest beneficiaries will be the developers behind all these shitty ICO's
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I don't really understand how good or bad it for bitcoin but i am sure that for many common bitcoin users halving is very good, cause it's money for free Grin

I think the halving has two side, first it is good.  Yes it is for Bitcoin whales to use it as tool to speculate price increase.  Good for those who bought their Bitcoin at low price.  But eventually after the halving, that  i think for the whale to at least dump their certain portion of Bitcoin resulting to decline in price which is bad for miner.  Imagine your mining reward to be 50% less and less price?  I bet that is double trouble for miner.  Might result to several miners shutting down their mining machine.

If some miners will shut down their machine, then difficulty in finding a block will now become lessen. That scenario for miners won't happen even the price won't increase much since they just give way to other miners. Since rewards will drop production will now be slow resulting for big whales to have only add a small percentage of hold coins compare to usual. In here the demand will now be presently active since less coins are now produced resulting for a price increase.
For me, my only concern is too the price increase and I know with the time bitcoins is in existence it will accordingly increase due to the demands with the new adopters coming it, the more we attract more users the more the demand will increase and if the will increase due to halving then well and good.

Well good idea. Just want to ask how can we assure that there will be a new adopters coming. Do you base it with the price we have? And if yes, how can you assure that the price is not a manipulation made by big traders.

Price will be always manipulated by big whales and there are many people who keep on saying that bitcoin will not survive in long run so that people get panic and they sell it lower price.
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I don't really understand how good or bad it for bitcoin but i am sure that for many common bitcoin users halving is very good, cause it's money for free Grin

I think the halving has two side, first it is good.  Yes it is for Bitcoin whales to use it as tool to speculate price increase.  Good for those who bought their Bitcoin at low price.  But eventually after the halving, that  i think for the whale to at least dump their certain portion of Bitcoin resulting to decline in price which is bad for miner.  Imagine your mining reward to be 50% less and less price?  I bet that is double trouble for miner.  Might result to several miners shutting down their mining machine.

If some miners will shut down their machine, then difficulty in finding a block will now become lessen. That scenario for miners won't happen even the price won't increase much since they just give way to other miners. Since rewards will drop production will now be slow resulting for big whales to have only add a small percentage of hold coins compare to usual. In here the demand will now be presently active since less coins are now produced resulting for a price increase.
For me, my only concern is too the price increase and I know with the time bitcoins is in existence it will accordingly increase due to the demands with the new adopters coming it, the more we attract more users the more the demand will increase and if the will increase due to halving then well and good.

That will just become an effective one if those new adoptors will purchase coins using their money and not by doing such bitcoin earning method that pays in bitcoin. They must take part in the circulation of coins in the market in order to give a quite boost in price even at small percentage.
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I don't really understand how good or bad it for bitcoin but i am sure that for many common bitcoin users halving is very good, cause it's money for free Grin

I think the halving has two side, first it is good.  Yes it is for Bitcoin whales to use it as tool to speculate price increase.  Good for those who bought their Bitcoin at low price.  But eventually after the halving, that  i think for the whale to at least dump their certain portion of Bitcoin resulting to decline in price which is bad for miner.  Imagine your mining reward to be 50% less and less price?  I bet that is double trouble for miner.  Might result to several miners shutting down their mining machine.

If some miners will shut down their machine, then difficulty in finding a block will now become lessen. That scenario for miners won't happen even the price won't increase much since they just give way to other miners. Since rewards will drop production will now be slow resulting for big whales to have only add a small percentage of hold coins compare to usual. In here the demand will now be presently active since less coins are now produced resulting for a price increase.
For me, my only concern is too the price increase and I know with the time bitcoins is in existence it will accordingly increase due to the demands with the new adopters coming it, the more we attract more users the more the demand will increase and if the will increase due to halving then well and good.

Well good idea. Just want to ask how can we assure that there will be a new adopters coming. Do you base it with the price we have? And if yes, how can you assure that the price is not a manipulation made by big traders.
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I don't really understand how good or bad it for bitcoin but i am sure that for many common bitcoin users halving is very good, cause it's money for free Grin
i doubt that it might be bad for bitcoin, bitcoin halving will surely be a good thing, i think the worst thing that might happen that people will dump the price a lot

there are many great things why halving is good, for example more people will be interested in it after halving, also the price might be pushed to the new heights
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To the point of the question, on whether or not it is bad for bitcoin: all of these considerations arise as a result of the halving, but that halving is very much necessary for bitcoin to halve any value. Its value only derives from its scarcity and the guarantee of that halving. Without it, it is nothing more than binary digits and wasted electricity. Putting pressure on miners, though, is perhaps a bad thing. The next best thing would be a disinflationary supply, with constant mining output (I think Ether has this principle?), or even a constant-inflationary supply (i.e. block reward expands to ensure constant expansion of maybe ∼3/4% p.a, Friedman-style?). It's all guesswork, but I think there is cause to be bullish, and I really don't think the network is going to break in 20 days' time.

Along with the halving miners could raise the fees in order to somewhat compensate (or overcompensate, lol) for the loss of profits due to halving and possible price collapse just before or right after the halving...

I'm curious who does actually set the fees?

Sorry for the delay; my response has obviously been under incubation for a while to allow full cogency Tongue

Market price can only be manipulated by those who hold substantial sums of coins; yes, miners do, but they will less so after halving. And they'll have to dispose of them eventually. Let's wait and see.

Fees are determined by us, who send transactions. It's a "fee market", and in fact, that is why the block size has to be limited (though 7tps is extremely mediocre, and off-chain solutions destroy the very essence of BTC, but this is a discussion for another thread). We set what fee we would like to pay to the miner and they include the highest fee paying Txs in their blocks. But, if the situation becomes that you have to include high fees to transact, people just will not transact and continue to hold their coins. Miners revenue declines; they power off. Businesses go bankrupt, sometimes. Yes, they do everything in their power to prevent it and even manipulate and break the rules, but sooner or later they evaporate.

For example, Lehman Brothers...
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If some miners will shut down their machine, then difficulty in finding a block will now become lessen. That scenario for miners won't happen even the price won't increase much since they just give way to other miners. Since rewards will drop production will now be slow resulting for big whales to have only add a small percentage of hold coins compare to usual. In here the demand will now be presently active since less coins are now produced resulting for a price increase.

Yes. Miner earn on the difference between income and the cost of electricity and other related network management equipment. Increased revenue from of mining bitcoin depends on the productivity of the equipment.
Miner, use less efficient equipment, they will be forced to leave the network, when the rewards will fall. Since they will have no meaning and profit. If mining equipment can operate only on electricity costs, it does not work "
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I don't really understand how good or bad it for bitcoin but i am sure that for many common bitcoin users halving is very good, cause it's money for free Grin

I think the halving has two side, first it is good.  Yes it is for Bitcoin whales to use it as tool to speculate price increase.  Good for those who bought their Bitcoin at low price.  But eventually after the halving, that  i think for the whale to at least dump their certain portion of Bitcoin resulting to decline in price which is bad for miner.  Imagine your mining reward to be 50% less and less price?  I bet that is double trouble for miner.  Might result to several miners shutting down their mining machine.

If some miners will shut down their machine, then difficulty in finding a block will now become lessen. That scenario for miners won't happen even the price won't increase much since they just give way to other miners. Since rewards will drop production will now be slow resulting for big whales to have only add a small percentage of hold coins compare to usual. In here the demand will now be presently active since less coins are now produced resulting for a price increase.
For me, my only concern is too the price increase and I know with the time bitcoins is in existence it will accordingly increase due to the demands with the new adopters coming it, the more we attract more users the more the demand will increase and if the will increase due to halving then well and good.
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I don't really understand how good or bad it for bitcoin but i am sure that for many common bitcoin users halving is very good, cause it's money for free Grin

I think the halving has two side, first it is good.  Yes it is for Bitcoin whales to use it as tool to speculate price increase.  Good for those who bought their Bitcoin at low price.  But eventually after the halving, that  i think for the whale to at least dump their certain portion of Bitcoin resulting to decline in price which is bad for miner.  Imagine your mining reward to be 50% less and less price?  I bet that is double trouble for miner.  Might result to several miners shutting down their mining machine.

If some miners will shut down their machine, then difficulty in finding a block will now become lessen. That scenario for miners won't happen even the price won't increase much since they just give way to other miners. Since rewards will drop production will now be slow resulting for big whales to have only add a small percentage of hold coins compare to usual. In here the demand will now be presently active since less coins are now produced resulting for a price increase.
sr. member
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I don't really understand how good or bad it for bitcoin but i am sure that for many common bitcoin users halving is very good, cause it's money for free Grin
well i doubt that it will be money for free because the price can either go up or down, anything might happen with the price so i wouldnt be that confident i think

i think bitcoin halving will definitely be a great thing for currency because the supply of the bitcoin is going to slow down increasing thus the value of it should increase theoretically
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I don't really understand how good or bad it for bitcoin but i am sure that for many common bitcoin users halving is very good, cause it's money for free Grin

I think the halving has two side, first it is good.  Yes it is for Bitcoin whales to use it as tool to speculate price increase.  Good for those who bought their Bitcoin at low price.  But eventually after the halving, that  i think for the whale to at least dump their certain portion of Bitcoin resulting to decline in price which is bad for miner.  Imagine your mining reward to be 50% less and less price?  I bet that is double trouble for miner.  Might result to several miners shutting down their mining machine.
sr. member
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I don't really understand how good or bad it for bitcoin but i am sure that for many common bitcoin users halving is very good, cause it's money for free Grin
legendary
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I'm going with yes on this one, due to the fact that people included this in BTC in order to maintain stability so, yeah!
With the halving that is happening next month the price should rise in order for the miners to have a profitable business, and because of this it will benefit us holders enjoying a profit on a short term investment.

the price has already gone up quite a bit compared to last year. remember the time that we were below the $300 for such a long period? if you take that into consideration, then the price has doubled within a year. people seem to forget that as they are only interested in seeing the price go up further and further. the growth that we have realized in the last months don't seem to interest them much...

I bought my coins at $220 last year and to be honest I am really satisfied with current price as price is at $650 so even if I sell now I can earn huge profits, but still would prefer to hold till halving.

it's always good to see solid holders get rewarded for their patience. depending on how many coins you have bought at $220, you can always choose to cash out a certain percentage of your coins, just to be on the safe side. i bought the majority of my coins below the $300 price level, and i secured some profits well above $700 very recently. the rest of my coins will be kept offline till the price goes up again.
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I'm going with yes on this one, due to the fact that people included this in BTC in order to maintain stability so, yeah!
With the halving that is happening next month the price should rise in order for the miners to have a profitable business, and because of this it will benefit us holders enjoying a profit on a short term investment.

the price has already gone up quite a bit compared to last year. remember the time that we were below the $300 for such a long period? if you take that into consideration, then the price has doubled within a year. people seem to forget that as they are only interested in seeing the price go up further and further. the growth that we have realized in the last months don't seem to interest them much...
That's right, the really made a big jump for a long period of time of it's stability. I think it's safe to sell your coins now, but if you have trust that bitcoin will still make it's price way higher then you should hold.
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I'm going with yes on this one, due to the fact that people included this in BTC in order to maintain stability so, yeah!
With the halving that is happening next month the price should rise in order for the miners to have a profitable business, and because of this it will benefit us holders enjoying a profit on a short term investment.

the price has already gone up quite a bit compared to last year. remember the time that we were below the $300 for such a long period? if you take that into consideration, then the price has doubled within a year. people seem to forget that as they are only interested in seeing the price go up further and further. the growth that we have realized in the last months don't seem to interest them much...

I bought my coins at $220 last year and to be honest I am really satisfied with current price as price is at $650 so even if I sell now I can earn huge profits, but still would prefer to hold till halving.
legendary
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I'm going with yes on this one, due to the fact that people included this in BTC in order to maintain stability so, yeah!
With the halving that is happening next month the price should rise in order for the miners to have a profitable business, and because of this it will benefit us holders enjoying a profit on a short term investment.

the price has already gone up quite a bit compared to last year. remember the time that we were below the $300 for such a long period? if you take that into consideration, then the price has doubled within a year. people seem to forget that as they are only interested in seeing the price go up further and further. the growth that we have realized in the last months don't seem to interest them much...
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in my understanding the reward for miners will soon be cut in half from 25 bitcoins to 12.5 bitcoins and because of rhat the bitcoin price should rise  make it still profitable for the miners.
and bitcoin price will surely rise in my opinion because people will buy a lot of bitcoins pretty soon as they think that the price will go up
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in my understanding the reward for miners will soon be cut in half from 25 bitcoins to 12.5 bitcoins and because of rhat the bitcoin price should rise  make it still profitable for the miners.

it should be but for small miners it will not
still this don't need to be that price will go up
well the price will definitely grow because of the halving and it will be profitable for miners so i think halving is a really good thing
There's no assurance that the coming event will make the price goes up since many people are thinking of selling before the halving come to be the first one to profit. We still cant assure too that the price pump is really a demand or just a manipulative price.
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As the title says, is the halving good or bad for the price of bitcoin?

The halving will decrease the supply of bitcoin, whole keeping the demand, so that would make bitcoin worth more.

But the halving will make mining profitibilty worse, meaning less miners, a higher trans. fee, and maybe causing a smaller demand.

What's your verdict?

I think bitcoin will still go up, as the fees might, let's say, double, but that's still a smaller transaction fee than through the banks...
Im looking forward to the halfing mainly because its going to bring something new and exciting to the bitcoin currency. whether it will be good or bad i dont yet know. but i hope it turns out to be good for bitcoin.if the price of bitcoin jumps up its going to bring a lot of popularity to bitcoin like the time it did when the price hit 1000
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