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legendary
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October 22, 2024, 02:49:35 PM
I did a quick review of your posts in this thread, and I could not find the specific reference that was in my head, so it could be possible that I read too much into your seeming maniacal pursuit for topicality and your seeming negativism in regards to calling the forum a spamforum, and perhaps I also mixed some of your sentiment up with the sentiment of other members who seem to be on the same side as you in terms of pursuing the idea of absolute categories of off-topicness in regards to the pushups thread, as if the thread being allowed to stay within bitcoin areas of the forum after already achieving 179 pages were even close to being as important of a violation of "categories" as it is being made out to be.

"Maniacal"? LOL

You're the one posting massive walls of text in pursuit of... something, even though nothing would really change for anyone in that thread if it was on the correct board. Other than perhaps some users not getting paid for signatures.

As for negativism towards the forum, I dare you to read the flagship board of this forum - Bitcoin Discussion - and report back with your findings. If you read 100 most recent threads there top to bottom and still think this is not a shithole of a spamforum, I'll concede that it is the forum that we deserve and will refrain from calling it a shithole until next time.
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October 22, 2024, 02:33:25 PM
Those of you who talk about push ups don't have a clue. As I said, doing 100 push-ups a day is stupid. What's even more stupid is to have a thread where they report, and there is no way to check that what they report is true, when many of those who participate wear a paid signature. Do you want to do push-ups? Better use this:

https://www.100pushups.net/

This programme, instead of doing the bullshit 100 push ups a day, trains you to be able to do them. You do a set of push ups right now and you can only do 7 in a row? The programme teaches you how to get to 100:

1. It doesn't do the stupidity of training every day. Resting is just as important or more important than training for fitness.
2. Increase the workload progressively.

It seems that I know more about fitness than all of you who say you do push ups in this thread and, yes, I can assure you that doing 100 push ups a day is very stupid.

Aren't you taking the term "100 push-ups a day" too literally?
I believe that no one has a gun pointed at their head to force them to do this every day and do 100 push-ups in a row.

Furthermore, we all know that Chuck Norris can do 100 push-ups every hour. In fact, there are those who say that when Chuck Norris does push-ups, he doesn't lift his own weight. He pushes the planet.  Roll Eyes
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October 22, 2024, 10:46:13 AM
Well, I'm going to make a summary and I think I'll leave you to discuss it because I'm not going to give it any more thought.
If you are going to quit your own discussion then what is the point to keep it unlock? Haven't you had enough with the thread?

Interestingly, [...] your health.
It's impressive [?] how confidently you assert your knowledge, but true wisdom often lies in recognizing the limits of one's understanding [of course you don't have one, haven't you?]. If you consider others to be ignorant, you might be overlooking the value of diverse perspectives and experiences that could enrich your knowledge. Embracing humility and curiosity is far more enlightening than clinging to the idea that you hold all the answers. In fact, it's often those who think they know it all who are the most blind to their own ignorance.
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October 22, 2024, 10:21:04 AM
The thread is about pushups, so who gives any shits about the other aspects of physical fitness that you are mentioning.. Sure some of those kinds of ideas have come up in the thread in the last 8.5 months, yet many times members attempt to mostly redirect our discussion towards pushups, so if there is some desire to create a topic about some other kind of exercise, physical fitness or whatever, else then so be it.  We largely just focus on pushups in that thread with merely some incidental mentioning of some other topics that might relate to other exercises, the advantages disadvantages or resistance exercises versus cardio or perhaps some sideline discussions of nutrition and/or sleep.. but still mostly pushups and our hoping that bitcoin prices go to $100k sooner or later, remains as most of the focus of that particular thread discussion.
Those of you who talk about push ups don't have a clue. As I said, doing 100 push-ups a day is stupid. What's even more stupid is to have a thread where they report, and there is no way to check that what they report is true, when many of those who participate wear a paid signature. Do you want to do push-ups? Better use this:

https://www.100pushups.net/

You can spin matters all that you like.  This forum's pushup thread is not just about pushups.  It is about pushups, BTC and the price... Yeah, we focus on pushups in that thread, yet the activity is still within the context of bitcoin and even seems to be related to proof of work.. even though no one is going to know if we actually did the work beyond ourselves.. the ones claiming to do the daily-ish pushups. 

Interesting juxtaposition of ideas, and sure you can disagree all that you like, yet if you claim (spin) the matter as if it is ONLY about pushups and has nothing to do with the BTC price, then you are most-likely engaged in fantasy rather than really dealing with facts on the ground that inspire men (and perhaps a woman/girl or two) to attempt to feel what it is like to do some pushups ever day or somewhere there abouts.

This programme, instead of doing the bullshit 100 push ups a day, trains you to be able to do them. You do a set of push ups right now and you can only do 7 in a row? The programme teaches you how to get to 100:

1. It doesn't do the stupidity of training every day. Resting is just as important or more important than training for fitness.
2. Increase the workload progressively.

The programme that you refer to is not what we are doing.  We are doing bitcoin to $100k pushups which is a different thing from "the programme" which you are claiming to be superior.

One thing superior about our particular thread is that it is is within the context of talking about pushups and trying to do pushups every day until the BTC price reaches $100k.  Is such a thing even possible for real people?  If you are a real person, do you want to give it a shot?   Go ahead.  Try it.  It is not so easy, especially trying to keep in mind the fact that you are doing pushups and also wishing the BTC price gets to fucking $100k as soon as possible so that you don't have to be committed to doing them every day.  It's a bit of a unique angle, and perhaps a wee bit difficult for guys to understand and/or appreciate unless they are actually doing the pushups rather than theorizing about how pushups supposedly does not relate to BTC and/or the BTC price.

It seems that I know more about fitness than all of you who say you do push ups in this thread and, yes, I can assure you that doing 100 push ups a day is very stupid.

It sounds like you are making up your supposed level of knowledge about pushups, since the level of knowledge that you have both about pushups and how they relate to the BTC price going up to $100k is more likely understood by going through the experience rather than merely talking about it.  Get on the ground and do 100 pushups and then tell me that you still know more than the guys who have been doing pushups in that thread for several months and some of the guys in the ballpark of 8 months or more.

And to have whiners on here saying it's going to affect their health negatively to have the thread moved to off topic when it's only focused on pushups is really stupid.

I am not going to claim to know how each guy is affected and/or motivated to do pushups  or to participate based on the idea of pushups being connected to BTC and/or the BTC price, yet I suspect that there are a decent number of guys who have been affected by pushups being brought into the bitcoin world and also to have the idea of daily pushups (aspiring to 100 per day) being connected to the BTC price going to $100k (or not).

The supposed improvement from doing 100 pushups a day, if any, is very limited.

1) It's only anaerobic exercise (maybe a little aerobic if you do them in a row).

Many guys are really only able to do somewhere in the ballpark of 15-30 pushups in a row, depending on how fast they do them or if they do them in good form.  It is quite difficult to get up to even 50 pushups in a row when trying to do them fast, so theorizing about how many pushups a guy is able to do in a row is a wee bit different than seeing how guys are able to do pushups in the real world and potentially even trying to do pushups yourself to find out that they are not as easy as they seem to be.

2) It doesn't increase workload.
3) It does not rest the muscles (essential).
4) It only works a specific part of the body.

I am not going to claim to know exactly the extent to which pushups might help in various ways besides just being able to do pushups, even though I would suspect that strength is improved in a variety of related areas besides just being able to do more pushups.   

It could even be the case that some guys are doing pushups just to be part of a bitcoin related activity and they may or may not really be too tied to the idea of whether pushups are helping them in any physical way, so in that sense there is a psychological effect that comes from doing pushups, especially if they are done every single day.. not easy I must repeat in telling you.  Holding bitcoin is also not easy. .including some guys continuing to buy bitcoin, too.

Your own perspective about wanting to get rid of the WO thread
Wait, what? Where did I want to get rid of WO?

I did a quick review of your posts in this thread, and I could not find the specific reference that was in my head, so it could be possible that I read too much into your seeming maniacal pursuit for topicality and your seeming negativism in regards to calling the forum a spamforum, and perhaps I also mixed some of your sentiment up with the sentiment of other members who seem to be on the same side as you in terms of pursuing the idea of absolute categories of off-topicness in regards to the pushups thread, as if the thread being allowed to stay within bitcoin areas of the forum after already achieving 179 pages were even close to being as important of a violation of "categories" as it is being made out to be.
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October 22, 2024, 09:46:31 AM
I mean nowadays, because when I registered there was a lot of spam, but someone tell me this isn't stupid.

100 Push-Ups A Day Until Bitcoin Is $100K Challenge

I had seen the thread before and I guess because of the title I hadn't stopped to read it but now I see that it is 174 pages long, a spam megathread at its best.

At first you might think that this is just a funny way of doing sport, but no, if you know anything about physical education, doing 100 push-ups a day is bollocks to begin with, but here's what's most relevant:



I imagine it's a fake, but if Satoshi really said that, in this case he said some nonsense. You can be very intelligent and say some nonsense from time to time, it's not incompatible.

And in this case, to think that doing 100 push-ups has anything to do with what happens in the price has more to do with going with a loincloth than with any rational speculation.

That does not belong to speculation, as the first comment says:

This may seem related to bitcoin speculation but it is not bitcoin speculation at all. We are not speculation on bitcoin price but to know if someone can know if he or she can go up to 100 push ups before bitcoin hit six digits. This belongs to off-topic.

I'm going to report it again to off topic. I'm sure it won't grow at the rate of 22 pages a month there.

Edit, I was going to report it and I see this:

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Old post: We generally do not moderate posts this old for on-topicness, substantiveness, multi-posting, and other "cleanliness" issues.



You can't just take anything as gibberish, be careful how meaningless/stupid you think about people's posts, First of all be in their (thread's OP) shoe and see what you will feel or how hurt you will be if someone speak ill of your post. always think before you speak ill of someone or something that is made by somebody, because they will be a particular thing that you hate/dislike and a lot of people will love it.

The thread you are calling stupid as been a source of merit to a lots of people, some people are not doing the pushups and they will post and admit that they are doing it, and they are getting merit. If you think that 100 pushups is very easy and it is weak people that engage themselves in it, I suggest you try it a day or make it your daily exercise and see how you are going to feel.

That thread is made to have fun and the thread is also encouraging people to exercise their body and maintain their physical health (so that they should be physically fit and healthy). I don't think that thread is harmful because a lot of high ranked members are also posting on the thread.
legendary
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October 22, 2024, 05:32:42 AM
Your own perspective about wanting to get rid of the WO thread

Wait, what? Where did I want to get rid of WO?
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October 22, 2024, 04:38:45 AM
Well, I'm going to make a summary and I think I'll leave you to discuss it because I'm not going to give it any more thought.
There's a better way to accept defeat and you can make do with apologizing for the mess you made and thank everybody for for kicking your sorry ass when you messed up.

The thread is about pushups, so who gives any shits about the other aspects of physical fitness that you are mentioning.. Sure some of those kinds of ideas have come up in the thread in the last 8.5 months, yet many times members attempt to mostly redirect our discussion towards pushups, so if there is some desire to create a topic about some other kind of exercise, physical fitness or whatever, else then so be it.  We largely just focus on pushups in that thread with merely some incidental mentioning of some other topics that might relate to other exercises, the advantages disadvantages or resistance exercises versus cardio or perhaps some sideline discussions of nutrition and/or sleep.. but still mostly pushups and our hoping that bitcoin prices go to $100k sooner or later, remains as most of the focus of that particular thread discussion.

Those of you who talk about push ups don't have a clue. As I said, doing 100 push-ups a day is stupid. What's even more stupid is to have a thread where they report, and there is no way to check that what they report is true, when many of those who participate wear a paid signature. Do you want to do push-ups? Better use this:

https://www.100pushups.net/

This programme, instead of doing the bullshit 100 push ups a day, trains you to be able to do them. You do a set of push ups right now and you can only do 7 in a row? The programme teaches you how to get to 100:

1. It doesn't do the stupidity of training every day. Resting is just as important or more important than training for fitness.
2. Increase the workload progressively.

It seems that I know more about fitness than all of you who say you do push ups in this thread and, yes, I can assure you that doing 100 push ups a day is very stupid.

And to have whiners on here saying it's going to affect their health negatively to have the thread moved to off topic when it's only focused on pushups is really stupid. The supposed improvement from doing 100 pushups a day, if any, is very limited.

1) It's only anaerobic exercise (maybe a little aerobic if you do them in a row).
2) It doesn't increase workload.
3) It does not rest the muscles (essential).
4) It only works a specific part of the body.
One of the problems I see you've it's that you are suffering from the idiosyncrasies of thinking you know better than everyone else. You have a good point in the full body workout and progressive exercise stuff, but you're foolish enough tho think you know it better than everyone else.

There's a saying that we where your wisdom stops is where another person's wisdom starts and it means lots of people know better than you, so you ought to stay humble and diplomatic in presenting your points and in the real sense these points you noted above should have been a simple question or suggestion on the threads of interest rather than advertising your pessimism in Meta.

I've taken my time to read through that pushup thread and seen some discussion about full body exercise, while the main focus is in pushups and BTC price reaching $100k. and you'll not see those either because you're pessimistic enough or you didn't verify your arguments before presenting them.

Grow up Don Pedro Dinero


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I am sorry. Whining? You are the whiners, you are the ones who never stop crying here. When I opened the thread I didn't imagine that it could have this repercussion and it has been because of all the whiners who are very worried about the possibility of it being moved to off topic because it seems that you can't have fun there or that it will negatively affect your health.
With your negative and childish mindset coupled with your lack of common understanding, you cannot filter out the hidden valuable contributions you were furnished with throughout the thread, instead you're limiting it to repercussions of you creating the thread. Anyways nobody was worried about anything, just you worried about not getting more recognition in the forum and ending up building a negative one. I now know you for negative controversy.
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October 22, 2024, 01:47:28 AM
Well, you are right and i can take it to be a play place where people shows their exercises at same point being so positive about the bitcoin price, with that showing their exercise and gaining physical health as they anticipates for the growth of bitcoin is also another fun part of involving oneself into bitcoin holdings or DCA since it would reduce much panic and anxiety or becoming so much desperate for the price to crosses some level were they feels so much obsesses.
The important aspect of that thread should only be the health benefits as regular exercise keeps our body system up and sound and sincerely speaking, i hardly do pushups considering my clerical activities as well.

We learn many things from childhood through sports or fun activities. It becomes easier than learning for the sake of learning. If I say from my own side, I first gained intelligence through 100 pushup threads and got an idea about bitcoin value and how the bitcoin market moves.health.

The truth of the matter is that we all look, but we see differently, what you see as harmless or something you really enjoy doing might be a pain in the ass or something stupid to another person, to me the whole drama unfolding here is uncalled for because something that might be stupid to the op or some folks here, might not be stupid to everyone, so it's best too just walk past it if you aren't interested.

Then talking of if the thread in question should be moved to off topic, to me it's not us to decide, that should be the job of the moderator, and we should try to respect their decisions even though it might not be pleasing to some, but on a sincere note, I really don't think that creating a thread because of this is called for, the best the op should have done is to report it to the moderator just as he has done already.
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October 21, 2024, 11:59:13 PM
Well, I'm going to make a summary and I think I'll leave you to discuss it because I'm not going to give it any more thought.

Interestingly, as far as I can remember, this is the thread that is getting the most pages per day of all the threads I have written, so there must be a reason for that.
Here the issue is that the thread clearly does not belong in that section and as soon as I explained the reasons, the whiners came to protest for reasons that have nothing to do with what I explain, such as:

1) But it's a funny thread, you don't get the joke, party pooper.
2) It's a thread that helps people's health.

And my answer is that those two things can, or rather, should be done off topic. My guess is that if it hasn't moved it's mainly because of the controversy, and who the OP is.

The thread is about pushups, so who gives any shits about the other aspects of physical fitness that you are mentioning.. Sure some of those kinds of ideas have come up in the thread in the last 8.5 months, yet many times members attempt to mostly redirect our discussion towards pushups, so if there is some desire to create a topic about some other kind of exercise, physical fitness or whatever, else then so be it.  We largely just focus on pushups in that thread with merely some incidental mentioning of some other topics that might relate to other exercises, the advantages disadvantages or resistance exercises versus cardio or perhaps some sideline discussions of nutrition and/or sleep.. but still mostly pushups and our hoping that bitcoin prices go to $100k sooner or later, remains as most of the focus of that particular thread discussion.

Those of you who talk about push ups don't have a clue. As I said, doing 100 push-ups a day is stupid. What's even more stupid is to have a thread where they report, and there is no way to check that what they report is true, when many of those who participate wear a paid signature. Do you want to do push-ups? Better use this:

https://www.100pushups.net/

This programme, instead of doing the bullshit 100 push ups a day, trains you to be able to do them. You do a set of push ups right now and you can only do 7 in a row? The programme teaches you how to get to 100:

1. It doesn't do the stupidity of training every day. Resting is just as important or more important than training for fitness.
2. Increase the workload progressively.

It seems that I know more about fitness than all of you who say you do push ups in this thread and, yes, I can assure you that doing 100 push ups a day is very stupid.

And to have whiners on here saying it's going to affect their health negatively to have the thread moved to off topic when it's only focused on pushups is really stupid. The supposed improvement from doing 100 pushups a day, if any, is very limited.

1) It's only anaerobic exercise (maybe a little aerobic if you do them in a row).
2) It doesn't increase workload.
3) It does not rest the muscles (essential).
4) It only works a specific part of the body.


People need to stop taking random ideas on the Internet too literally. OgNasty thought of doing pushups and encouraged everyone to follow him. To me, that's fun and healthy, because it creates an environment of patience and discipline, while it keeps a fun character.
What people have to stop thinking about is that this thread is fit for Speculation.

You have some kind of a proclamation about what other members need to "stop" thinking about?  

If you read the quote I quote, what I am doing is paraphrasing BlackHatCoiner.

The stupidest thread on Bitcointalk is probably this one. Why are you crying in Meta for a thread that has nothing to do with you?
Some people are really weird. If you are too lazy to get your ass off the couch and do push-ups, that's your problem; but don't try to stop someone else.

Hahahahaha

That is a decently good point.

No, it's not because someone who works for the forum knows that this thread does not belong in that section and the whiners are rather those of you who have come here to cry about the possibility of the thread being moved. EFS is another one like OG, who thinks the only way to exercise is to do the bullshit 100 push ups a day, and no, I have been exercising for many years and not that bullshit.

OP Don Pedro had proposed 100 farts as a substitute for pushups. .which he probably did not even end up doing.. .. which is really literally and figuratively poo pooing the ideas and practices of daily pushups.

Not as a substitute, but rather to counterbalance the negative effect you have on the price. And yes, JJG, in the OP itself is the supposed relationship that this is going to have on the price, which you could say is a joke. Whether it's serious or a joke is just as serious or just as much of a joke as saying that fart is going to have an effect on the price.

Regarding your number 3, you seem to be a wee bit presumptuous in regards to the thread being moved.  

Not presumptuous, it is a thing that is very clear from what has already been exposed and if it does not move is because of the controversy, come on, a thread where people talk about nutrition before putting the report of push ups as I have put in the previous quotes do not have to be very smart to see that it does not belong to that section.

because of your whining and the whining of a few of your supporters,

I am sorry. Whining? You are the whiners, you are the ones who never stop crying here. When I opened the thread I didn't imagine that it could have this repercussion and it has been because of all the whiners who are very worried about the possibility of it being moved to off topic because it seems that you can't have fun there or that it will negatively affect your health.
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October 21, 2024, 11:54:04 PM
I have not seen any verifiable proof that this is real. Who verified it?

I mean nowadays, because when I registered there was a lot of spam, but someone tell me this isn't stupid.

100 Push-Ups A Day Until Bitcoin Is $100K Challenge

I had seen the thread before and I guess because of the title I hadn't stopped to read it but now I see that it is 174 pages long, a spam megathread at its best.

At first you might think that this is just a funny way of doing sport, but no, if you know anything about physical education, doing 100 push-ups a day is bollocks to begin with, but here's what's most relevant:


I imagine it's a fake, but if Satoshi really said that, in this case he said some nonsense. You can be very intelligent and say some nonsense from time to time, it's not incompatible.

And in this case, to think that doing 100 push-ups has anything to do with what happens in the price has more to do with going with a loincloth than with any rational speculation.

That does not belong to speculation, as the first comment says:

This may seem related to bitcoin speculation but it is not bitcoin speculation at all. We are not speculation on bitcoin price but to know if someone can know if he or she can go up to 100 push ups before bitcoin hit six digits. This belongs to off-topic.

I'm going to report it again to off topic. I'm sure it won't grow at the rate of 22 pages a month there.

Edit, I was going to report it and I see this:

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October 21, 2024, 11:46:14 PM
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My friend, don't take this the wrong way, but you need to be more concise with your thoughts. There are times when I want to read your replies, but the fact that it'll take me a quarter to finishing reading it discourages me from starting.
If you really want to learn from JJ replies you need to learn how to exercise patience read through because his replies are always educating and informative .i have learnt alot about bitcoin by reading through alot of his messages and replies so i will urge to always read through his replies no matter how lengthy it maybe because we are all here to learn and learning requires patience .Also no matter how lengthy a replies is doesn't matter , what matter is , if it is sending a message or meaningful.it will be very disappointing to write a two line post that is not meaningful all in the name of being concise.
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October 21, 2024, 08:44:40 PM
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My friend, don't take this the wrong way, but you need to be more concise with your thoughts. There are times when I want to read your replies, but the fact that it'll take me a quarter to finish reading it discourages me from starting.

It's not like I have not heard that before, which my usual response has been that I write to the extent that I determine necessary to make whatever points that I want to make.  Sure it is possible that I might be able to read through again and make any such post shorter, but I have noticed that my posts tend to get longer rather than shorter when I read through them.

Do what you like with that, including choosing not to read through them.  Of course, you could also choose to skim. From my side, I see no reason really to proclaim that I am going to change in regards to the length of my posts, merely based on the same kind of requests to shorten that I have been frequently hearing for the past 10.5-ish years in this forum... I cannot recall ever going back to shorten or to purposefully attempt to make my posts shorter based on some member request(s).

Which part is spammy?  The pushup script is run daily, guys submit their pushup reports fairly regularly, could be daily, and so you are saying if they don't mention the bitcoin price in each of their posts then they are clogging the bitcoin related channels?  and there is not enough of a connection to BTC and/or to BTC price?
If the board is designated for "speculation about the Bitcoin price" and there is barely any mention of bitcoin price in a thread on this board, then that thread is probably on the wrong board.

If there is a board for "discussion about the Bitcoin Forum" and you start a thread there about bitcoin price and/or fitness, your thread would probably be moved. Not sure why you insist this is different so I'm gonna have to agree to disagree with you on this.

I doubt that I have anything further to say, since it seems to me that I already mostly explained my perspective to my own satisfaction at the moment.

Oh wait.. I just thought that maybe if we might concede the overall framework of the thread is described in terms of pushups and BTC speculation, so there is an overarching theme in which the BTC price motivates the doing of the pushups, yet when we post within the thread, we may well be 80% to 90% talking about various mechanisms of doing pushups, aspects of the pushup table, and even cost and benefits of pushups and other nutrition and health matters, yet the whole conversation is within an understood context that many guys are ONLY doing pushups because they are related to anticipated BTC price dynamics and also based on various cultural relevance in regards, to pushups being done in many bitcoin maximalist circles - and so there are desires to be a part of such phenomena,

and even though sometimes within the thread OgNasty seems to want to try to get credit as if he were the one and ONLY one who thought about doing pushups as a way of respecting the bitcoin price and attempting to push the BTC price up to $100k while at the same time creating additional benefits to the pushers, or that he is causing other forum members to become more healthy because he saved them due to his creation of the pushup thread, yet in the end, OgNasty was choosing to do pushups and to promote such pushups because 100 pushups per day to $100k were already being discussed in quite few bitcoin maximalist circles and not just because Satoshi told us to do pushups back in the day.. hahahahahahaha.. you fucktwats cannot even figure out a pretty obvious joke.. yeah we are engaged in pushups because Satoshi told us to do them in 2009.. and gosh I wonder how many forum members actually believe that Satoshi wrote that back in early to mid-2009... otherwise pushups are serious and also they are serious kind of proof of work attempting to connect the real world with bitcoin price aspirations.. whether through hope for $100k to come sooner rather than later or to potentially contribute towards upwards pressures on BTC prices to have greater odds of going up to $100k more surely and/or more quickly.

Using the thread title or some subliminal message sounds quite bad as an excuse even on this shithole of a spamforum.
You are pretty negative.  Maybe you should do some pushups, cheer yourself up, potentially contribute towards your thinking about bitcoin reaching $100k instead of dumb ideas about whether some members might be getting more merits than they deserve and considerations like that?
I don't think I said anything about merits.

I thought that merits and signature campaigns were part of the motive to have topics falling into an appropriate category.. .so even if you might have been saying that you are concerned about topicality, there are plenty of other thoughts about merits and signatures and even about OgNasty.. to the extent that he is even very relevant.. but yeah stating disparate treatment based on all the status that OgNasty supposedly has, and I personally am not even against the idea of sometimes longer term forum members not being scrutinized as closely as a newbie member.. yet I am having doubts that OgNasty was even getting special treatment in this case since even if most of our discussion has been about doing pushups, there still remains an actual connection to both bitcoin and to bitcoin price speculation rather than just being symbolic and disingenuous as several of you seem to be implying and perhaps suggesting that you are only getting concerned because the thread happens to currently be 179 pages long...

Oh and a thread is not a spam thread merely because it is long.  There is substance in that thread if you might not be just superficially looking at it, coming to conclusions about it not being sufficiently on topic and also categorically proclaiming the thread and even the forum to be spam infested.. That is coming from your negative nancy posture and not from this here cat.. even if you have not spoken about those other rationales to hate on the pushups and bitcoin to $100k thread..

I already did 3 pushups, that's my monthly quota, can't get too cheery.

Well that's a good start and better than nothing.  I was not used to doing pushups either prior to getting involved in the thread, even though I am thinking that I did some pushups right before the pushup thread since there were a few posts in the WO thread prior to OgNasty creating the pushups thread.  I am thinking that I might not have had really done pushups for more than 10 years prior to getting involved in the thread, yet another thing is that the pushups became way more than just something to do here or there, but instead daily, even though even I am not sure if I can keep; doing them once the BTFC price reaches or exceeds $100k which seems to be a question in the heads of several guys doing pushups in terms of whether they are going to be able to continue.. They are not fun to do .. but they are connected to bitcoin, connected to the price and connected to a kind of culture and phenomena (and perhaps bags) that we would like to pump along the side of our doing pushups every single day.  Even if you might be a girl.. you can do pushups.. and more than 3 per month - perhaps try to do 3 sets per day and 3-4 pushups per set at least and work your way up to more... .. it is not easy. .but it is part of being a bitcoiner.  .. even satoshi said to do pushups more than 15 years ago.. as far as the evidence that we currently know about various things that satoshi said..

I have not looked at Don Pedro's new trolling (and/or attention seeking) thread
[...]Don Pedro's thread seems problematic
And here we go. This is why we can't have nice things.

There is always going to be some differences of opinion and even some members wanting to take matters to higher and higher levels, and I am not necessarily exempt from those kinds of devolutions in topics or even difference of opinion regarding which things are "nice things."  

Your own perspective about wanting to get rid of the WO thread seems that you may also be losing touch of various aspects of the forum, including that the WO thread is amongst the most special of forum threads in terms of it is like the forum's troll box.. remember BTCE and some other exchanges had troll boxes, while the WO thread has come into that role. .probably since the beginning, yet more of an acknowledgement of the WO serving such role in around early 2017 when it got moved over to its current owner....and there is nothing wrong with that thread, even though you and some of the other whiners (maybe whining for variations of differing reasons) are negative on that thread too.
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October 21, 2024, 03:36:20 PM
Which part is spammy?  The pushup script is run daily, guys submit their pushup reports fairly regularly, could be daily, and so you are saying if they don't mention the bitcoin price in each of their posts then they are clogging the bitcoin related channels?  and there is not enough of a connection to BTC and/or to BTC price?

If the board is designated for "speculation about the Bitcoin price" and there is barely any mention of bitcoin price in a thread on this board, then that thread is probably on the wrong board.

If there is a board for "discussion about the Bitcoin Forum" and you start a thread there about bitcoin price and/or fitness, your thread would probably be moved. Not sure why you insist this is different so I'm gonna have to agree to disagree with you on this.

Using the thread title or some subliminal message sounds quite bad as an excuse even on this shithole of a spamforum.

You are pretty negative.  Maybe you should do some pushups, cheer yourself up, potentially contribute towards your thinking about bitcoin reaching $100k instead of dumb ideas about whether some members might be getting more merits than they deserve and considerations like that?

I don't think I said anything about merits.

I already did 3 pushups, that's my monthly quota, can't get too cheery.

I have not looked at Don Pedro's new trolling (and/or attention seeking) thread
[...]
Don Pedro's thread seems problematic

And here we go. This is why we can't have nice things.
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My friend, don't take this the wrong way, but you need to be more concise with your thoughts. There are times when I want to read your replies, but the fact that it'll take me a quarter to finish reading it discourages me from starting.
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October 21, 2024, 01:47:15 PM
Pushups are lame anyway. They are for the weak. Real men do pull-ups. Do 100 pull-ups and see how bitcoin will react. I guarantee it, it will rocket to the moon and even make Elon jelly.

You are making either the ONLY one true scottsman fallacy or the fallacy of elitism, which I doubt too many of us are engaging int pushups in order to be elite, even if we might be striving to get stronger.. and largely pushups should be something that anyone can do, even if some folks may need to modify them and build up to some kind of a quantity of pushups that demonstrate their strength and/or their improving strength.

Surely as any of us have become older, certain kinds of exercises become more and more difficult to carry out, so it seems quite impractical to proclaim that pullups to be a more genuine and/or appropriate exercise, including that there may well be a lot of guys who cannot do pull ups and/or have never been able to do pullups, and to expect to get any benefit from something that is not even possible to do or is really difficult to do in even small quantities comes off as quite impractical..and even as a way to frustrate the whole idea of pushups having way more of an everyman kind of an effect (even if they might be a bit guy-oriented, since women likely would not on their own choose pushups as their chosen exercise - to the extent that women even want to exercise and/or are socialized to exercise).

There are a lot of practical aspects of pushups, even if they might not be a total body exercise, they get quite a few parts and they can be modified in either the direction of easier or more difficult.

Another thing about pushups is that it is the exercise that had somewhat gone viral in regards to linking it with a desire for the BTC price to get to $100k and potentially to be more healthy (and/or strong) once or if the BTC price reaches such targeted price point... so yeah, if the target is 100 pushups a day until BTC gets to $100k, there are quite a few guys who may not even be able to start out at such quantity of pushups per day, and they have to work up to it... Symbolic?  I am not sure, because anyone who actually starts to include a daily pushup practice soon will come to realize that pushups do not happen without purpose and thought. that also might end up reinforcing convictions about bitcoin and/or matters related to bitcoin price, since we are talking about bitcoin, not shitcoins when we are focusing on physically manifesting pushups every single day.. perhaps 100 pushups or perhaps building up to 100 and perhaps even figuring out some quantity that works for them. There were quite a few guys who conceded such difficulties in doing 100 pushups every single day, so then they might have compromised and said that they would do some 1/1000ths of the BTC price, so perhaps today doing 66, 67 or 68 pushups, yet many of those guys have not been lasting and perhaps based on thoughts that the BTC price would go to $100k faster so that they could be relieved of their daily pushups' obligation.

A few of us who mostly committed to doing pushups every single day, up until now, might have had committed to doing pushups every single day if were to really believe that it was to to take more than 8.5 months and the BTC price has still not reached $100k.. Your saying pullups are better based on a presumption that pullups are the real true Scottsman (and that pushups are too easy) is a bunch of crap baloney bullshit that presumes, lacks evidence (logic and/or facts) that doing pushups ever single day is actually an easy thing to accomplish.

By the way, I frequently suggest that guys who might either be new to pushups or who have not done pushups for a while should be trying to start with their pushups in the range of 8-12 pushups per set and around 3 sets per day and then to see how they are going to do from there in terms of how they feel when doing them and how they feel about their strength, and perhaps even whether it might make them feel different about the bitcoin price.  I had not really thought too much about whether we might be speculating about when the bitcoin price might reach $100k or what kinds of things we might do on the way to $100k to reinforce our commitment about bitcoin  (besides buying more bitcoin or otherwise just watching charts that may more may not be getting to $100k in a fast enough way).  

Guys who are ONLY capable of doing 8-12 pushups in a set may well not be able to do 1-2 pull ups either.. it is difficult to imagine.  There were some guys coming to the pushup thread and proclaiming to ONLY be able to do some small quantity of pushups, such as less than 10 pushups in a day, and I surely was asserting that guys who could not do at least 10 pushups in a day should not be allowed to have their results in the pushup table and they likely also should not even be treated seriously in terms of their contribution to the thread unless they had some kind of an explanation why they might be ONLY able to less than 10 pushups in a thread, and surely even in Phillipma1957 initial participations in the pushup thread, he was proclaiming to do planks as pushup substitutes, and sure there was some tolerance of that kind of a substitute based on his explanation why he could not do pushups, but still.. seems to be a somewhat limited case. .and gosh just thinking about pullups causes me pain and stress regarding how to build up to having something like that as something that is available to many folks rather than being ONLY a few guys capable of doing some of them, and what the fuck we want to just watch some elitist guys showing us their physical prowess without doing something that many of us could potentially and even likely (as long as we are still kicking and even not a bot) carry out ourselves.

Many of us likely realize that it can be difficult to do pull ups, even in terms of having equipment, which at minimum is some kind of a bar or grip to be able to grab onto do attempt them.. .. and I would think that sometimes building up to being able to do more pullups might be assisted by various kinds of equipment that might help to support the weight and perhaps even targeting 8-12 pullups with assistance from the equipment and then trying to work up to a fitness status of being able to do pullups without assistance, which also seems to be a bit of an elitist kind of exercise.. and no fucking way are normie bitcoiners who are in the pushup challenge proclaiming to be elitist or even very athletic beyond the pushups that also focus and/or related to the BTC price.  We can almost do pushups anywhere if we are not overly shy about it, even though I personally prefer to not have an audience.

Pushups have a bit of a potential for broad appeal, and many of us are proclaiming that our chosen exercise is one that anyone can do, anywhere and even have some connectedness to why we are doing the pushups related to the bitcoin price. .. and yeah concededly pushups as a chosen exercise to seem to be a bit male-focused - even though they could be modified to be more female acceptable, even though I would consider that many females would likely not even choose pushups as their chosen exercise since many females are not as much into building strength in their upper body as men tend to be more naturally inclined to want to build their strength in such a way (and even have their physic to be seeable through the outline of their upper body)..  

It seems less common for a women to want to do pushups and even more rare for a woman to want to include pullups as a chosen "daily" exercise.. which brings us back to the pullups as elitist point, not only for men, but even more for women, which I doubt that trying to be some kind of an elitist athlete is even close to the reason why many of us are participating in the pushups til $100k thread..  Yeah sure there might be some guys who have specialized goals, yet it seems that many of us are largely going through a kind of a process of doing pushups and connecting our daily activities to hopeful UPpity moves in the BTC price, which $100k seems a somewhat "in reach" target.

Have you read the whole pushup thread or you are speculation that the thread has nothing to do with BTC prices, even though the title of the thread has a target price of $100k contained within it?
I read the last few pages. There is a couple of passing mentions of Bitcoin and its price. So at the very least the thread itself is extremely poorly moderated if it was supposed about Bitcoin but it no longer is. But more likely the thread is actually about pushups, so it shouldn't be in Speculation.

I am glad that you are such a professional analyst and figured out that the mere fact that we have the bitcoin price in the thread does not motivate the thread.  I hardly give too many shits if the thread moves, yet when I hear some of you guys proclaim that the thread is ONLY about pushups, then you seem to be purposefully ignoring the whole premise of the thread.. whether the BTC price is mentioned or not, it is the reason why many of us are doing (or claiming to do) pushups on a daily basis.. .. we don't talk about shitcoins in that thread.  Many guys question if they will continue to do pushups once the BTC price reaches $100k (if it does).  Just like DCA'ers frequently lose their interest in DCAing into bitcoin based on various movements of the BTC price, there are similar kinds of dynamics in the pushups thread... whether we say the word bitcoin or we talk about when or how BTC is getting to $100k or some other bitcoin related matter is getting to do the pushups so that we can potentially be in better shape to bang hookers, to drive our lambos and to tolerate blow without dying from it based on our being in better shape when (or if) BTC prices reach $100k..

Sure, you can proclaim the speculation is loose, and I hardly give too many shits if the thread goes to off-topic even though it logically makes less and less sense to proclaim the thread is off topic, especially the more and more several of you haters are trying to proclaim that the thread is not related to bitcoin, you are starting to sound like you are unable to appreciate the relationship of the thread to bitcoin because you are so busy worried about if some members might be receiving merits to easily or that they might get credit for their signatures in such a thread.. or maybe I am having more and more difficulties understanding why some of you give too many shits about the thread and the potential that it is ONLY loosely linked to BTC price speculations, even though the price is specifically in the title of the thread.. but no OgNasty created the thread so it must be bad... which it also seems to have taken more than 8 months for some of you to get excited about the thread since the thread is quite popular.. yet I really doubt that OgNasty had a lot to do with the thread becoming popular beyond his regularly participating in it.. and sometimes having a bit of his annoying self come out, yet in the end, the thread still does not seem to be about OgNasty as much as it is about connecting the doing of daily pushups to the BTC price movement.. hopefully upwardly so that many of us might want to reconsider if we want to continue to doing pushups or in some other way reconsider the matter.

Maybe if you read through the thread, you will witness so many guys who proclaim that they are ONLY doing the pushups either because of the thread or because of their goal for the BTC price to reach $100k, and many of us, including yours truly and several others in the thread, were either not doing pushups or maybe we were doing other activities prior to the thread, and likely we would not even be fucking around with doing pushups except that such pushup thread is embedded into an aspect of bitcoin culture that we would like to be a part of. .which includes that pushups related to the BTC price moving up to $100k is not ONLY on this particular forum, yet it is in other places in bitcoinlandia.. including that there could even be new forum members coming to the forum or even returning forum members who might end up seeing how extensive our pushup thread related to the BTC price has been developing, and many of those members may well become inspired to engage in pushups or otherwise engage in bitcoin or to keep their bitcoin resolve based on the thread... and yeah, there is hardly any members mentioning shitcoin and/or trading of bitcoin in the thread.. this thread seems to be a bit angled towards investing into bitcoin, investing into yourself and yeah sure perhaps some of us will give up on pushups and/or give up on bitcoin (like trade it) once the BTC price reaches $100k (if it does?), so yeah, we are not mentioning the BTC price every post or what we are going to do in relation to our BTC or our pushups once the BTC price reaches $100k  (if the BTC price reaches such level), yet the relationship of the activity to BTC, to the price to the time it will take to reach $100k is right there..even if time is a bit of an unknown there is a pretty damned decent sized inference that can be made in regards to pushups being difficult that includes a desire and hope that the BTC price reaches $100k sooner rather than later. .and surely many of the guys participating in the thread would likely admit that they did not believe it would take so long for BTC prices to NOT reach $100k.

If the shoe was on the other foot I bet most of the apologists here would be arguing against the thread. In fact I can recognize quite a few usernames having been vocal against off topic or spammy threads on bitcoin boards.

Which part is spammy?  The pushup script is run daily, guys submit their pushup reports fairly regularly, could be daily, and so you are saying if they don't mention the bitcoin price in each of their posts then they are clogging the bitcoin related channels?  and there is not enough of a connection to BTC and/or to BTC price?

Using the thread title or some subliminal message sounds quite bad as an excuse even on this shithole of a spamforum.

You are pretty negative.  Maybe you should do some pushups, cheer yourself up, potentially contribute towards your thinking about bitcoin reaching $100k instead of dumb ideas about whether some members might be getting more merits than they deserve and considerations like that?

It is kind of funny (or ironic) that Don Pedro's thread seems to speculate about the pushup thread not affecting prices, which seems to give greater credence towards the pushup thread being a BTC price speculation thread.
If I say that the flat earth thread is affecting Bitcoin price, that doesn't make the flat earth thread a "price speculation" thread.

I suppose that a flat earth believer could try to make some kind of a connection with their beliefs about the earth being flat and/or other conspiracies and attempt to relate those kinds of conspiracies to bitcoin price.  The flat earth thread did not make any such attempt to connect flat earth to bitcoin price, or not that I recall, so your comparison seems a wee bit out of place.  

I have not looked at Don Pedro's new trolling (and/or attention seeking) thread, but sure arguably, there could be some connection to speculation (even though the topic of Don Pedro's thread comes off as quite dumb and disingenuine on the surface.. since he is likely not even believing what he is proclaiming) to be suggesting that the pushup thread is suppressing BTC prices.

Don Pedro's thread seems problematic because it seems to be a trolling thread as compared with the pushup thread did come out directly to suggest some value in doing pushups on a daily basis until the BTC prices reach $100k, and so even if many of us would not be proclaiming that doing pushups would move the BTC price in either direction, there is still an implied message that members could get some value and benefit in the performance of pushups on a daily basis during the time it takes BTC prices to reach $100k.. and the topic of the thread can also be used to inspire guys to buy more bitcoin and hold more bitcoin and not to sell their bitcoin prior to the BTC price reaching $100k, and surely a bit of an implication that BTC prices going up to $100k and beyond was around the corner, and potentially our lives would be improved by doing daily pushups in the process of waiting for the BTC price to go up as contrasted to if we were to not do daily pushups.

Another angle too could be considered that if doing daily pushups might contribute towards more HODLing and/or buying of BTC which also could end up in less BTC available when dumping, and so upwards pressures on the BTC price, even though maybe the amount of upwards pressures on the BTC price would not be sufficient enough to really make any kind of meaningful difference  - even though some guys might still speculate the extent to which their doing pushups, resulting in holding and buying more BTC results in sufficient upwards BTC price pressures to make any kind of a difference in the BTC price going up faster and/or further.

People believe in many superstitions. Many football players enter the field with their right foot, as they believe that this will make them successful in the game. Others say she has a pair of lucky panties, and when they wear them everything goes well. Some I believe you have to do a certain kind of thing before something, to be successful. Anyway, the list is huge.
That's different: doing something because it influences your own performance is a placebo, and those are proven to work. Doing something to make something else happen isn't going to work.
In both cases it is either superstition or placebo.

Many football fans wear a certain piece of clothing because they believe that when they wear that piece of clothing, the team wins. And when there isn't one, the team loses. She came to this conclusion through a series of random events, which she believes are related.

Of course, having a placebo that helps stimulate your brain to do something for you is a positive thing.

Someone can create this kind of placebo, by saying "every day I have to buy $100 worth of BTC, otherwise I have to do 100 push-ups of the difference." Does it make sense to me? Maybe not. But to the person who came up with this idea, maybe it does, I don't know.

There could be some reinforcement of resolve to continue to hold bitcoin that is reinforced by doing the pushups every day.. so if there comes more resolve (and a reminder) to continue to hold the BTC and to toughen up about the  BTC price, then perhaps more guys holding, becoming stronger and building their lettuce hands into stronger bodily features is going to contribute towards the BTC price going up since there is reinforcement every single day.. but yeah in the whole scheme of things is there any affect that actually causes the BTC price to reach $100k faster or does it just make some of us feel better in the process of getting to $100k.

Pushups are lame anyway. They are for the weak. Real men do pull-ups.
You know nothing if you say pushup exercise are for the weak or you think push-up is very easy to do? May be thats is your thought, for it will be very difficult for a week person to do push-ups and do it properly if you think push-up is easy try and do 100 push-up in day let me see if you can continue the next day and you should also know that push-up exercise is not only the exercise that is been done in that thread for you can also add other exercises if chooses and stop referring push-up exercise as a LAME exercise that's is supposed to be done by those that are weak.

My level of physical soreness has slowly come down through my last 260 days of doing daily pushups, and for sure the first few months I was getting pains in all kinds of body parts that did not exactly seem to be directly related to pushups, and several of those pains either went away or became easier to deal with and/or of course, physical strength improved too... which also can be related to bitcoin, bitcoin price and even relating being able to do tough things to being able to hold bitcoin until $100k and perhaps even being able to continue to buy bitcoin until $100k rather than not doing anything in the process of waiting and/or hoping for BTC prices to go to $100k.
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October 21, 2024, 01:14:40 PM
@OGNasty that "email" from satoshi, while obviously a joke to us that know, could be misleading to new folks. i think you should add something very noticeable and in the strongest terms that that email is fake so there are no misunderstanding.

yes i have no sense of humor.
This is a good point and adding a footnote will clear the doubt. Who knows someone else will come and make it a big issue.
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October 21, 2024, 11:14:39 AM
Well, you are right and i can take it to be a play place where people shows their exercises at same point being so positive about the bitcoin price, with that showing their exercise and gaining physical health as they anticipates for the growth of bitcoin is also another fun part of involving oneself into bitcoin holdings or DCA since it would reduce much panic and anxiety or becoming so much desperate for the price to crosses some level were they feels so much obsesses.
The important aspect of that thread should only be the health benefits as regular exercise keeps our body system up and sound and sincerely speaking, i hardly do pushups considering my clerical activities as well.

We learn many things from childhood through sports or fun activities. It becomes easier than learning for the sake of learning. If I say from my own side, I first gained intelligence through 100 pushup threads and got an idea about bitcoin value and how the bitcoin market moves.

Even after gaining merit from here I started gaining knowledge from forums more seriously and started learning and gaining knowledge about investing and hoddling in Bitcoin. Some post on this thread to learn something, some use it as a means to maintain their health, and some take it as a challenge to fight for their health. We should not treat this as an unimportant thread at all.
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October 21, 2024, 09:48:46 AM
Push ups *shrug* they're not bad, everyone has to start somewhere! Smiley

Pull ups are better sure but I've found burpees to be the best overall for me, although a small piece of my routine. I also manage to do them without encouraging paid spam on the main parts of the forum.  Tongue

I'm curious, if a con artist like Craig Wright had started this push-ups thread and misquoted satoshi for his own amusement, would everyone's enthusiasm and stance still be the same with it?


Miner, let's be a little bit logical here; nobody said biased moderation shouldn't be exposed, as long as it's not just an allegation rising from the perspective of a minority, maybe with some irky interrelations with an old vendetta that doesn't even involve us.
Perspective of a minority? ... You do know 1 shady person is allowed to represent as many accounts as they want on this forum, right?  And I'd go as far as to say the shadiest likely have the most... this probably leaves honest individual users being in the minority in many cases. They shouldn't be ignored.

I think if we're going to be objective about it, the thread should be in off-topic and/or signatures disabled.
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October 21, 2024, 09:22:21 AM
I think that OP is taking this too personal from the way he is still insisting that the thread should be moved to off topic, despite the criticsm from forum members who are benefiting from the training program. 100 pushups daily till bitcoin price reaches 100k could be a way for participants to stay healthy till bitcoin price reaches 100k, so that they ca see bitcoin at that 100k price in good health condition and stable mindset.

 Reporting the thread to moderator is the best thing that you have done, but creating this thread is not the best because, it does not change anything if the mod decides not to move it to off topic. It shows that you have some personal sentiment with the OP of that thread for calling his thread the most shitty he is a quality poster and a reputable member in the forum despite whatever you think of him. Our likes differs. A lot of time and effort is being put by forum members posting on that thread to keep it active.
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what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?
October 21, 2024, 09:20:50 AM

Rather the problem is that your thread is rubbish on par with you saying that Satoshi would do push ups to your request. Your campaign is famous for paying people for rubbish and in your case it is very palpable.

@OGNasty that "email" from satoshi, while obviously a joke to us that know, could be misleading to new folks. i think you should add something very noticeable and in the strongest terms that that email is fake so there are no misunderstanding.

yes i have no sense of humor.
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