Topic: The impact of Russian and Ukrain war on world economy - page 37. (Read 13382 times)

Americans do worry about the Iranian drones and are trying to counter them in anyway possible. During the recent few weeks, a large number of Ukrainian military targets were hit with these drones and billions of USD worth of American and European weaponry went up in flames. And as per available information, Iran has transferred hundreds (if not thousands) of drones to Russia and the latter has vast majority of the stocks remaining. These drones (Shahed-136) have been a game changer, similar to the role played by HIMARs on the Ukrainian side.

Instead of worrying about who speaks what where you should worry about the bad advice the American military is giving your troops that is leading to their loss and destruction. 3 much needed aircraft were destroyed based on that bad advice trying to use million dollar planes to shoot down a $10k-$15k drone! At least one of them was confirmed to be hunted down by the very drone it was trying to shoot down!

Basically US is treating Ukraine as a lab rat where they test strategies they have been testing elsewhere and failing! They did the same exact thing in Saudi Arabia and lost half a dozen planes there too.
This war is not going to end as long as Ukraine is being treated as the "experiment field".

I'll add to your conclusion:
1. Regional subjects of the federation began a quiet rebellion about mobilization. The Kremlin decided that in the depressive regions of Russia (and this is approximately 50% -60% of the entire territory of Russia), the population is worth nothing, and its sending for slaughter will go unnoticed, plus they will "clean up the territories" from the population, which can arrange a riot out of hopelessness. "Russian rebellion is senseless and merciless" No, these are not my fantasies. One simple example. In some Russian regions, in view of compensation for a husband/son/father who was forcibly forced to mobilize, families were paid "compensation" in the form of ... several kilograms of frozen fish That is, Kremlin terrorists value their citizen at several kilograms of frozen fish . You can easily check this fact, even according to the Russian media
So, many regions began to ask questions - why in the terrorist war against Ukraine, the Kremlin does not call on "ethnic Russians" from Moscow, St. Petersburg!? But only men from the hinterland of the country ....

2. Realizing that such a mobilization will sooner or later lead to "women's riots", and set fire to the whole country, where there is already a high level of tension, the Kremlin Nazis gave the go-ahead to ... the forced conscription of males in Moscow and St. Petersburg! Yesterday was a wonderful day for many Russians who made plans for the future... they were crossed out by military commissars, near many metro stations, where all individuals with male characteristics were forcibly issued summons "to be slaughtered". And obedient citizens of Russia took them silently, forgetting about the law, honor, and their rights. Most of them will die, as more than 25% of those who have already been mobilized have already died ... And no matter how Putin lied from the blue screens - about "defending the motherland", these bodies will simply be consumables in order to TRY to delay the total defeat Russian army.
About the forced issuance of subpoenas to the military enlistment offices in Moscow and St. Petersburg, you can easily find in the Russian media

Dear Sithara007!
I just came across your above post, and realized that many of your statements are based on a lack of knowledge, including the history of your native India, what can we say about other countries?!
Therefore, let me give you a short digression into the history of YOUR country, well, or a history lesson, since you either do not control the situation or deliberately distort HISTORY

So, let's start - the Farsi language. On which you have "no one spoke and does not speak." It's not Iranian. This is PERSIAN. This is a very important point!
So, if you study history, you will find out:
- Ahmadnagar Sultanate - the official language is PERSIAN
- Bidar Sultanate - the official language is PERSIAN
- Golconian Sultanate - the official language is PERSIAN

Persian was the official language of the Sassanid state. After the conquest of Iran by the Arabs (7th century AD), it was preserved in the Zoroastrian communities of Iran, as well as among the Parsis of India. INDIA! Variants of Aramaic graphics were used on the letter.
New Persian, known since the 9th century, uses a modified Arabic script. After the Islamization of Iran, Persian is rapidly becoming the second literary language of the Islamic world. It was widely used not only in Persia, but also throughout the Middle East, as well as Central Asia, the Transcaucasus, and INDIA.

Those. half of India HISTORICALLY inhabited by Persian-speaking peoples! This is a fact that you obviously will not refute. This means that you, as an honest person, not two-faced, should also offer these territories to decide and become independent! There it is necessary to hold referendums for secession or joining Iran! Or again "this is not the same case"?

PS And a question to test "double standards" - tell me, why are you silent about the most severe suppression of the will of the free people of independent Ichkeria in the 1990s?
And why are you not worried about the strictest ban in Russia on holding referendums on recognition of independence or secession from the subjects of federation?

PS And most importantly - remember a very important truth - supporting the criminal, or his ideas - you will either become an accomplice of the criminal, or his victim ... It's only a matter of time!

The Ukraine-Russia war will cause a delay in economic growth in many countries, especially Europe.


Although countries in Africa, America and Asia were also affected, the ones who felt the greatest impact were the countries on the European continent. The EU needs to make new policies to reduce the impact of the crisis.
I recently saw a video on Twitter showing the chaos of the oil struggle at the gas station in France, I don't know if the video is true or a hoax but if it does happen then it's a setback for the EU.

Especially in Europe, which was most affected by the wars between Russia and Ukraine,
The energy crisis hit Europe and was followed by inflation so that this condition was definitely bad,
If things like this continue for a long time, it is not impossible that countries in Europe can gradually become bankrupt

A large part of the Russian military deaths are not from the armed forces. Thousands of Ukrainian citizens were drafted in to the militias of DNR and LNR in the recent months, and according to their official stats, around 5,000 have died. PMC Wagner has suffered thousands of casualties, along with other private militias. And most of the Russian military deaths have been from rural areas of Buryatia, Tyva, Daghestan and Ossetia. Unless conscripts from major cities such as Moscow and Kazan starts dying, the public opinion won't change.

Now mankind has approached the dangerous line of relatively rapid global climate change, and largely due to the fact that large quantities of oil, gas, and their processed products - gasoline, diesel fuel, fuel oil, etc. are burned in large quantities. Scientists predict that after some time In some parts of the Earth, the temperature will rise to 50 degrees or more, and life there will be impossible. And this is just the beginning.

Now the countries of the European Union are refusing Russian oil and gas not only in order not to sponsor the war by paying a terrorist state for these energy resources and to avoid blackmailing Russia. These countries are adopting accelerated programs for the irrevocable transition to alternative sources of "green" energy, which will not have such a detrimental effect on the planet's climate.

Your country also needs to gradually phase out the consumption of oil and gas if you want not only your children, but many future generations of people to live on Earth.

^^^ I have a feeling that the Saudis are not very keen to maintain their production levels. Already there is some tension between Riyadh and Washington over the output cuts announced last time:

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/10/14/middleeast/us-saudi-oil-spat-options-mime-intl/index.html
https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/white-house-pushes-back-saudi-claim-oil-cut-was-purely-economic-2022-10-13/

If the production capacity gets impacted as a result of missile strikes from Yemen, then I believe that at least some of the government officials in Saudi would be happy about it.

Oil production does not have a switch that you can flip to increase the cap specially when you are production at maximum capacity possible. Even more so when you are at war. The situation with Saudis is actually very similar to Russians. They too have invaded their neighbor and have been at war for a long time. The only difference is that their neighbor is not desperately begging Americans to give them very short range missiles that could barely reach 300 km range, but with the help of their allies they've managed to manufacture long range ballistic missiles with a range higher than 1500 km that has allowed them to hit their invader's infrastructure.
Hence the attack on Saudi oil production facilities and the decreased production that has not gone back up again.

P.S. This morning Saudis bombed Al Hudaydah and the armed forces of Yemen threatened to retaliate. We have to wait and see if Aramco goes up in smokes again and how much oil production is going to decrease this time if it does. Last time it was cut by half if I'm not mistaken.

Of course, the impact of the Russian vs Ukraine war has been felt, this can be seen from my country that has difficulty meeting oil needs because it has long depending on oil and gas from Russia, it is not easy to find a country that wants oil and gas supply because the needs of oil and gas always rise and cannot buy freely.

If I pay attention to the impact of war on the global economic crisis, I see that the phenomenon or effect of this war is really similar to the concept of 'Butterfly effect' which was first introduced by Edward Norton Lorenz. he calls it that because it refers to the fluttering of a butterfly's wings in the Brazilian jungle that can produce a tornado in Texas. the effect was initially not so great for some countries, but it turns out that the more it is here the effect really has a big impact on almost all countries in the world. then it really reminds me of the 'Butterfly effect'. and that means it could be from the war Russia and Ukraine could make other countries join the war. even now NATO has helped Ukraine. which means the war is now even bigger because it's like the war of Russia vs. Nato. I became more worried about the growing impact and triggering world war 3. Even the current economic condition is really affected by the war that happened. triggered by gas and energy supply and spread to other sectors.

I am usually a relaxed person. but now I'm a more worried person. especially in economic terms. thus forcing myself personally to make preparations to anticipate what will happen in the future on global economic conditions. Even the well-known Chinese economy is still experiencing an increase in inflation, which is up to 2.8% (Based on CPI data). it's not a big number. but the economic movements of China and America always have a big impact on the global economy, especially in market movements. be it stocks or crypto.

Just when we were seeing signs of the global economy recovering during the COVID-19 pandemic, Russia decided to invade Ukraine for no reason. Now things are worse than they were before, with inflation rates soaring towards new heights. I don't think central banks' measures to control inflation will work because the war has caused a huge disruption in the global supply chain. Nations need to solve these problems first before talking about a possible recovery of their local economies. Putin was right when he said "sanctions have backfired".

Now the world is feeling the pain as rising food, energy, and gas prices make the average person poorer than before. Most people have a high cost of living thanks to Russia's invasion of Ukraine. Unless the two countries come into some sort of agreement (peace deal?), the world economy will continue to deteriorate until there will be no room for recovery. There are talks about a deep recession by 2023, meaning more pain ahead for lower and middle class people. Let's hope it'll all be over soon, so we could get back to normal. Just my thoughts

Can you prove that there was no increase in oil production? I am ready to grant you the right to publish here statistics on oil production in the interval July 2022 - October 2022! And let's see if the promise was kept or not? The fact that they have now decided to PULL back oil production by 2 million barrels is a situational decision that has many reasons, at least personal commercial ones. But be that as it may, the market got a little "nervous" and went down again.. no, not by $200, but by 75 from 80

Real time chart:
https://ru.investing.com/commodities/crude-oil-urals-spot-futures-streaming-chart

2 Sithara007 : We are not afraid, by the way, unlike Russia, where even talking about freedom of expression is a criminal case Here is another point.
1. There is no Donbas people There is a population of Ukraine, in the UKRAINIAN region, where there is a certain part of the population that decided that they are unique and better than others. A variant of such a referendum is even described in Ukrainian legislation - an all-Ukrainian referendum, because. this is a question of the ALL PEOPLE of Ukraine. But not under gun barrels, without total falsifications (did you watch the video that I dumped? ) In the presence of real observers. But even here there is a nuance - neither insignificant groups of separatists nor the terrorist country Russia accept such an option.
And once again - the Dutch, the British lived in India for many centuries - let's their heirs vote for the entry of part of India into Britain or the Netherlands? Answer the question - do you agree with this idea? If not - why not?

2 pooya87 : Tell me - for what reason, in Russia:
- destroyed the independent Republic of Ichkeria, which held a referendum and the majority of the population decided to be an independent country?
- Why are such referendums strictly prohibited in Russian legislation? With the most amusing fact - this ban was introduced immediately after the "referendum" that the occupation troops of Russia "held" in the Autonomous Republic of Crimea?

And the answer to both of you - first, on a personal example, in your countries, hold referendums (see the features above)!

About two months ago, the President of Ukraine in the Armed Forces of Ukraine openly declared that they were launching an offensive on the southern front. Russia, in response to this, pulled the most combat-ready units and a lot of all kinds of weapons into the Kherson region in southern Ukraine. The statements of the Ukrainian command were deliberate, because after the concentration of Russian troops on the right bank of the Dnieper, Ukraine damaged all four bridges across the Dnieper with high-precision missiles and approximately 25-30 thousand Russian invaders were actually trapped and surrounded. They cannot depart, because the wide Dnieper is behind them. So, the main Antonovsky bridge has a length of about 1300 meters. The Russians will not swim across there, and Russian barges and pontoon bridges are periodically destroyed. Therefore, for more than a month, the remnants of the regular Russian army have been without the necessary replenishment of equipment and ammunition, there is a problem with food and even with water and warm clothes. All this time, the Armed Forces of Ukraine regularly strike at command posts, ammunition depots and accumulations of manpower and equipment.

At the same time, from the beginning of October, the Armed Forces of Ukraine really went on the offensive against the exhausted Russian troops, freeing more than 1,100 square kilometers of their territory in the Kherson direction, which Russia had already managed to annex to the Russian Federation on paper. The ring over this grouping of Russian troops is shrinking. The Russians are increasingly surrendering. A major defeat is inevitable there, so Putin is looking for a decent way out of this war, but Ukraine does not leave any chances, despite the massive rocket attacks on peaceful Ukrainian cities in the past four days.

The war of a big country like Russia certainly triggers the inhibition of the goods needed so it is natural that food prices are now becoming more expensive due to the difficulty of production and also restrictions on the delivery of goods outside the region so that everyone has felt the impact. And this is clearly not good for the whole world because people who live in peaceful countries (without war) also have to feel the high price of the goods they need and that is a very unnatural thing even though it is happening right now.

Experts at a virtual symposium hosted by MIT's Center for Transport and Logistics said that "The Russo-Ukrainian War had a major impact on global supply chains, hampering the flow of goods, triggering dramatic cost increases and product shortages, and creating catastrophic food shortages around the world." And this is actually an effect that not everyone wants at this point, especially for those who are not fighting for their country. _{Source: mitsloan}

yes it is, my friend, in fact, in my opinion, food prices are getting more expensive now, and what I fear is that in 2023 the economic situation will get worse, but we still have to be patient in living this life. Yes, I can only say hopefully in the future the economy will improve again. and running smoothly.

Why did you decide that in Donetsk or Lugansk, someone has the right to decide whether this territory will belong to sovereign Ukraine or not? Perhaps you just have a gap in knowledge? And you decided that the inhabitants of Russia ALWAYS LIVED there? Then I will upset you - NO! There was an ARTIFICIAL and FORCED eviction of the indigenous population (Ukrainians) from the 30s of the last century to the 60s, and in their place they brought rabble from the territory of the RSFSR. Who settled in the houses of those whom the Kremlin sent to death. Before declaring such nonsense - study the subject area

ZY.Total: according to your logic, it is necessary to give the right to all states of India - to decide - will they be part of Britain, or the USA, for example? After all, they speak English there, and representatives of Britain and the USA lived and live there

This reminded of the first days of the invasion when the Russians had forgotten to bring enough fuel and got stuck

Are they really?
Looking at the site @DrBeer shared some time ago (https://deepstatemap.live/) all the occupied regions are directly connected to mainland Russia (through land or sea of Azov, also accessible through the Black sea).
The Ukraine progress is also pushing Russians back not surrounding them or cutting them from behind to be able to cut any of the supply/retreat routes.