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Actually, I don't think any team cares about these matches. Yes, they lost to a team by 0-4. So? This tournament is just basically a few national-friendly matches.

So, I don't think anything is going to take this tournament seriously at all. For any team to have any kind of bad performance here is not going to have any effect on the world cup performance, you know. These are just some friendly matches and the players are treating it like one.

Absolutely right.

It's basically a tournament of organized friendlies so it's literally just practice for all the teams. No way they're going to put all their effort in these matches and risk getting an injury and miss out on the real matches.

It's interesting that only Europe has this kind of tournament, I think it's because there are so many countries playing there.
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We were indeed amazed by Hungary's performance when they succeeded in slaughtering the English hosts in front of the public at Wembley Stadium, but for the England national team this is not a tournament that is taken seriously by the three lion squad so this is a natural thing if they have to admit Hungary's superiority because of us. know that they don't take this tournament seriously, especially since it's only a friendly tournament, especially since the England coach himself is trying to find a team strength for the starting line-up ahead of the Qatar world cup next November.
I understand when I look at the Nations League sometimes it doesn't really matter to some big teams because it is more often seen as a means to train for them. But the score I think is outrageous for them.
The 4-goal margin is obviously something big and something like this shouldn't have happened to England which incidentally is a big team.
On the other hand, I started to like the performance of Hungary because their performance was actually very good even since they were at Euro 2021 their performance was quite good even though at that time they were unlucky due to being in a hell group.
Playing seriously or not but losing with a score of 4-0 is still a shame, because even though England didn't play seriously but at least with their status as a big team and they also have a big league too. So, even if they didn't play seriously they could at least hold on to a draw or lose by a narrow score, what's more, England's one red card made it look even worse. At least when the big teams are trying and or preparing a strategy for the world cup, they can still play well, ending the match with a draw and or losing with a close score of course it will be more respectable.

Actually, I don't think any team cares about these matches. Yes, they lost to a team by 0-4. So? This tournament is just basically a few national-friendly matches.

So, I don't think anything is going to take this tournament seriously at all. For any team to have any kind of bad performance here is not going to have any effect on the world cup performance, you know. These are just some friendly matches and the players are treating it like one.
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We were indeed amazed by Hungary's performance when they succeeded in slaughtering the English hosts in front of the public at Wembley Stadium, but for the England national team this is not a tournament that is taken seriously by the three lion squad so this is a natural thing if they have to admit Hungary's superiority because of us. know that they don't take this tournament seriously, especially since it's only a friendly tournament, especially since the England coach himself is trying to find a team strength for the starting line-up ahead of the Qatar world cup next November.
I understand when I look at the Nations League sometimes it doesn't really matter to some big teams because it is more often seen as a means to train for them. But the score I think is outrageous for them.
The 4-goal margin is obviously something big and something like this shouldn't have happened to England which incidentally is a big team.
On the other hand, I started to like the performance of Hungary because their performance was actually very good even since they were at Euro 2021 their performance was quite good even though at that time they were unlucky due to being in a hell group.
We cannot use the UEFA Nations League event as a benchmark that a country's performance has decreased after a crushing defeat in the event, as happened to the England and France national teams which have not achieved maximum results in the international tournament.friendly match but UEFA turned it into a more competitive tournament.it is natural if someone does not play all out in this competition.as we know that the England national team has a very expensive squad so the match against Hungary cannot be used as a benchmark for the national team. England are underperforming ahead of the November World Cup
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Playing seriously or not but losing with a score of 4-0 is still a shame, because even though England didn't play seriously but at least with their status as a big team and they also have a big league too. So, even if they didn't play seriously they could at least hold on to a draw or lose by a narrow score, what's more, England's one red card made it look even worse. At least when the big teams are trying and or preparing a strategy for the world cup, they can still play well, ending the match with a draw and or losing with a close score of course it will be more respectable.

The Nations League Cup is an official FIFA competition, which gives points for ranking. A team below the ranking beats a team far above the ranking, allows you to earn a lot of points.

Of course, England wanted to win, but they faced the game extremely easily, and ended up suffering a heavy defeat, in an official competition and not in a friendly one.
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We were indeed amazed by Hungary's performance when they succeeded in slaughtering the English hosts in front of the public at Wembley Stadium, but for the England national team this is not a tournament that is taken seriously by the three lion squad so this is a natural thing if they have to admit Hungary's superiority because of us. know that they don't take this tournament seriously, especially since it's only a friendly tournament, especially since the England coach himself is trying to find a team strength for the starting line-up ahead of the Qatar world cup next November.
I understand when I look at the Nations League sometimes it doesn't really matter to some big teams because it is more often seen as a means to train for them. But the score I think is outrageous for them.
The 4-goal margin is obviously something big and something like this shouldn't have happened to England which incidentally is a big team.
On the other hand, I started to like the performance of Hungary because their performance was actually very good even since they were at Euro 2021 their performance was quite good even though at that time they were unlucky due to being in a hell group.
Playing seriously or not but losing with a score of 4-0 is still a shame, because even though England didn't play seriously but at least with their status as a big team and they also have a big league too. So, even if they didn't play seriously they could at least hold on to a draw or lose by a narrow score, what's more, England's one red card made it look even worse. At least when the big teams are trying and or preparing a strategy for the world cup, they can still play well, ending the match with a draw and or losing with a close score of course it will be more respectable.
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We were indeed amazed by Hungary's performance when they succeeded in slaughtering the English hosts in front of the public at Wembley Stadium, but for the England national team this is not a tournament that is taken seriously by the three lion squad so this is a natural thing if they have to admit Hungary's superiority because of us. know that they don't take this tournament seriously, especially since it's only a friendly tournament, especially since the England coach himself is trying to find a team strength for the starting line-up ahead of the Qatar world cup next November.
I understand when I look at the Nations League sometimes it doesn't really matter to some big teams because it is more often seen as a means to train for them. But the score I think is outrageous for them.
The 4-goal margin is obviously something big and something like this shouldn't have happened to England which incidentally is a big team.
On the other hand, I started to like the performance of Hungary because their performance was actually very good even since they were at Euro 2021 their performance was quite good even though at that time they were unlucky due to being in a hell group.
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This was a very delightful day in the Nations League in my opinion. We saw very unexpected results at the end of two big games. I wasn't expecting Italy to have this kind of a starting eleven too. This was the main reason why they lost by a very bad score, 5-2. Things were even worse for England because they lost their game against Hungary by 4-0. I was waiting for England to win this game so I was really shocked after seeing this. The Nations League is just very hard to predict now.

Fútbol is really giving many surprises at the world level, these games with the best teams in the world (I consider them that way) have given a lot to talk about, especially with the France vs Croatia match, because an Mbappé lost against a Modric who superior in age and clearly in experience, Mbappé had his counterpart BENZEMA who is an exceptional figure, here and where we realize that a player, no matter how good and famous he may be, needs a good team to help him stand out, otherwise as it happens in a country like Brazil where almost everyone is very, very good and helps the stars of the moment, I mean GABRIEL JESUS, NEYMAR JR, among others, therein lies a difference between European and South American fútbol.

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The group that includes Hungary can be called the death group. A group with strong teams. But being a leader in this group is truly an incredible event. Big surprise. The fact that Hungary scored four away goals against England in the last match shows that they are a great team. Although there were very good players in the England National Team they could not be a good team. The important thing here will be the continuation of Hungary's success. I see a really close knit, ambitious team right now.

I agree with you, Hungary has demonstrated an excellent performance that made many people to predicted for their favour, because they defeated England and other strong teams in this tournament that showed that nothing will stop them not to achieve this season title. Hungary coach is really doing a great job because for a Hungary to defeated England, show that their coach has raised a talented players that will help the team to achieve this season title and next season title. I believe Hungary will definitely win their next match to improve their points.
We were indeed amazed by Hungary's performance when they succeeded in slaughtering the English hosts in front of the public at Wembley Stadium, but for the England national team this is not a tournament that is taken seriously by the three lion squad so this is a natural thing if they have to admit Hungary's superiority because of us. know that they don't take this tournament seriously, especially since it's only a friendly tournament, especially since the England coach himself is trying to find a team strength for the starting line-up ahead of the Qatar world cup next November.
I like these kinds of surprises in football, really when I start to analyze these teams as big as those of England, Germany, just seeing their line-ups is scary, they are very good players, they are the best of the best, to see that at Better they were careless or had a bad run, this is something that is not usual, however my praise for Hungary is unique, I would take this as a warning that the level that will be shown in Qatar will be very high.
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The group that includes Hungary can be called the death group. A group with strong teams. But being a leader in this group is truly an incredible event. Big surprise. The fact that Hungary scored four away goals against England in the last match shows that they are a great team. Although there were very good players in the England National Team they could not be a good team. The important thing here will be the continuation of Hungary's success. I see a really close knit, ambitious team right now.

I agree with you, Hungary has demonstrated an excellent performance that made many people to predicted for their favour, because they defeated England and other strong teams in this tournament that showed that nothing will stop them not to achieve this season title. Hungary coach is really doing a great job because for a Hungary to defeated England, show that their coach has raised a talented players that will help the team to achieve this season title and next season title. I believe Hungary will definitely win their next match to improve their points.
We were indeed amazed by Hungary's performance when they succeeded in slaughtering the English hosts in front of the public at Wembley Stadium, but for the England national team this is not a tournament that is taken seriously by the three lion squad so this is a natural thing if they have to admit Hungary's superiority because of us. know that they don't take this tournament seriously, especially since it's only a friendly tournament, especially since the England coach himself is trying to find a team strength for the starting line-up ahead of the Qatar world cup next November.
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The matches in particular were boring.


you probably missed the good ones, because most of matches brought unexpected results, but I would not agree that those were boring
recalling matches between Netherlands and Wales, where both times there were two goals in overtime, and Wales lost both matches, that must hurt them, or Belgium that stormed Poland 6:1, after conceiving goal late in first half

match between England and Hungary is almost epic, they losing home 0:4, happens once in a lifetime
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From past records I'm gradually observing that many countries are no longer serious about the league's of the nations, the performance of 2021 is far more different and better comparing it with the performances we are seeing right now in the  UEFA Nations League 2022. Defamation Nations League was the second season of the UEFA Nations League, an international association football competition.
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Probably nothing to do with the World Cup, just that many countries are not serious about the League of Nations. It's an extra opportunity for them to have a training session. That's why the top teams don't look good and the underdogs are trying to make a name for themselves. I think that before the World Cup, at the end of September, the situation will not change much because the coaches will be worried about the players so that they don't get injured.
Exactly this happened! I have seen this for quite many big teams actually. They just rotated their starting elevens incredibly much and they did this many times. I understand that they don't want one of their players to have a serious injury of course. But this is really killing the excitement of the matches for us at the same time. From now on I'm thinking of making bets on surprise results. I'm pretty sure that many people tried and got quite a lot of money by doing this so far.  Cheesy

No match in the Nations League was enjoyable. The matches in particular were boring. More importantly, I was disappointed to see a series of poor performances by my favorite teams. The teams should have played at least in a way that did not embarrass them. But I was disappointed to see that a team like England would lose 4-0. At the same time I lost a lot of money by betting on my favorite teams
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Although the League of Nations is not important for big teams. However, the performance of Hungary surprised me a lot. They have strong teams like Germany, Italy, and England in their group. However, Hungary is at the top of the group. The 4-0 win over England was excellent. The Hungarian squad has a number of talented players. They will become more experienced if they get the right direction.

In my opinion, in such tournaments, outsiders have a peculiar advantage, since, for example, what does it mean for Germany to win over Hungary in a friendly (or almost) match? I think almost none. At the same time, for Hungary, the victory over England is a great event, and the higher the score, the more epic the victory. Therefore, even with an advantage, they try to score more. Formally, these are official matches and these results will go down in history. So for Hungary it means a lot, while for opponents it doesn't.
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Probably nothing to do with the World Cup, just that many countries are not serious about the League of Nations. It's an extra opportunity for them to have a training session. That's why the top teams don't look good and the underdogs are trying to make a name for themselves. I think that before the World Cup, at the end of September, the situation will not change much because the coaches will be worried about the players so that they don't get injured.

Exactly this happened! I have seen this for quite many big teams actually. They just rotated their starting elevens incredibly much and they did this many times. I understand that they don't want one of their players to have a serious injury of course. But this is really killing the excitement of the matches for us at the same time. From now on I'm thinking of making bets on surprise results. I'm pretty sure that many people tried and got quite a lot of money by doing this so far.  Cheesy
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Really this victory was surprising on the part of Hungary. I don't think anyone was expecting England to lose, especially because of so many goals. And I'm not devaluing the players from Hungary, because they have a good team. But the England team has very good players. It seems that once again the England coach invented a little, as usual, and the result was this expressive defeat.
In general, the game was equal, but the Hungarian players looked much fresher and more energetic, and in the final phases of the attack they did everything perfectly, or maybe it was just England that allowed them to complete the attacks, because in the match with Italy Hungary could not do absolutely nothing. And if not for an own goal, the gates of Italy would have remained dry. I think this is not the merit of Hungary, but England's oversight, perhaps they underestimated the opponent.
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Although the League of Nations is not important for big teams. However, the performance of Hungary surprised me a lot. They have strong teams like Germany, Italy, and England in their group. However, Hungary is at the top of the group. The 4-0 win over England was excellent. The Hungarian squad has a number of talented players. They will become more experienced if they get the right direction.

Yeah, but Italy didn't qualify for the world cup, so I guess they're probably putting more effort into the Nations League now.

Or maybe they're just completely demotivated now. It's hard to predict how these emotional things might affect a team, but they usually do affect them in one way or another.
It also makes sense, if Italy can focus more on the UEFA Nations League at least Italy can lead the group, but the reality is not as imagined. It's a shame I think, because when a big team still has a good squad, then Italy should be able to show a better performance in this tournament. Because with Italy not qualifying in the world cup then of course this tournament is a hope for them, but they are not showing a good effort here either.
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Although the League of Nations is not important for big teams. However, the performance of Hungary surprised me a lot. They have strong teams like Germany, Italy, and England in their group. However, Hungary is at the top of the group. The 4-0 win over England was excellent. The Hungarian squad has a number of talented players. They will become more experienced if they get the right direction.

Yeah, but Italy didn't qualify for the world cup, so I guess they're probably putting more effort into the Nations League now.

Or maybe they're just completely demotivated now. It's hard to predict how these emotional things might affect a team, but they usually do affect them in one way or another.
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Although the League of Nations is not important for big teams. However, the performance of Hungary surprised me a lot. They have strong teams like Germany, Italy, and England in their group. However, Hungary is at the top of the group. The 4-0 win over England was excellent. The Hungarian squad has a number of talented players. They will become more experienced if they get the right direction.

Really this victory was surprising on the part of Hungary. I don't think anyone was expecting England to lose, especially because of so many goals. And I'm not devaluing the players from Hungary, because they have a good team. But the England team has very good players. It seems that once again the England coach invented a little, as usual, and the result was this expressive defeat.
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The group that includes Hungary can be called the death group. A group with strong teams. But being a leader in this group is truly an incredible event. Big surprise. The fact that Hungary scored four away goals against England in the last match shows that they are a great team. Although there were very good players in the England National Team they could not be a good team. The important thing here will be the continuation of Hungary's success. I see a really close knit, ambitious team right now.
I agree with you, Hungary has demonstrated an excellent performance that made many people to predicted for their favour, because they defeated England and other strong teams in this tournament that showed that nothing will stop them not to achieve this season title. Hungary coach is really doing a great job because for a Hungary to defeated England, show that their coach has raised a talented players that will help the team to achieve this season title and next season title. I believe Hungary will definitely win their next match to improve their points.
There are periods when teams that nobody expect end up doing more than what they were expected. Like crotia did a few years back in euro cup I believe. But in the end, the big clubs always win, doesn't matter which competition it is, doesn't matter when it will end, doesn't matter anything.

Hungary could look to be a great team for the time being, there are some players which are quite good as well and I agree with that, but in the long run we are not going to see anything special about that team at all, it will be as boring as it could possibly get and then we are going to see them get a lot worse over course of some period and be forgotten again.

I totally agree with you’ll about Hangary performances, but I also sympathise with England player’s as they had a long season and were probably burnt out going in these matches. Lastly I personally feel that once the league matches resume Hungary player’s may not perform well, as other team player’s will be in much better shape and they’ll find it difficult to win against them.
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I am certain that Turkey is in the B league.  All teams are weaker than Turkey in the group they are currently in.  Turkey did not even concede a goal in the 4 games they played.  Therefore, it will easily go to the B league.  Turkey's target is seen as the A League.  I see a young, high-quality Turkey who is a candidate for the A league in a year or two.
In Europe there is top teams, medium and weak ones. The difference between these groups is quite large. It is like moving from skills 8-9/10 to 5/10 to 1-2/10 without having in-between skills. Turkey is 5/10, not good, not bad. The small teams we are talking about are simply in the low tier..

Turkey does not have a very good staff. Very good squad, I think we can understand if we look at the squads of teams such as France, England, Netherlands, Germany. We can say that they have an average staff for Turkey. I think that the other teams in the group are very weak and Turkey is not at a very high level.
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Hungary could look to be a great team for the time being, there are some players which are quite good as well and I agree with that, but in the long run we are not going to see anything special about that team at all, it will be as boring as it could possibly get and then we are going to see them get a lot worse over course of some period and be forgotten again.

Although the League of Nations is not important for big teams. However, the performance of Hungary surprised me a lot. They have strong teams like Germany, Italy, and England in their group. However, Hungary is at the top of the group. The 4-0 win over England was excellent. The Hungarian squad has a number of talented players. They will become more experienced if they get the right direction.
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