Topic: The space launchings aren't putting food on your table. - page 14. (Read 10653 times)

All that is required to leave low orbit is simply to increase velocity.  That's called "a rocket burn."

That's done all the time.

Guess you are wrong yet again.

A very good read on revolutionizing space technology, and how/why we need to get to Mars:

http://waitbutwhy.com/2015/08/how-and-why-spacex-will-colonize-mars.html

All written from a SpaceX perspective, but since NASA contracts SpaceX, it's still on topic.

Well, people figured out 50 years ago how to put satellites in orbit. I guess that almost no idiot thinks that you need to spend grillions to reinvent that.

What would probably be helpful for some reasonable return on those grillions: NASA figuring out a way to have humans circling the earth safely in low earth orbit. Even better; finding a way to leave low orbit, something they haven´t managed for over 40 years now.

It keeps idiots at bay. Simple as that. If idiots understood what space launches do then the industry would be filled with trolling idiots - just like here in this forum.

No space launch, no work, no food. EVERYTHING you do today is because of what satellites are doing up there. They beep boop boop away just so can idiot humans - not necessarily like you - can question their beep boop boop.

There are things what we have to do today and wait for the "rewards" for a long time. Space exploration is one of these things. When you plant a new orchard you might not need it immediately, it's not even useful for years but you know that once in the future you will need fruits from those trees. As I said same thing applies to space exploration. One day it will be very much needed and we must be prepared and must have the necessary technology and knowledge in hand.

You're an idiot if you think the moon landings were fake.

Next, there is certainly a way in which rocket launches are essential to putting food on your table.  Because were an asteroid to hit the earth, one effect would be for atmospheric dust to block sunlight for years.  Hence, all crops would die and there would be no food on your table.  Then, you would die.

The only way to prevent you from dying would be to have rockets that could launch, and divert incoming asteriods.  This is an active area of study and research.

That is one reasons space trips are needed for the human race.

We don't actually, it's becoming more and more difficult to get this stuff out of the earth nevermind what damage it could do to the environment, soon it's going to be far easier to launch something into space to grab the asteroids, anyway, since you're in denial I won't bother trying to spend hours convincing you.

I did do my research. I know that but we already have enough of that so it's pointless to keep looking for more and more.

It's not just precious metals and gold and silver isn't just used for Jewellery, it's used plenty often in electronics and dentistry too, but then again, you'd know that if you'd have done your research.

When man created the wheel, there was a needed point. He thought he needed to find a way to transport things...

If you knew the results of research before you were to do it, the research itself wouldn't be necessary.  The point of research is to learn something knew about the world. You may learn new things about the planet or the universe. The problem is most of the research papers are hidden by institutions and copyright laws. You can always question if a certain research needs funding.

And what are we gonna do with those precious materials? Pawn them? And then what are the buyers going to do with the materials after they've bought it from the owner? Pawn it again? These materials need to be used for something useful to mankind or they're just sitting around doing nothing. That's why I laughed in my girlfriend's face when she said she wanted me to buy her a diamond ring as an engagement ring. It's not happening. It's pointless and useless and I could just buy her a swavorski ring and lie and say it's a diamond. She wouldn't know the difference.

Really?  (yawn....)

 Apollo - NASA Manned Lunar Program (1963 - 1972)
Cassini - NASA/European Space Agency Mission to Saturn (1997)
Chandrayaan-1 - ISRO (India) Orbiter to the Moon (2007)
Chang'e 1 - CAST (China) Orbiter to the Moon (2007)
Chang'e 2 - CAST (China) Orbiter to the Moon (2010)
Chang'e 3 - CSNA (China) Lander and Rover to the Moon (2013)
Clementine - DoD/NASA Lunar Mapping Mission (1994)
CONTOUR - NASA Fly-by Mission to three Comet Nuclei (2002)
Dawn - NASA Asteroid Ceres and Vesta Orbiter (2007)
Deep Impact - NASA Rendezvous and Impact with Comet Tempel 1 (2005)
Deep Space 1 (DS1) - NASA Flyby Mission to asteroid 1992 KD (1998)
Deep Space 2 - NASA Penetrator Mission to Mars (1999)
Galileo - NASA Mission to Jupiter (1989)
Genesis - NASA Solar Wind Sample Return (2001)
Giotto - ESA Mission to Comets Halley and Grigg-Skjellerup (1985)
Hayabusa (Muses-C) - ISAS (Japan) Sample Return Mission to Asteroid Itokawa (2003)
Hiten - ISAS Flyby and Orbiter Mission to the Moon (1990)
Huygens - NASA/European Space Agency Mission to Saturn's satellite Titan (1997)
ICE (ISEE-3) - NASA Mission to Comet Giacobini-Zinner (1978)
Kaguya (SELENE) - JAXA (Japan) Orbiter to the Moon (2007)
Luna - Soviet Lunar Missions (1959 - 1976)
Lunar Orbiter - NASA Lunar Mapping Missions (1966 - 1967)
Lunar Prospector - NASA Global Orbiter Mission to the Moon (1998)
Magellan - NASA Venus Radar Mapping Mission (1989)
Mariner 2 - NASA Venus flyby (1962)
Mariner 4 - NASA Mars flyby (1964)
Mariner 5 - NASA Venus flyby (1967)
Mariner 6 - NASA Mars flyby (1969)
Mariner 7 - NASA Mars flyby (1969)
Mariner 9 - NASA Mars orbiter (1971)
Mariner 10 - NASA Mission to Venus and Mercury (1973)
Mars Climate Orbiter - NASA Orbiter Mission to Mars (1998)
Mars Exploration Rover Opportunity - NASA Rover Mission to Mars (2003)
Mars Exploration Rover Spirit - NASA Rover Mission to Mars (2003)
Mars Express - ESA Mars Orbiter and Lander (2003)
Mars Global Surveyor - NASA Global Orbiter Mission to Mars (1996)
Mars Observer - NASA Mission to Mars (1992)
2001 Mars Odyssey - NASA Orbiter Mission to Mars (2001)
Mars Pathfinder - NASA Environmental Survey Mission to Mars (1996)
Mars Polar Lander - NASA Lander Mission to Mars (1999)
Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter - NASA Orbiter Mission to Mars (2005)
Mars Science Laboratory - NASA Rover Mission to Mars (2011)
Mars 96 - Russian Orbiter and Lander Mission to Mars (1996)
MESSENGER - NASA Orbiter to Mercury (2004)
NEAR - NASA Rendezvous Mission to Near-Earth Asteroid (1996)
New Horizons - NASA Pluto Kuiper Belt Flyby (2006)
Nozomi (Planet-B) - ISAS (Japan) Orbiter Mission to Mars (1998)
Phobos - Soviet Missions to Mars (1988)
Pioneer Venus - NASA Orbiter/Probes to Venus (1978)
Pioneer 10 - NASA Jupiter flyby (1972)
Pioneer 11 - NASA Jupiter flyby (1973)
Ranger - NASA Lunar Impact Missions (1964 - 1965)
Rosetta - ESA Rendezvous Mission to Comet Churyumov-Gerasimenko (2004)
Sakigake - Japanese ISAS mission to Comet Halley (1985)
SMART 1 - ESA Orbiter to the Moon (2003)
Stardust - NASA Coma Sample Return Mission to Comet P/Wild 2 (1999)
Suisei - Japanese ISAS mission to Comet Halley (1985)
Surveyor - NASA Lunar Lander Missions (1966 - 1968)
Ulysses - NASA/ESA Mission to study the solar wind via Jupiter (1990)
Vega 1 - Soviet mission to Venus and Comet Halley (1984)
Vega 2 - Soviet mission to Venus and Comet Halley (1984)
Venera - Soviet Missions to Venus (1967 - 1983)
Venus Express - ESA Orbiter to Venus (2005)
Viking - NASA Orbiters/Landers to Mars (1975)
Voyager - NASA Missions to Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, and beyond (1977)
Zond - Soviet Lunar Missions (1965 - 1970)

Well, apart from the ISS they´ve given up on circling the earth in low orbit because they´re not even capable of doing that safely so I don´t really see them venturing further afield this century.

http://kearth101.cbslocal.com/2011/07/21/list-stuff-we-use-everyday-that-was-invented-from-the-space-program/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asteroid_mining

You'd have to be a complete moron to not understand why space travel is important, we're running out of resources on earth and there's an absolute abundance of raw materials up in space just waiting to be collected, all we need to do is figure out how to get there and back efficiently and we'll not only be rich but it will benefit mankind as we won't have to worry about consuming any rare materials anymore.

By the way, there's plenty more about this on the web dating back quite far, one asteroid spotted by NASA was estimated to have almost 1 trillion dollars worth of precious metals inside it, this is partly why there are private companies like SpaceX making a move to build rockets now and why having a re-usable rocket that's a lot cheaper than all these expensive government space programs is so important. You also have water on the moon being found and ice in asteroids etc. which means that you could sustain life out there if you had to long term.

Please give works cited, signed and dated.

Compare this:

Annual budget of NASA: $18 billion
Annual defense budget of the USA: $600 billion

Annual budget of Roskosmos: $2.25 billion
Annual defense budget of Russia: $60 billion

Now tell me which one is wasteful expense here.

why should we care about resolving wars either when we need to have resources through  mining the space. unless you want them to mined your country and exploit it the first.
we can't solve our own country's conflict,  wars is business for them.

Research is necessary but only when there's a point. I have yet to be given one beneficial thing society got out of these launchings. Please tell me what we got out them.