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Quote from: captainnoob on January 21, 2018, 09:38:26 PM

I have been working on another (feeble) attempt at interpreting this image. As much as I would like to hold my cards close to my chest and come out as the one who solved it, I hate unknowingly retracing steps even more.

I have been looking at applying a code 128 barcode to the flames in case a mini-key is what we are looking for. I have been looking at the thickness and re-arranging the top/bottom/left/right segments in an order that might create a barcode that might actually be readable.

I have also considered incorporating the color combinations to determine which flames should/shouldn't be included. Or, perhaps the short flames are one barcode (or section) and the tall flames are another. I am doing my barcode creation manually via image editors, but I am wondering if there is a programmatic way to do this.

I am still hoping that many of us are holding their cards and working in the shadows, perhaps in a private IRC channel or something like that.

Did you check https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=766000.320 and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=766000.560? Could be useful to create a barcode, especially @alphabetacanary's work.

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Quote from: mbitm on January 22, 2018, 12:31:50 AM

4- Has anyone tried to trace the roots?

Yes, but I abandoned that idea..., unless someone comes up with something as to what they might mean that seems plausible.

Here you go: https://imgur.com/0S8oaPd https://imgur.com/K07xn2w

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1 - maybe this is necessary in the future: https://prnt.sc/i3rbud

2- maybe if we take out everything that needs to be taken, we'll find more clues?

https://prnt.sc/i3rgt6

3 - this seems artificial: http://prntscr.com/i3rirv

4- Has anyone tried to trace the roots?

5 - sorry for my English Tongue

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Quote from: zbyszek2 on January 21, 2018, 04:45:33 PM

https://imgur.com/oLzQaRP

I am not nay-saying your hypothesis, but want to provide another perspective... When I draw a spiral, I tend to start in the middle and work my way out, so maybe the direction could be reversed. Also, if these are Ulam spirals, they would be starting in the middle working their way outwards.

I do agree that they seem to indicate a direction to follow for the order the information in the flames (if it exists). Following this reasoning, out of the 4 spirals, there are 2 directions of travel. I instinctively tend to lean towards one direction for the inner set and the opposite direction for the outer set.

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I have been working on another (feeble) attempt at interpreting this image. As much as I would like to hold my cards close to my chest and come out as the one who solved it, I hate unknowingly retracing steps even more.

I have been looking at applying a code 128 barcode to the flames in case a mini-key is what we are looking for. I have been looking at the thickness and re-arranging the top/bottom/left/right segments in an order that might create a barcode that might actually be readable.

I have also considered incorporating the color combinations to determine which flames should/shouldn't be included. Or, perhaps the short flames are one barcode (or section) and the tall flames are another. I am doing my barcode creation manually via image editors, but I am wondering if there is a programmatic way to do this.

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Yet another idea:

some leaves are pointing inside chess squares,
what if they indicate the reading order of flames sides and the direction.
Direction could be imposed by the corner spirals:
if a leaf is pointing left we go CCW, otherwise we go CW.

https://imgur.com/oLzQaRP

unfortunately I'm not sure if the green color is correct (might also be "inner top" flames)
and if the black color should be taken into account, if not we would have this order (based on leaf marked yellow):
1. inner right CCW
2. outer bottom CW
3. outer top CW
4. inner left CW

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Quote from: bug.lady on January 20, 2018, 06:02:54 PM

I read through the whole thread and that one hint (the Xs and their sequence) were never used to solve anything, also I find it awkward that the chessboard was considered in the thread before it actually appeared on the painting. It is kind of too much of a coincidence. Then again, it may be an awkward coincidence...

Are you referring to the sequence below? It was the beginning of the ARG and led to the 1follow address. The reason someone considered it as a chessboard was because there were chess references in earlier parts of the ARG, even before this image. I wouldn't expect this to related to the image though.

Code:

-=[O]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[x]=-=[x]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[x]=
-=[ ]=-=[x]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[x]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=
-=[x]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=
-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[x]=-=[ ]=
-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[x]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=
-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[x]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]E-=[M]=-=[ ]=
-=[x]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[x]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[x]=
-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[x]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=
-=[ ]=-E[x]=-=[ ]=-=[-]=-=[3]=-=[4]=-=[7]=-=[ ?
O = Origin Block
M = Message
E = Error in separators
? = Missing close square bracket

Quote from: bug.lady on January 20, 2018, 06:02:54 PM

Also there was this comment

Quote from: mirth23 on September 14, 2014, 09:42:15 AM

Quote from: frisco on September 14, 2014, 09:13:40 AM

Ok this one is pretty obvious but I have not think about it until now.
The first message has two series of numbers the encoded in the X and the 347 final part, maybe that's the user and password and we just need to properly decode both.
3 4 7 9 12 16 30 37 43 48 51 55 59 65 - 3 4 7
(...)

I think that series may be important later on, but it isn't part of this password puzzle.
(...)

and mirth23 knows what he is saying, he solved a large part of this puzzle. If this painting is really the last puzzle piece, than when to use the sequence if not NOW?

This is possible. The number 347 in particular has shown up many times throughout this series. If applying it to the flames, I'd guess you could try looking at every third flame, then every fourth, etc. Are there other ways this number sequence could relate to the image?

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Quote from: neogabe on January 20, 2018, 04:31:53 PM

Quote from: bug.lady on January 20, 2018, 09:28:20 AM

Anybody can help me connect the original message with a 7x9 board? I was working on rewriting the message into 7x9 and 9x7 grids, but the Xs don't align with any particularly meaningful objects on board (like leaves and/or chess pieces). I thought about aligning the M (text message) with the key or ribbons, but the key is in between the tiles and the ribbons are on the rightmost column and I cannot align it either.

EDIT: It is an old idea, but at that time the "hearts on fire" painting had not been published yet so puzzle solvers who connected the original message with a chessboard idea played with a 8x8 chessboard. To no avail, at that time. I am wondering if there is any new value in the idea after we have received new puzzle pieces.

I barely remember that @coin_artist said that the picture is enough to resolve the puzzle, there is no need for using other pieces of information from other puzzles or previous steps... I am sure that the exact comment is in one of the pages of this thread. Nevertheless, I don't discard your idea, I think that the "347" thing, in the puzzles and the user names of the "people involved" belongs to other lines of work.

Did you check this right? http://www.eglebbk.dds.nl/program/cvwiki//index.php?title=Yari_Shogi Is one of the old clues, already posted a year ago I think...

Sorry not being really helpful...

I read through the whole thread and that one hint (the Xs and their sequence) were never used to solve anything, also I find it awkward that the chessboard was considered in the thread before it actually appeared on the painting. It is kind of too much of a coincidence. Then again, it may be an awkward coincidence...

Also there was this comment

Quote from: mirth23 on September 14, 2014, 09:42:15 AM

Quote from: frisco on September 14, 2014, 09:13:40 AM

Ok this one is pretty obvious but I have not think about it until now.
The first message has two series of numbers the encoded in the X and the 347 final part, maybe that's the user and password and we just need to properly decode both.
3 4 7 9 12 16 30 37 43 48 51 55 59 65 - 3 4 7
(...)

I think that series may be important later on, but it isn't part of this password puzzle.
(...)

and mirth23 knows what he is saying, he solved a large part of this puzzle. If this painting is really the last puzzle piece, than when to use the sequence if not NOW?

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Quote from: neogabe on January 20, 2018, 06:33:28 AM

[By the way, I can't open your gitorious link, I think you put "680cfbb909" as the url, can you edit it please? Thanks!

I fixed the link in the original post. Here it is: https://gitorious.org/robmyers/blockchain-aesthetics/

It's not loading for me at the time of this post however...

You can also see an early commit on github with turtle graphics is from dec 2014: https://github.com/robmyers/blockchain-aesthetics/commit/33229b78023598f55a50a79f8e971f995464bd3d

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Quote from: bug.lady on January 20, 2018, 09:28:20 AM

Quote from: frisco on September 13, 2014, 02:33:40 PM

@TR3N47Y has changed it's twitter background and image.

The new avatar comes from: http://the--kyza.deviantart.com/art/Revival-276924026 titled Revival
The new background comes from: http://dani-owergoor.deviantart.com/art/Chess-305880710 titled Chess

The cite from the login also says grid, so I started thinking about where can we use a chess board, and I think it has to do with the first message and the X.

Reviewing the original messaga as a chess board 8x8 we get:

Code:

-=[O]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[x]=-=[x]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[x]=
-=[ ]=-=[x]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[x]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=
-=[x]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=
-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[x]=-=[ ]=
-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[x]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=
-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[x]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]E-=[M]=-=[ ]=
-=[x]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[x]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[x]=
-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[x]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=
-=[ ]=-E[x]=-=[ ]=-=[-]=-=[3]=-=[4]=-=[7]=-=[ ?
O = Origin Block
M = Message
E = Error in separators
? = Missing close square bracket

Anybody can help me connect the original message with a 7x9 board? I was working on rewriting the message into 7x9 and 9x7 grids, but the Xs don't align with any particularly meaningful objects on board (like leaves and/or chess pieces). I thought about aligning the M (text message) with the key or ribbons, but the key is in between the tiles and the ribbons are on the rightmost column and I cannot align it either.

EDIT: It is an old idea, but at that time the "hearts on fire" painting had not been published yet so puzzle solvers who connected the original message with a chessboard idea played with a 8x8 chessboard. To no avail, at that time. I am wondering if there is any new value in the idea after we have received new puzzle pieces.

I barely remember that @coin_artist said that the picture is enough to resolve the puzzle, there is no need for using other pieces of information from other puzzles or previous steps... I am sure that the exact comment is in one of the pages of this thread. Nevertheless, I don't discard your idea, I think that the "347" thing, in the puzzles and the user names of the "people involved" belongs to other lines of work.

Did you check this right? http://www.eglebbk.dds.nl/program/cvwiki//index.php?title=Yari_Shogi Is one of the old clues, already posted a year ago I think...

Sorry not being really helpful...

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i've found a word embedded in the image , after checking it on google i get a minecraft skin related to one user who played only one hour during 3 years and visited three servers.
interesting thing that the site recorded the first visit of the player on March 2014 !
but i don't have minecraft to check the server.

seems that i need to buy the game for 35$ Angry

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Quote from: frisco on September 13, 2014, 02:33:40 PM

@TR3N47Y has changed it's twitter background and image.

The new avatar comes from: http://the--kyza.deviantart.com/art/Revival-276924026 titled Revival
The new background comes from: http://dani-owergoor.deviantart.com/art/Chess-305880710 titled Chess

The cite from the login also says grid, so I started thinking about where can we use a chess board, and I think it has to do with the first message and the X.

Reviewing the original messaga as a chess board 8x8 we get:

Code:

-=[O]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[x]=-=[x]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[x]=
-=[ ]=-=[x]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[x]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=
-=[x]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=
-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[x]=-=[ ]=
-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[x]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=
-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[x]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]E-=[M]=-=[ ]=
-=[x]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[x]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[x]=
-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[x]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=
-=[ ]=-E[x]=-=[ ]=-=[-]=-=[3]=-=[4]=-=[7]=-=[ ?
O = Origin Block
M = Message
E = Error in separators
? = Missing close square bracket

Anybody can help me connect the original message with a 7x9 board? I was working on rewriting the message into 7x9 and 9x7 grids, but the Xs don't align with any particularly meaningful objects on board (like leaves and/or chess pieces). I thought about aligning the M (text message) with the key or ribbons, but the key is in between the tiles and the ribbons are on the rightmost column and I cannot align it either.

EDIT: It is an old idea, but at that time the "hearts on fire" painting had not been published yet so puzzle solvers who connected the original message with a chessboard idea played with a 8x8 chessboard. To no avail, at that time. I am wondering if there is any new value in the idea after we have received new puzzle pieces.

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Quote from: chubbychew on January 19, 2018, 01:34:46 PM

Quote from: neogabe on January 19, 2018, 09:06:40 AM

There are plenty of crypto-coding ideas to test here...

https://gitlab.com/users/robmyers/projects

Some of them could be used as inspiration on the current puzzle. (Or be directly applied to it). Good coding skills needed

EDIT: I just saw that he is a gitlab member since April 15, 2015, and the puzzle was published on April 3, so maybe there isn't so much useful code that I previously thought.

Nice work! This code was also posted on gitorious December 2014, predating the puzzle... anyway, thanks to you and 680cfbb909 for following up on an old lead. As I learn more about the coding side of things, I would want any null result I got to be double checked by someone with more experience anyway.

Great! I have visually checked the repos, and I'm interested in two of them: https://gitlab.com/robmyers/paintr-node and https://gitlab.com/robmyers/surgical_strike, but I didn't run them yet. By the way, I can't open your gitorious link, I think you put "680cfbb909" as the url, can you edit it please? Thanks!

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Quote from: feedo on January 19, 2018, 01:49:53 PM

maybe he means another word which is easier to see in the image, then we have to google it.

Hello believer Cool

. Yes. My assumption is your suggestion too. But the vigorous red of the boards might also be a hint. Filter it out of the painting or amplify?
There is a lot of analog/classic steganography work in this painting. I really wish we get a "making of" as soon as someone solves this puzzle.

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Quote from: HitbtcSCAM on January 19, 2018, 04:20:59 PM

satoshi equals CIA
Ask the Russian reporter who was saying that and was shut down

maybe the Russian reporter is the White Rabbit. Now he has to answer before the Creator, too

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satoshi equals CIA
Ask the Russian reporter who was saying that and was shut down

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Quote from: Zebra.Guy on January 19, 2018, 03:54:23 PM

Quote from: white_[x]_rabbit on January 19, 2018, 02:35:53 PM

Quote from: massl on January 18, 2018, 07:25:00 PM

I follow you Mr. Rabbit.
You like Dr. Mabuse? It's a good movie, Mr. Rabbit?

I will answer not typical - listen to this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2AitTPI5U0

well, there is not much to say to this, all have been said before:

Quote from: kreeoz on December 28, 2017, 06:16:00 AM

White Rabbit, I don't know what your goal is, but from what I know you are saying random things.

But do you understand that I can not say anything directly, reveal the rules of the puzzle? My hints look ordinary, but it breaks the assumptions a bit and shows more than I agree. I have to use puzzles, otherwise I will break the promises given to the creator a few years ago

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Quote from: white_[x]_rabbit on January 19, 2018, 02:35:53 PM

Quote from: massl on January 18, 2018, 07:25:00 PM

I follow you Mr. Rabbit.
You like Dr. Mabuse? It's a good movie, Mr. Rabbit?

I will answer not typical - listen to this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2AitTPI5U0

well, there is not much to say to this, all have been said before:

Quote from: kreeoz on December 28, 2017, 06:16:00 AM

White Rabbit, I don't know what your goal is, but from what I know you are saying random things.

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Quote from: white_[x]_rabbit on January 19, 2018, 02:35:53 PM

Quote from: massl on January 18, 2018, 07:25:00 PM

I follow you Mr. Rabbit.
You like Dr. Mabuse? It's a good movie, Mr. Rabbit?

I will answer not typical - listen to this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2AitTPI5U0

Thank you, Mr. Rabbit. Got it!

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Quote from: massl on January 18, 2018, 07:25:00 PM

I follow you Mr. Rabbit.
You like Dr. Mabuse? It's a good movie, Mr. Rabbit?

I will answer not typical - listen to this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2AitTPI5U0

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