The Legend of Satoshi Nakamato, FINAL STEP PUBLISHED.... 4.87 BTC GRAND PRIZE! - page 20.

captainnoob

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Quote from: Pan Troglodytes on January 24, 2018, 11:07:32 AM

dude, you forgot to factor in "blob" which is the fatness of inside of the flame and comes in two varieties (fat and thin). It makes for another bit for each flame and makes the problem you are posting intractable.

Also, the rule (at least for the previous puzzle) was: no brute forcing. But of course, I am desperate too and some little brute forcing never hurt anybody

I did think that there might be something to the thickness, which led me to consider a possible code 128 mini-key barcode being embedded in some way. After failing to generate any functional barcode from this, I gave in to the notion that the brush strokes look like they were applied pretty quickly (or hastily for lack of a better term). When I watch my wife paint, she gets pretty into it sometimes and can get going pretty fast. It creates quite a bit of irregularity and similar looking brush strokes. So to me it seems more reasonable to chock some details, like this one, up to artistic flow.

I am probably wrong about why I am wrong. I have not come up with anything that I have solid confidence in.

In regards to the brute forcing, I agree after giving it more thought. If there was a significantly smaller number of possibilities and I had more confidence in the idea, though, I would not consider it brute forcing.

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Quote from: kn0w0n3 on January 24, 2018, 10:59:43 AM

your output is going to be astronomical..., so what I'm saying is, unless you can think of some ways to narrow this down, I don't think it's worth the effort.

Yeah, I started doing more of the math last night and it just seems unreasonable to decipher or decode any information in this way. I wanted to lean towards finding some Morse code after looking at the ribbons (.--./.-. stood out as WR). But that could have easily been coincidental.

I think I am grasping at straws as a result over-thinking. I read through a description of a previous puzzle and it pushed me in the direction of looking for pure data or a bitstream somewhere. Now I am leaning towards the "finding pictures in clouds" approach.

I am very entertained by this puzzle, but I am pretty sure I am spinning my wheels. I would really love to brainstorm in real-time if anyone has a discord or anything set up.

Pan Troglodytes

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Quote from: captainnoob on January 23, 2018, 09:09:12 PM

There are 8 unique combination of border/fill/height for each of the flames on the border (10 if you count the orange ones, but they look like noise to me).

Red,Green,Tall
Red,Green,Short
Red,Purple,Tall
Red,Purple,Short
Yellow,Green,Tall
Yellow,Green,Short
Yellow,Purple,Tall
Yellow,Purple,Short

I think there is a real possibility that this a representation of octal, but not direct octal > text. I think it might be encoded a couple of levels... Something like octal > hex -or- binary > Morse > etc.

There are 40,320 possible ways to assign 0-8 to each of the color/height combinations. Also, not knowing the direction to read the information makes it more of a shot in the dark. So manually checking this might be unreasonable, and even scripting this is going to produce quite a bit of information to sift through. It would be nice if there were some clues available that might narrow the possibilities. I will try to script this out when I have some time. I think it might be best to grab a small sample rather than the whole thing.

If anyone has the ability to get this scripted out faster than me, I would really appreciate it if you would share your code with me.

dude, you forgot to factor in "blob" which is the fatness of inside of the flame and comes in two varieties (fat and thin). It makes for another bit for each flame and makes the problem you are posting intractable.

Also, the rule (at least for the previous puzzle) was: no brute forcing. But of course, I am desperate too and some little brute forcing never hurt anybody

kn0w0n3

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Quote from: captainnoob on January 23, 2018, 09:09:12 PM

There are 8 unique combination of border/fill/height for each of the flames on the border (10 if you count the orange ones, but they look like noise to me).

Red,Green,Tall
Red,Green,Short
Red,Purple,Tall
Red,Purple,Short
Yellow,Green,Tall
Yellow,Green,Short
Yellow,Purple,Tall
Yellow,Purple,Short

I think there is a real possibility that this a representation of octal, but not direct octal > text. I think it might be encoded a couple of levels... Something like octal > hex -or- binary > Morse > etc.

There are 40,320 possible ways to assign 0-8 to each of the color/height combinations. Also, not knowing the direction to read the information makes it more of a shot in the dark. So manually checking this might be unreasonable, and even scripting this is going to produce quite a bit of information to sift through. It would be nice if there were some clues available that might narrow the possibilities. I will try to script this out when I have some time. I think it might be best to grab a small sample rather than the whole thing.

If anyone has the ability to get this scripted out faster than me, I would really appreciate it if you would share your code with me.

I can modify my code to do this, but I don't know what you are going to do with the output, After you've represented the 152 flames as octal numbers and converted that to binary you'll have 456 bits. I'm not sure how you would convert that to morse, seeing as morse is trinary.., but let's say you could. We still don't know starting position, so we could try all 456 possibilities combined with your 40,320 possible ways of assigning octal numbers is 18,385,920 outputs. Wanna read the inner and outer tracks both directions? 73,543,680 possible combinations. Don't know whether to start with inner or outer flames? 147,087,360 possible outputs. Forgetting that maybe all 8 tracks were painted out of order and seeing as, in reality, you will also need to brute force the spaces, your output is going to be astronomical..., so what I'm saying is, unless you can think of some ways to narrow this down, I don't think it's worth the effort. I mean you could compare the output to a dictionary, but that doesn't do you any good if she/he/they didn't hide a message.

neogabe

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Quote from: captainnoob on January 23, 2018, 09:09:12 PM

If anyone has the ability to get this scripted out faster than me, I would really appreciate it if you would share your code with me.

Maybe you could modify this code... https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.28303552, you have an input data example too.

neogabe

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Quote from: sini on January 24, 2018, 02:48:13 AM

freenode ##1flamen6

Perhaps it's better to keep the channel private or at least not posting the name here. It could become full of trolls.

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freenode ##1flamen6

feedo

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Quote from: white_[x]_rabbit on January 18, 2018, 06:37:36 PM

Do you still count the flame? They carry information to look at the image where the details matter.

You still do not follow me, you do not trust the rabbit, still many of you can not see me in the picture.

Why?

In your world it is hard to understand that nothing is the same?

Because in the picture it is not an ordinary world.

WONDERLAND

captainnoob

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There are 8 unique combination of border/fill/height for each of the flames on the border (10 if you count the orange ones, but they look like noise to me).

Red,Green,Tall
Red,Green,Short
Red,Purple,Tall
Red,Purple,Short
Yellow,Green,Tall
Yellow,Green,Short
Yellow,Purple,Tall
Yellow,Purple,Short

I think there is a real possibility that this a representation of octal, but not direct octal > text. I think it might be encoded a couple of levels... Something like octal > hex -or- binary > Morse > etc.

There are 40,320 possible ways to assign 0-8 to each of the color/height combinations. Also, not knowing the direction to read the information makes it more of a shot in the dark. So manually checking this might be unreasonable, and even scripting this is going to produce quite a bit of information to sift through. It would be nice if there were some clues available that might narrow the possibilities. I will try to script this out when I have some time. I think it might be best to grab a small sample rather than the whole thing.

If anyone has the ability to get this scripted out faster than me, I would really appreciate it if you would share your code with me.

sini

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I will be publishing more research/code and starting a new IRC likely today if people want to hop in.

neogabe

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Quote from: mbitm on January 22, 2018, 03:11:27 PM

Beyond Our Fiery [...]

It's clearly related, you can see the puzzle as a thumbnail https://imgur.com/a/pTgqF, but I don't know if it's only an inspiring text or a path to follow...

mbitm

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Beyond Our Fiery Grave

When I fall into a crumpled shattered heap, you gather my broken pieces.

When I'm engulfed in flames, a prisoner to my own anger and confusion;
You brazen the stormy wrath, and lead me steadily through the blinding rage.

In your confident gaze, I remember my hopes, my inspirations.
My constant companion, I live in the depths of your love.

In your hands, I discover a firm place to stand; You mend my tattered wings, and gently nudge me forward.

Calm and quiet hands, slow to anger, full of strength; Will seek for me in my darkest hour, and hold me fast.

My loyal Turtle, I will forever be your Phoenix, whom will love you beyond our fiery grave.
© 2 years ago, ytcoinartist

https://allpoetry.com/poem/12170706-Beyond-Our-Fiery-Grave--by-ytcoinartist

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cx_primo

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Try still working out on my desk. I want also how to know the answer.

feedo

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Quote from: itod on January 22, 2018, 02:21:59 PM

Quote from: feedo on January 22, 2018, 01:55:14 PM

How did i breach the forum policy with this post?!

You breach the forum policy with every post:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/unofficial-list-of-official-bitcointalkorg-rules-guidelines-faq-703657

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Forum rules

1. No zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts or threads. [1][e]
...
3. No trolling.

You are trolling constantly. Your posts are of 0 value for absolutely everyone in this thread. Show me your single post that in any form contributed to solving the puzzle. Stop promoting your opinion, nobody cares if you think people are going in the wrong direction. How can it be said more directly? Do not argue with others about their actions and methods. Contribute with your own or shut up.

To your knowledge,

EXCEPT THE WHITE RABBIT POSTS every single post in this forum including your posts are:
pointless, uninteresting, have zero or no value.

@itod
You are trolling constantly. Your posts are of 0 value for absolutely everyone in this thread. Show me your single post that in any form contributed to solving the puzzle?!

sini

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Quote from: itod on January 22, 2018, 02:21:59 PM

Quote from: feedo on January 22, 2018, 01:55:14 PM

How did i breach the forum policy with this post?!

You breach the forum policy with every post:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/unofficial-list-of-official-bitcointalkorg-rules-guidelines-faq-703657

Quote

Forum rules

1. No zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts or threads. [1][e]
...
3. No trolling.

You are trolling constantly. Your posts are of 0 value for absolutely everyone in this thread. Show me your single post that in any form contributed to solving the puzzle. Stop promoting your opinion, nobody cares if you think people are going in the wrong direction. How can it be said more directly? Do not argue with others about their actions and methods. Contribute with your own or shut up.

itod

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^ Will code for Bitcoins

Quote from: feedo on January 22, 2018, 01:55:14 PM

How did i breach the forum policy with this post?!

You breach the forum policy with every post:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/unofficial-list-of-official-bitcointalkorg-rules-guidelines-faq-703657

Quote

Forum rules

1. No zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts or threads. [1][e]
...
3. No trolling.

You are trolling constantly. Your posts are of 0 value for absolutely everyone in this thread. Show me your single post that in any form contributed to solving the puzzle. Stop promoting your opinion, nobody cares if you think people are going in the wrong direction. How can it be said more directly? Do not argue with others about their actions and methods. Contribute with your own or shut up.

feedo

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i don't know why such a comment by me deleted?!
How did i breach the forum policy with this post?!

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Good luck for you with those trolling flames.
The first big step is a minecraft server.

i'll say it again: "THE FIRST BIG STEP IN THIS PUZZLE IS A MINECRAFT SERVER"

jakerfox

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Wonder if this is just a clue presently, or perhaps a future clue? Or maybe just simply the genesis block. It seems appropriate to start bitcoin puzzle with Satoshi Nakamoto's hidden original message. Cry