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May 16, 2023, 10:55:51 AM
Sometimes I keep thinking if anything like gambling addiction could ever end. We keep seeing people getting addicted to gambling because they consistently keep doing it without the conspicuousness of what could be the adverse effect. Ending gambling addiction is not something we could easily stooped but it all involves all round awareness and help from other people to put it to an end. People who are addicted to gambling always have the problem of no quitting because they can easily control there emotions as a gambler.
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hmph..
May 16, 2023, 09:43:23 AM
This is one tough nut to crack, huh? I get where you're coming from, thinking gamblers should keep friends around if they're open to good advice. But I beg to differ. Once the gambling beast is unleashed, it's safer for pals to steer clear. You see, addiction blurs the lines of reason. Gamblers shrugging off well-meaning advice? That's denial, and they're caught in a self-destructive loop. Staying close might just fan the flames of their addiction.

I've seen it firsthand, gamblers lost in their addiction, resorting to dire acts, piling up debt, even scamming friends. It's a bitter pill to swallow, but the folks who care become likely targets of their desperate moves. In this mess, friends gotta look out for number one. Can't let the gambling vortex suck them in. Sometimes, tough love and keeping a safe distance can save friendships and prevent further hurt.

Leaving debt and scams is a complicated problem for gamblers who play with the anger and addiction that is happening here. I'm not in debt just for gambling, even now it makes me realize that having debt, especially when something changes plans, is difficult. Moreover, taking a loan with planning to be able to max-win, this is the fantasy of someone who gambles with anger, selfishness, greed and is too confident that he will get max-win or other big wins. I understand the position, they choose to be a scam, because they have nothing to pay anymore or they are trying to pay in the next few months. But, even if I had money, I chose to say no to a friend who wanted to borrow for gambling even though he said he would not gamble, if he was a gambler I would refuse. Because I realized if they lost, they might find themselves looking for another loan that would be hard on them.
Sometimes, tough love and keeping a safe distance can save friendships and prevent further hurt.
yeah, thats right, and i believe sometimes refusing is a form of attention in order to maintain friendships.
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May 16, 2023, 09:01:06 AM
That's why I said it was a mistake if someone committed suicide because of his problem. They have to be able to get up and not give up and try to finish well and realize that it was a mistake they had made.

I have felt that pain, but I can still think that committing suicide is a wrong action and should be avoided. In addition, suicide is also prohibited in any religion. But some people cannot survive and get up after experiencing bankruptcy in gambling and eventually die of recurrent heart disease.

Indeed it is a mistake to take owns life, but coward people wanted the easy way out without thinking the people they left behind will be the one to suffer.  Not only coward but also inconsiderate and selfish.
They only think of using a shortcut to end everything. They lost even when they became addicted to gambling before finally taking their own lives, thinking that was the best they could do without ever thinking there was anything they could do. If they think long and hard about trying to change everything they do, it looks like there is still a way, but of course, it requires the support of everyone around them. Without the support of the people around them, they are alone and without any strength to get up and realize their mistakes.
Not because of cowardice or just want to take a shortcut to end his life so that their debt is paid off.
There are so many people in my city who are addicted to gambling that almost kill themselves or commit suicide because sometimes when emotions run high mixed with disappointment, it will definitely take away their common sense which results in a gambling addict committing suicide.
What I'm still thinking about is why it's so easy for people to commit suicide while having a family that is ready to support them.
I think it's because they don't want to suffer any longer and can't find a way out of their problem, so they feel suicide is the best way for them. We may have seen how they are depressed to endure their suffering, and they have to pay their debts when they are billed even though they can't pay them. And they no longer have anything with which to pay off their debts. And it causes the biggest disappointment in their life, so they don't think about continuing their life by looking for another way to pay their debts. And this condition is exacerbated by family members who stay away and don't care about him, so he has to bear everything alone.
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May 16, 2023, 07:14:53 AM
I was really upset when I read the news that the OP shared. It was upsetting to learn that a person did such a thing to a small child. However, I would like to mention this detail. If that bad guy was addicted to something else, he would still do this bad behavior. I think what needs to be discussed on the main axis here is addiction. Because that bad guy was a drug addict, he could repeat the same bad behavior. I hope everyone can control themselves. Unfortunately, if we cannot control ourselves, we may experience similar endings.
You are right that an addiction to almost anything can be dangerous for a person if it becomes excessive and it becomes more dangerous for society when that addicted person starts doing things like this which in some way harms another person and even if they don't harm anyone, they will obviously ask for money in return for not doing that.

Gambling addiction also makes people do very bad things when they spend everything that they have but their urge continues tickling them to gamble more and that is when they decide to get money from somewhere by doing anything.

They are not thinking of anything but just to keep playing and satisfying their lust in gambling. I see your point and that's the valid one when there's already an addiction inside the persons minds. You can't measure how far an addicted person can go with the wild things that will comes to their minds when they already lost all their money.

They can do bad things to the point that they will harm someone to get the money out from other people's pockets.
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May 16, 2023, 02:15:45 AM
It's really a crazy thing that still happens a lot but on the other hand does it really have to be like that where it doesn't matter if they are relatives or not but they cross that limit just to gamble.
This is really unhealthy because apart from him being a cruel person, on the other hand I'm pretty sure he can't control the gambling conditions he does which makes him all consumed by a heavy addiction.
Any addict that is addicted enough will basically do anything to obtain the thing that the person is addicted to.

There are of course different levels depending on what causes the addiction, but the brain is an interesting thing and it will create crazy plans to obtain what it is lacking.

In a way this is a powerful machinery that could be used extremely successfully when the addiction is positive, but also a horrible thing when the addiction is negative.
And addictions are mostly negative, you can barely find someone who is addicted to something good which makes it a positive addiction, but even if one has a positive addiction, if it keeps getting bigger and excessive, it can turn bad as well since we all know that excess of anything is bad even if the thing itself isn't bad but it becomes bad if done excessively.

And you are right that an addicted person would do almost anything in order to fulfill the urge of their addiction and what it wants, for gambling addicts, they do everything to get some money so that they can continue gambling.
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May 16, 2023, 01:12:09 AM
I was really upset when I read the news that the OP shared. It was upsetting to learn that a person did such a thing to a small child. However, I would like to mention this detail. If that bad guy was addicted to something else, he would still do this bad behavior. I think what needs to be discussed on the main axis here is addiction. Because that bad guy was a drug addict, he could repeat the same bad behavior. I hope everyone can control themselves. Unfortunately, if we cannot control ourselves, we may experience similar endings.
You are right that an addiction to almost anything can be dangerous for a person if it becomes excessive and it becomes more dangerous for society when that addicted person starts doing things like this which in some way harms another person and even if they don't harm anyone, they will obviously ask for money in return for not doing that.

Gambling addiction also makes people do very bad things when they spend everything that they have but their urge continues tickling them to gamble more and that is when they decide to get money from somewhere by doing anything.
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May 15, 2023, 11:56:30 PM
It does seem crazy, to end your life because of gambling. If you are already addicted to gambling it has become a dangerous tendency. not doing gambling for a second will bother them. there are many bad effects of gambling addiction, but the most fatal impact is when you decide to commit suicide because you don't have the money to do gambling. this has become an acute addiction. It takes a lot of support from the closest people so that the addiction that is already heavy does not lead to ending life or action.
Any addiction will eventually drive a person into a corner from which it may seem impossible to escape, this is why there are some people that take the most irreversible decision that a human being can take, which is to end their own lives, however there is always a solution to the problems people have created for themselves due to their gambling addiction, it is just there is no way to solve them quickly, as those which are addicted spend years or even decades in that condition and they cannot hope that everything is going to fix itself overnight.
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May 15, 2023, 03:51:47 PM
That's why I said it was a mistake if someone committed suicide because of his problem. They have to be able to get up and not give up and try to finish well and realize that it was a mistake they had made.

I have felt that pain, but I can still think that committing suicide is a wrong action and should be avoided. In addition, suicide is also prohibited in any religion. But some people cannot survive and get up after experiencing bankruptcy in gambling and eventually die of recurrent heart disease.

Indeed it is a mistake to take owns life, but coward people wanted the easy way out without thinking the people they left behind will be the one to suffer.  Not only coward but also inconsiderate and selfish.
They only think of using a shortcut to end everything. They lost even when they became addicted to gambling before finally taking their own lives, thinking that was the best they could do without ever thinking there was anything they could do. If they think long and hard about trying to change everything they do, it looks like there is still a way, but of course, it requires the support of everyone around them. Without the support of the people around them, they are alone and without any strength to get up and realize their mistakes.
Not because of cowardice or just want to take a shortcut to end his life so that their debt is paid off.
There are so many people in my city who are addicted to gambling that almost kill themselves or commit suicide because sometimes when emotions run high mixed with disappointment, it will definitely take away their common sense which results in a gambling addict committing suicide.
What I'm still thinking about is why it's so easy for people to commit suicide while having a family that is ready to support them.

It does seem crazy, to end your life because of gambling. If you are already addicted to gambling it has become a dangerous tendency. not doing gambling for a second will bother them. there are many bad effects of gambling addiction, but the most fatal impact is when you decide to commit suicide because you don't have the money to do gambling. this has become an acute addiction. It takes a lot of support from the closest people so that the addiction that is already heavy does not lead to ending life or action.
It would be that unlikely for someone whose been that addicted to gambling on which taking up some suicide decision just because they arent able to play or do such thing which it is really that impossible.Usually this kind of decision would be molded up on the time that they are really that in huge or deep debt on which they cant be able to repay and on the time that their loved ones have leaved them or they dont have the money anymore or selling off  all of their assets and belongings.On the time that they do see that there's nothing left on which they do possess then this is the time that they would really be looking  up and feeling that pity
into themselves and this is the time that they would be thinking that taking suicide would really be the best solution on this case, which it is really that absurd on having this kind of consideration on taking
up such action just because you've got nothing because of too much addiction. Every problem does have its own solution and they should really be thinking up this way.
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May 15, 2023, 03:34:15 PM
That's why I said it was a mistake if someone committed suicide because of his problem. They have to be able to get up and not give up and try to finish well and realize that it was a mistake they had made.

I have felt that pain, but I can still think that committing suicide is a wrong action and should be avoided. In addition, suicide is also prohibited in any religion. But some people cannot survive and get up after experiencing bankruptcy in gambling and eventually die of recurrent heart disease.

Indeed it is a mistake to take owns life, but coward people wanted the easy way out without thinking the people they left behind will be the one to suffer.  Not only coward but also inconsiderate and selfish.
They only think of using a shortcut to end everything. They lost even when they became addicted to gambling before finally taking their own lives, thinking that was the best they could do without ever thinking there was anything they could do. If they think long and hard about trying to change everything they do, it looks like there is still a way, but of course, it requires the support of everyone around them. Without the support of the people around them, they are alone and without any strength to get up and realize their mistakes.
Not because of cowardice or just want to take a shortcut to end his life so that their debt is paid off.
There are so many people in my city who are addicted to gambling that almost kill themselves or commit suicide because sometimes when emotions run high mixed with disappointment, it will definitely take away their common sense which results in a gambling addict committing suicide.
What I'm still thinking about is why it's so easy for people to commit suicide while having a family that is ready to support them.

It does seem crazy, to end your life because of gambling. If you are already addicted to gambling it has become a dangerous tendency. not doing gambling for a second will bother them. there are many bad effects of gambling addiction, but the most fatal impact is when you decide to commit suicide because you don't have the money to do gambling. this has become an acute addiction. It takes a lot of support from the closest people so that the addiction that is already heavy does not lead to ending life or action.
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May 15, 2023, 02:55:20 PM
That's why I said it was a mistake if someone committed suicide because of his problem. They have to be able to get up and not give up and try to finish well and realize that it was a mistake they had made.

I have felt that pain, but I can still think that committing suicide is a wrong action and should be avoided. In addition, suicide is also prohibited in any religion. But some people cannot survive and get up after experiencing bankruptcy in gambling and eventually die of recurrent heart disease.

Indeed it is a mistake to take owns life, but coward people wanted the easy way out without thinking the people they left behind will be the one to suffer.  Not only coward but also inconsiderate and selfish.
They only think of using a shortcut to end everything. They lost even when they became addicted to gambling before finally taking their own lives, thinking that was the best they could do without ever thinking there was anything they could do. If they think long and hard about trying to change everything they do, it looks like there is still a way, but of course, it requires the support of everyone around them. Without the support of the people around them, they are alone and without any strength to get up and realize their mistakes.
Not because of cowardice or just want to take a shortcut to end his life so that their debt is paid off.
There are so many people in my city who are addicted to gambling that almost kill themselves or commit suicide because sometimes when emotions run high mixed with disappointment, it will definitely take away their common sense which results in a gambling addict committing suicide.
What I'm still thinking about is why it's so easy for people to commit suicide while having a family that is ready to support them.
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May 15, 2023, 01:33:25 PM
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After all, once people enter a depressive spiral, it is difficult to get out without proper help, and problem gamblers can unfortunately make people who cares about them to slowly go away, because they way they act.

I think it depends on what the situatione. If the gambler still accept any positive input from his friends, it should be possible for him to continue his  friendship without having to stay away. But, if gamblers don't want to acppet any of input from those who care about them, of course they will stay away from it. However, if I learn from the events around me, most who are already blind with gamble, and really addicted, they actually leave leaving debts and even commit fraud against their own friends. For some reason his friends maybe trying to be careful because he don't wants become a victim from his friends that already getting gambling addicted.
Incidents like this also happened just a few houses from where I live, what's even crazier, the gambling addict ran away somewhere, causing his parents to have to pay debts of hundreds of millions of rupiah to loan sharks and several tens of millions of rupiah to his friends who had their money taken away

We all have friends or acquaintances who have an addiction to gambling, I've been wary of lending my money to gamblers, right now I'm just giving them advice, when they don't hear that, whatever happens to them in the future is not my fault and it's not my business
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May 15, 2023, 12:26:18 PM
That's why I said it was a mistake if someone committed suicide because of his problem. They have to be able to get up and not give up and try to finish well and realize that it was a mistake they had made.

I have felt that pain, but I can still think that committing suicide is a wrong action and should be avoided. In addition, suicide is also prohibited in any religion. But some people cannot survive and get up after experiencing bankruptcy in gambling and eventually die of recurrent heart disease.

Indeed it is a mistake to take owns life, but coward people wanted the easy way out without thinking the people they left behind will be the one to suffer.  Not only coward but also inconsiderate and selfish.
They only think of using a shortcut to end everything. They lost even when they became addicted to gambling before finally taking their own lives, thinking that was the best they could do without ever thinking there was anything they could do. If they think long and hard about trying to change everything they do, it looks like there is still a way, but of course, it requires the support of everyone around them. Without the support of the people around them, they are alone and without any strength to get up and realize their mistakes.
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May 15, 2023, 11:21:52 AM
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After all, once people enter a depressive spiral, it is difficult to get out without proper help, and problem gamblers can unfortunately make people who cares about them to slowly go away, because they way they act.

I think it depends on what the situatione. If the gambler still accept any positive input from his friends, it should be possible for him to continue his  friendship without having to stay away. But, if gamblers don't want to acppet any of input from those who care about them, of course they will stay away from it. However, if I learn from the events around me, most who are already blind with gamble, and really addicted, they actually leave leaving debts and even commit fraud against their own friends. For some reason his friends maybe trying to be careful because he don't wants become a victim from his friends that already getting gambling addicted.

Gambler should have act as you said but most gambling addicts do not appreciate peoples' concern and is easily agitated because they don't want to hear anything negative about their activity.  In most cases in a couple relationship, the gambler even beat their spouse when their partner started talking/nagging about his shortcomings due to gambling activity.  Instead of admitting his fault he retaliate physically or verbally just to shut up his wife.  At the end these people who shows concern to him will then avoid the confrontation and slowly drips away.

That's why I said it was a mistake if someone committed suicide because of his problem. They have to be able to get up and not give up and try to finish well and realize that it was a mistake they had made.

I have felt that pain, but I can still think that committing suicide is a wrong action and should be avoided. In addition, suicide is also prohibited in any religion. But some people cannot survive and get up after experiencing bankruptcy in gambling and eventually die of recurrent heart disease.

Indeed it is a mistake to take owns life, but coward people wanted the easy way out without thinking the people they left behind will be the one to suffer.  Not only coward but also inconsiderate and selfish.
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hmph..
May 15, 2023, 05:45:42 AM
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After all, once people enter a depressive spiral, it is difficult to get out without proper help, and problem gamblers can unfortunately make people who cares about them to slowly go away, because they way they act.

I think it depends on what the situatione. If the gambler still accept any positive input from his friends, it should be possible for him to continue his  friendship without having to stay away. But, if gamblers don't want to acppet any of input from those who care about them, of course they will stay away from it. However, if I learn from the events around me, most who are already blind with gamble, and really addicted, they actually leave leaving debts and even commit fraud against their own friends. For some reason his friends maybe trying to be careful because he don't wants become a victim from his friends that already getting gambling addicted.
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May 15, 2023, 05:15:21 AM
Those who commit suicide only think that ending their life can solve all the problems in the world. But they don't think about the fate of the family they left behind. Their family would be very sad because, after all, he was a member of the family. This is why each family member must be able to help each other if someone is having difficulties.

I agree. I know it might sound a bit harsh and maybe insensitive, but the more I think about it, the more it seems to me that suicide as a way out is only for cowards. Then again, I've never been in that kind of situation, and I hope I never will be, but I believe that no matter what life throws at us, we have to gather our strength and face it head-on. That's the only way.

We can still survive if we realize it, but unfortunately, those who commit suicide feel that everything is over, so they must end their life immediately before things get worse. The way they chose was wrong because they did not realize what impact it would have on those closest to them. I also hope to never be in such a situation. And for this reason, we must be careful in what we do in our daily lives so that we don't get into trouble and can live this life well.

Those who commit suicide because of problems with addiction, money, a broken heart, depression or whatever reason; do so in order to stop the psychological pain they feel.

I don't know if you have ever felt that kind of pain, it is similar to when someone you love passes away,.but it does not go away through time. Eventually, it makes you to do anything in order to stop it, including ending one's life.

I have never met anyone who suffered from problem gambling and killed themselves, but I do not doubt it is something that happens very often, unfortunately...
Psychological pain is the major reason, and it isn't easy to overcome for various reasons. The prime reason being the massive loss that had taken place all of the sudden. Maybe with the lost amount we could've fulfilled big needs of us or it is the fund that is kept for important need. Once again it looks hard to arrange funds, something like kept aside for education or medical bills.

Myself too haven't met any of the person suffering with gambling addiction, because in some form myself is a a gambling addict who had come out of it slowly.

When a person finds himself financially broken he thinks of ending his life, because yesterday he had good money and he feels empty all of the sudden. With this he finds it hard to move forward with positive mind.

The fact that some of them continue to gamble in hopes to make the psychological pain to stop or become weaker, it only makes things worse, we all know how it usually ends up.

I feel empathy for you, since you are not ashamed of calling yourself a gambling addict and I am happy you have decided to take control back and slowly overcome those impulses, it is the right call. After all, once people enter a depressive spiral, it is difficult to get out without proper help, and problem gamblers can unfortunately make people who cares about them to slowly go away, because they way they act.
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May 14, 2023, 06:52:25 PM
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But in this case he doesn't seem human because it's part of his own family but he's willing to do that just for fun.

Even though in this case gambling is something that cannot be let go but of course as humans we also have to have a conscience so that we are still considered human beings but things like that really make me boil just by reading it.

When a person is completely addicted their brain behaves in a way that might look very differently than a person who is not addicted.

The choices those addicts make are far away from what a non-addict would choose.

It's a bad place to be, but everyone has the potential to be there, so everyone needs to be careful with their daily choices.

It has been shown in studies that lots of people that are basically normal, would end up killing someone (it was a faked death in the experiment of course) by following orders of a superior.

People kinda just acted because they followed orders from others. In a similar way, the addict will simply follow the orders of their thoughts.
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May 14, 2023, 06:28:28 PM
Those who commit suicide only think that ending their life can solve all the problems in the world. But they don't think about the fate of the family they left behind. Their family would be very sad because, after all, he was a member of the family. This is why each family member must be able to help each other if someone is having difficulties.

I agree. I know it might sound a bit harsh and maybe insensitive, but the more I think about it, the more it seems to me that suicide as a way out is only for cowards. Then again, I've never been in that kind of situation, and I hope I never will be, but I believe that no matter what life throws at us, we have to gather our strength and face it head-on. That's the only way.

We can still survive if we realize it, but unfortunately, those who commit suicide feel that everything is over, so they must end their life immediately before things get worse. The way they chose was wrong because they did not realize what impact it would have on those closest to them. I also hope to never be in such a situation. And for this reason, we must be careful in what we do in our daily lives so that we don't get into trouble and can live this life well.

Those who commit suicide because of problems with addiction, money, a broken heart, depression or whatever reason; do so in order to stop the psychological pain they feel.

I don't know if you have ever felt that kind of pain, it is similar to when someone you love passes away,.but it does not go away through time. Eventually, it makes you to do anything in order to stop it, including ending one's life.

I have never met anyone who suffered from problem gambling and killed themselves, but I do not doubt it is something that happens very often, unfortunately...
Psychological pain is the major reason, and it isn't easy to overcome for various reasons. The prime reason being the massive loss that had taken place all of the sudden. Maybe with the lost amount we could've fulfilled big needs of us or it is the fund that is kept for important need. Once again it looks hard to arrange funds, something like kept aside for education or medical bills.

Myself too haven't met any of the person suffering with gambling addiction, because in some form myself is a a gambling addict who had come out of it slowly.

When a person finds himself financially broken he thinks of ending his life, because yesterday he had good money and he feels empty all of the sudden. With this he finds it hard to move forward with positive mind.
STT
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May 14, 2023, 06:04:14 PM
Most modern countries have bankruptcy laws for medical debt, for credit cards and even gambling debts.  Theres no benefit or reason to lose a life over what is just paper promissory notes, simple cash is not enough reason.  The debts can be written off and a person can always be useful enough to make their way through life even without being allowed a working bank account from the bankruptcy or whatever other negatives its not the great burden it would have been at one time.
  Plenty will have sympathy for anyone who made mistakes and especially would favor the debtor in this case where its a gambling game, never take that option as it is taking the game far too seriously and its never worth that imo
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May 14, 2023, 03:58:58 PM
It's really a crazy thing that still happens a lot but on the other hand does it really have to be like that where it doesn't matter if they are relatives or not but they cross that limit just to gamble.
This is really unhealthy because apart from him being a cruel person, on the other hand I'm pretty sure he can't control the gambling conditions he does which makes him all consumed by a heavy addiction.

Any addict that is addicted enough will basically do anything to obtain the thing that the person is addicted to.

There are of course different levels depending on what causes the addiction, but the brain is an interesting thing and it will create crazy plans to obtain what it is lacking.

In a way this is a powerful machinery that could be used extremely successfully when the addiction is positive, but also a horrible thing when the addiction is negative.
But in this case he doesn't seem human because it's part of his own family but he's willing to do that just for fun.

Even though in this case gambling is something that cannot be let go but of course as humans we also have to have a conscience so that we are still considered human beings but things like that really make me boil just by reading it.
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There are three licensing objectives which support the whole basis of gambling regulation:

- that crime should be kept out of gambling
- it should be conducted in a fair and open way
- children and other vulnerable persons should be protected from harm or exploitation from gambling.

There are always going to be very bad people, who take their addiction linked crimes to the extremes because their mind has gone beyond warped. However the approach of the UK gambling commission is really sensible and a base set of rules that could lay the groundwork for laws in most countries. Crime can be huge in casino's as they are cash based and have historically been used in vast money laundering operations - even up to recent times like the scandal that hit the biggest Australia casino's recently.
do you mean this scandal = https://www.casino.org/news/casino-operator-crown-resorts-hit-with-another-fine-in-victoria-australia/

some officials use casinos as a place for laundering their money and this has happened in almost all countries in the world, and many people have been harmed so that the handling of gambling addicts does not work effectively

perpetrators of money laundering, child exploitation and robbery in gambling must receive severe punishment there is no reason to accept them in society
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