The new U.S.-China agreement is a "forced friendship. What awaits the world ? - page 5.

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The US government know that there are a shift in the power from the West to the East (economically and military power) ....and they also know that they cannot afford a war against China, because it will bankrupt them.

The BRICS countries are a formidable force, if you look at their combined military power and their economic transition. If China was much smaller, then the US would have crushed them like a bug.... but it's not going to be that easy. (Nobody can afford a WWIII... it will destroy the world) Angry

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When viewed from an economic standpoint, America must indeed take a position that can harm them in international cooperation, America must acknowledge China's strength today, they must always be wary of China because today's China is a very difficult opponent to defeat, and the cold war that So far America has been running with China, it has not had a good impact on the economy, in fact America has seemed to be slapped back with their bad condition today.
If America imposes its will and interferes with Taiwan's problems continuously, it is very likely that America will not gain from this dispute.
Choosing to clarify relations in China is the safest move for America right now.

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It would take it as a signal from the United States about their willingness to cool down the tensions which have been going on lately, with the beginning of the war in Ukraine and the alledged support China is giving to the Kremlin.

In the end, both China and USA have such a tight economical relationship that it would be harmful for both of them if the political tensions affected the exportations and importations of all kinds of goods.

Regardless what the USA says, I would bet they will continue to support Taiwan and harden their military bases and positions in Asia. Unless Joe Biden is such a proChinese as the far right says and he is okey with Taiwan losing its status as independent nation.

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Quote from: avikz on June 19, 2023, 10:45:12 AM

This is a eyewash. A pure and white lie. The matter of fact is that the rest of the world do not trust either US or China. Both are warmongers and invasive in nature. So if both of these countries are planning for a forced friendship, probably that's good for peace. But I don't see that happening. Taiwan will remain as a burning issue here and the equation can change anytime.

So I don't see any reason to become overjoyed about their friendship. Change is the only constant and we will see changes in this equation.

None of them sees it as friendship. They all wear the front appearance but certainly, they look after the future outcome if they continue the military drills all around. Both will still play the same game but all these friendship acts will be accepted after all they will be cooperating in building economic growth.

US can not fight 2 wars at the same time and wars need Money. I don't see the end of the war in Ukraine still and they should proceed to talking about ending the Ukraine war while they are peace.

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US not supporting Taiwan's independence has always been their position on paper but don't listen to what they say and look at what they do. It's laughable that they claim they don't want conflict but they're pushing for it. US have been preparing in case China makes a move on Taiwan by increasing their military presence in Asia. I read somewhere that NATO is also making a move by building a base in Japan. All these suggests that they are trying to make the same strategy they did against Russia.

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Quote from: DrBeer on June 19, 2023, 07:10:35 AM

What does this mean? Even yesterday there was a very serious confrontation around Taiwan, today it is "peace, friendship, respect".
There are two questions:
1. Which country has become a bargaining chip?
2. What does the world expect in terms of economics ?
3. Joke question: Don't you think that the capital of the country of the "bargaining chip" begins with the letter "M" ?

Does not want war but America is a country with a history of war engagements everywhere, funding, arms sales, etc. Am I exaggerating enough about it? now is a new era called the cold war, the same people behind it are trying to bring down other countries economies so that their own country's economy remains standing with a financial system that controls all other countries finances. I agree with the forced friendship title context because that's what happens when America wants something to control. Under Biden's leadership, the United States issued more inconsistent statements, for example yesterday they declared themselves competitors and the next day they declared friendship.

Since when has Xi Jinping bowed to the US when it comes to economic development? well, there's a kind of fear inside the US white house environment. The United States is too afraid of China economic revival, even being challenged openly by the BRICS Alliance with the declaration of de-dollarization. The US response doesn't talk too much because it realizes that the country's economy is on the precipice which is at stake since it has defaulted on debt payments.

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This is a eyewash. A pure and white lie. The matter of fact is that the rest of the world do not trust either US or China. Both are warmongers and invasive in nature. So if both of these countries are planning for a forced friendship, probably that's good for peace. But I don't see that happening. Taiwan will remain as a burning issue here and the equation can change anytime.

So I don't see any reason to become overjoyed about their friendship. Change is the only constant and we will see changes in this equation.

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After so many years, the US used Taiwan as a chess piece to oppose China, and I was surprised by this news. But I don't think they are bargaining with each other, and there will be another pawn in place. Instead, why don't we think in a different way? If the US continues to wage war with China on all fronts, the US will not benefit, the one who suffers the most is no longer China.
As for Taiwan, a distant water cannot put out the fire near it, whether the US continues to support Taiwan or not, it can't be stopped if China really wants to unify Taiwan. Even the US and EU are facing many difficulties in the Ukraine battlefield, so I don't think China will be afraid of the US to use anything to bargain.

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I think China took Blinken's current visit as a sign of US weakness, which it actually is. The United States realized that it was not possible to frighten China with large-scale exercises and that the American military-industrial complex could not pull a proxy war on two fronts. You have to bend and flirt, but without much success - Blinken was received much worse in China than Bill Gates.

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Today the world heard: "The U.S. does not support Taiwan's independence and has no intention of engaging in conflict with China."

U.S. Secretary of State Anthony Blinken said this during a meeting with Chinese leader Xi Jinping in Beijing.

Blinken also stressed that the United States does not seek a cold war and has no plans to change the Chinese system. In turn, Xi Jinping said that China respects U.S. interests and will not challenge Washington.

The Chinese leader added that the United States should also respect China's position and not harm its legitimate rights and interests. Xi Jinping expressed hope that the U.S. will take a rational and pragmatic position on China.

What does this mean? Even yesterday there was a very serious confrontation around Taiwan, today it is "peace, friendship, respect".
There are two questions:
1. Which country has become a bargaining chip?
2. What does the world expect in terms of economics ?
3. Joke question: Don't you think that the capital of the country of the "bargaining chip" begins with the letter "M" ?

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