Topic: The UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 Discussion Thread - page 31. (Read 17140 times)
Since the technical team of the Netherlands is very strong, success is inevitable. The Dutch team that fell before Louis van Gaal took off after he came. If you remember, they took the lead in the World Cup Qualifiers after van Gaal came. The technical team is very important. In Euro 2020, the Netherlands played bad football. In the Czechia match they were eliminated, they could not even shoot a target, this was probably the tournament where they played the worst game of their history.. They were playing a very nasty football until Delight saw red. I really like the Netherlands. There are young and promising generations. They want to give Van Gaal the World Cup as a gift to the end of his football career. Maybe they will be even better if Koeman comes, but the Legend of the Netherlands was Van Gaal and always will be.
A league intended to replace friendlies ended up with the results of friendlies games. Unpredictable, random, weird...
France will end up 4th or 3rd in best cases. England too.
Meanwhile Turkey, Greece and Lettonie are the only ones to almost guarantee the 1st place before 2 rounds from the end of the group stage.
Turkey and also Greece seem to be in the wrong league anyway. They are not a first class teams, but their opponents were only small countries with almost amateur teams (no offence to the small countries please France will end up 4th or 3rd in best cases. England too.
Meanwhile Turkey, Greece and Lettonie are the only ones to almost guarantee the 1st place before 2 rounds from the end of the group stage.
)Latvia won all 4 games, but they are in the bottom league. Positive surprises (for me) were also Norway (who are dominiating their league with difficult opponents such as Sweden and Serbia) and Bosnia (who go good results against Finland and Romania. I believe we never saw Bosnia at a larger tournament, I hope they can qualify for the next Euro Cup)
I totaly agree with your arguments. Turkey had a very bad coach. He insisted on playing very bad player like Kenan Karaman. Turkey was relegated from the League B to the League C. Afterwards, Turkey had a very bad performance in the Euro Cup. And he was eventually fired. I guess Turkey will be in League B again with the new coach Kuntz.
I am certain that Turkey is in the B league. All teams are weaker than Turkey in the group they are currently in. Turkey did not even concede a goal in the 4 games they played. Therefore, it will easily go to the B league. Turkey's target is seen as the A League. I see a young, high-quality Turkey who is a candidate for the A league in a year or two.
A league intended to replace friendlies ended up with the results of friendlies games. Unpredictable, random, weird...
France will end up 4th or 3rd in best cases. England too.
Meanwhile Turkey, Greece and Lettonie are the only ones to almost guarantee the 1st place before 2 rounds from the end of the group stage.
Turkey and also Greece seem to be in the wrong league anyway. They are not a first class teams, but their opponents were only small countries with almost amateur teams (no offence to the small countries please France will end up 4th or 3rd in best cases. England too.
Meanwhile Turkey, Greece and Lettonie are the only ones to almost guarantee the 1st place before 2 rounds from the end of the group stage.
)Latvia won all 4 games, but they are in the bottom league. Positive surprises (for me) were also Norway (who are dominiating their league with difficult opponents such as Sweden and Serbia) and Bosnia (who go good results against Finland and Romania. I believe we never saw Bosnia at a larger tournament, I hope they can qualify for the next Euro Cup)
I totaly agree with your arguments. Turkey had a very bad coach. He insisted on playing very bad player like Kenan Karaman. Turkey was relegated from the League B to the League C. Afterwards, Turkey had a very bad performance in the Euro Cup. And he was eventually fired. I guess Turkey will be in League B again with the new coach Kuntz.
Let's face it, it is not going to be something that teams will care too much about because there is nothing giving them any advantage at all, makes no sense to keep it going that way. I have to say that the fact that England played this badly could be used as a proof that no team really cares about this that much, maybe only lower level teams that try to get their rare win.
England did not win any of the four matches, which is sad and embarrassing for England. England is not a weak team. They are a very renowned and traditional team. Fans do not expect such a bad performance from them. Maybe the UEFA Nations League title isn't important to them. However, they should have performed a little better.
The players now have a few weeks of rest and after the summer they will continue with the Nations League. Normally I think the players don't care much, but in this case it could be different. The World Championship already starts in November and so you actually have an extra practice period in the remaining 2 matches of the Nations League. That looks good then. For many teams, there is little at stake. England still has something to do with its reputation after the 0-4 decline, but other countries such as Italy also disappoint after the 5-2 defeat against Germany. Where it was 5-0 by the way.
But I think the problem is not with the team but with the Nations League, where nobody has any incentive to perform well, especially on the eve of World Cup, when a players can get injured... Not only France performed terribly in Nations League, but also Germany, England, Croatia, Italy... I am sure that at World Cup these teams, except Italy of course, will have other results...
I was particularly disappointed by England's performance in France. They are a well-known team. But still, we do not see any good performance from them. Maybe they are not interested in UEFA Nations League, but it is a shame for them not to win a single match. At the same time the bonding between the players of their team does not look good to me. They will not be able to perform well in the World Cup if they cannot solve their internal problems.
Hopefully for the world cup it won't be like this again for the big teams.
Let's face it, it is not going to be something that teams will care too much about because there is nothing giving them any advantage at all, makes no sense to keep it going that way. I have to say that the fact that England played this badly could be used as a proof that no team really cares about this that much, maybe only lower level teams that try to get their rare win.
England did not win any of the four matches, which is sad and embarrassing for England. England is not a weak team. They are a very renowned and traditional team. Fans do not expect such a bad performance from them. Maybe the UEFA Nations League title isn't important to them. However, they should have performed a little better.
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England has scored only 1 goal in 4 games - only San Marino is worse with 0.
They managed to lose twice against Hungary and their 2 remaining games are Italy away and Germany at home - not the easiest draw.
They managed to lose twice against Hungary and their 2 remaining games are Italy away and Germany at home - not the easiest draw.
England performance was very poor in this tournament because many people concluded that England will defeat Hungary 3-0 to improve their points but it was so painful to see Hungary defeated England 1-0. I think, England coach need to train their players very well against their remaining matches because their performance was very poor for their past matches which is not giving their citizens joy about their current results. I think, it will be difficult for England to achieve this year title because their midfield is not too strong as before.
Honestly, I don't think Gareth Southgate can continue with the job. Gareth Southgate must resign after those humiliating results. I know that the Nations League matches aren't that important, but an important trailer for FIFA World Cup. If England doesn’t fix this team, they’ll get knocked out at group stages in the World Cup.
Southgate won't resign and it is unlikely to be sacked. He said that this (humiliating) defeat against Hungary should motivate him and the team to do better next time.I don't think personally that France and England will perform as poorly in the World Cup as they did in Nations League. The motivation and the tension there will be different. The eyes of the whole nation are on them.
But I think the problem is not with the team but with the Nations League, where nobody has any incentive to perform well, especially on the eve of World Cup, when a players can get injured... Not only France performed terribly in Nations League, but also Germany, England, Croatia, Italy... I am sure that at World Cup these teams, except Italy of course, will have other results...
I was particularly disappointed by England's performance in France. They are a well-known team. But still, we do not see any good performance from them. Maybe they are not interested in UEFA Nations League, but it is a shame for them not to win a single match. At the same time the bonding between the players of their team does not look good to me. They will not be able to perform well in the World Cup if they cannot solve their internal problems.
I don't think this competition is a true indicator of the strength of national teams, and coaches should be too worried.
It is obvious that most of the main players of England, France, Italy ... came physically and mentally exhausted to this competition and were not at the right level for these matches.
Southgate still has plenty of time to prepare his team well for what is really the only thing that matters and that is the World Cup in Qatar.
I don't think anyone takes this competition too seriously.
I agree with you that this competition is not the main focus for the top teams, however it gives some indication in what state the national teams are. I don't think the exhaustion argument is valid much here. The World Cup would normally have happened now without long break before. Also in November the top players won't have a long break before the actual competition. France and England especially should see the performance of the last games as a warning sign, they need to come up with a good plan now.It is obvious that most of the main players of England, France, Italy ... came physically and mentally exhausted to this competition and were not at the right level for these matches.
Southgate still has plenty of time to prepare his team well for what is really the only thing that matters and that is the World Cup in Qatar.
I don't think anyone takes this competition too seriously.
The fatigue factor of the top European top players who have just finished competing in the league I think is not the reason but rather the priority of the national team which is slightly lacking in this UEFA National League tournament.
With this competition, UEFA has actually prevented national teams from choosing their own opponents and preparing in their own way for major competitions such as the European and World Cups.
Instead of one or two preliminaries as before, now the national teams have to play many more games in a very short time, which brings UEFA much more money, but this system of competition is not liked by players or coaches because it is too hard and the competition itself is not too important.
I heard a rumor recently that UEFA is planning another new competition, in which the winners of continental competitions would reportedly play. This all together becomes ridiculous, I guess UEFA will start a new competition every month just to make more money
But I think the problem is not with the team but with the Nations League, where nobody has any incentive to perform well, especially on the eve of World Cup, when a players can get injured... Not only France performed terribly in Nations League, but also Germany, England, Croatia, Italy... I am sure that at World Cup these teams, except Italy of course, will have other results...
I was particularly disappointed by England's performance in France. They are a well-known team. But still, we do not see any good performance from them. Maybe they are not interested in UEFA Nations League, but it is a shame for them not to win a single match. At the same time the bonding between the players of their team does not look good to me. They will not be able to perform well in the World Cup if they cannot solve their internal problems.
England has scored only 1 goal in 4 games - only San Marino is worse with 0.
They managed to lose twice against Hungary and their 2 remaining games are Italy away and Germany at home - not the easiest draw.
This will put Southgate under immense pressure and is something he should have avoided. The World Cup is approaching and now he has even more doubts about the team selection than before.
The same can be said for France, and they are the current world champions... It's just that the Nations League is not a serious competition, but rather a warm-up, where the coach has a good opportunity to experiment with team structure and tactics under realistic conditions... That's why we see such results from the top teams...They managed to lose twice against Hungary and their 2 remaining games are Italy away and Germany at home - not the easiest draw.
This will put Southgate under immense pressure and is something he should have avoided. The World Cup is approaching and now he has even more doubts about the team selection than before.
The condition of the French team is not good. We saw the poor performance of my France team in the Euro Championship. Almost all the players on the team are stars. But their bonding with each other is weak. If current France coach Didier Deschamps cannot solve the team's internal problems, it will be difficult for France to qualify for the round-16 of the next World Cup.
But I think the problem is not with the team but with the Nations League, where nobody has any incentive to perform well, especially on the eve of World Cup, when a players can get injured... Not only France performed terribly in Nations League, but also Germany, England, Croatia, Italy... I am sure that at World Cup these teams, except Italy of course, will have other results...
Let's face it, it is not going to be something that teams will care too much about because there is nothing giving them any advantage at all, makes no sense to keep it going that way. I have to say that the fact that England played this badly could be used as a proof that no team really cares about this that much, maybe only lower level teams that try to get their rare win.
England did not win any of the four matches, which is sad and embarrassing for England. England is not a weak team. They are a very renowned and traditional team. Fans do not expect such a bad performance from them. Maybe the UEFA Nations League title isn't important to them. However, they should have performed a little better.
I think Southgate really serious for England because he don't want to see England had poor performance especially they will playing at world cup soon and actually compared to England performance during world cup qualification or euro 2020 i think they have impressive performance but i don't know why seem in Nation league England still not in the good shape however England have to forget their lost from Hungary and focus for upcoming matches against Italy and Germany that they shouldn't lose anymore because if they had bad results again then not impossible soon Southgate will be sacked
Poor performance from England on UEFA Nation League I think become bad result for Southgate because have prepare for World Cup few next months later, contrast performance from England on Euro 2020 where success lead until final and World Cup qualifier because England have consistent performance, although with UEFA Nation League is not really important I see several time defeating by other countries will be bad effect for his position as England manager. I worry with Southgate position keep extended until World Cup hold on few months later or will be finish before World Cup begin. 
Honestly I think Southgate should be more serious with this team, am already tired with their pattern of play. A country like England should not be playing like this, cause the country have alot of quality players. But sometimes I think most of the mistakes comes from the coach, he only rotates players without knowing how to use them, through out his stay with the team he don't have a first eleven team or a consistent number 10 they keep rotating the team and the numbers. That doesn't seems normal to me he need to arrange this team so that they can play to our expectations. Cause with the player they have we don't expect such poor performance from them, they really need to improve before the world cup.
I think Southgate really serious for England because he don't want to see England had poor performance especially they will playing at world cup soon and actually compared to England performance during world cup qualification or euro 2020 i think they have impressive performance but i don't know why seem in Nation league England still not in the good shape however England have to forget their lost from Hungary and focus for upcoming matches against Italy and Germany that they shouldn't lose anymore because if they had bad results again then not impossible soon Southgate will be sacked A league intended to replace friendlies ended up with the results of friendlies games. Unpredictable, random, weird...
France will end up 4th or 3rd in best cases. England too.
Meanwhile Turkey, Greece and Lettonie are the only ones to almost guarantee the 1st place before 2 rounds from the end of the group stage.
Turkey and also Greece seem to be in the wrong league anyway. They are not a first class teams, but their opponents were only small countries with almost amateur teams (no offence to the small countries please France will end up 4th or 3rd in best cases. England too.
Meanwhile Turkey, Greece and Lettonie are the only ones to almost guarantee the 1st place before 2 rounds from the end of the group stage.
)Latvia won all 4 games, but they are in the bottom league. Positive surprises (for me) were also Norway (who are dominiating their league with difficult opponents such as Sweden and Serbia) and Bosnia (who go good results against Finland and Romania. I believe we never saw Bosnia at a larger tournament, I hope they can qualify for the next Euro Cup)
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England has scored only 1 goal in 4 games - only San Marino is worse with 0.
They managed to lose twice against Hungary and their 2 remaining games are Italy away and Germany at home - not the easiest draw.
They managed to lose twice against Hungary and their 2 remaining games are Italy away and Germany at home - not the easiest draw.
England performance was very poor in this tournament because many people concluded that England will defeat Hungary 3-0 to improve their points but it was so painful to see Hungary defeated England 1-0. I think, England coach need to train their players very well against their remaining matches because their performance was very poor for their past matches which is not giving their citizens joy about their current results. I think, it will be difficult for England to achieve this year title because their midfield is not too strong as before.
Honestly, I don't think Gareth Southgate can continue with the job. Gareth Southgate must resign after those humiliating results. I know that the Nations League matches aren't that important, but an important trailer for FIFA World Cup. If England doesn’t fix this team, they’ll get knocked out at group stages in the World Cup.
Southgate won't resign and it is unlikely to be sacked. He said that this (humiliating) defeat against Hungary should motivate him and the team to do better next time.I don't think personally that France and England will perform as poorly in the World Cup as they did in Nations League. The motivation and the tension there will be different. The eyes of the whole nation are on them.
Honestly, I don't think Gareth Southgate can continue with the job. Gareth Southgate must resign after those humiliating results. I know that the Nations League matches aren't that important, but an important trailer for FIFA World Cup. If England doesn’t fix this team, they’ll get knocked out at group stages in the World Cup.
Southgate won't resign and it is unlikely to be sacked. He said that this (humiliating) defeat against Hungary should motivate him and the team to do better next time.I don't think personally that France and England will perform as poorly in the World Cup as they did in Nations League. The motivation and the tension there will be different. The eyes of the whole nation are on them.
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