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Quote from: pawel7777 on September 13, 2023, 04:51:36 PM

Quote from: TopTort777 on September 13, 2023, 04:15:23 AM

Speaking about Adesanya - during 1 year he has managed to lost, regain and lost again his champions title. He is 34, based on his instagram, he is enjoying life more than being a full-time working hard fighter. Recently Pereira told, that Izzy should take a rest, make a pause, think what he wants more. I know that social media isnt 100% reflection of humans life, but imho, Izzy starts to look more like Conor. It is party, fun and luxury over hard work in gym.

He certainly doesn't look his age. He looks like he's mid-to-late twenties and acts like a teenager. Everyone ages differently, and I think he might be one of those people who can stay in great shape even past the 40. But there's another factor, that we can call mental aging. The longer you fight the harder it is to stay "hungry" and get your motivation high. The adrenaline levels simply might not be what they used to be when he steps into the octagon.
Also, his fighting style to a large degree is based on speed, and that's something that deteriorates with age way faster than strength. There's always an option for him to bulk up and move to the light heavyweight, which is generally slower than the middleweight.

Anyhow, in a recent interview, Dana White was back-pedaling a bit on the idea of an immediate rematch, so things might get more interesting. I think they may be waiting on the Costa-Chimaev result before making any decisions.

It's all the anime he's been watching. Cheesy

If the mind is young then body will also look young.

Here's a tape of Holland vs Chiesa. I honestly have no idea why the books lined Holland as a slight underdog here. I think it's value esp with how JDM looked at his last match. I know JDM has been on a tear but I think Holland could sub this guy. Holland via sub is at 7.20. Could be worth a sprinkle.

UFC Free Fight: Holland vs Chiesa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkky4VnE-X8

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Quote from: pawel7777 on September 13, 2023, 04:51:36 PM

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Speaking about Adesanya - during 1 year he has managed to lost, regain and lost again his champions title. He is 34, based on his instagram, he is enjoying life more than being a full-time working hard fighter. Recently Pereira told, that Izzy should take a rest, make a pause, think what he wants more. I know that social media isnt 100% reflection of humans life, but imho, Izzy starts to look more like Conor. It is party, fun and luxury over hard work in gym.

He certainly doesn't look his age. He looks like he's mid-to-late twenties and acts like a teenager. Everyone ages differently, and I think he might be one of those people who can stay in great shape even past the 40. But there's another factor, that we can call mental aging. The longer you fight the harder it is to stay "hungry" and get your motivation high. The adrenaline levels simply might not be what they used to be when he steps into the octagon.
Also, his fighting style to a large degree is based on speed, and that's something that deteriorates with age way faster than strength. There's always an option for him to bulk up and move to the light heavyweight, which is generally slower than the middleweight.

Anyhow, in a recent interview, Dana White was back-pedaling a bit on the idea of an immediate rematch, so things might get more interesting. I think they may be waiting on the Costa-Chimaev result before making any decisions.

You have used a proper word, exact word that describes whole situation around Izzy from my point of view. Motivation. How long he has been fighting already? Ages in kickboxing, some ages in pre-UFC and in UFC. He was a champ in different promotions. I seems that he is tired of all that. Looks like he has lots of money already. Probably completed most from his "to achieve" list. It seems that even when he is not a champ, when he fights, he will get a solid payment anyway.

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Quote from: bittraffic on September 11, 2023, 03:52:33 PM

Dana is just doing the drama like he really wanted to quick rematch. But I think he wants Izzy to move up already for more saleable fights for him and leave the MW. Removing the gatekeeper will allow new faces in the division. Dana probably will introduce again Khamzat in the MW against Costa which had been the most anticipated fight for months.

And Pereira will finally get his rematch with Izzy. It's an unfinished business which is more exciting to fans, fans really need to find out who gets 2:1

Well, I really don't know what Dana White and the UFC are thinking at the moment but I really think the rematch was not a bluff when he said it, and it was on the press conference after the fight, for sure he meant what he have said back then, but for sure his mind can still change on giving Adesanya an immediate rematch and if the people don't want that rematch for sure Dana White can immediately change what he have originally said for me I think Israel Adesanya just needs to move on with his situation now and just learn from that lost and adjust from his next fight,

Quote from: TopTort777 on September 13, 2023, 04:15:23 AM

Speaking about Adesanya - during 1 year he has managed to lost, regain and lost again his champions title. He is 34, based on his instagram, he is enjoying life more than being a full-time working hard fighter. Recently Pereira told, that Izzy should take a rest, make a pause, think what he wants more. I know that social media isnt 100% reflection of humans life, but imho, Izzy starts to look more like Conor. It is party, fun and luxury over hard work in gym.

For sure there is not enough time for Izzy to hit the Gym or train or maybe his videos were all just bluffs with all that training, but yeah this is just all speculation, for sure Izzy's training camp will not let him slack off, just a bit, but for sure that Champion status sometimes is getting into his head for sure, and would think that he is king sometimes, without any remorse on what he's going to say, I really don't know if Israel Adesanya is truly lacking but for sure he needs a lot more time with training and we have seen who has the more determined to win in this event,

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Quote from: TopTort777 on September 13, 2023, 04:15:23 AM

Speaking about Adesanya - during 1 year he has managed to lost, regain and lost again his champions title. He is 34, based on his instagram, he is enjoying life more than being a full-time working hard fighter. Recently Pereira told, that Izzy should take a rest, make a pause, think what he wants more. I know that social media isnt 100% reflection of humans life, but imho, Izzy starts to look more like Conor. It is party, fun and luxury over hard work in gym.

He certainly doesn't look his age. He looks like he's mid-to-late twenties and acts like a teenager. Everyone ages differently, and I think he might be one of those people who can stay in great shape even past the 40. But there's another factor, that we can call mental aging. The longer you fight the harder it is to stay "hungry" and get your motivation high. The adrenaline levels simply might not be what they used to be when he steps into the octagon.
Also, his fighting style to a large degree is based on speed, and that's something that deteriorates with age way faster than strength. There's always an option for him to bulk up and move to the light heavyweight, which is generally slower than the middleweight.

Anyhow, in a recent interview, Dana White was back-pedaling a bit on the idea of an immediate rematch, so things might get more interesting. I think they may be waiting on the Costa-Chimaev result before making any decisions.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on September 13, 2023, 04:15:23 AM

Speaking about Adesanya - during 1 year he has managed to lost, regain and lost again his champions title. He is 34, based on his instagram, he is enjoying life more than being a full-time working hard fighter. Recently Pereira told, that Izzy should take a rest, make a pause, think what he wants more. I know that social media isnt 100% reflection of humans life, but imho, Izzy starts to look more like Conor. It is party, fun and luxury over hard work in gym.

Well, in just 1 year Adesanya lost his title twice and now it is really considered impossible for him to regain his title but for me I still have confidence that there is a big opportunity for Adesanya to challenge Stickland again and fight for the title he once had like before when he took the belt from Alex Pereira.
Even though he is 34 years old his fighting ability cannot be underestimated.

Here I slightly agree with what Pereira said namely that Adesanya needs to rest first and prepare everything to fight for the title again and when it comes to lifestyle Adesanya is indeed more similar to Conor in the past still getting glory from the UFC.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on September 12, 2023, 11:31:02 AM

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Nope, Adesanya had no say on who he'll fight next. That's not how it works in the UFC. It's the UFC that proposes an opponent and it's up to the fighter if chooses to sign the contract or not. DDP was the first guy who got the offer to fight Adesanya but DDP refused because as he said, he wouldn't have had enough time to prepare as he just fought Whittaker at the time. So on they went to give Strickland the offer which he immediately accepted.

As a champion he probably had some say, i.e. if he refused to fight someone, UFC would find him someone else, maybe on a different date. UFC had quite a few fussy fighters, who were picky about who and when they wanted to fight (e.g. Jon Jones or GSP).
Obviously, since Volkanovski couldn't fight in Sydney this time, they needed some other Australian-enough star to headline the main event - Adesanya. And Strickland, who prides himself in accepting any fight, was the 2nd best opponent for Izzy, after DDP.
Strickland, on paper, was a very convenient rival for Izzy (proved by bookies' odds), so I'm sure he was very happy to sign the contract.

Oh for sure a title holder who has a lot of pull and some clout like McGregor could pull some strings and get what he wants. Adesanya could be one of those guys and prolly Volk and Jon Jones. Guys who could sell PPV's... And yes, fighters have a choice if they want to sign up for the fight or not. That's why we have the interim title in the UFC. It's when the champ doesn't want to accept any fight but the UFC doesn't want to stop the division from progressing.

Here's another free fight from Shev.

UFC Free Fight: Shev vs Murphy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSpjmHNIlps

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Or we can talk about conspiracy theory and imagine that it was a fixed fight, because odds were +6:1. Someone made tons of money that night. In fact, Strickland was always popular, not all of a sudden became popular recently. Just search on YouTube for his interviews and compilations. If it was only about popularity, than Du Plessis or Costa are more popular now than Strickland, a man from people, an average Joe that acts like a redneck.

To be honest, I don't watch Stickland's fights, so, I don't know much about that fighter but from what I saw in this match, I think that odds were too high on him. I speak in terms of his and Izzy's performance. I don't think this fight was rigged but who knows.
Are Du Plessis or Costa really more popular? When I talk about Stickland's popularity, I mean that I see him very frequently on social media, he is on podcast with other people very frequently too. Is this because of TikTok's or Youtube's algorithm? I don't know exactly but I have never typed his name before.

Indeed he has more popularity thanks to belt and social media algorithms. Everyone wants to parasite on his name. What we know about Strickland, most people think he is dumb, a lot of people like him for that. Costa is on hype because he looks like a monster, had some trashtalk with Chimaev, he is more media person. Du Plessis is kind a phenomenal, because no one cant explain how he beats best of division with such weird fighting style, strikes or who the hell he is. What Strickland is famous for ? Well, he got KOed by Pereira, and... just watch this vid. (just check interviewer face when Strickland answers)

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Quote from: pawel7777 on September 11, 2023, 04:01:54 PM

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And Pereira will finally get his rematch with Izzy. It's an unfinished business which is more exciting to fans, fans really need to find out who gets 2:1

I don't know, somehow I'm not super excited for another episode of Adesanya Vs Pereira. It would be a good fight, sure, but each of them has potentially better fights.
After Izzy got manhandled by Stricland, I don't think moving to light heavyweight would be a good move. He did try that already and failed.

And it's 3:1 for Pereira Grin

. Izzy needs another 2 wins just to get even.

Alex Pereira is Izzy's worst nightmare and I genuinely believe if we see another fight between them, Pereira will definitely win it. This last win from Izzy was really a strike of luck because if anyone remembers, Pereira had a real advantage during the fight. I even think that Izzy is afraid to fight him again.

Quote from: TopTort777 on September 12, 2023, 03:42:00 AM

Or we can talk about conspiracy theory and imagine that it was a fixed fight, because odds were +6:1. Someone made tons of money that night. In fact, Strickland was always popular, not all of a sudden became popular recently. Just search on YouTube for his interviews and compilations. If it was only about popularity, than Du Plessis or Costa are more popular now than Strickland, a man from people, an average Joe that acts like a redneck.

To be honest, I don't watch Stickland's fights, so, I don't know much about that fighter but from what I saw in this match, I think that odds were too high on him. I speak in terms of his and Izzy's performance. I don't think this fight was rigged but who knows.
Are Du Plessis or Costa really more popular? When I talk about Stickland's popularity, I mean that I see him very frequently on social media, he is on podcast with other people very frequently too. Is this because of TikTok's or Youtube's algorithm? I don't know exactly but I have never typed his name before.

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Speaking about Adesanya - during 1 year he has managed to lost, regain and lost again his champions title. He is 34, based on his instagram, he is enjoying life more than being a full-time working hard fighter. Recently Pereira told, that Izzy should take a rest, make a pause, think what he wants more. I know that social media isnt 100% reflection of humans life, but imho, Izzy starts to look more like Conor. It is party, fun and luxury over hard work in gym.

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Quote from: tokeweed on September 12, 2023, 08:04:18 AM

Nope, Adesanya had no say on who he'll fight next. That's not how it works in the UFC. It's the UFC that proposes an opponent and it's up to the fighter if chooses to sign the contract or not. DDP was the first guy who got the offer to fight Adesanya but DDP refused because as he said, he wouldn't have had enough time to prepare as he just fought Whittaker at the time. So on they went to give Strickland the offer which he immediately accepted.

As a champion he probably had some say, i.e. if he refused to fight someone, UFC would find him someone else, maybe on a different date. UFC had quite a few fussy fighters, who were picky about who and when they wanted to fight (e.g. Jon Jones or GSP).
Obviously, since Volkanovski couldn't fight in Sydney this time, they needed some other Australian-enough star to headline the main event - Adesanya. And Strickland, who prides himself in accepting any fight, was the 2nd best opponent for Izzy, after DDP.
Strickland, on paper, was a very convenient rival for Izzy (proved by bookies' odds), so I'm sure he was very happy to sign the contract.

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Quote from: tokeweed on September 12, 2023, 08:04:18 AM

I think if DDP accepted the offer, he would've won because if there was a good time to beat Adesanya, it was that night. He was slower, kinda like he wasn't himself... :/

Adesanya got used to a lot of support from the crowd but this time he was booed and probably lost the drive to win. Didn't even make any other attempt to land a significant hit to Strickland. DDP will likely not want to fight this version of Izzy.

While Strickland is getting much support also. You'd probably begin to like him after he fixes the broken UFC belt. https://www.instagram.com/p/CxEl_aLJ5N7/ I do like him now. And look at all his guns hanging on the wall Grin

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Quote from: Synchronice on September 12, 2023, 03:07:41 AM

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Izzy Vs Sean was like a duel between an artist and a craftsman. Artists would perform better but only when they are in 'the zone', craftsmen would never be spectacular, but will deliver a solid performance even on their bad day.
It just wasn't a good day for Izzy, he either missed something in his mental preparation, or that blow in the 1st round had much greater effect that we might realise. He looked like he was solely focussed on surviving.
Voices on the internet are mostly against an immediate rematch. Sure, Izzy deserves it simply because of all his past achievements, but that's not necessarily fair to all the other guys in the middleweight, who want their shot at the title as well. Sportwise, Du Plessis is more deserving to fight Strickland next.

I think there are no past achievements left that can influence on Dana White and let Izzy have a rematch. Izzy has used his past achievements to have an immediate rematch against Pereira. This time it was Izzy who decided to skip Du Plessis and choose Strickland, because he though it was a much easier fight. I dont think that his loss has something to do with preparation, mind games or etc. Strickland used most simple, yet efficient defence. He did not think of something complicated, combos or strategy. He has used so called shell defence (the one Mayweather uses) - shoulder protects chin from one side, fist from the other, and the second hand defends body. Btw, Strickland outstroke Izzy (probably top striker in UFC) by number of accented strikes almost by two times.

https://youtube.com/shorts/9AycNZ8L-Vw?si=epV4j2PcSXcBj6Wt - Strickland is hilarious, already broke his belt Cheesy

I think Izzy chose Stickland over Du Plessis not only because for easy fight but recently I notice that Stickland is becoming more and more popular, while I have almost never seen him on social media, for the past 4 months, I see him very often. Joe Rogan and Nelk Boys had podcast with him too.
It was a bad day for Izzy, I think he was somewhat mentally weak and unmotivated during the fight. It makes me also sad that he is getting bullied because he watches anime. It was November 12, 2022 when he lost against Pereira and was bullied for animes, then after one win (again against Pereira), he lost again.
By the way, Stickland used Izzy's mistake so well to attack him, hands down, this was a pure masterpiece moment.

Nope, Adesanya had no say on who he'll fight next. That's not how it works in the UFC. It's the UFC that proposes an opponent and it's up to the fighter if chooses to sign the contract or not. DDP was the first guy who got the offer to fight Adesanya but DDP refused because as he said, he wouldn't have had enough time to prepare as he just fought Whittaker at the time. So on they went to give Strickland the offer which he immediately accepted.

I think if DDP accepted the offer, he would've won because if there was a good time to beat Adesanya, it was that night. He was slower, kinda like he wasn't himself... :/

Edit: Almost forgot, it's DWCS in 11 hours or so...

Date: Tuesday, September 12
Main Card (ESPN+): 8:00pm EST
Venue: UFC Apex Center, Las Vegas, Nevada
Live Streams:

Main Card
Heavyweight: Jhonata Diniz vs Eduardo Neves
Lightweight: James Llontop vs Malik Lewis
Featherweight: Steven Nguyen vs A.J. Cunningham
Women's Strawweight: Julia Polastri vs Patricia Alujas
Bantamweight: Jean Matsumoto vs Kasey Tanner

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Quote from: Synchronice on September 12, 2023, 03:07:41 AM

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Izzy Vs Sean was like a duel between an artist and a craftsman. Artists would perform better but only when they are in 'the zone', craftsmen would never be spectacular, but will deliver a solid performance even on their bad day.
It just wasn't a good day for Izzy, he either missed something in his mental preparation, or that blow in the 1st round had much greater effect that we might realise. He looked like he was solely focussed on surviving.
Voices on the internet are mostly against an immediate rematch. Sure, Izzy deserves it simply because of all his past achievements, but that's not necessarily fair to all the other guys in the middleweight, who want their shot at the title as well. Sportwise, Du Plessis is more deserving to fight Strickland next.

I think there are no past achievements left that can influence on Dana White and let Izzy have a rematch. Izzy has used his past achievements to have an immediate rematch against Pereira. This time it was Izzy who decided to skip Du Plessis and choose Strickland, because he though it was a much easier fight. I dont think that his loss has something to do with preparation, mind games or etc. Strickland used most simple, yet efficient defence. He did not think of something complicated, combos or strategy. He has used so called shell defence (the one Mayweather uses) - shoulder protects chin from one side, fist from the other, and the second hand defends body. Btw, Strickland outstroke Izzy (probably top striker in UFC) by number of accented strikes almost by two times.

https://youtube.com/shorts/9AycNZ8L-Vw?si=epV4j2PcSXcBj6Wt - Strickland is hilarious, already broke his belt Cheesy

I think Izzy chose Stickland over Du Plessis not only because for easy fight but recently I notice that Stickland is becoming more and more popular, while I have almost never seen him on social media, for the past 4 months, I see him very often. Joe Rogan and Nelk Boys had podcast with him too.
It was a bad day for Izzy, I think he was somewhat mentally weak and unmotivated during the fight. It makes me also sad that he is getting bullied because he watches anime. It was November 12, 2022 when he lost against Pereira and was bullied for animes, then after one win (again against Pereira), he lost again.
By the way, Stickland used Izzy's mistake so well to attack him, hands down, this was a pure masterpiece moment.

Or we can talk about conspiracy theory and imagine that it was a fixed fight, because odds were +6:1. Someone made tons of money that night. In fact, Strickland was always popular, not all of a sudden became popular recently. Just search on YouTube for his interviews and compilations. If it was only about popularity, than Du Plessis or Costa are more popular now than Strickland, a man from people, an average Joe that acts like a redneck.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on September 11, 2023, 04:01:54 PM

I don't know, somehow I'm not super excited for another episode of Adesanya Vs Pereira. It would be a good fight, sure, but each of them has potentially better fights.
After Izzy got manhandled by Stricland, I don't think moving to light heavyweight would be a good move. He did try that already and failed.

And it's 3:1 for Pereira Grin

. Izzy needs another 2 wins just to get even.

Well, if the UFC sees big money to make that fight happen, they will hype it and eventually announce that it will happen. Surely after how Izzy reacted to that win against Pereira, many fans wanted to see Pereira avenge his loss. Izzy is not capable of winning against Strictland and they might not be interested in chasing back some wins from him. The only good thing for him right now is to fight somebody else and if he gets ready and learns his lesson, he can ask for a rematch just like how he got the win from Pereira.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on September 12, 2023, 02:00:14 AM

Quote from: pawel7777 on September 11, 2023, 03:11:21 PM

Izzy Vs Sean was like a duel between an artist and a craftsman. Artists would perform better but only when they are in 'the zone', craftsmen would never be spectacular, but will deliver a solid performance even on their bad day.
It just wasn't a good day for Izzy, he either missed something in his mental preparation, or that blow in the 1st round had much greater effect that we might realise. He looked like he was solely focussed on surviving.
Voices on the internet are mostly against an immediate rematch. Sure, Izzy deserves it simply because of all his past achievements, but that's not necessarily fair to all the other guys in the middleweight, who want their shot at the title as well. Sportwise, Du Plessis is more deserving to fight Strickland next.

I think there are no past achievements left that can influence on Dana White and let Izzy have a rematch. Izzy has used his past achievements to have an immediate rematch against Pereira. This time it was Izzy who decided to skip Du Plessis and choose Strickland, because he though it was a much easier fight. I dont think that his loss has something to do with preparation, mind games or etc. Strickland used most simple, yet efficient defence. He did not think of something complicated, combos or strategy. He has used so called shell defence (the one Mayweather uses) - shoulder protects chin from one side, fist from the other, and the second hand defends body. Btw, Strickland outstroke Izzy (probably top striker in UFC) by number of accented strikes almost by two times.

https://youtube.com/shorts/9AycNZ8L-Vw?si=epV4j2PcSXcBj6Wt - Strickland is hilarious, already broke his belt Cheesy

I think Izzy chose Stickland over Du Plessis not only because for easy fight but recently I notice that Stickland is becoming more and more popular, while I have almost never seen him on social media, for the past 4 months, I see him very often. Joe Rogan and Nelk Boys had podcast with him too.
It was a bad day for Izzy, I think he was somewhat mentally weak and unmotivated during the fight. It makes me also sad that he is getting bullied because he watches anime. It was November 12, 2022 when he lost against Pereira and was bullied for animes, then after one win (again against Pereira), he lost again.
By the way, Stickland used Izzy's mistake so well to attack him, hands down, this was a pure masterpiece moment.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on September 11, 2023, 03:11:21 PM

Izzy Vs Sean was like a duel between an artist and a craftsman. Artists would perform better but only when they are in 'the zone', craftsmen would never be spectacular, but will deliver a solid performance even on their bad day.
It just wasn't a good day for Izzy, he either missed something in his mental preparation, or that blow in the 1st round had much greater effect that we might realise. He looked like he was solely focussed on surviving.
Voices on the internet are mostly against an immediate rematch. Sure, Izzy deserves it simply because of all his past achievements, but that's not necessarily fair to all the other guys in the middleweight, who want their shot at the title as well. Sportwise, Du Plessis is more deserving to fight Strickland next.

I think there are no past achievements left that can influence on Dana White and let Izzy have a rematch. Izzy has used his past achievements to have an immediate rematch against Pereira. This time it was Izzy who decided to skip Du Plessis and choose Strickland, because he though it was a much easier fight. I dont think that his loss has something to do with preparation, mind games or etc. Strickland used most simple, yet efficient defence. He did not think of something complicated, combos or strategy. He has used so called shell defence (the one Mayweather uses) - shoulder protects chin from one side, fist from the other, and the second hand defends body. Btw, Strickland outstroke Izzy (probably top striker in UFC) by number of accented strikes almost by two times.

https://youtube.com/shorts/9AycNZ8L-Vw?si=epV4j2PcSXcBj6Wt - Strickland is hilarious, already broke his belt Cheesy

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Kittens fighting in main event - in few minutes YuginKadoya gonna appear here Cheesy

And I as usually gonna skip that. There are few familiar names in the card, like Holland and youngest kid in UFC (Rosas Jr.), but I find low interest in watching the event. Probably gonna skip and just watch a review after. The post fight discussion of Izzy vs Strickland seems more interesting than next event Cheesy

Dont think we need a instant rematch, as it a clear fight, 4-1 by rounds in Strickland favour.

Actually, I liked Alexa Grasso If you watch her last 2 fights against Viviane Araújo and Valentina Shevchenko it was a spectacle as those two fight was technical win for Grasso surely Alexa Grasso is a different fighter now as she now has a submission in her arsenal, well that is your choice if you want to skip this fight,

Well, sure many can still not believe that Israel Adesanaya lost to Sean Strickland for sure but that basic attack of Strickland surely is enough to take on Adesanya easily, If you look at Bruce Lee's saying "I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times." Strickland surely applied that in his training regime and motivation

Quote from: tokeweed on September 11, 2023, 07:51:46 AM

^ Yeah but main event is a title match tho. So not bad for a Fight Night. Another couple of guys to watch are Daniel Zellhuber and Roman Kopylov. These guys could be future contenders. A parlay of them both wouldn't be a bad idea imho. Wink

Anyway, here's a free fight vid from their first match. It's prolly the biggest upset in UFC history. I think Shef was like a 10 to 1 favorite for the match. :/

UFC Free Fight: Grasso vs Shev 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sqUOqX4Npc

As for the Holland vs the JDM match up, I'm on the Holland side. Could end with a sub.

Nice! Thanks for sharing this Now I have seen the fight again on how Alexa Grasso won the belt, and it was a stunning fight for sure Valentina Shevchenko was really winning the fight but that spinning kick cost her to lose because Grasso capitalized on this and got into Valentina Shevchenko's back and I think Alexa Grasso is winning the striking for sure on the rematch I think Alexa Grasso still will be winning in this fight, but if Shevchenko didn't adjust for this fight,

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Quote from: bittraffic on September 11, 2023, 03:52:33 PM

And Pereira will finally get his rematch with Izzy. It's an unfinished business which is more exciting to fans, fans really need to find out who gets 2:1

I don't know, somehow I'm not super excited for another episode of Adesanya Vs Pereira. It would be a good fight, sure, but each of them has potentially better fights.
After Izzy got manhandled by Stricland, I don't think moving to light heavyweight would be a good move. He did try that already and failed.

And it's 3:1 for Pereira Grin

. Izzy needs another 2 wins just to get even.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on September 11, 2023, 03:11:21 PM

Quote from: Balmain on September 11, 2023, 12:09:39 PM

I find it very interesting that Sean Strickland won the game at defensive and boxing distance. Izzy could have disrupted his distance with her kicks, she remained calm in most places and did not hit. In the first rounds of the match, while Sean Strickland had 20 head punch at one point, Izyy only had one and he was kicking, which seemed a little pointless to me. It could have turned out like this because he underestimated his opponent. Izzy did not have such an enthusiastic match. First, he arranges a rematch with Strickland and Dana White, and then the Perreria trilogy begins.

Izzy Vs Sean was like a duel between an artist and a craftsman. Artists would perform better but only when they are in 'the zone', craftsmen would never be spectacular, but will deliver a solid performance even on their bad day.
It just wasn't a good day for Izzy, he either missed something in his mental preparation, or that blow in the 1st round had much greater effect that we might realise. He looked like he was solely focussed on surviving.
Voices on the internet are mostly against an immediate rematch. Sure, Izzy deserves it simply because of all his past achievements, but that's not necessarily fair to all the other guys in the middleweight, who want their shot at the title as well. Sportwise, Du Plessis is more deserving to fight Strickland next.

Dana is just doing the drama like he really wanted to quick rematch. But I think he wants Izzy to move up already for more saleable fights for him and leave the MW. Removing the gatekeeper will allow new faces in the division. Dana probably will introduce again Khamzat in the MW against Costa which had been the most anticipated fight for months.

And Pereira will finally get his rematch with Izzy. It's an unfinished business which is more exciting to fans, fans really need to find out who gets 2:1

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Quote from: Balmain on September 11, 2023, 12:09:39 PM

I find it very interesting that Sean Strickland won the game at defensive and boxing distance. Izzy could have disrupted his distance with her kicks, she remained calm in most places and did not hit. In the first rounds of the match, while Sean Strickland had 20 head punch at one point, Izyy only had one and he was kicking, which seemed a little pointless to me. It could have turned out like this because he underestimated his opponent. Izzy did not have such an enthusiastic match. First, he arranges a rematch with Strickland and Dana White, and then the Perreria trilogy begins.

Izzy Vs Sean was like a duel between an artist and a craftsman. Artists would perform better but only when they are in 'the zone', craftsmen would never be spectacular, but will deliver a solid performance even on their bad day.
It just wasn't a good day for Izzy, he either missed something in his mental preparation, or that blow in the 1st round had much greater effect that we might realise. He looked like he was solely focussed on surviving.
Voices on the internet are mostly against an immediate rematch. Sure, Izzy deserves it simply because of all his past achievements, but that's not necessarily fair to all the other guys in the middleweight, who want their shot at the title as well. Sportwise, Du Plessis is more deserving to fight Strickland next.

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