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Quote from: ChiBitCTy on September 01, 2024, 11:12:11 PM

“ A real gambler never seeks winning but pleasure and fun”. Im not sure I could necessarily agree with this. I gamble for fun, and I never have gotten to the point where it’s become and addiction or over taken my life in any sort of way, but that being said I still gamble to win, otherwise I don’t think I really see the point of doing so. Anyways, that’s just me.

I guess as time goes your mindset began to change, maybe you started with the mindset of gambling for fun , then later you began to chase after the money multiplying part in gambling, that can still happen alot of folks started with the mindset of never getting addicted to gambling but at the end they endup being a gamble addicts.

All you really need is self control, because most people that claim that they are gambling for fun also lacks that self control that's why you see them complaining most time how they endup losing a huge amount of money they didn't plan to use , all because they went out of budget when aiming for the jackpot.

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Quote from: mirakal on August 30, 2024, 11:05:25 PM

...But from what we have witnessed and seeing the sentiment of the majority, we definitely see that they feel disappointed when losing. Which is not really the behavior of gamblers who just think about entertaining themselves. A real gambler never seeks winning but pleasure and fun.

Don't invalidate the feeling of others, anyone can be disappointed but it doesn't change the fact it still fun while at the same time you feel excited, thrilled and sometimes nervous, that's how fun comes from. Of course, there's no way you feel sad when you win, that's why it's more fun when you win, lossing on the other hand might be disappointed but it doesn't mean you didn't feel fun while you are betting.

Definitely. I don't believe that someone who loses will not feel regret. If this is not the case, then it is easier to throw away money. Any result will be felt accordingly. We always hope for luck, especially if we play with friends. The feeling of competition is inherent in people, and sometimes the cost of winning is not important, but the moment of victory itself is important. However, adults should be adults, knowing how to lose gracefully without going into deep stress. Disappointment, yes, but this is a game, and when we play, we always know that we need to have fun with a sober understanding of any unexpected situation.

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Some rich gamblers gamble for fun, while some gamblers gamble to earn some extra income. For them the urgency of money there, for which they agree to take the risk to gamble and get the money in a shorter period of time. Sentiments play only a small part for which the gambler gambles. The main reason can only be this. Gambling helps the gambler overcome the shortage of money in fractions of seconds. This is the reason many middle-class people jump into the well of gambling. The sad part is that they don’t see the reality of losses, which they later regret about.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on September 01, 2024, 11:57:28 PM

Whenever we talk about the sentiments we always say that the person who loses in gambling is always sad and depressed.

I am not saying anything against this argument but there are times when the gambler wins and also win good and they are too much happy about the progress. A very few people discuss about this and only talk about the negativity they found in gambling.

Gambling is the game of probabilities and luck and you will face both success and failure in it, so nothing to be worry about if you loses at times.

The belief by some people that people who lose in gambling are always depressed is not totally correct. Depression is an extreme case of anger and disappointment and I have not experienced it in the few years I have gambled. A depressed person will have a persistent feeling of sadness or anger which will lead to a loss of interest in activities the person once enjoyed. I believe such feelings can be associated with either gambling addiction or over-gambling.

If you gamble within your means and lose, the pain or disappointment won't last for a long time, so it cannot be called depression. Gambling is not all about loss, sometimes one also wins. That is why it is important to manage your wins because it can help you cover up for losses. My fried will always advise me to maximize my wins because rainy days in gambling may be long and lonely sometimes.

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Quote from: mirakal on August 30, 2024, 11:05:25 PM

I couldn't agree more with those gamblers saying that they gamble just for fun because the truth is that people gamble in the hope of multiplying their money. But from what we have witnessed and seeing the sentiment of the majority, we definitely see that they feel disappointed when losing. Which is not really the behavior of gamblers who just think about entertaining themselves. A real gambler never seeks winning but pleasure and fun.

Hearing the news that some people committed suicide and crimes can also prove that my statement is right. Maybe I'm wrong, but what I've seen is enough to say that gamblers are here for money, not for fun.

I also wanted to hear opinions from others.

There are a very limited number of gamblers who gamble for pleasure or fun, but most gamble with the hope of making money. There are also many who gamble for fun in the beginning but later on when they win, they try to make money from it again and again and continue to gamble which later turns into an addiction. Due to excessive gambling addiction, many people become depressed when they lose gambling. Depression also causes behavioral problems in people.

I saw a shopkeeper a few days ago who was betting on a game of cricket. The team he was siding with was almost losing which is why we see aggressive behavior in him. In that condition, he started misbehaving with us and others when we went to buy anything from his shop. Maybe he loses his temper and starts misbehaving with people as a result of losing his gambling.

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Quote from: PX-Z on September 01, 2024, 12:27:46 PM

Quote from: mirakal on August 30, 2024, 11:05:25 PM

...But from what we have witnessed and seeing the sentiment of the majority, we definitely see that they feel disappointed when losing. Which is not really the behavior of gamblers who just think about entertaining themselves. A real gambler never seeks winning but pleasure and fun.

Don't invalidate the feeling of others, anyone can be disappointed but it doesn't change the fact it still fun while at the same time you feel excited, thrilled and sometimes nervous, that's how fun comes from. Of course, there's no way you feel sad when you win, that's why it's more fun when you win, lossing on the other hand might be disappointed but it doesn't mean you didn't feel fun while you are betting.

Whenever we talk about the sentiments we always say that the person who loses in gambling is always sad and depressed.

I am not saying anything against this argument but there are times when the gambler wins and also win good and they are too much happy about the progress. A very few people discuss about this and only talk about the negativity they found in gambling.

Gambling is the game of probabilities and luck and you will face both success and failure in it, so nothing to be worry about if you loses at times.

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Quote from: DiMarxist on September 01, 2024, 06:45:04 PM

Definitely gamblers need a win probably winning brings extra joy but the difference is wanting a win and forcing a win, when emotions is involve the outcome might be negative making gamblers addicted.

Players who kick around trying to pressurize the gambling system to offer up a big win, are skating on a thin ice. They’ll fail too well that nothing will be found left in their pockets. I do not seem to catch the glimpse of what such players are up to, but I do see old people who act like they forcefully want a win in slot game. They always go home with a…forced smile. Gambling may not be for this type of players who are risking their own life to win money.

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Quote from: I_Anime on September 01, 2024, 02:05:09 PM

Quote from: mirakal on August 30, 2024, 11:05:25 PM

I couldn't agree more with those gamblers saying that they gamble just for fun because the truth is that people gamble in the hope of multiplying their money. But from what we have witnessed and seeing the sentiment of the majority, we definitely see that they feel disappointed when losing. Which is not really the behavior of gamblers who just think about entertaining themselves. A real gambler never seeks winning but pleasure and fun.

Hearing the news that some people committed suicide and crimes can also prove that my statement is right. Maybe I'm wrong, but what I've seen is enough to say that gamblers are here for money, not for fun.

I also wanted to hear opinions from others.

Most people are just using that mindset to coverup that they are gambling for fun and pleasure, while deep down they know that is all about the multiplying of their money part , just as you said how can you be gambling for fun and you are feeling disappointed because someone that's really gambling for fun will always use amount they can afford to lose not the other way round, so that they can easily mine on when the game to goes their way . Because only those are gambling with the aim to multiply their money will gamble with what they can't afford and will keep gambling whenever they have experience a loss just to win it back.

Gambling to increase money is really another side effect where the gambler cannot justify with their money and he loses from the overall point of view. Yes, many gamblers gamble just for fun and their losing mentality can become distracting and reduce the tendency to lose without any form of addiction. Mine can become for those who can withdraw themselves in time and match themselves with ability and to do this he has to adopt some strategy and stay with profit. You have to depend a lot on luck to judge success criteria which is important to allow financial ability along with mental ability.

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“ A real gambler never seeks winning but pleasure and fun”. Im not sure I could necessarily agree with this. I gamble for fun, and I never have gotten to the point where it’s become and addiction or over taken my life in any sort of way, but that being said I still gamble to win, otherwise I don’t think I really see the point of doing so. Anyways, that’s just me.

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Quote from: Julien_Olynpic on August 31, 2024, 01:06:27 AM

Many people claim that they play for fun. I honestly still doubt it, although I admit that it is possible. After all, in most cases you lose, how can you get pleasure from that? When a person loses, he gets disappointed. Often he has a desire to win back and this can lead to addiction. But in the end, in most cases you still will not experience pleasure. I would say that people need strong emotions, and not pleasure from the game.

To me, the fun in the game of gambling is when the players has no value to loose and it would be more interesting if the players could win to multiply their wagers at most cases but it is apparently impossible because winning in gambling is based on luck.

If we prioritize fun in gambling, why then do we not celebrate every outcome at the end we looses? Of course it is impossible because we have lost values which we actually staked in other to gain more but the result turned against us.

If I must play a game with the prior of fun, the I am not staking my money on it or probably a demo game would be okay for the context.

indeed, winning in gambling most likely depends on our own luck because there is indeed nothing certain that can make players win easily and certainly. therefore we must be able to think or have the right mindset in gambling where we do not fully expect gambling to be able to provide victory because with such a mindset it is possible that it will only make us disappointed and emotional when the result is defeat while defeat is what will certainly happen more often and dominate.
Does that mean that you are betting, the goal is to make money or pursue victory? victory is certainly what everyone who gambles wants, but this way of thinking is different, where there are people who can indeed seek pleasure without having to win, it does not mean that they lose and are happy, but there is other pleasure such as from the course of the bet that is made because it will certainly provide the same sensation as real gambling by betting money and demo-based gambling, of course it is different even though the victory obtained in demo gambling is greater than in real gambling.

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The negative emotions that comes with gambling loss is the reason gamblers still feel like winning always is necessary. When they never get to win they might feel sad mostly people who take loan because majority of gamblers who commit Suicide are associated with loan.
Definitely gamblers need a win probably winning brings extra joy but the difference is wanting a win and forcing a win, when emotions is involve the outcome might be negative making gamblers addicted.

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People gambling under the illusion that they'll become rich are nothing more than delusional. This is a delusion that for some people keeps on and on and on sadly. This is why gambling has come to be considered an addiction.

And moreso, gambling being considered an addiction and problematic behavior is something that has its roots in people's desperation and being down so bad in monetary terms that some will risk their wellbeing and security for the chance to have enough to buy a car or something or for material gains in general.

So it's important to keep in mind that gambling just for fun and not with amounts that could hurt you if you lose something substantial.

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Quote from: mirakal on August 30, 2024, 11:05:25 PM

I couldn't agree more with those gamblers saying that they gamble just for fun because the truth is that people gamble in the hope of multiplying their money. But from what we have witnessed and seeing the sentiment of the majority, we definitely see that they feel disappointed when losing. Which is not really the behavior of gamblers who just think about entertaining themselves. A real gambler never seeks winning but pleasure and fun.

A real gambler seeks for two things - it's actually far from what any non-gambler would perceive ... The ecstacy and the income; It's a different atmosphere and moment for spectators both outside and inside the field. Afterwards, they all check on their tickets to confirm payment if there's any win. The ideology behind the fact that people are just happy wagering without any mutual benefit is false!

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Quote from: Accardo on September 02, 2024, 08:57:50 AM

If the player claims it—that means the person never planned to enjoy gambling—even when losing his money. A well prepared fun gambler will not find himself losing so much money and happiness, in a gambling session, without amending the cause to it...

I don't even understand you... Are you tryna mix up the whole point or something? How does anyone amend the cause of losing? Loses are guaranteed -- even much more than a win -- that it happens more frequently.

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There is not much I can say about this topic which has not already been said... It is truly heartbreaking there is people who will turn onto crime and even end their own life because they have developed a crippling addiction to gambling, and all of it comes from the necessity of money and the urge to chase all that which was lost to the gambling house/casino in the first place.

There may be some point in which a person is not longer able to gamble responsibly, in the same way a social drinker devolves into an alcoholic...
As for myself, I try to continue to see casinos as businesses (so they will always profit) and the money wagered as lost/deposited to them.
The best thing one can do is to draw the line tightly and focus on not allowing an habit to turn into an addiction...

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Quote from: mirakal on August 30, 2024, 11:05:25 PM

I couldn't agree more with those gamblers saying that they gamble just for fun because the truth is that people gamble in the hope of multiplying their money. But from what we have witnessed and seeing the sentiment of the majority, we definitely see that they feel disappointed when losing. Which is not really the behavior of gamblers who just think about entertaining themselves. A real gambler never seeks winning but pleasure and fun.

Hearing the news that some people committed suicide and crimes can also prove that my statement is right. Maybe I'm wrong, but what I've seen is enough to say that gamblers are here for money, not for fun.

I also wanted to hear opinions from others.

Think of a game that doesn't involve money... a board game, a soccer match with friends, a card game (no money involved), etc... are you happy when you lose? Obviously not!

You don't need to have money involved to want to win. Winning, with or without money, satisfies our desire and increases the pleasure of the game. However, if I lose several times, I will certainly be sad, even if I don't show it sometimes.

So, now imagine that you put money into a game for entertainment purposes. You are paying to have fun, it is not something free. Even if your intention is not to multiply your money, the person will certainly be very upset if they cannot achieve their goals, because they paid for it and did not get what they wanted.

I play for fun, and I am satisfied when I win, but very frustrated when I quickly lose my money and cannot have fun.

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Quote from: mirakal on August 30, 2024, 11:05:25 PM

I couldn't agree more with those gamblers saying that they gamble just for fun because the truth is that people gamble in the hope of multiplying their money. But from what we have witnessed and seeing the sentiment of the majority, we definitely see that they feel disappointed when losing. Which is not really the behavior of gamblers who just think about entertaining themselves. A real gambler never seeks winning but pleasure and fun.

Hearing the news that some people committed suicide and crimes can also prove that my statement is right. Maybe I'm wrong, but what I've seen is enough to say that gamblers are here for money, not for fun.

I also wanted to hear opinions from others.

I do tell people that if it's fun, I know my best way to have it even when it comes to sport. If I want to have fun about football, I will book a session with friends and have some fun and not from gambling. My gambling spirit is money making husle but I don't gamble because have just fun but make more money. Not double my money but play and makes money but not too depend on it, if it comes I will be happy and take the money and if doesn't, the world remains the same.

People will not admit though especially people that are addicted, they don't want to be view like they are doing bad things as soicity doesn't allow some people engage friendly with gambling and when they notice their ways, they give excuses of gambling for fun meanwhile that's a lie. If the casino is seeing that as fun, they wouldn't have requestsed to see some.

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Quote from: Julien_Olynpic on August 31, 2024, 01:06:27 AM

Many people claim that they play for fun. I honestly still doubt it, although I admit that it is possible. After all, in most cases you lose, how can you get pleasure from that? When a person loses, he gets disappointed. Often he has a desire to win back and this can lead to addiction. But in the end, in most cases you still will not experience pleasure. I would say that people need strong emotions, and not pleasure from the game.

To me, the fun in the game of gambling is when the players has no value to loose and it would be more interesting if the players could win to multiply their wagers at most cases but it is apparently impossible because winning in gambling is based on luck.

If we prioritize fun in gambling, why then do we not celebrate every outcome at the end we looses? Of course it is impossible because we have lost values which we actually staked in other to gain more but the result turned against us.

If I must play a game with the prior of fun, the I am not staking my money on it or probably a demo game would be okay for the context.

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Quote from: I_Anime on September 01, 2024, 02:05:09 PM

Quote from: mirakal on August 30, 2024, 11:05:25 PM

I couldn't agree more with those gamblers saying that they gamble just for fun because the truth is that people gamble in the hope of multiplying their money. But from what we have witnessed and seeing the sentiment of the majority, we definitely see that they feel disappointed when losing. Which is not really the behavior of gamblers who just think about entertaining themselves. A real gambler never seeks winning but pleasure and fun.

Hearing the news that some people committed suicide and crimes can also prove that my statement is right. Maybe I'm wrong, but what I've seen is enough to say that gamblers are here for money, not for fun.

I also wanted to hear opinions from others.

Most people are just using that mindset to coverup that they are gambling for fun and pleasure, while deep down they know that is all about the multiplying of their money part , just as you said how can you be gambling for fun and you are feeling disappointed because someone that's really gambling for fun will always use amount they can afford to lose not the other way round, so that they can easily mine on when the game to goes their way . Because only those are gambling with the aim to multiply their money will gamble with what they can't afford and will keep gambling whenever they have experience a loss just to win it back.

There's no exemption to this and majority of gamblers would really be having this kind of approach or thinking on the moment that they do play gambling. It would really be just that too impossible
that you wont really be longing for having those winnings on which this is something our main priority when or on the time that we do gamble. It is really just that there would really be individuals
who are really that good when it comes to self control and discipline. People would really be only differentiated on the time that they will really be that wary about their actions.
There would really be those people who are really that too greedy and there are those people who are really that conservative on the things that they are really that dealing on with.
Its not something that we could really be able to avoid greed but it do all matters about self control.

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People who do not put feelings into sports betting or other gambling know very well that they will not win in the long run. So, getting their hopes up that they will play and make a profit is a serious mistake that they should not make. And you don't have to be a genius, anyone can start playing today and play for a month, then look at the profits vs. losses and you will realize that it is impossible to make a profit in the world of gambling while the person is playing. Now, when a person starts to become addicted to gambling and puts feelings into it, they start to play with the illusion that they will make a profit. When they lose, they think that the next day they will be luckier and will be able to win. The next day comes and they lose again and they keep playing until they lose everything.

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Quote from: mirakal on August 30, 2024, 11:05:25 PM

Hearing the news that some people committed suicide and crimes can also prove that my statement is right. Maybe I'm wrong, but what I've seen is enough to say that gamblers are here for money, not for fun.

I also wanted to hear opinions from others.

Gamblers can lie about what are their motives or intentions to play but their actions betray them they may say that they are playing for fun but if you check their face and their action they are gearing to make money, this is one of the reasons why some gamblers fall into addiction they are not being honest, by being honest with themselves they can address what's wrong with how they play.
We have to always reflect on how we play if we want to be safe from gambling.

Many people prefer to hide the fact that they gamble, because that way they can gamble without other people asking them things like if they are winning, why they are gambling, addiction. So people prefer to hide the fact that they gamble and when they are addicted they are only helped when they are seriously addicted, this is because it is difficult for a person addicted to gambling to admit that they are addicted.

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Quote from: mirakal on August 30, 2024, 11:05:25 PM

I couldn't agree more with those gamblers saying that they gamble just for fun because the truth is that people gamble in the hope of multiplying their money. But from what we have witnessed and seeing the sentiment of the majority, we definitely see that they feel disappointed when losing. Which is not really the behavior of gamblers who just think about entertaining themselves. A real gambler never seeks winning but pleasure and fun.

Hearing the news that some people committed suicide and crimes can also prove that my statement is right. Maybe I'm wrong, but what I've seen is enough to say that gamblers are here for money, not for fun.

I also wanted to hear opinions from others.

Most people are just using that mindset to coverup that they are gambling for fun and pleasure, while deep down they know that is all about the multiplying of their money part , just as you said how can you be gambling for fun and you are feeling disappointed because someone that's really gambling for fun will always use amount they can afford to lose not the other way round, so that they can easily mine on when the game to goes their way . Because only those are gambling with the aim to multiply their money will gamble with what they can't afford and will keep gambling whenever they have experience a loss just to win it back.

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