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Those who commit suicide only think that ending their life can solve all the problems in the world. But they don't think about the fate of the family they left behind. Their family would be very sad because, after all, he was a member of the family. This is why each family member must be able to help each other if someone is having difficulties.

I agree. I know it might sound a bit harsh and maybe insensitive, but the more I think about it, the more it seems to me that suicide as a way out is only for cowards. Then again, I've never been in that kind of situation, and I hope I never will be, but I believe that no matter what life throws at us, we have to gather our strength and face it head-on. That's the only way.

We can still survive if we realize it, but unfortunately, those who commit suicide feel that everything is over, so they must end their life immediately before things get worse. The way they chose was wrong because they did not realize what impact it would have on those closest to them. I also hope to never be in such a situation. And for this reason, we must be careful in what we do in our daily lives so that we don't get into trouble and can live this life well.

Those who commit suicide because of problems with addiction, money, a broken heart, depression or whatever reason; do so in order to stop the psychological pain they feel.

I don't know if you have ever felt that kind of pain, it is similar to when someone you love passes away,.but it does not go away through time. Eventually, it makes you to do anything in order to stop it, including ending one's life.

I have never met anyone who suffered from problem gambling and killed themselves, but I do not doubt it is something that happens very often, unfortunately...

That's why I said it was a mistake if someone committed suicide because of his problem. They have to be able to get up and not give up and try to finish well and realize that it was a mistake they had made.

I have felt that pain, but I can still think that committing suicide is a wrong action and should be avoided. In addition, suicide is also prohibited in any religion. But some people cannot survive and get up after experiencing bankruptcy in gambling and eventually die of recurrent heart disease.

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There are three licensing objectives which support the whole basis of gambling regulation:

- that crime should be kept out of gambling
- it should be conducted in a fair and open way
- children and other vulnerable persons should be protected from harm or exploitation from gambling.

There are always going to be very bad people, who take their addiction linked crimes to the extremes because their mind has gone beyond warped. However the approach of the UK gambling commission is really sensible and a base set of rules that could lay the groundwork for laws in most countries. Crime can be huge in casino's as they are cash based and have historically been used in vast money laundering operations - even up to recent times like the scandal that hit the biggest Australia casino's recently.

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Those who commit suicide only think that ending their life can solve all the problems in the world. But they don't think about the fate of the family they left behind. Their family would be very sad because, after all, he was a member of the family. This is why each family member must be able to help each other if someone is having difficulties.

I agree. I know it might sound a bit harsh and maybe insensitive, but the more I think about it, the more it seems to me that suicide as a way out is only for cowards. Then again, I've never been in that kind of situation, and I hope I never will be, but I believe that no matter what life throws at us, we have to gather our strength and face it head-on. That's the only way.

We can still survive if we realize it, but unfortunately, those who commit suicide feel that everything is over, so they must end their life immediately before things get worse. The way they chose was wrong because they did not realize what impact it would have on those closest to them. I also hope to never be in such a situation. And for this reason, we must be careful in what we do in our daily lives so that we don't get into trouble and can live this life well.

Those who commit suicide because of problems with addiction, money, a broken heart, depression or whatever reason; do so in order to stop the psychological pain they feel.

I don't know if you have ever felt that kind of pain, it is similar to when someone you love passes away,.but it does not go away through time. Eventually, it makes you to do anything in order to stop it, including ending one's life.

I have never met anyone who suffered from problem gambling and killed themselves, but I do not doubt it is something that happens very often, unfortunately...

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It's really a crazy thing that still happens a lot but on the other hand does it really have to be like that where it doesn't matter if they are relatives or not but they cross that limit just to gamble.
This is really unhealthy because apart from him being a cruel person, on the other hand I'm pretty sure he can't control the gambling conditions he does which makes him all consumed by a heavy addiction.

Any addict that is addicted enough will basically do anything to obtain the thing that the person is addicted to.

There are of course different levels depending on what causes the addiction, but the brain is an interesting thing and it will create crazy plans to obtain what it is lacking.

In a way this is a powerful machinery that could be used extremely successfully when the addiction is positive, but also a horrible thing when the addiction is negative.

They are already controlled by addiction itself, so they will do anything to fulfill what they want, including crime, as long as they get money to gamble. This becomes a lesson for us as gamblers to always be able to control ourselves and always play with a clear brain so that we will not be carried away by emotions that will make us lose everything, including the people we love.
It is difficult to stop someone who is already an addict, some even say someone who is already an addict must be rehabilitated to slowly eliminate his addiction, the same is true with gambling, because this is not something to be taken lightly.

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Those who commit suicide only think that ending their life can solve all the problems in the world. But they don't think about the fate of the family they left behind. Their family would be very sad because, after all, he was a member of the family. This is why each family member must be able to help each other if someone is having difficulties.

I agree. I know it might sound a bit harsh and maybe insensitive, but the more I think about it, the more it seems to me that suicide as a way out is only for cowards. Then again, I've never been in that kind of situation, and I hope I never will be, but I believe that no matter what life throws at us, we have to gather our strength and face it head-on. That's the only way.

We can still survive if we realize it, but unfortunately, those who commit suicide feel that everything is over, so they must end their life immediately before things get worse. The way they chose was wrong because they did not realize what impact it would have on those closest to them. I also hope to never be in such a situation. And for this reason, we must be careful in what we do in our daily lives so that we don't get into trouble and can live this life well.

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Quote from: flipme on May 13, 2023, 01:22:05 PM

I was really upset when I read the news that the OP shared. It was upsetting to learn that a person did such a thing to a small child. However, I would like to mention this detail. If that bad guy was addicted to something else, he would still do this bad behavior. I think what needs to be discussed on the main axis here is addiction. Because that bad guy was a drug addict, he could repeat the same bad behavior. I hope everyone can control themselves. Unfortunately, if we cannot control ourselves, we may experience similar endings.

Not only gambling but anything about money in the world if don't have control over how to manage it, it should be lost for sure. Drugs and Gambling are always connected to each other. Sometimes a person doesn't have the confidence to bet high money before drugs consume and it's repeated many times before losing all his capital. So, If a person has a problem with drugs, he must be got therapy on how to stay away from gambling, or If he likes everything (gambling and drugs) just select one, and don't ever do it together.

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Quote from: alpamar99 on May 13, 2023, 06:39:51 PM

It's really a crazy thing that still happens a lot but on the other hand does it really have to be like that where it doesn't matter if they are relatives or not but they cross that limit just to gamble.
This is really unhealthy because apart from him being a cruel person, on the other hand I'm pretty sure he can't control the gambling conditions he does which makes him all consumed by a heavy addiction.

Any addict that is addicted enough will basically do anything to obtain the thing that the person is addicted to.

There are of course different levels depending on what causes the addiction, but the brain is an interesting thing and it will create crazy plans to obtain what it is lacking.

In a way this is a powerful machinery that could be used extremely successfully when the addiction is positive, but also a horrible thing when the addiction is negative.

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A heartbreaking incident (suicide) committed by a gambling addict occurred again in one of the cities in my country. I am surprised by people who are determined to commit suicide because of debt, after all debt is something that can be solved, message for suicides - why should you end your life and leave your wife and children without clarity, doesn't that only make them suffer more and the future of the children becomes uncertain!

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Alexander Leo Gunawan (33), head of the Expeditionary Office of the Tanah Sereal branch of JNT, Tambora, West Jakarta, was found hanging himself on the third floor of his office. Before ending his life on May 10 2023, the resident of Jalan Gunung Sahari VIII No.22 RT 015/004, Sawah Besar, Central Jakarta, had called his wife and conveyed his intention to kill himself and ordered him to look after his children.

SOURCE -- JNT Boss Suicide due to Debt and Online Gambling

People who commit suicide after piling up huge problems due to their actions are cowards. They can't take responsibility for their errors and leave their family with the problem created themselves. I feel sorry for the family that was left with a huge amount of debt by the person who committed suicide.

This person probably felt the feeling of helplessness plus the pressure put by the debt and his family. This is one reason why families should be supportive of one another in order to prevent this kind of incident. Gambling addiction may give us problems but I believe suicide is not the answer to the problem but the escape to take responsibility for the problem. Thus they can be called cowards.

This is common thinking that strikes human minds. It all happens all of the sudden and if he overcomes that few seconds surely he won't think of it. Even myself have thought of suicide and all. This happened when I've lost big and I don't have any source to compensate the loss. Again I've got good sum of debt. That was the first big loss and by the time it happens. I had fear in mind, because the money I lost is saved to settle my debts and apologized with my girl for what I've done. She stood supportive that we can manage. That is where a family or close support is needed.

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Quote from: Renampun on May 12, 2023, 05:53:54 AM

A heartbreaking incident (suicide) committed by a gambling addict occurred again in one of the cities in my country. I am surprised by people who are determined to commit suicide because of debt, after all debt is something that can be solved, message for suicides - why should you end your life and leave your wife and children without clarity, doesn't that only make them suffer more and the future of the children becomes uncertain!

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Alexander Leo Gunawan (33), head of the Expeditionary Office of the Tanah Sereal branch of JNT, Tambora, West Jakarta, was found hanging himself on the third floor of his office. Before ending his life on May 10 2023, the resident of Jalan Gunung Sahari VIII No.22 RT 015/004, Sawah Besar, Central Jakarta, had called his wife and conveyed his intention to kill himself and ordered him to look after his children.

SOURCE -- JNT Boss Suicide due to Debt and Online Gambling

People who commit suicide after piling up huge problems due to their actions are cowards. They can't take responsibility for their errors and leave their family with the problem created themselves. I feel sorry for the family that was left with a huge amount of debt by the person who committed suicide.

This person probably felt the feeling of helplessness plus the pressure put by the debt and his family. This is one reason why families should be supportive of one another in order to prevent this kind of incident. Gambling addiction may give us problems but I believe suicide is not the answer to the problem but the escape to take responsibility for the problem. Thus they can be called cowards.

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It's really a crazy thing that still happens a lot but on the other hand does it really have to be like that where it doesn't matter if they are relatives or not but they cross that limit just to gamble.
This is really unhealthy because apart from him being a cruel person, on the other hand I'm pretty sure he can't control the gambling conditions he does which makes him all consumed by a heavy addiction.

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in a nutshell: it will be one more thing that will create more gambling addicts, in short it's not the fault of the casino, it's the fault of people who don't have self control when they use the casinos. once in my country they made statistics on how many car accidents happened involving people who had drunk alcohol and then driven a car, but the result was frightening, more than 99% of car accidents in my country are the fault of people who consume alcoholic beverages and then they drive a car, but then people started to protest to close the alcoholic beverage factories, but then they remembered that this would make many people out of jobs and businesses, so the solution was to do civic education in people and get police to control the streets roads and cars

in the case of casinos, it would be good if they put some kind of notice like: play responsibly. although any gambling addict will ignore this message, and will continue selling goods, stealing, lying and borrowing to continue gambling addiction, I suggest that if you are a casino representative add articles for gambling addiction prevention of chance and put it in the casino, don't just think about the profits, also think about the emotional side of your customers

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Maybe by isolating a place or island away from normal people to create a rehabilitation place where there is no internet connection or other gambling related games, but still facilitated as if living in one's own city only eliminates gambling activities or chronic bad habits.
and also doctors and psychologists and other related people to help with healing, and most importantly religious experts in accordance with their respective beliefs so that chronic addicts are closer to their creators and also social activities or full-time positive activities so that they can forget and gradually eliminate addiction, or negative things that are in him can disappear by itself back to the family with drastic changes.

maybe you could say this is therapy with HYPNOTHERAPY techniques.

Imagine an isolated island where nobody knows you're there. It's a location to leave your vices before embarking on a voyage of self-discovery and healing, therefore let's call it "Recovery Island." Without casinos or the internet, you'll feel completely refreshed. Imagine strolling along beautiful coasts with a team of caring experts, including doctors, psychiatrists, and spiritual leaders, all working together to assure your success. Isn't it amazing? We'll investigate your inner world and cut the detrimental chains holding you back via hypnosis. It's like rewiring your brain to be more positive. Until your addiction is gone, we'll inject it with collaboration, camaraderie, and constructive activities.

When the moment is right, you will emerge from your metamorphic cocoon ready to fly back to your loved ones. When they see what you've become, I can only image their shock.

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I was really upset when I read the news that the OP shared. It was upsetting to learn that a person did such a thing to a small child. However, I would like to mention this detail. If that bad guy was addicted to something else, he would still do this bad behavior. I think what needs to be discussed on the main axis here is addiction. Because that bad guy was a drug addict, he could repeat the same bad behavior. I hope everyone can control themselves. Unfortunately, if we cannot control ourselves, we may experience similar endings.

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Those who commit suicide only think that ending their life can solve all the problems in the world. But they don't think about the fate of the family they left behind. Their family would be very sad because, after all, he was a member of the family. This is why each family member must be able to help each other if someone is having difficulties.

I agree. I know it might sound a bit harsh and maybe insensitive, but the more I think about it, the more it seems to me that suicide as a way out is only for cowards. Then again, I've never been in that kind of situation, and I hope I never will be, but I believe that no matter what life throws at us, we have to gather our strength and face it head-on. That's the only way.

It is the most stupid decision, suicide is not a solution, and I agree that people who do that are really cowards, and sometimes even though they have a family, a gambling addict they are always not concerned about their families because they are considered to always charge and spend money.

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Those who cannot get out of gambling addiction, think that they have no other option but death. They can't stop gambling, so at first they adopt different strategies to manage their gambling money. In my country, unable to manage gambling money, gambling addicts abuse their wives. Gamblers torture their wives and demand dowry money and if they are unable to manage that money, they resort to inhumane torture with various tactics. Moreover, another problem is that many wives have even given their husbands divorce for not being able to manage the gambling money for Bangladesh and for not running the family properly. Then you definitely understand how big a crime it is to be addicted to gambling in our country.

That pattern that is very common in those gambling addicts who already have wives, they always force their wives to ask for money or items that can be sold and then used for gambling by force, bad things to persecute his wife or even more terrible sell his wife.

I think people who cannot get out of gambling addictive and killing themselves are rather difficult to digest to me, but the addict has a debt everywhere as a result of not being able to manage gambling, is a logical reason for me the addict committed suicide.

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Those who cannot get out of gambling addiction, think that they have no other option but death. They can't stop gambling, so at first they adopt different strategies to manage their gambling money. In my country, unable to manage gambling money, gambling addicts abuse their wives. Gamblers torture their wives and demand dowry money and if they are unable to manage that money, they resort to inhumane torture with various tactics. Moreover, another problem is that many wives have even given their husbands divorce for not being able to manage the gambling money for Bangladesh and for not running the family properly. Then you definitely understand how big a crime it is to be addicted to gambling in our country.

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Quote from: maydna on May 13, 2023, 04:45:42 AM

Those who commit suicide only think that ending their life can solve all the problems in the world. But they don't think about the fate of the family they left behind. Their family would be very sad because, after all, he was a member of the family. This is why each family member must be able to help each other if someone is having difficulties.

I agree. I know it might sound a bit harsh and maybe insensitive, but the more I think about it, the more it seems to me that suicide as a way out is only for cowards. Then again, I've never been in that kind of situation, and I hope I never will be, but I believe that no matter what life throws at us, we have to gather our strength and face it head-on. That's the only way.

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A heartbreaking incident (suicide) committed by a gambling addict occurred again in one of the cities in my country. I am surprised by people who are determined to commit suicide because of debt, after all debt is something that can be solved, message for suicides - why should you end your life and leave your wife and children without clarity, doesn't that only make them suffer more and the future of the children becomes uncertain!

If someone commits suicide due to gambling, that person likely thinks they are done with everything. And if he has debts and can't pay them, he might choose suicide to end everything. But he forgot how his family could carry on without him.

It must have been hard on his family, being abandoned by the people they loved so much. And it's all because of debt and gambling. When someone is already in debt and is only used for gambling, that is a fatal mistake because it does not guarantee he can get a win but he can get a loss. And if he lost, how could he repay his debts?

my condolences to the family left behind by the person who killed himself

My friend's sister once committed suicide because she had a broken heart, as a result of this her mother became stressed and finally had a stroke and until now she is still half-paralyzed

the mind of a suicidal person is too short, debts can be paid, and gambling addiction can be cured but family integrity is difficult to restore if we lose a family member

Condolences to your friend's family. Hopefully, their family can be strong and survive and rise from this sadness.

Those who commit suicide only think that ending their life can solve all the problems in the world. But they don't think about the fate of the family they left behind. Their family would be very sad because, after all, he was a member of the family. This is why each family member must be able to help each other if someone is having difficulties.

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Quote from: Mr. Magkaisa on May 12, 2023, 07:31:41 AM

- That's really bad, just because of the addiction to gambling and just to relieve it, even one's own grandson will be used just for money.
This is just one of the bad effects of gambling addiction.

So it's really important that you have self-control so that you don't end up like this. This is shameful and it is not normal for someone to do this. It's actually a psychological problem. It's sad when old people are still like that.

That is why addiction is supposed to be avoided by all means. Once you are addicted to something, that very thing becomes more important to you even more than your own family and friends. It is just like someone being intoxicated and will be doing things out of their consciousness.
The war against gambling addiction should be intensified and that is the reason why some countries ban gambling in total because of the adverse negative effects that may be out of control.

Yes, it's really an unfortunate incident because out of all the people, it's the grandfather who took his own grand daughter to blackmail his own family. Every addict knows this feeling and some are even selling almost everything inside their house, some even resort to breaking other house just to feed their minds to continue from gambling, they just don't know what they're doing because it's already on their system which prevents them to weigh things from right or wrong.

I agree with that, I know that casinos and other gambling platforms are good for the nation's economy because the millions worth of tax will be helpful to build infrastructures and other things needed but if the nation is already booming already, it's time to ban these kind of activities because the consequences are not really worth it. Take for example South Korea, they have their own casinos but only the tourists can use it and not their own citizens as it's viewed as unlawful act and doing such will result into a jailtime.

The balance should be the priority here, if you are seeing that the bad after-effect are really huge then it's time to act though for corrupt government who only see the benefits and not the side effect of this business, we can't do anything as they will have their own reasoning to protect the so-called economy which really been booming because of those gambling business around.

The madness inside a gambler's mind is unreachable once they already engage to these activity, the limitations can't be ranged for sure.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on May 12, 2023, 06:59:25 PM

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Quote from: Mr. Magkaisa on May 12, 2023, 07:31:41 AM

- That's really bad, just because of the addiction to gambling and just to relieve it, even one's own grandson will be used just for money.
This is just one of the bad effects of gambling addiction.

So it's really important that you have self-control so that you don't end up like this. This is shameful and it is not normal for someone to do this. It's actually a psychological problem. It's sad when old people are still like that.

That is why addiction is supposed to be avoided by all means. Once you are addicted to something, that very thing becomes more important to you even more than your own family and friends. It is just like someone being intoxicated and will be doing things out of their consciousness.
The war against gambling addiction should be intensified and that is the reason why some countries ban gambling in total because of the adverse negative effects that may be out of control.

We all say that gambling addiction is bad and it should be avoided at all costs but we do not provide the solution as how it can be done ?

Also, do we have institutions or centers where we can take an addicted gambler for a medical cure? Just like any other sickness, we need to consult the doctor, gamblers too need to consult psychologists or doctors who can help them overcome gambling addiction. It is impossible for any gambler who is already addicted to gambling to become non-addicted on his own.

Maybe by isolating a place or island away from normal people to create a rehabilitation place where there is no internet connection or other gambling related games, but still facilitated as if living in one's own city only eliminates gambling activities or chronic bad habits.
and also doctors and psychologists and other related people to help with healing, and most importantly religious experts in accordance with their respective beliefs so that chronic addicts are closer to their creators and also social activities or full-time positive activities so that they can forget and gradually eliminate addiction, or negative things that are in him can disappear by itself back to the family with drastic changes.

maybe you could say this is therapy with HYPNOTHERAPY techniques.

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