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They normally have a nutritionist checking on their diet to achieve a certain weight.  All they need is to follow the recommendation of the nutritionist, Michel didn't do it right but sits in front of his TV, smokes up his weed, pork rinds, and rootbeers. It would have been great if UFC regularly updates the fighters so they could see whos going to make it or not.
They could have asked Michael Page for short notice, his Bellator contract expired already.

Fighters with the style of Thompson are not seen often in the cage anymore.

I'm not a fighter and I don't practice any style of fighting, but I suppose the fight against gaining or losing weight must be the hardest part for professional athletes, it's not easy having to maintain the same weight, while maintaining the same weight it means that athletes have to eat the same amount of things and maintain the same level of training and the same lifestyle, this probably ends up being tiring for them in the long run, although they are professionals and earn money, it still is a great effort they are making. I wonder how many of these athletes manage to save money to have a good retirement after all the effort they are making

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CJ Vergara - Vinicius Salvador

it will be a somewhat unpredictable fight despite CJ Vergara coming to this fight as a slight favorite. Vinicius Salvador is a 27 year old fighter who was born in Brazil. and despite his age he already has a long professional career, 9 years as a professional fighter, and over those 9 years as a professional fighter he had 19 fights and won in 14 fights, losing in only 5 fights and something very interesting and that of the 14 wins he had, 13 were by knockout and only one was by submission. on the other side we have CJ Vergara who is 32 years old and was born in the united states of america, and has 11 years of professional career and in these 11 years of professional career he had 16 fights of which he won 11 fights and lost in 4 and had a draw. well my guess is that Vinicius Salvador wins this fight, the bookmakers are putting him at odds of @2.00 and he is not the favorite, but even so I see him with better skills to win

That is easy to explain. A lot of fighters dont fit in the weight class they participate from the very beginning. For example they weigh 95kg off season, drop to 88-90 during camp, and they have about 24h to cut more 4-6 if they want to fit into 84 to be middleweight. The problem is that they are already dont have extra weight to cut. They could have done weight cutting during whole week, but they would be more exhausted. But if they cut 5+ before the fight, they can get it back during the night and morning. They can be on a diet and be 84 already on a weight-ins day, but such extreme cutting is like legal cheat. Because it is easier to beat smaller guy than big guy (everyone remember school and kinder garden times, when we all were picking on smaller and younger kids).

I absolutely do not understand how a professional fighter can not make weight. If you are literally a professional fighter. Making weight is the primary thing that is going to make you able to fight someone. If someone cannot make weight, the UFC basically has to pause the promotion of that fight and they have to make other plans about the fight. So of course the fighters who cannot make weight are going to be in the bad list of Dana White. And I don’t mind if fighter missing wait 2/3 times in his career. But anything more than that is not acceptable.

I think we had a picture here of Lewis pre and post times when it was found that he has started running. If not mistaken, the last time he fought he already was more lean than he was and we discussed that this would affect his power.

https://talksport-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/talksport.com/sport/mma/1297409/derrick-lewis-body-transformation-ufc-vegas-68/amp/?amp_js_v=0.1&usqp=mq331AQA# <—- that is how he looked last time he fought. 6 more months and now wonder he has got abs.

The Wonderboy fight being cancelled is a kick in the teeth. I was looking forward to that fight, since both of the fighters are some of my favourite fighters, and stylistically it would have made for a interesting match up. I was going with Wonderboy to get the win, but it was a big chance for Michel.

Michel, messed up though. This isn't the first time he has struggled to make the weight, and I expect he'll be in Dana's bad books for a while due to it. Good on Wonderboy rejecting the fight based on principles, though. Not making weight is part of the job, and I can understand missing it from time to time, but it shouldn't become a habit. Hopefully, Michel gets a wake up call, people sometimes get too complacent, and too comfortable especially since there's a lot of pressure on fighters to fight those that miss weight anyway due to all the work they put in, and for the fans.

Lololol!  Nice gif.  It would be exactly how I'd be doing it.    And Lewis has abs!  Who would've thunk?!  

As for Bonfim, I watched his last couple of matches and Giles'.  He should win and he's the pick but I don't think he deserves the price tag of being a huge favorite.  We'll see...

Here are the ceremonial weigh ins and the final face offs.

UFC 291:  Ceremonial Weigh In
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlvnyFVdXkM

Weigh in results.  A couple of guys missed weight with Thompson vs Michel Pereira getting canceled.

Dustin Poirier (155) vs Justin Gaethje (156)
Jan Blachowicz (205) vs Alex Pereira (205.5)
Michel Pereira (174)* vs Stephen Thompson (170.5)
Tony Ferguson (155) vs Bobby Green (155.5)
Michael Chiesa (170) vs Kevin Holland (169.5)
Gabriel Bonfim (170) vs Trevin Giles (170)
Derrick Lewis (263.5) vs Marcos Rogerio de Lima (262)
Roman Kopylov (185) vs Claudio Ribeiro (185.5)
Darrius Flowers (170.5) vs Jake Matthews (170)
Vinicius Salvador (128.5)* vs CJ Vergara (125.5)
Uros Medic (170.5) vs Matthew Semelsberger (169.5)
Priscila Cachoeira (125) vs Miranda Maverick (125.5)

*Missed weight

Last call to play the Multi Master!  GLHF!

UFC 291:  Multi Master Challenge
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sportsbetio-ufc-291-multi-master-challenge-saturday-5460914


No I'm posting a pic so just go pretend as if it didn't happen. 

And Ferguson vs Green could go the distance imho.

Not saying that Pereira doesn't have a chance, but I'd go with Jan on this one. Partly because he's my compatriot, but also because his striking game is very solid, many forget that he fought Adesanya standing for like 3 rounds. But if he's in trouble, he could always take it to the ground. I'm sure Pereira worked hard on his takedown defence, but I don't think he'll be able to stop Jan.


As posted above, this one has been cancelled due to Pereira missing the weight by 3lb.

Going with these 3 fights that I think may win in the end for the UFC 291

Dustin Poirier (1.69) VS Justin Gaethje (2.28)

Man this fight surely is going to be a banger and this one is now a rematch because their 1st fight was a win for Dustin Poirier with a KO on punches in the 2nd round so this could be a repeat or can we see a new one because back then Justin Gaethje is not fighting technically back then but right now Gaethje has already changed his style and now fighting more technically that is why for this fight I am still for Dustin Poirier for sure Poirier is going this long enough and being technical in every aspect of his being, so my pick is Dustin Poirier



Jan Błachowicz (1.90)VS Alex Pereira(1.99)

now for this fight, there are 2 things that could have happened in this fight and we could see domination for every single fighter if they stay in engaging with their expertise, for this fight, Jan Blachowicz could be dominant with his wrestling games and sure topple Alex Pereira on his feet he can surely do it, while we all know about Alex Pereira and his stand-up performance with Israel Adesanya he could also topple a dominant stand-up to defeat Blachowicz, for me my pick is Alex Pereira,



Stephen Thompson (1.70) VS Michel Pereira (2.26)

This fight, this is going to be a pure striking of a match Michel Pereira has some take-downs but he is not a true-to-the-bone wrestler and I think Stephen Thompson would expose this, but he can not underestimate Pereira's unpredictable kicks and punches Stephen Thompson is not a slack he can surely tremendously become technical with his striking this is going to be a great showcase of striking, where Michel Pereira could pull a great leaping kick but for this fight, I think I will go with Stephen Thompson for this fight,

It's just a shit talk. Cerrone knows there's no chance of that happening. Of course he would want that as it'd mean a huge payout, way bigger than any of his UFC fights.
But if it was for real, I'd be betting on Tate if it was a kick-boxing/thai-boxing fight and on Cerrone if it was MMA.


3 pounds in a welterweight is a lot. It's not just about the advantage of being heavier, but more about not having to massively strain your body to lose that weight. Maybe Thompson did not agree to fight in catchweight, probably he'd still get paid something just for showing up and being ready to fight. Or possibly UFC just wanted to send a message that making weight should be taken seriously.

The fight between Thompson and Pereira is cancelled due to Pereira did not make weight. This is the second time they must have foughts (first time at ufc 289). So ufc decided to cancel that fight (and move Lewis vs de Lima from prelims to main card). That is a strange decision, as Pereira got only 3lb extra. They could make it catchweight fight or cut Pereiras cheque in Thompsons favor.

Nah, he might have used some fat burners, but he said he lost a lot of weight just by not eating. Probably he just wanted to be lighter to not gas out too quickly.
But losing a lot of pounds can have its own disadvantages. Firstly, if the weight cut is due to dehydration, then it makes you more prone to getting knocked out (has something to do with the reduction of brain fluid). But if he does drink a lot but just cuts down on food, then obviously he could end up weaker and low on energy. Hope his team know what they're doing.

Looks like it. Izzy must have pissed his pants every time Alex faceoff with him. He's just glad it's over now and avenge himself. 
Alex may actually KO Jan. He had been training with Teixeira who already fought with Jan.

Spreading my funds to fighters that might just win like Poirier, Michel Pereira, Holland and Bonfim.

What do you think about Derrick Lewis now? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBVW--bVlCc
Steroids? 

Although Poirier undeniably possesses exceptional fighting prowess, in my personal estimation, he surpasses Alex in terms of skill and ability. Don't think Alex will actually be able to beat him in my opinion. But that does not mean I think this fight is going to finish quickly. I honestly believe that this fight has the potential to actually go the distance. But there is also a high chance that we are going to see a knockout in this fight.



Throughout a fighter's career, it holds true that staying relevant is of utmost importance. Otherwise, it does not matter if he can fight well or not, he’s not going to get fights. The fight of business is all about pay per views. I believe he was actually a little scared that if he did not start having relative and popular fights, he was gonna go down in terms of relevance. That’s the way he took the fight a little early.

Green is actually a good striker.  His legs are vulnerable vs leg kicks tho.  Something which Ferguson maaaybe could take advantage of.  But dunno...  When I think of Ferguson I remember the metal pipe he was practicing his leg kicks on.  Lolol.  All in all just enjoy the match and avoid it as far as betting goes.  The event has 11 other match ups to put some action on.  :/

Did the regs itt watch the pre fight press conference?

UFC 291:  Pre Fight Press Conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FX3za6YxK2s

I lean Blachowicz at first glance but after seeing him facing off with Pereira, I change my mind.  Pereira is a big dude who could KO Blachowicz at the first round imo.  

And the weigh show is gonna be live in three hours or so.  Enjoy...

UFC 291:  Live Weigh In Show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tno0slQ26E

El Cucuy isnt the same El Cucuy we remember. Fergusson has lost his last 5 fights. His chin isnt as hard as used to be, and that front kick from Chandler proved that. It might sound sad, but Tony is not ready for current UFC fighters generation. Green is not the best striker, but I think he would either TKO Tony, and once again we gonna see Tony's face being destroyed. I think Tony hasnt recovered from that "alleging uncharacteristic behavior" he has got from 2019. And that truck crash in May 2023.

@OgNasty. I would speculate that Cowboy Cerrone wants a fight, however, he wants the easiest but very popular opponent who can also collect the highest amount of money for him hehehehe.

On UFC 291, my head is shaking very quickly on why El Cuycuy is very underestimated vs. a low ranked fighter Bobby Green. Also, I reckon the Black Beast might also be underestimated against this Marcos who is another low ranked fighter.

Anybody got a take on Donald Cerrone calling out Andrew Tate by saying he would knock the shit out of him? I think Andrew Tate has about 3 inches and 25 pounds on Donald Cerrone. That would be a problem in the boxing ring so I think Tate would take him in a boxing match. MMA though, Cerrone is probably right to think he could kick his ass.

It's not just about wanting to stay relevant or famous just for the sake of it. Careers in professional sports at the top level always have short life-span. And to make a living out of it, you have to earn enough to last you for the rest of your life.
As the proverb says, you need to strike while the iron is hot. Pereira has quite a few fights on his record, but I don't think he was getting paid a lot outside of the UFC. So now, when he finally has an opportunity to fight for decent money, he has to grab every chance and cannot afford to just rest for almost a year.

I was just asking because I was watching a YT video about it and his fight against Jan. People are commenting that he might have trauma after that terrible KO. In the video Alex hardly can't balance himself, he had to have someone beside him. With brain knockout, sports association will warn UFC for abusing talents. If Alex will be knocked out by Jan, fans might bring this issue up.

Anyway, I actually would like the Poirier vs Gaethje fight to last long, they are quite enjoyable to watch in their first fight.  Its Alex vs Jan that might not just be on round 1.