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April 29, 2023, 11:04:26 PM
Too hard to imagine how this thing happens but too unfortunate that it really exists.
Addiction is too powerful that a person could really change their behavior and will commit criminal activities for the sake of fulfilling their addictions.
I can really attest to this one, although it was a different story with that person OP but the reason is the same and he committed a crime (stealing) because of gambling addiction. He is not like that before but due to addiction, send him to jail.
Whatever addiction it is, it won’t be totally good for a person. So much more in gambling, where you can’t control the urge anymore and you’ll eventually find ways to pursue gambling, even if it means committing crimes. Actually, there’s a lot of cases that are related to this. And it only ends with same situation, either the addict is put to jail or they commit suicide so they can skip from the people who might sue them.
People should understand the dangers of gambling addiction, so they should really stay away from it and not approach it. But that's what happened to that person so that person should really overcome his gambling addiction and try to cure it, especially if he can go to jail, at least he has a lot of free time to cure his addiction. But it will take time, especially if his gambling addiction is very bad and he must really know that he is in a big problem that must be resolved immediately.
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April 29, 2023, 05:41:41 PM

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It must be in their personality. Some people gamble almost with friends who also gambles but they were not addicted. A cousin of mine with carefree personality somehow a free spirited one but has the reckless personality as tackless as she could be, got addicted to drugs. She found God after several rehab, found job and then got into gambling.

Not really suicidal but committed bank robbery on her own like this guy who kidnapped his own granddaughter.



There are things which it is really that truly that unbelievable for a certain human being to go into that extreme measures or things that had been done just because of that severe addiction.You would really be putting up yourself into a huge trouble on the time that you would really be going into a point on which you would really be needing badly some money for you to gamble. On the time that addiction is on the severe side then you would be definitely going into those certain extents on which we cant really believe that they would really be going into that kind of decisions in life. It is really just that sad that there are people who do
fall into this kind of moment where they dont have options because they dont have money to be spend on gambling.

This is the main danger if you do make yourself get engaged with gambling and if you are really that emotionally steady or having that fixed mindset towards it then you would
definitely be putting yourself on that risks on getting addicted.
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April 29, 2023, 04:55:47 PM
Too hard to imagine how this thing happens but too unfortunate that it really exists.
Addiction is too powerful that a person could really change their behavior and will commit criminal activities for the sake of fulfilling their addictions.
I can really attest to this one, although it was a different story with that person OP but the reason is the same and he committed a crime (stealing) because of gambling addiction. He is not like that before but due to addiction, send him to jail.
Whatever addiction it is, it won’t be totally good for a person. So much more in gambling, where you can’t control the urge anymore and you’ll eventually find ways to pursue gambling, even if it means committing crimes. Actually, there’s a lot of cases that are related to this. And it only ends with same situation, either the addict is put to jail or they commit suicide so they can skip from the people who might sue them.
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April 29, 2023, 04:42:25 PM
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A Shanghai man was sentenced to prison for kidnapping his own granddaughter so he could maintain his gambling addiction with the ransom money.

The kidnapping — orchestrated by a 65-year-old man identified only by his surname, Yuan — was first reported by the Shanghai Law and Rule Journal. The legal news outlet didn't specify when the incident occurred but wrote on April 18 that Yuan had just started serving his prison sentence.

Yuan kicked off his plan by picking up his four-year-old granddaughter from her kindergarten and taking her out to eat and shop without her mother's knowledge, the Journal reported.

[1] https://www.insider.com/shanghai-man-kidnapped-his-own-granddaughter-for-72000-report-2023-4
[2] https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/grandpa-in-china-kidnaps-own-granddaughter-demands-ransom-so-he-can-continue-gambling

many gambling addicts have lost their minds because their desire to continue gambling overpowers their common sense, hence the importance of "gambling responsibly"

As you have said, those who are really addicted cannot control their emotions and their decisions are mostly clouded. What their brain tells them is that they could need money and they need to get it and continue to play. It doesn't matter if they going to steal from someone or thru their families, or borrow money and then not paid, or put things that is very important to them as collateral to Loan sharks despite the risk of it.

And in this case, the man thinks that he can get a huge money from kidnapping his own granddaughter and get a ransom from her and through his own family. As if his reasoning is justify and he thinks this is the correct decision. It's good that he is caught sent to prison, otherwise it could be worst for this old man. For sure he felt sorry by doing it, but it's too late already.
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April 29, 2023, 04:16:20 PM
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A Shanghai man was sentenced to prison for kidnapping his own granddaughter so he could maintain his gambling addiction with the ransom money.

The kidnapping — orchestrated by a 65-year-old man identified only by his surname, Yuan — was first reported by the Shanghai Law and Rule Journal. The legal news outlet didn't specify when the incident occurred but wrote on April 18 that Yuan had just started serving his prison sentence.

Yuan kicked off his plan by picking up his four-year-old granddaughter from her kindergarten and taking her out to eat and shop without her mother's knowledge, the Journal reported.

[1] https://www.insider.com/shanghai-man-kidnapped-his-own-granddaughter-for-72000-report-2023-4
[2] https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/grandpa-in-china-kidnaps-own-granddaughter-demands-ransom-so-he-can-continue-gambling

many gambling addicts have lost their minds because their desire to continue gambling overpowers their common sense, hence the importance of "gambling responsibly"

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There are three licensing objectives which support the whole basis of gambling regulation:

- that crime should be kept out of gambling
- it should be conducted in a fair and open way
- children and other vulnerable persons should be protected from harm or exploitation from gambling.

[1] https://www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk/licensees-and-businesses/guide/social-responsibility

It's like any toxic addiction.  That's a little over the top but things like gambling, drinking, drugs, etc ruins peoples lives and families.  This is an extreme outcome from gambling addiction but yeah it happens.  I didn't get a chance to read the article gonna read it in a bit.  But did he end up getting any money from his own family?
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April 29, 2023, 04:11:41 PM
These news are the reason that make people tend to think gambling is bad when gambling itself actually good if you know what you're doing. Kidnapping to get money isn't only happen for gambling addict, but drug addict, alcohol addict, had a huge debt, want to have luxury lifestyle, personal problem etc.

This kind news is same like someone deposit Bitcoin in ponzi scheme project and then he blame Bitcoin because he can't withdraw it from ponzi scheme project.
If you can use gambling as entertainment and get pleasure and not become addicted to gambling, you are using gambling properly. But sadly, many people have become addicted to gambling because they get out of control after playing several games for a while. This is also what makes the number of people addicted to gambling increase because they do not have good self-control while gambling.

And people addicted to gambling can do bad things to anyone, including their own family because of the urge to get money quickly. And they will do anything to have money and continue playing gambling. This is not the same as a Ponzi scheme project which will eventually blame Bitcoin because it is about how people can control themselves when they gamble.
This is the reason why people should never be encouraged to enter gambling especially if they have issues in controlling their urge and emotions, otherwise they will gamble to the extent of harming others. Though gambling is not bad for those who can manage their gambling losses and just leave the house easily, but for those who sees gambling as a consistent source of profits, once they lose huge amount, they will find it hard to recover their emotions that may lead them to do things that are obviously not right.
But we know that these things cant really be that be known out once you do tend to experience up this field and this is why self control and discipline would really be your main key on here. If you do make out some
try out just for the sake of curiosity then you could really do such thing and find out for yourself if you are really that a type of person who do have that kind of emotional problem. If you do find out that you do have one then better quit for the good or stop on what you are doing.If you are really that able to control yourself and able to stop mid way of your gambling session then it is really just that fine for you to get involved into it.

We know that there are people who arent really that emotionally and mentally stable when it comes on dealing up with things which is correlated or connected on spending up some funds or money.
We dont really like on losing up money which it would really be just that a normal approach that we do have those kind of reactions on which it is something usual but there are ones
who do come into a certain extent which it isnt really that good anymore.

Speaking about addiction then this is where problem do start, on which on the time that you are already seeing yourself into the verge of addiction then you would be doing things that you
havent done for the rest of your life on whether you would be selling out some things or possession or committing already some crimes or non right things that a normal
person would do. If you cant be having that control then you are really that in big trouble.

It must be in their personality. Some people gamble almost with friends who also gambles but they were not addicted. A cousin of mine with carefree personality somehow a free spirited one but has the reckless personality as tackless as she could be, got addicted to drugs. She found God after several rehab, found job and then got into gambling.

Not really suicidal but committed bank robbery on her own like this guy who kidnapped his own granddaughter.


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April 29, 2023, 03:36:51 PM
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Another madness of gambling addicts is that they are in 15x higher risk of committing suicide.  Aside from the crimes they can do, gambling addicts according to this article[1], that research done 4 years ago finds they are 15x susceptible in committing suicide. It is also supported by lots or articles about the true story of people who used to be a gambling addict, now recovered[2] that they attempt to kill themselves several times.  It is the depression and the feeling of hopelessness that triggers the suicide among the gambling addict.  It was also stated that up to half of individuals in treatment for gambling disorder have suicidal ideation, and about 17% have attempted suicide[3]

According to this article[3] these are the warning signs that someone may be at risk for suicide include:

  • Talking about wanting to die or kill oneself
  • Looking for ways to kill oneself
  • Talking about feeling hopeless, having no reason to live
  • Talking about feeling trapped or being in unbearable pain
  • Talking about being a burden to others
  • Increasing use of drugs or alcohol
  • Acting anxious or agitated
  • Behaving recklessly
  • Sleeping too little or too much
  • Withdrawing or feeling isolated
  • Showing rage or talking about seeking revenge
  • Displaying extreme mood swings

So it is not only crimes but also self-afflicted injuries that can be done by people who are addicted to gambling.



[1] https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/mar/13/problem-gamblers-at-15-times-higher-risk-of-suicide-study-finds
[2] https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/local/2021/03/26/gambling-addiction-depression-suicide-ohio/4740039001/
[3] https://www.nevadacouncil.org/understanding-problem-gambling/impact-consequences/suicide/
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April 29, 2023, 03:12:40 PM
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These news are the reason that make people tend to think gambling is bad when gambling itself actually good if you know what you're doing. Kidnapping to get money isn't only happen for gambling addict, but drug addict, alcohol addict, had a huge debt, want to have luxury lifestyle, personal problem etc.

This kind news is same like someone deposit Bitcoin in ponzi scheme project and then he blame Bitcoin because he can't withdraw it from ponzi scheme project.
If you can use gambling as entertainment and get pleasure and not become addicted to gambling, you are using gambling properly. But sadly, many people have become addicted to gambling because they get out of control after playing several games for a while. This is also what makes the number of people addicted to gambling increase because they do not have good self-control while gambling.

And people addicted to gambling can do bad things to anyone, including their own family because of the urge to get money quickly. And they will do anything to have money and continue playing gambling. This is not the same as a Ponzi scheme project which will eventually blame Bitcoin because it is about how people can control themselves when they gamble.
This is the reason why people should never be encouraged to enter gambling especially if they have issues in controlling their urge and emotions, otherwise they will gamble to the extent of harming others. Though gambling is not bad for those who can manage their gambling losses and just leave the house easily, but for those who sees gambling as a consistent source of profits, once they lose huge amount, they will find it hard to recover their emotions that may lead them to do things that are obviously not right.
But we know that these things cant really be that be known out once you do tend to experience up this field and this is why self control and discipline would really be your main key on here. If you do make out some
try out just for the sake of curiosity then you could really do such thing and find out for yourself if you are really that a type of person who do have that kind of emotional problem. If you do find out that you do have one then better quit for the good or stop on what you are doing.If you are really that able to control yourself and able to stop mid way of your gambling session then it is really just that fine for you to get involved into it.

We know that there are people who arent really that emotionally and mentally stable when it comes on dealing up with things which is correlated or connected on spending up some funds or money.
We dont really like on losing up money which it would really be just that a normal approach that we do have those kind of reactions on which it is something usual but there are ones
who do come into a certain extent which it isnt really that good anymore.

Speaking about addiction then this is where problem do start, on which on the time that you are already seeing yourself into the verge of addiction then you would be doing things that you
havent done for the rest of your life on whether you would be selling out some things or possession or committing already some crimes or non right things that a normal
person would do. If you cant be having that control then you are really that in big trouble.
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April 29, 2023, 03:01:20 PM
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My bad, I didn't go through the article, but I'd like to ask if it was recorded how much he staked from the ransome he received or he didn't receive the ransome at all? I have a reason for this questions, which is, if a drug addict gets mentally ill the doctor will blame it on drugs alone, and neglect other things that contribute to mental illness like bypolar disorder, emotional stress, fustration etc. Similar judgement can be applicable to the old man in question, he is known as a gambler that's why the press quickly tagged gambling as the reason behind his action. We all know that many things lead to kidnapping and the man should be considered a kidnapper alone, as the reason behind his action doesn't change the fact that he is a kidnapper. If he wasn't a gambler and he used the money to buy a car will it be mentioned on news what he used the money buy? My point is that, reporters don't put in enough investigation before publishing articles. They could have made more research to discover other reasons why the old man took his granddaughter for ransome.
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April 29, 2023, 02:22:42 PM
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Too hard to imagine how this thing happens but too unfortunate that it really exists.
Addiction is too powerful that a person could really change their behavior and will commit criminal activities for the sake of fulfilling their addictions.
I can really attest to this one, although it was a different story with that person OP but the reason is the same and he committed a crime (stealing) because of gambling addiction. He is not like that before but due to addiction, send him to jail.

Unfortunately, these does really exists in our world. Addiction can truly make someone blind because they don't know their boundaries anymore and as well as what is right from the wrong. According to the OP's story, the grandfather didn't really think thoroughly about the possible consequence he could bring upon himself as he was just too busy feeding his addiction towards gambling. These things has becoming more and more normal these days because gambling activities is almost everywhere.
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April 29, 2023, 02:07:49 PM
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That is very bad, how can a grandfather who supposed protect his grand-daughter kidnapped her because of gambling. Oh! That is very bad. I didn't see the man as an addicted gambling gambler but I see him as a wicked grandpa. Gambling addition as level by level. We have the lower class level and the upper class level. Probably he is of the upper class level which have some witchcraft spirit.
Gambling addiction is more of wanting to play bet at all time but what this man did is contradicting.

In fact, in our society, sometimes there are such vile people hiding under the mask of respectable people that kidnapping a granddaughter and asking for her ransom can seem like a prank. I would not write off this grandfather's behavior as a gambling addiction, but he is most likely mentally ill and dangerous to society. The main question remains - why don't we still have a working system for identifying this kind of person at an early stage?
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April 29, 2023, 01:53:14 PM
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We have already seen in the history how gambling has destroyed the lives of so many people.
Many people have destroyed their relationships with their partners, family, friends as well as colleagues.
We should learn from others' mistakes and improvise. The grand parent in this story would have had so much experience yet he failed to control his gambling addiction.
This tells us to maintain a distance from gambling as soon as you realize that you are getting addicted to it.

I agree, we should learn from these news and prevent ourselves from falling to gambling addiction.  Let this incidents set as an example that if we don't gamble responsibly, control ourselves and moderate our gambling activity, there is a possibility in the future to get addiction to gambling.  we should be warry of these effects of gambling addiction and set as a warning and at the same time limiter for us in engaging in gambling activities.

Gambling isn't a sin but too much gambling to the point of gambling addiction often destroy lives and to combat such thing to happen, we need self control and moderation of our gambling engagement.

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There are three licensing objectives which support the whole basis of gambling regulation:

- that crime should be kept out of gambling
- it should be conducted in a fair and open way
- children and other vulnerable persons should be protected from harm or exploitation from gambling.

That is a good objectives but the problem is regulators are too relax in monitoring gambling activities.  They will never know unless there is already a case of incident due to gambling addiction.  There regulation seems only a decoration and just in writing and was never been implemented or practiced.
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April 29, 2023, 01:21:20 PM
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That is very bad, how can a grandfather who supposed protect his grand-daughter kidnapped her because of gambling. Oh! That is very bad. I didn't see the man as an addicted gambling gambler but I see him as a wicked grandpa. Gambling addition as level by level. We have the lower class level and the upper class level. Probably he is of the upper class level which have some witchcraft spirit.
Gambling addiction is more of wanting to play bet at all time but what this man did is contradicting.
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April 29, 2023, 01:00:22 PM
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more than a gambling addict he seems to me a real criminal (as well as not really intelligent given the type of crime he has committed, also with a relative).

anyone who has committed such an offense is definitely a "problematic person" regardless of their gambling addiction.
he probably would have committed such idiot action for any problem he would facing...
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April 29, 2023, 11:05:58 AM
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These news are the reason that make people tend to think gambling is bad when gambling itself actually good if you know what you're doing. Kidnapping to get money isn't only happen for gambling addict, but drug addict, alcohol addict, had a huge debt, want to have luxury lifestyle, personal problem etc.

This kind news is same like someone deposit Bitcoin in ponzi scheme project and then he blame Bitcoin because he can't withdraw it from ponzi scheme project.
If you can use gambling as entertainment and get pleasure and not become addicted to gambling, you are using gambling properly. But sadly, many people have become addicted to gambling because they get out of control after playing several games for a while. This is also what makes the number of people addicted to gambling increase because they do not have good self-control while gambling.

And people addicted to gambling can do bad things to anyone, including their own family because of the urge to get money quickly. And they will do anything to have money and continue playing gambling. This is not the same as a Ponzi scheme project which will eventually blame Bitcoin because it is about how people can control themselves when they gamble.
This is the reason why people should never be encouraged to enter gambling especially if they have issues in controlling their urge and emotions, otherwise they will gamble to the extent of harming others. Though gambling is not bad for those who can manage their gambling losses and just leave the house easily, but for those who sees gambling as a consistent source of profits, once they lose huge amount, they will find it hard to recover their emotions that may lead them to do things that are obviously not right.
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April 29, 2023, 10:35:58 AM
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Too hard to imagine how this thing happens but too unfortunate that it really exists.
Addiction is too powerful that a person could really change their behavior and will commit criminal activities for the sake of fulfilling their addictions.
I can really attest to this one, although it was a different story with that person OP but the reason is the same and he committed a crime (stealing) because of gambling addiction. He is not like that before but due to addiction, send him to jail.
There are many unfortunate stories now that leads to crime, lost of all properties and even lost of lives due to gambling. It's an addiction that gamblers will not realize unless they already loss alot, got in jailed or even worse. Gamblers tends to find ways to keep playing once they into it even they don't have any money left to spend and some do things illegally just to keep playing. It's almost every day on my country were crimes happens due to gambling, there are some gamblers that are still missing due to the thought of doing something fraud in a gambling organization. We can't really know what's on gamblers mind so we must know how to keep ourselves responsible to avoid problems.
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April 29, 2023, 10:14:56 AM
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These were really crazy thinking and one of the worst effects of gambling addiction. But don't think that it's just with a gambling addiction but also with other types of addictions where the vice is requiring money. I don't get it that these people even think and try to harm their own relatives just because they're too severe with the situation that they're in as they want to gamble. He's an old man and sad to see that he's come to an end in his old age like this.
You are right, factors causes addictions.
Let us not talk about the extreme mile of an addict, So many things in life contributes to the WHY behind every addiction. Before an addict crosses batteries like stealing just to satisfy his or her desires,  breaking up in a relationship order than elude the act, and so many detrimental decisions,  there is something merchandising the whole heart. The first and most important thing I will mention is depression.
A lot of people are depressed in different ways which one wouldn't know if not told. The hunt for money has frustrated so many life such that they have no hope than gambling and this is the first cause of addiction before the effect of addictions.
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April 29, 2023, 10:06:43 AM
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Whoever that is, he crossed the line from being a gambling addict to becoming pure evil for doing that to his own daughter. It's too much and I don't think it's just because of the addiction to gambling. There must be other reasons why these things do happen. Loan sharks for example. He must have a great deal of loaned money and the loan sharks are trying to get it back by force so he made a plan to create money out of thin air by using his own daughter.
Maybe he thought this is one good reason to force the bank into letting him borrow more money because the daughter's life is in jeopardy.

It is truly madness and this kind of activity should not be roaming in the public anymore as he may hurt more people in the process.
Gamble responsibly.
A person who takes such a step has either lost their mind or has become too compelled to do it because of either their addiction or lust for money but either way, they probably found no other way around that they could use to get a handsome amount of money to complete what they wanted to so they decided to take this route.

They might have thought that they will easily get away with this but due to them being old-aged, they probably couldn't execute or think of a plan that might have made them able to escape successfully, and they will probably serve their remaining life in prison.
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April 29, 2023, 09:57:38 AM
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many gambling addicts have lost their minds because their desire to continue gambling overpowers their common sense, hence the importance of "gambling responsibly"
The man in this story should never be allowed to see his daughter again or anywhere around children. He is a risk to them. Now he has destroyed his relationship his family forever. That what gambling does. It firsts destroys the life of the gambler then it goes on to destroy the relationship with the family and friends. If can't gamble with discipline then do not gamble at all. Gamblers need new friends and new hobbies. Sometimes, your environment and associations has its way of holding you down and holding you back. I hope we learn from this pathetic story.


We have already seen in the history how gambling has destroyed the lives of so many people.
Many people have destroyed their relationships with their partners, family, friends as well as colleagues.
We should learn from others' mistakes and improvise. The grand parent in this story would have had so much experience yet he failed to control his gambling addiction.
This tells us to maintain a distance from gambling as soon as you realize that you are getting addicted to it.
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April 29, 2023, 08:42:28 AM
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These were really crazy thinking and one of the worst effects of gambling addiction. But don't think that it's just with a gambling addiction but also with other types of addictions where the vice is requiring money. I don't get it that these people even think and try to harm their own relatives just because they're too severe with the situation that they're in as they want to gamble. He's an old man and sad to see that he's come to an end in his old age like this.
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