The madness of gambling addicts. - page 110.

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Quote from: FUCKBSVFUCK on April 30, 2023, 02:46:36 PM

I don't know what you mean by gambling responsibly. It's a form of entertainment, you can't get a
casino in a casino without a license. The government is trying to make it legal
properly, but they won't do it. There's no way to win a lottery, and that's
impossible.

It is simple, gambling responsibly means do your gambling activity in moderation. Meaning a player needs to take a break, gamble what he can afford to lose, give limit to his gambling expenditures, think that gambling as means of entertainment and not as source of income. In short, applying self discipline while engaging in gambling activity. If you wanted to read more about explanation on responsible gambling, you can read these articles[1][2]

Quote from: Exercising control and informed choice to ensure that gambling is kept within affordable limits of money and time, is enjoyable, in balance with other activities and responsibilities, and avoids gambling-related harm.

Exercising control and informed choice to ensure that gambling is kept within affordable limits of money and time, is enjoyable, in balance with other activities and responsibilities, and avoids gambling-related harm.

The article[2] suggest these method in achieving responsible gambling:

Ways of achieving this include:

ensuring gambling is affordable by not gambling with money needed for necessities (such as bills or food)
ensuring gambling doesn’t dominate your leisure time, and you are engaging in other social and leisure activities
avoiding borrowing money or using a credit card to gamble
avoiding gambling when under the influence of drugs and/or alcohol, or as a way to manage emotions when you are bored, depressed or anxious
setting limits around how much and long you with gamble for, setting a limit on your maximum bet size, and avoiding increasing bets when winning or losing.

Additional tips for people gambling online include:

setting limits on how much you can gamble by only using websites with a daily limit spend
avoiding having multiple online gambling accounts.

If only people who loves to engage in gambling activity are keen to follow these guidelines, this madness of being a gambling addicts can be avoided.

[1] https://www.unlv.edu/news/article/what-responsible-gambling-interview-jennifer-shatley
[2] https://theconversation.com/were-told-to-gamble-responsibly-but-what-does-that-actually-mean-130949

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Quote from: lizarder on April 27, 2023, 09:19:02 AM

The problem is how you put gambling, if done only for fun in spare time is not a problem. But when gambling is done as a substitute for permanent work, this will be far more problematic and it is very difficult to control, the decision is in each of us and as much as possible avoid addiction in gambling.

Indeed, my friend. It all depends on how you interpret your gambling experiences. If you view them as something you do every day, you'll inevitably become dependent on them. Although what @lizarder said is the right course of action, if you gamble regularly, you run the risk of becoming addicted. Which, in my opinion, will result in a variety of outcomes because no one can control it any longer, especially for some young people who have no other employment options.Since they have nothing else to do besides spend what little money they have on gambling, I think that some people must be addicted to it. Once their money runs out, they may then engage in dishonest activities like scamming, robbing people of their property, or selling their own possessions.

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I don't know what you mean by gambling responsibly. It's a form of entertainment, you can't get a
casino in a casino without a license. The government is trying to make it legal
properly, but they won't do it. There's no way to win a lottery, and that's
impossible.

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Quote from: macson on April 27, 2023, 09:01:15 AM

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many gambling addicts have lost their minds because their desire to continue gambling overpowers their common sense, hence the importance of "gambling responsibly"
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That's why it's called addiction and should be taken seriously. For many people it's not something you can shake off but as addictive as drugs. If you could add possibility of financial gains to drugs, that instantly becomes more addictive as well. There's really no common sense in addictions in general and addicted people are acting very much against their best judgement because they don't get that same kind of dopamine rush from anywhere else.

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Quote from: Docnaster on April 29, 2023, 10:14:56 AM

Quote from: passwordnow on April 29, 2023, 08:42:28 AM

These were really crazy thinking and one of the worst effects of gambling addiction. But don't think that it's just with a gambling addiction but also with other types of addictions where the vice is requiring money. I don't get it that these people even think and try to harm their own relatives just because they're too severe with the situation that they're in as they want to gamble. He's an old man and sad to see that he's come to an end in his old age like this.

You are right, factors causes addictions.
Let us not talk about the extreme mile of an addict, So many things in life contributes to the WHY behind every addiction. Before an addict crosses batteries like stealing just to satisfy his or her desires, breaking up in a relationship order than elude the act, and so many detrimental decisions, there is something merchandising the whole heart. The first and most important thing I will mention is depression.
A lot of people are depressed in different ways which one wouldn't know if not told. The hunt for money has frustrated so many life such that they have no hope than gambling and this is the first cause of addiction before the effect of addictions.

And this is the next level of addiction. A lot of factors, personal and nonpersonal can make someone this crazy. It's truly a madness and effect of those factors that one can do.
A depressed person wouldn't do this and wouldn't harm anyone and will just think of his own welfare. But this is another different situation he thinks that taking money from his very own relative and blood will make suffice it.
Well, it's very clear that doing such should never be tolerated, and if someone is feeling to do something crazy because of gambling, think of it many times.

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Quote from: crwth on April 28, 2023, 02:39:16 AM

That kind of mindset is going to be harmful to anyone and make sure that he will continue with what he wants. He is only thinking of himself, and no matter what he does, it's only rooted in one thing: gambling. It's essential to control yourself and not attach yourself to it so you wouldn't think of despicable ways to continue it. That is mad.

True. Not only to the people around the addicted person but also to the addicted person. If the addicted gambler can't surrender their own self then the people around them must volunteer. Addicted people are only thinking about their selves because if they care about the people around them, they will be careful about their activities. They will know how to set a limit.

The story shared by the OP is kinda crazy because the guy kidnapped his own daughter but maybe this guy knows that his family or the side of his wife is rich and they love his daughter so much so they will do anything in order to save him and he thinks this is safer to do because he can still be spared later on.

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Quote from: macson on April 27, 2023, 09:01:15 AM

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A Shanghai man was sentenced to prison for kidnapping his own granddaughter so he could maintain his gambling addiction with the ransom money.

The kidnapping — orchestrated by a 65-year-old man identified only by his surname, Yuan — was first reported by the Shanghai Law and Rule Journal. The legal news outlet didn't specify when the incident occurred but wrote on April 18 that Yuan had just started serving his prison sentence.

Yuan kicked off his plan by picking up his four-year-old granddaughter from her kindergarten and taking her out to eat and shop without her mother's knowledge, the Journal reported.

[1] https://www.insider.com/shanghai-man-kidnapped-his-own-granddaughter-for-72000-report-2023-4
[2] https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/grandpa-in-china-kidnaps-own-granddaughter-demands-ransom-so-he-can-continue-gambling

many gambling addicts have lost their minds because their desire to continue gambling overpowers their common sense, hence the importance of "gambling responsibly"

As you have said, those who are really addicted cannot control their emotions and their decisions are mostly clouded. What their brain tells them is that they could need money and they need to get it and continue to play. It doesn't matter if they going to steal from someone or thru their families, or borrow money and then not paid, or put things that is very important to them as collateral to Loan sharks despite the risk of it.

And in this case, the man thinks that he can get a huge money from kidnapping his own granddaughter and get a ransom from her and through his own family. As if his reasoning is justify and he thinks this is the correct decision. It's good that he is caught sent to prison, otherwise it could be worst for this old man. For sure he felt sorry by doing it, but it's too late already.

Pointing fingers at addicts? Easy peasy. But it's wrong, big league. Addiction – a disease, not a choice. Needs kindness, comprehension, healing. Punishment? Nada. Boosts stigma, guilt. Ignores the real issues.

The grandkid-napping grandpa? Tragic. Addiction drives folks to extremes. But it's not about weak morals or failure. It's biology, mental stuff, environment – a crazy cocktail. Demands a multi-pronged approach.

Skip the jail time, punishment. Offer help, backup. Dig deep into addiction's roots, mental health access, and forge connections. That's the ticket, folks!

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Quote from: macson on April 27, 2023, 09:01:15 AM

many gambling addicts have lost their minds because their desire to continue gambling overpowers their common sense, hence the importance of "gambling responsibly"

And that guy forgotten the golden rule of gambling responsibly. He's looking for a trouble and he did got carried away with what he's done.

Quote from: Sanitough on April 29, 2023, 11:05:58 AM

This is the reason why people should never be encouraged to enter gambling especially if they have issues in controlling their urge and emotions, otherwise they will gamble to the extent of harming others. Though gambling is not bad for those who can manage their gambling losses and just leave the house easily, but for those who sees gambling as a consistent source of profits, once they lose huge amount, they will find it hard to recover their emotions that may lead them to do things that are obviously not right.

True, people think that gambling has already given that negative thought that it will always just destroy people's lives. No matter what you do as long as you're gambling, there's no way that it will give you that good impression.

And that's those non gamblers think about it and that's not gonna change because of these situations if they ask what's the root cause of these incidents.

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Quote from: letteredhub on April 30, 2023, 11:05:10 AM

This maniac act can't be justified to be cause by an involvement of the man as a gambler. Gambling is supposed to be a game of fun and not some activity to be used as excuse to perpetrate or orchestrate an unlawful act and out it on gambling with the phrase "gambling addict". How addictive can one be to the length of kidnapping your own granddaughter just to continually gamble.

usually gambling addicts start with big wins several times but lose their winnings again after that they feel disappointed and then chase the win again until all the money in their savings is used up and from that incident the gambler briefly increases the hormone dopamine in the brain along with uncontrollable emotions. controlled and eventually became a gambling addict.
almost some people become addicts usually because of the several factors that I mentioned and if after becoming a gambling addict they will find it difficult to stop, they are always worried if they don't do gambling activities.

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Quote from: macson on April 27, 2023, 09:01:15 AM

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A Shanghai man was sentenced to prison for kidnapping his own granddaughter so he could maintain his gambling addiction with the ransom money.

The kidnapping — orchestrated by a 65-year-old man identified only by his surname, Yuan — was first reported by the Shanghai Law and Rule Journal. The legal news outlet didn't specify when the incident occurred but wrote on April 18 that Yuan had just started serving his prison sentence.

Yuan kicked off his plan by picking up his four-year-old granddaughter from her kindergarten and taking her out to eat and shop without her mother's knowledge, the Journal reported.

[1] https://www.insider.com/shanghai-man-kidnapped-his-own-granddaughter-for-72000-report-2023-4
[2] https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/grandpa-in-china-kidnaps-own-granddaughter-demands-ransom-so-he-can-continue-gambling

many gambling addicts have lost their minds because their desire to continue gambling overpowers their common sense, hence the importance of "gambling responsibly"

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There are three licensing objectives which support the whole basis of gambling regulation:

- that crime should be kept out of gambling
- it should be conducted in a fair and open way
- children and other vulnerable persons should be protected from harm or exploitation from gambling.

[1] https://www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk/licensees-and-businesses/guide/social-responsibility

This maniac act can't be justified to be cause by an involvement of the man as a gambler. Gambling is supposed to be a game of fun and not some activity to be used as excuse to perpetrate or orchestrate an unlawful act and out it on gambling with the phrase "gambling addict". How addictive can one be to the length of kidnapping your own granddaughter just to continually gamble.

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Quote from: QueenVera on April 29, 2023, 11:17:52 PM

This story keeps amazing me and most times, I wonder the length gambling addicts have to go just to meet their guest to gamble more and I think at every slightest chance we find an addicted fellow, attention should be called for such person as it is not always easy to fight addiction.

I've seen worst cases where one had to sell all of their family landed properties just to be able to raise some money for gambling and I've also seen one funny case where a young boy used the documents of his father's house as collateral fir getting a loan just fir the purpose of gambling and i still wonder how people get to this stages.

- It's too much and it's not right when it leads to such a situation, it's not a normal person to do that, the person who is addicted has a psychological problem behavior when they do that.

The addicted gambler does not know what he is doing when he is going to do such a scenario, and it is scary as if it is no different from a drug addict, their only thought is to relieve their passion for gambling.

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First of all we have to know what the word addiction is all about this is being committed to something uncontrollably, it tends to making wrong decisions irrespective of the outcome, in the case of gambling is advisable for an individual not to get to the stage where by they can't control their habits again. Gambling is an addictive habit that is capable of reconfiguring an individual reasoning that's where you see a person doing everything possible to satisfy his or her gambling urge, so that's what actually played out in the case of this man, thais why a study should be put up in other to educate the public on the needs for minimal gambling in other to avoid it's addiction.

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I've seen and read about cases of people who are addicted to gambling who go crazy, because they lose at the gambling table so that the person's eyes are dark, as collateral for his wife's bet, ironic, it happened in my country, indeed sometimes people who fall into the world of gambling really make them crazy.

As in the OP's quote 'kidnapping' which is carried out against family members, manipulation, maybe we often see it and upload it on the internet, For this reason, whoever we are, try to bet professionally and as best we can, without sacrificing family members for our engineering actions for the sake of gambling.

Think with common sense that gambling does not make you satisfied, family is the real hope for anyone.

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Quote from: Merit.s on April 29, 2023, 08:39:14 AM

This is awful to see that gambling addicts can go to any length just to satisfy their gambling urge. Why will the casino allow a 65yrs old man to owe them such huge amount in gambling,which led him to this waywardness. I am not blaming the casino for allowing him to gamble because My Yuan should have stay away from his gambling activities,if he don't have money to gamble. This is the problem of taking gambling to be a lifestyle and thinking that you can make profit from it. It will destroy you and bring shame to you and your family.

In this perspective the gambling casino is out of bounds, in that case, the person will get money into other people its on their side once its got deposited into the gambling casino there's no way to get sued with this because at the first place, they are just operating properly any third party issues came from the player will get set a side and if there's a file case against them for sure the players account will get freeze until the case get done but still the casino is continuously operating. Thats how gambling works buddy it's all about the risk and chance of winning and not all the time profit will go by.

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Quote from: Cookdata on April 30, 2023, 02:08:32 AM

This is not addiction, its either the grandfather has been on drugs for a long time and it has now damaged the brain or he is mentally unstable, he needs medical attention because no sane person will kidnap their stepdaughter because of money, they wouldn't even joke around with such kind of thing, I am used to hearing that blood is thicker than water but this one is the opposite, this one completely off me or maybe they are not really related by blood, probably step-grandfather perhaps.

How people become addicted to gambling to the point of making bad decisions in their life is still a mystery I'm yet to study, the only thing I basically know that can make a man do silly things when it comes to ways to make quick money through gambling is when they don't have another source of income and they rely on gambling to change their life so quickly, they often end up with this kind of mistakes.

actually it's not just gambling addiction that destroys a person's personal life but all kinds of addictions even someone who is addicted to food can suffer from obesity

it is a good thing if you are interested in learning the mindset of gambling addicts so that you avoid it and even tell people you know that being a gambling addict can be fatal to personal and social life

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Quote from: macson on April 27, 2023, 09:01:15 AM

A Shanghai man was sentenced to prison for kidnapping his own granddaughter so he could maintain his gambling addiction with the ransom money.

The kidnapping — orchestrated by a 65-year-old man identified only by his surname, Yuan — was first reported by the Shanghai Law and Rule Journal. The legal news outlet didn't specify when the incident occurred but wrote on April 18 that Yuan had just started serving his prison sentence.

This is not addiction, its either the grandfather has been on drugs for a long time and it has now damaged the brain or he is mentally unstable, he needs medical attention because no sane person will kidnap their stepdaughter because of money, they wouldn't even joke around with such kind of thing, I am used to hearing that blood is thicker than water but this one is the opposite, this one completely off me or maybe they are not really related by blood, probably step-grandfather perhaps.

How people become addicted to gambling to the point of making bad decisions in their life is still a mystery I'm yet to study, the only thing I basically know that can make a man do silly things when it comes to ways to make quick money through gambling is when they don't have another source of income and they rely on gambling to change their life so quickly, they often end up with this kind of mistakes.

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Quote from: QueenVera on April 29, 2023, 11:17:52 PM

This story keeps amazing me and most times, I wonder the length gambling addicts have to go just to meet their guest to gamble more and I think at every slightest chance we find an addicted fellow, attention should be called for such person as it is not always easy to fight addiction.

I've seen worst cases where one had to sell all of their family landed properties just to be able to raise some money for gambling and I've also seen one funny case where a young boy used the documents of his father's house as collateral fir getting a loan just fir the purpose of gambling and i still wonder how people get to this stages.

There are many crazy stories around... A few years ago the guy who was supposed to take pensions to the elderly took the money for himself and went gambling. He was soon arrested, of course, I'm not sure how he was thinking to get away with this.

I guess they get to this stage because they don't think much about the consequences of their actions. And I am sure that "it's my turn to win big" helped them to do something crazy, it's a famous thought "When I win a lot of money, I will pay it all back and there will be something extra for me". But, but... it's gambling, and people mostly lose, especially the ones who are chasing for losses.

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Quote from: Merit.s on April 29, 2023, 08:39:14 AM

This is awful to see that gambling addicts can go to any length just to satisfy their gambling urge. Why will the casino allow a 65yrs old man to owe them such huge amount in gambling,which led him to this waywardness. I am not blaming the casino for allowing him to gamble because My Yuan should have stay away from his gambling activities,if he don't have money to gamble. This is the problem of taking gambling to be a lifestyle and thinking that you can make profit from it. It will destroy you and bring shame to you and your family.

How would the casino know that the money he is using to gamble has been taken from a person as a ransom for holding their child? It's pure business for them and they will obviously not refuse such money since it is a benefit for their business. Imagine you are the owner of the casino and getting $5m from a gambler, would you refuse it? Never.

It's only the gambler who must be blamed for that and now when they are caught doing that unethical and illegal act, they must be punished badly so that they don't think of doing that again, but again, they are old and the court might go easy on them.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on April 29, 2023, 11:04:26 PM

People should understand the dangers of gambling addiction, so they should really stay away from it and not approach it. But that's what happened to that person so that person should really overcome his gambling addiction and try to cure it, especially if he can go to jail, at least he has a lot of free time to cure his addiction. But it will take time, especially if his gambling addiction is very bad and he must really know that he is in a big problem that must be resolved immediately.

If one understands the dangers of gambling addiction and must stay away from it then the only way is to never try to get into gambling because anyone who has entered into gambling has the potential to become a gambling addict.
So far, there are lots of gambling addicts who are difficult to cure unless there is intention and self-will to recover, so one can further limit the gambling activities that he has done.
Yes, when an addict has to deal with the law and ends up in prison they have the opportunity to recover until they stop gambling, which was always done before, but sometimes after they are free, there will be another desire that will appear to gamble again, and this is something that is hard to avoid.
Especially if they live in an environment full of freedom and an environment where there are lots of gambling activities, it is still possible for them to return to how they used to be where they liked gambling.

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This story keeps amazing me and most times, I wonder the length gambling addicts have to go just to meet their guest to gamble more and I think at every slightest chance we find an addicted fellow, attention should be called for such person as it is not always easy to fight addiction.

I've seen worst cases where one had to sell all of their family landed properties just to be able to raise some money for gambling and I've also seen one funny case where a young boy used the documents of his father's house as collateral fir getting a loan just fir the purpose of gambling and i still wonder how people get to this stages.

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