Topic: The UFC Info and Prediction Thread - page 109. (Read 100821 times)

You can look at the paper and you can clearly see the difference between the two, Jon Jones has a lot of advantages over Stipe Miocic and Jon Jones's age, Stipe Miocic is 41, and Jon Jones is 36 which is a clear deficit Reach advantage Miocic got Reach: 80.0" (203cm) while Jones has Reach: 84.5" (215cm), fighting record Stipe Miocic got 20-4-0 (Win-Loss-Draw) 14 KO, 1 Submission, and 5 Decision while Jon Jones has 27-1-0, 1 NC (Win-Loss-Draw) with 10 KO, 7 Submission, and 10 Decision, for sure in this kind of stats in paper Jon Jones would likely win and got the edge on the odds,


The UFC has already established the Jon Jones VS Stipe Miocic fight, for it can also generate a potential PPV, but what if the UFC is also establishing the Tom Aspinall for the winner of the Sergei Pavlovich VS Tom Aspinall fight will likely fight Whoever wins the someone who can Jon Jones VS Stipe Miocic

For sure many want to see a fight between Tom Aspinall and Jon Jones but what if the UFC is ahead of us and wants the fight at a later date and the UFC is still establishing a better PPV for the two to fight in a given time for sure,


I never expected his win over Cyril Gane, but he managed to win that in a fast surprising manner, and for sure Jon Jones has the fight IQ to win in a tight spot, but his game will suddenly get over as his age progresses, and now that he is injured I might say that he is likely prone to being injured at his age, and after the Tom Aspinall VS Jon Jones fight for sure it is a hard to see a Francis Ngannou for sure but if Jones gets into PFL maybe we can likely see it,

Can't believe ffor 15 years he managed to be undefeated. I actually thought he'd lose against Gane for the first time I think his fellow MMA star Bisping said it as well and I believe it too. Maybe because I wanted to win the odds.

We could be disappointed once again to bank on Aspinall. Jones still has the reach advantage and he could also do what he did to Gane. Big guy taking down the other aka Khaabib style.

Jon Jones always find a way to win and no one managed to prove that wrong for 15 years and for someone to be on the top of the game for this long is a testimony for his greatness. Even i had my doubts against Gane as he was moving up in weight division and Gane was really fast for a Heavyweight but he just shut everything down but a fight against Aspinall would be a big challenge considering he is really fast for his size. Sadly we wont be seeing the Ngannou fight and even if he fights him, there is no way Ngannou is going to beat Jones.

From what I have seen because of Tom Aspinall's speed he likely getting his opponent a faster finish so he is that good of a fighter, and what I want to see is a Tom Aspinall VS Cyril Gane fight I am curious to see this fight but for sure because of Tom Aspinall's wrestling which is still the weakness of Cyril Gane then for me Tom Aspinall will likely win that fight, he might be even great than Jon Jones, there will be a lot of people that might disagree with me that Tom Aspinall could be great than Jon Jones, he could likely finish Jones for sure Aspinall has an unusual speed even with that kind of injury from his fight against Curtis Blaydes he still has that unusual speed that is not normal with the Heavyweight division, but for sure Ciryl Gane and Jon Jones can match that speed of his,


This means the heavyweight is not that exciting, unlike with the lower division most fighters are well-rounded mostly pure wrestling will beat pure striker, but a well-rounded can be very exciting to watch, In most divisions we will witness fights that go the distance while in the heavyweight 1 punch is what a fighter needs to knockout or defeat his opponent, but for sure the UFC will be giving us a fight that will surely excites us to watch the heavyweight division again I think they have put Jon Jones in this division for the Division to be more exciting, and now that Aspinall is here I think that fight will be an awesome one,


Whoa! I thought that they changed the Co-Main Event with Rob Font vs Deiveson Figueiredo but Bobby Green is just eager to fight as now he will have Jalin Turner as his opponent, for sure if Bobby Green lost to this one that will be a big upset for sure Jalin Turner will only have 1 week to prepare against Bobby Green that will be a hard fight as Green is a very unpredictable fighter,

Bro I think it should be Dan Hooker vs Bobby Green. Or is there a notification about a fighter change? Sorry if I'm wrong bro.  

Note: I got the news late. It turns out the fight had indeed been changed and Jalin Turner only had one week to prepare. Sorry

I am quite interested and excited about the main event and co-main event at Fight Night this time. Dariush is a great wrestler at Lightweight. And Tsarukyan is an interesting fighter because he has fought Makhacev and can handle Makhachev's level of wrestling. But Tsarukyan once lost against Gamrot and Dariush once beat Gamrot. Isn't this very interesting?

As for the Hooker vs Green match, I see this as a fight between a fighter who once shone at Lightweight against a fighter who just has a good record in the UFC (Green). Honestly I didn't follow some of Green's previous fights so CMIIW.

^  Yup!  I've been looking into that a fews hours ago too.  Pantoja is in the co main event to defend his 125 belt vs Royval.  I like both these guys so it should be a fun one.  Luque vs Ian Garry will def be a banger.  I think it's gonna be one of those matches that will throw Garry off of his game because Luque could make it dirty.  Josh Emmet vs Chikadze could be a good one.  Menefield vs Jacoby is decent.  Ulanbekov vs Durden is low level but could be entertaining.  Randy Brown vs Salikhov is the first match of the prelims?  Massive disrespect imho, it should be way higher in the roster.  

Date:  Saturday, December 2
Main Card (PPV):  6:00pm EST
Preliminary Card (ESPN/ESPN+):  4:00pm EST
Venue:  Moody Center, Austin, Texas



Main Card (PPV)
Beneil Dariush vs Arman Tsarukyan
Jalin Turner vs Bobby Green
Rob Font vs Deiveson Figueiredo
Sean Brady vs Kelvin Gastelum
Punahele Soriano vs Dustin Stoltzfus
Khalil Rountree Jr. vs Azamat Murzakanov

Preliminary Card (ESPN/ESPN+)
Clay Guida vs Joaquim Silva
Miesha Tate vs Julia Avila
Zach Reese vs Cody Brundage
Drakkar Klose vs Joe Solecki
Steve Garcia vs Melquizael Costa
Rodolfo Bellato vs Ihor Potieria
Wellington Turman vs Jared Gooden
Veronica Hardy vs Jamey-Lyn Horth

^  Damn...  Dan Hooker pulled out.  Jalin Turner is replacing him.  ;/

While waiting for next UFC event, I was scrolling calendar of next events and found out that during UFC 296 Edwards vs Covington, there are really cool fights are scheduled. Despite Ferguson vs Pimblett fight (the fight I both wait and dont want to watch), Shavkat Rakhomonov and Wonder boy are fighting. Welterweight rank5 vs rank6. If Thomson fought last time last year, then I happen to catch myself thinking that I havent seen Rakhmonov for a very long time. Even though he fought in march. I am starting to miss that Kazakh

I will be your google search for today. Just hit "I'm Feeling lucky".



The answer is simple and trivial - $money$. https://www.tiktok.com/@diversemma/video/7213504929783221509. Here is a bit more if you are kind 4-eyed guy. Dont know if this is true, because the reason hate is so far-fetched. I would not sucker punch guy on a street and be endangered to get into jail if that guys owes to my friend money. Its their business after all. I would go find a lawyer and try to get money with his help (or fail like Lobov-McGegor-Proper 12 case lol )

^  He's already in physical therapy rn.  So it would take prolly 6 months for him to be fully ok and then finding a spot for him in the roster of events will prolly take a couple of months, fight camp would be around three months...  So I think around 1.5 years.  Lolol.  At the earliest maybe he'll be back by December next year?  And that's a maybe...

Anyway, here's a good one.  Lol.  These guys used to be best friends.  Not sure why Masvidal hates Covington now.

UFC Free Fight:  Covington vs Masvidal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkIDNdmWFHc

Early lines for Edwards vs Covington are 1.79 and 2.04 respectively.  :/  What do you guys think?

That can be like 1 fight only Imho it would take a year for him to recover from injury and prepare for the fight. In a year, there would no Stipe in UFC. The whole ranking position would change twice till he get ready for a fight. And I am sure that he wont agree to fight someone low ranked. Stipe needs to have a fight as quick as possible. That 2.5 year pause is a terrible hit on his career and skill. And I feel like Stipe would lose to anyone from top5 right now. By the time Jones would be ready, Stipe might be on the bottom of ranking table if not retired.

Yes, I also understand that the purpose of having an interim title is as replacement for the main belt held by the champion and currently the owner of the belt is Jones who is injured, but before fighting Aspinall he has a schedule against Stipe Miocic so Aspinall has to wait or do some future fight.
Wouldn't having more fights be better because Aspinall can actually train and prepare himself when he has to fight Jones in the future?
Jones vs Stipe would be much more interesting than Jones vs Aspinall and this is why the UFC is really putting their fight first rather than having to put him up against the interim title holder, isn't it about the money? and Jones vs Stipe could make more money.

There will not be two parallel belt titles in one weight class and they will just have to wait for the UFC decision to schedule the fight.
As I said before, Jones vs Stipe will be prioritized before the actual title holder meets the interim title holder.
But this is quite interesting because there will be two heavyweight title fights in the near future.

Agree. I wouldn't say Jones is in his prime, but he's still the most dangerous guy in the UFC and, with the right mind set and motivation, he can still compete for at least 2-3 more years at the highest level. Moving up to heavyweight was a smart move.
A fight with Aspinall is a must and I still hope it will happen instead of Jones/Miocic. And if he defeats Aspinall, return of Francis would be the absolute best scenario, but I have my doubts whether we'll ever see him in the UFC again. I don't think UFC would sign him up for a one fight only, and I don't think Francis would be interested in any long term contract with all the usual restrictions attached.

I think Jones still has 'it' as a fighter.  I kinda had my doubts before Gane, but after Gane he showed that he's still at the top of his game.  And Gane is one of the best MMA heavy weights in the world.  Nobody expected Jones to finish him that fast.

And we've already seen Jones at his worst and still managed to win.  If he wins vs Aspinall then there's only one fight to make for Jones...  A match up vs Ngannou.

If you think that Tom backfiring Jon Jones will end his career, you are very wrong, dude. Jon Jones has one of the best UFC stats, he is a pure beast machine that destroys everybody. Even if he has one lose, how do you think that will end his career? There we have people with multiple loses like Nate Diaz and they still get millions of dollars in fights. Here we have Tony Ferguson, Conor McGregor, Volkanovski and many more who will sell the most show tickets and earn the most money, they are still one of the most demandable fighters and how do you dare to say that one loss will end Jon Jones's career? No way man but this will definitely build and give a huge boost to Tom's career but I don't think that will happen, Jon Jones is still a beast, it's not only about training, he is very talented, this guy has ideal body structure and ideal force to beat the shit out of any UFC fighter and don't forget that he is in UFC heavyweight division.

Why not ? UFC already have and had Michael Bisping, who was a middleweight champion. He even defended his belt against Henderson in UK. This was their second fight and Bisping avenged his loss in first fight via a huge KO. So Dana is ok with UK market. How can Dana disagree not to be on UK market, when they had events in different cities ?

Maybe I dont understand what you meant under "UK market" ? Maybe this is UK fighters in general? That he would rather see a non-UK fighter being a champ/becoming a champ non in UK?

Anyway, Jon Jones next fight 99% is going to be in Vegas

Two champion in one division is great. After all the other one is inactive and they can be activated when someone with a potential PPV money maker comes up.
Stipe is arguably the greatest in UFC HW but of course, Stipe isn't what he was at this point. They could have done this fight a long time ago but why did Dana have to wait?

No one wants to see Stipe fight at this point due to his age but because this is a legacy fight as Dana said, it would happen and make Jones the Goat.
They didn't make it easy for Tom to rise in UFC, he was on his winning streak and then matched to one of the toughest Blaydes.

People want to see Jones vs Aspinall of course, will Dana agree to be on the UK market? Most likely not

The thing is, everybody knows and expects Stipe to be an easy fight for Jones. Jon tries to wrap it up as fighting against the heavyweight GOAT, but that's simply not true. Stipe was great but he's effectively retired and going back to the octagon only for the money.
With that in mind, I'm not so sure if the pay would be higher for Stipe than for Aspinall. Tom made his name quite quickly and everybody knows he's the real challenge, defeating him would undoubtedly prove that Jones is the greatest in the world. I know which fight I'd prefer to see and I'm sure most of the UFC fans would agree.


Nah, I don't see it. Just because Tom injured himself in that fight doesn't mean Blaydes deserves to fight the (interim) champion.
I don't agree Jones should've been stripped, but he should definitely be facing the interim belt holder immediately after his recovery.

Exactly. If we ask some random UFC fan who has Aspinall beaten, he would hardly name any 3 fighters, and they probably won be from top5 heavyweights. But that is also a curse of current heavyweight division in general. Everyone knows Jones and Ngannou and connect them with UFC heavyweights. But Ngannou is no longer in UFC and Jones is not much of a fighter (more like a troublemaker). Who else we have? Miocic is old. Pavlovich recently lost to Aspinall. For majority, everyone else are decent, good, average. Or lets say victory over them wont impress much.

Yup, there are still a lot of question marks on Aspinall as we've not seen much of him in the cage cos he's finished all his opponents in less that three rounds or so.  Kindly check if I'm wrong but on the top of my head, I don't remember anybody really testing him.  He got a bit tired vs Arlovski but then finished him early at R2 with a rear naked choke.

Early finishes usually means suspect cardio at later rounds.  :/

But then again all those early finishes could mean that those opponents were not in his level.  So dunno...

For sure the next event for the UFC will be UFC Fight Night: Dariush vs. Tsarukyan and it will be on December 2, so yeah it is a long wait so I watch other promotions like the PFL which I have already made my bet, for their upcoming event this week, here is the thread for the other MMA promotions, https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63190148

And just like you, I am also on to F1 and right now the latest grand prix is full of controversies and many fans are upset for sure and think that Charles Leclerc would win that one because he is doing great with the practice and qualifying but again Max Verstappen never give up and still manage to win in the Las Vegas GP,


Businesswise for sure but not what fans want as many still don't want to see Stipe Miocic for me I can be OK with it as for sure Stipe Miocic will need that money for his retirement for sure the UFC still wants to cash in Jon Jones, but his injury could be that great if he can recover fast for sure we will be an early next year fight between Jones and Miocic,

And yes Blaydes VS Aspinall is indeed a great idea of a not-finish fight for sure and it will be an interesting fight as for sure we will see if Blaydes has indeed a metal leg,