Topic: The Legend of Satoshi Nakamato, FINAL STEP PUBLISHED.... 4.87 BTC GRAND PRIZE! - page 17. (Read 108519 times)

regarding the infrared effect (Night vision) the rabbit mentioned that idea just to group the flames which may imply that evey flame you can see with infrared is a real flame (1) the others (0)
when you apply the infrared effect (which means you can see at night without any light) then the image looks like this: (Green colour is dominant)
https://imgur.com/a/tQC0W
it's the same technique used in military binoculars in order to see the enemy at night.

the idea that you mention to mirror and blend images trying to get something out is more suitable and possible if it was a digital art, but in case of painting it would be so difficult for the creators to hide something using that technique.
But i am still skeptical because there is the word Fold (Fo on the dove and Ld on the phoenix)
it may imply that we have to fold the image or blend a part of it, or it could refer to that 3-D Fold in the middle (blue and red tiles)

it's important too to answer these two questions:
1) who is inside the key hole mirror, the face inside that keyhole is either a reflection of the Top part of the Queen piece or a reflection of the Knight.
The white rabbit posted a hint "Who are you in these puzzles? Sometimes something is small and sometimes something is big"

https://imgur.com/3URkIsv

for me i see the white piece represents Queen Alice and the face in the mirror its reflection (maybe that key hole is the rabbit hole and represents the first chapter of the story)

2) if we can see an image in second mirror (that with blue pyramid), Then, where is the real object of that reflection? and those letters in the image how we can read it?

BTW: in your first image there is (Af) in the bottom right corner (inside the flame), i've seen it before but i don't know what does it mean.

Thank you.

I think what she said could have been taken a couple of ways... Either the image has all information contained within it, or the image is a trailhead for a new puzzle that doesn't require knowledge of the previous puzzles. I am leaning towards the latter.

Here is what captainoob asked for, she explicitly said under the twitter post with high resolution image that nothing from the previous steps is needed for the solution, only the painting:
https://twitter.com/coin_artist/status/945728698518593538

Edit:
One more thing, notice she calls it "1FLAMEN6 Puzzzle". AFAIK this is the first time we have a conformation that "N6" is not a random product of vanity generator but something intentionally put there. Does it mean "in six" is open to discussion.

Zbyszek2 there is no reason to apologize. And it is not a mistake you made.

I think that it is methodologically correct to compare any regularity you find against random data to verify if it is there by intention or accident. You see, what other way do we have to detect intentional regularities if not like you did?

If we find regularities, we might have a chance to exploit them and discover why they are there, as I tried to describe in my previous post.

So thank you for that piece of info that in principle 42 random bits are enough to get a private key for FLAMEN6 (I admit I was not fully aware of this fact even though crax0r analysis was excellent, but I didn't do that last step of reasoning myself), but still I am positive that all 256-304 bits are written there in the flames somehow. I think your lead from your first post is a very precious piece of information to uncover how to read them and there is no need to undermine it.

And I would be thankful for a link (Twitter?) to where Coin Artist said she coded the message with bacon cyphre. This bacon piece of info popped up out of nowhere and one moment nobody and the next everybody is searching for bacon coded hidden messages.

The reason why I am asking is I thought it would be rather coded with full byte coding, I was thinking of ISO-8859-1,  the default  for QR codes, which I think is incidentally same as the Code Page 437 mentioned before (when restricted to a-z, A-Z, 0-9 at least). I compared them very briefly though so I may be mistaken.

So please, anybody has the Twitter link or at least recalls what exactly she said?

ea oem 011

https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Embedded-Artists/EA-OEM-011/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMurtJ7VwBTl0XdY1ODeH1tNIheveDlRZ%252b8=

Can we confirm the ea oem 011 is actually a valid info point, or just something the troll spat out

Do you happen to have a link to that or know where I could search to find where she said that? I have read a few comments where people state that she said that, but I haven't read it personally. I have not been digging into this for very long, but I do not believe it is probable that this image has enough on its own to meaningfully interpret the data without random guesses and brute forcing.

wasnt coin artist supposed to have said that this painting is self-contained ie there shouldnt be any more logging on to minecraft servers or finding pdfs on google or whatever?  what exactly was said is there a twitter link or something?  the white-rabbit person seems potentially legit but i dont think anyone would have pulled "ea oem 011" out of this image in a quadrillion years, and if coin artist did state that this painting is self-contained then that seems to detract from rabbit's legitimacy?

Yes, one of your entries helped me to realize my mistake, but as mentioned by Pan Troglodytes, the correlations between different bit streams are still  there
(amongst them correlation between green/blue and slim/fat)

I agree that there has to be something visual to find. Reflecting on the old MAD Magazine folding images and the many references to mirrors and perspective I have read by people who may or may not be privy to the true solution, I made a few attempts at manipulating the image to see if anything popped out.

I put together an album. I included some descriptions in the captions. Please take a look and see if anything jumps out at you.

https://imgur.com/a/aJgyj

Exactly. I did research that as well for itod: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.26795620

Like you said, when dealing with chaos, to receive X bits of your choice, you may very likely only have to change X bits in the input, regardless of the intermediate steps. In my research it's a loop of SHA256. The Private->public key computation serves just as well, hence the private key could be like 200 zeros followed by 56 or less bits of actual random data. It could be also Bacon26-encoded 10 random words from the English dictionary, whatever meets the entropic-I/O-shift requirements.

LOL dude chill, my post had nothing to do with you. Like captainnoob said, I was merely mentioning that this research was done and that it cannot be ruled out (30char minikey resulting in public vanitized address). Key point of the post was to prove that there are MANY ways to look at the puzzle which the Authors likely did not consider. These points may very likely render the entire puzzle unsolvable.

Crax0r, i think you are certainly heading in the right direction, and I have some ideas I think may be of use.

1.) The 'fm_aur' message, which was discovered within the height data, seems to be another cipher which somehow indicates how to interpret the rest of data from the flames.  Are you able to reproduce that message with this character set: (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_page_437) ?

2.) It seems possible that another flame data-set could be formed from the flame's inner colors, (0=red/purple, 1=green) for a few reasons.  The '011010' that was discovered starting from the 'rabbit's eye' on the left side of the inner-top could potentially be a starting point, but we still don't know how to navigate the rest of the way?

Using this inner flame method, perhaps we are meant to ignore any (light orange) flames, or blobs, which do not clearly have distinct INNER and outer colors.

3.) I am fascinated with the part about the bottom of the bishop/queen.  Considering mirrors are a theme in Alice and Wonderland, perhaps you are supposed to 'mirror' or reverse the data at a certain point?
Or instead it may indicate the direction to read the flames this way... along with the 4 shapes in the corners..  
I am very curious about the three drips and also that dark shape, which almost looks like a rabbit tail.  Maybe you are supposed to do a three-step decryption process, and the data set ends at the last drip?

I also think the colored chess squares in the center could be important.  Has anyone counted them or thought about interpreting them as data somehow?

As usual much of this is speculation, but I thought It might help someone who can code in this thread.

Thank you for sharing, Steganography is the most important element in this puzzle (more than cryptography and complicated calculations), the problem with those characters and symbols is that they are highly subjective which means that you can see something that the others can't see or see it in a different way and vise versa.

if you don't put a circle or mark on what you see it's impossible for us to see it.
i can't see for example that number (14722?) in your posted image.
could you please upload an image and put a circle or mark on where you found that (N 1984 Dr. Mab....WASABI).
i did a color analysis for more than 10 colors and the most interesting is the black color but i didn't see something like your texts (there are just symbols)

for the letters i don't know how you interpret it as the only thing that i see is those black
symbols under the flames... see here for example:
https://imgur.com/a/FcMKC

i don't know what do you mean by using ASCII ,do you mean that we can translate some symbols using ASCII... here is an example: (how we can read this)
https://imgur.com/a/YurM0
There is a < symbol  and Y letter in bold blue between dove chest and phoenix.

have you noticed that there is a heart shape on the phoenix head? (not mentioned before)
https://imgur.com/a/yy5ZS

do you see that there are letters in the mirrors? with laughing clown face in the key mirror?
https://imgur.com/a/7tKqm
https://imgur.com/a/5OywO

in the second mirror i see (eej5)
https://imgur.com/a/MNw2K

if you put that in Google one of the result is a minecraft skin for a player who played only like one hour and visited 3 servers

https://minecraft-statistic.net/en/player/eej5.html
https://minecraft-statistic.net/en/player/eej5/servers/

i can't check them as i don't have the Minecraft Pc version, but even if there is nothing in those servers i still highly believe that there is some kind of external work in this puzzle (external files, minecraft server, other sites to deal with)
Look at the previous puzzles there were external files and servers to deal with, that way the puzzle becomes more interesting and takes additional time and engages the team work more and more.

another reason is that we have many symbols and characters scattered all over the painting that can be interpreted in some words then we could search for it in Google (ea oem 011 was an example)

You seem disproportionately annoyed with what crax0r said there. He was just explaining to another person that we have been exploring many different avenues and your response seems to indicate that you have taken something personally.

sorry, i just have to say.  we are still hung up on this?  jeez you guys.  you link to some random comment i made that a minikey SEEMS LESS LIKELY, and that I was unaware of a vanitygen that comes STOCK with a minikey mining mode.  for a bunch of pedantic nerds you are absolutely terrible at being pedantic.  SEEMS LESS LIKELY is not even remotely the same as saying "impossible."  obviously.  clearly.  self-evidently.  and asking if there is anything that comes STOCK with such functionality is, again obviously, clearly, self-evidently a way of saying YES IT IS CLEARLY POSSIBLE.  that is to say, put in a different way, CLEARLY I WAS NOT SAYING IT IS IMPOSSIBLE.  put yet another way, if you were buying a car and you asked if it comes stock with a fat sound system, you would not be asking "do fat sound systems exist" or "is it possible for fat sound systems to exist anywhere in time and space," you would clearly be asking simply if it typically comes with it as-is.  for even yet further clarification, i in fact am writing my own vanitygen as a fun little programming exercise, including minikey mining because why not.  allow me to demonstrate how to do pedantry better:

ped·ant·ry /ˈped(ə)ntrē/   excessive concern with minor details
seem /sēm/   used to make a statement or description of one's thoughts, feelings, or actions less assertive or forceful.
like·ly /ˈlīklē/   such as well might happen or be true; probable.
stock /stäk/   of the common or ordinary type; in common use

and to top it off you then even link to you demonstrating a "PROOF" that it is possible... lol.  i now await a full peer-reviewed mathematical proof on the matter.  when can we expect it?  which journal will it appear in?

I don't see a reason to apologize. We all have ideas that might lead to something or not. Thanks for your correction.
With oclvanitygen I only get ~8 hours estimation for 1FLAMEN6. The creators are into cryptocurrency for many years already so they will have tools and processing power to create keys how they desire in a fraction of time.

The public key can be encoded along the private key, which could be used to explain how the private key is encoded. ie: Outer ring is public, inner is private or vice versa.

What benefit would we have from the public key? Bruteforcing would be little more possible but still impossible

What if the public key, and private key were encoded in the painting?