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Quote from: kro55 on October 04, 2023, 11:42:30 AM

Quote from: tokeweed on October 04, 2023, 07:37:38 AM

^ I think the UFC will go for Jones vs Aspinall after Miocic. In Aspinall's last post fight interview, he said he was ready to go for the belt now. As from the interviews prior he was hesitant and kept on saying he needed more time to develop. And I don't think Jones is staying long in the UFC. He'll prolly have a couple more fights in the UFC after Miocic then retire. So yeah I hope the next one is vs Aspinall. He'll be a great champ if he wins.

I think I'd rather see Pavlovich vs Gane. Dunno...

Edit: Just checked the rankings. It looks like Pavlovich should be next for the title as he's ranked higher. And it's Aspinall who should be going for Gane. :/

I think right now, John Jones is the Money fight. So they are going to put him against another fighter who can also generate a good amount of buzz. And I personally think that Aspinall can do that right now. So I personally think that they are going to give him the fight against John Jones. I also agree that John Jones is not going to stay for a long time in the UFC. This time I think he is here for the money. And he is trying to get as much money as he can, actually, I should say, making as much money as he can, while he is still in decent shape.

I don't know if the ranking is going to matter much in this. They are probably going to go with the fight that is going to make them more money.

Aspinall fighting Jones seems a predictable result. Aspinall may like it of course getting a title shot will flatter him but that doesn't mean it's not a mismatch fight.

If Dana really wants a big fight, they should book Jones vs. Ngannou for a cross promotion to make this fight possible. There is nothing more to wait for than this one. HW use to be an exciting class but Dana not making it happen makes the division suck.

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Quote from: tokeweed on October 04, 2023, 07:37:38 AM

^ I think the UFC will go for Jones vs Aspinall after Miocic. In Aspinall's last post fight interview, he said he was ready to go for the belt now. As from the interviews prior he was hesitant and kept on saying he needed more time to develop. And I don't think Jones is staying long in the UFC. He'll prolly have a couple more fights in the UFC after Miocic then retire. So yeah I hope the next one is vs Aspinall. He'll be a great champ if he wins.

I think I'd rather see Pavlovich vs Gane. Dunno...

Edit: Just checked the rankings. It looks like Pavlovich should be next for the title as he's ranked higher. And it's Aspinall who should be going for Gane. :/

I think right now, John Jones is the Money fight. So they are going to put him against another fighter who can also generate a good amount of buzz. And I personally think that Aspinall can do that right now. So I personally think that they are going to give him the fight against John Jones. I also agree that John Jones is not going to stay for a long time in the UFC. This time I think he is here for the money. And he is trying to get as much money as he can, actually, I should say, making as much money as he can, while he is still in decent shape.

I don't know if the ranking is going to matter much in this. They are probably going to go with the fight that is going to make them more money.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on October 03, 2023, 04:38:19 PM

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What Chaarles can do is use his reach, throwing straight jabs while being defensive, always watch out for the TD.

Easier said than done. As soon as Oliveira commits to a punch, Islam will shoot for the legs. Probably he mix some jabs and front kicks, but keeping safe distance for 5 rounds at this level is impossible to pull off.

All Charles needs is to get to Islam with jabs from a distance. Once he sees he hurt Islam, he can then make more combos to end up on Islam's back. Front kicks are hard to catch yes that also can be mixed with his jabs. He just needs one good shot to hurt Islam before going for combos, 5 rounds will be enough to find that shot.

If he gets impatient and carelessly risks again, he'll be submitted. Islam is prepared in all ways, he can even duck a jab, throw a counter from under, and end up lifting Charles.
The odds will probably be Charles 2.00 and Islam 1.40

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^ I think the UFC will go for Jones vs Aspinall after Miocic. In Aspinall's last post fight interview, he said he was ready to go for the belt now. As from the interviews prior he was hesitant and kept on saying he needed more time to develop. And I don't think Jones is staying long in the UFC. He'll prolly have a couple more fights in the UFC after Miocic then retire. So yeah I hope the next one is vs Aspinall. He'll be a great champ if he wins.

I think I'd rather see Pavlovich vs Gane. Dunno...

Edit: Just checked the rankings. It looks like Pavlovich should be next for the title as he's ranked higher. And it's Aspinall who should be going for Gane. :/

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Quote from: owengtam09 on October 02, 2023, 05:27:25 PM

Tom Aspinall has a great come and for me, he vs Jon Jones must come to Fruition for sure I think that Tom Aspinall proved himself when he fought Marcin Tybura for sure but for sure he will be having a hard time with Sergei Pavlovich in my opinion, the power and accuracy is there so there could be a hard time for him to defeat such opponent but this is just my though and I am also wrong about this,

100% agree. Aspinall Vs Jones is an absolute must. Aspinall will probably have to score at least one more high-profile win, as he's not yet hyped up enough to pull out a proper big-money PPV fight. No offense to Stipe, but I think Tom is much better fighter, he's definitely hungrier. If Jon Jones wants to retire as a GOAT in full glory, he will have to face Aspinall, otherwise it will look like he's running away from the real challenge.
Technically Pavlovich would be next for a title shot, but I can't imagine Jones being interested in such fight.

There is also Ciryl Gane in heavyweight roster. What about him? Maybe he is the next to test Aspinall or Pavlovich? I doubt that Gane is gonna have another title fight, but he is top2 right now. Imho he should test someone before a title fight.

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Quote from: owengtam09 on October 02, 2023, 05:27:25 PM

Quote from: bittraffic on October 01, 2023, 09:21:56 PM

Fiziev is still 30. He will comeback after all UFC will handle health care for him. Dana will spend more for him so he can comeback. Spinal made a comeback win after his knee recovery. Can't name someone who hasn't tried coming back for another try after an injury.

This kind of injury though needs a constant check up. Fiziev's career will be short lived though. Probably 5 fight contract when he comes back and maybe UFC will not renew him. Dana will not risk his money for another injury treatment.

Tom Aspinall has a great come and for me, he vs Jon Jones must come to Fruition for sure I think that Tom Aspinall proved himself when he fought Marcin Tybura for sure but for sure he will be having a hard time with Sergei Pavlovich in my opinion, the power and accuracy is there so there could be a hard time for him to defeat such opponent but this is just my though and I am also wrong about this,

Well, back on Rafael Fiziev sure he will return again because Dana White is hands-on with his recovery so he will surely recover but I wish him a fast recovery for sure,

I believe everything is going to depend on how he comes back from his injury. He definitely has time. But obviously the question is, Whether Dana White is going to give him a chance or not. I also think that Dana White is not going to risk his money to give him another chance. Unless he looks in really good physical condition. I believe he is going to get a chance if his physical condition is really good when he comes back from injury. Which I think is probably not very realistic to think about to be honest. But obviously there is a chance.

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Quote from: owengtam09 on October 02, 2023, 05:27:25 PM

Tom Aspinall has a great come and for me, he vs Jon Jones must come to Fruition for sure I think that Tom Aspinall proved himself when he fought Marcin Tybura for sure but for sure he will be having a hard time with Sergei Pavlovich in my opinion, the power and accuracy is there so there could be a hard time for him to defeat such opponent but this is just my though and I am also wrong about this,

100% agree. Aspinall Vs Jones is an absolute must. Aspinall will probably have to score at least one more high-profile win, as he's not yet hyped up enough to pull out a proper big-money PPV fight. No offense to Stipe, but I think Tom is much better fighter, he's definitely hungrier. If Jon Jones wants to retire as a GOAT in full glory, he will have to face Aspinall, otherwise it will look like he's running away from the real challenge.
Technically Pavlovich would be next for a title shot, but I can't imagine Jones being interested in such fight.

Quote from: bittraffic on October 03, 2023, 10:49:57 AM

What Chaarles can do is use his reach, throwing straight jabs while being defensive, always watch out for the TD.

Easier said than done. As soon as Oliveira commits to a punch, Islam will shoot for the legs. Probably he mix some jabs and front kicks, but keeping safe distance for 5 rounds at this level is impossible to pull off.

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Quote from: Rampagoe004 on October 03, 2023, 09:30:07 AM

Quote from: pawel7777 on October 02, 2023, 05:10:44 PM

I don't know, but Volkanovski kind of proved that Islam's strengths can be neutralised. He lost by decision but it was a close fight. I don't see Charles being able to copy Volk's tactic or do it better though. There's always a chance of winning by a lucky punch, or an injury. I have a gut feeling that Oliveira can pull a big surprise, but, at the same time, I can't imagine how can he actually win it. He will probably focus on keeping his distance and surviving the first few rounds, to not get finished early as the last time.

What Volkanovski did is very difficult for other fighters to imitate. Volk once weighed comparable to a heavyweight when he was a Rugby player. So you can imagine how dense Volk's body is. If you look closely, it looks like Volk doesn't have a neck because it's so short. And that makes it very difficult for wrestlers to attempt submissions. In my opinion, Volk can compete with Islam because he is indeed The Great.

LOL there is nothing to choke, right? Can't believe I'm reading this. No one yet has said this to Volk? This will really crack him.
But true that Charles will not be able to do just what Volk did against Islam. Rogan acknowledged Volk won although just in his POV. What Chaarles can do is use his reach, throwing straight jabs while being defensive, always watch out for the TD.

Green and Ferguson are the ones fed to the new kids. What did these guys do to deserve punishment from Dana?

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Quote from: pawel7777 on October 02, 2023, 05:10:44 PM

I don't know, but Volkanovski kind of proved that Islam's strengths can be neutralised. He lost by decision but it was a close fight. I don't see Charles being able to copy Volk's tactic or do it better though. There's always a chance of winning by a lucky punch, or an injury. I have a gut feeling that Oliveira can pull a big surprise, but, at the same time, I can't imagine how can he actually win it. He will probably focus on keeping his distance and surviving the first few rounds, to not get finished early as the last time.

What Volkanovski did is very difficult for other fighters to imitate. Volk once weighed comparable to a heavyweight when he was a Rugby player. So you can imagine how dense Volk's body is. If you look closely, it looks like Volk doesn't have a neck because it's so short. And that makes it very difficult for wrestlers to attempt submissions. In my opinion, Volk can compete with Islam because he is indeed The Great.

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Quote from: Rampagoe004 on October 02, 2023, 10:18:05 AM

I know Dawson won't beat Green by knockout but if I were betting then I would bet Dawson would win by Unanimous Decision. Dawson, who is in his prime, is my consideration in choosing him. Green is too old to compete at the top level. I respect Green as a tough fighter with 30 wins. I also think it's time for him to retire or his report card will be tarnished with defeat.

Green has 30 wins and that's a nice record, but is important to mention that he has 14 losses, so, if we compare that with the 20 wins from Dawson and only one loss, that makes Dawson the huge favorite. And as we can see in the casinos, the odds are x1.24 vs x4.

And i agree, it will be hard to see a win by KO, I think the winning method will be by Decision because at the weight of 70kg is hard to see a powerful KO.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on September 30, 2023, 04:05:40 PM

Assuming Oliveira loses, there isn't too many options for his next fight. He could fight either Poirier, Gamrot, or Tsarukyan (if he beats Dariush). He already fought Poirier and Gamrot won against Tsarukyan, so Gamrot is probably the most likely one to get that fight. He knows this, that's why he called out Oliveira after defeating Fiziev.
Of course there's also Chandler, but he'll be patiently waiting for McGregor and he also already got defeated by Oliveira, and UFC can't keep re-running the same fights over and over again, they need to let some fresh blood in the top 5.

I am seeing Charles Oliveira being defeated again in this fight with Islam Makhachev, for me the level of wrestling for Islam Makhachev is that huge for Charles Oliveira to understand but I could also be wrong here as it was a dominant fight that he showcased against Beneil Dariush, but for me If Charles Oliveira got an upgrade with his initial striking, power, and ground game for sure Islam Makhachev will be on a different level as well, but for sure I am still be going with the Dagestan Fighter Islam Makhachev for sure,

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Finally we have the UFC back next weekend ladies and gents... Wink

The main event is intruiging as before seeing Dawson win vs Ismagulov, I'd say Bobby Green gets the W. But after Ismagulov, a couple of questions... Did Dawson really improve a whole bunch after leaving James Krause or was Ismagulov just declining as a fighter..? :/ I guess we'll see it next weekend. Lol.

I'm also looking at a couple of underdogs. Will watch some of their past matches in MMACore and see how I feel about it after. Could be value.

For me, the Main Event is really juicy but for sure but I enjoy the events that don't have any juicy line-ups as long as there are Fighting Kittens on that card I am pretty much excited about the weight-ins and the whole fight for certain fighting kittens and in this event, Karolina Kowalkiewicz and Diana Belbiţă in the preliminary Card is what I think the jam pack card for a kitten fight, expecting a great card for sure,

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Quote from: bittraffic on October 01, 2023, 09:21:56 PM

Fiziev is still 30. He will comeback after all UFC will handle health care for him. Dana will spend more for him so he can comeback. Spinal made a comeback win after his knee recovery. Can't name someone who hasn't tried coming back for another try after an injury.

This kind of injury though needs a constant check up. Fiziev's career will be short lived though. Probably 5 fight contract when he comes back and maybe UFC will not renew him. Dana will not risk his money for another injury treatment.

Tom Aspinall has a great come and for me, he vs Jon Jones must come to Fruition for sure I think that Tom Aspinall proved himself when he fought Marcin Tybura for sure but for sure he will be having a hard time with Sergei Pavlovich in my opinion, the power and accuracy is there so there could be a hard time for him to defeat such opponent but this is just my though and I am also wrong about this,

Well, back on Rafael Fiziev sure he will return again because Dana White is hands-on with his recovery so he will surely recover but I wish him a fast recovery for sure,

Quote from: Hirose UK on October 02, 2023, 02:46:29 AM

Grant Dawson vs Bobby Green can actually give you satisfaction when watching them fight and I sure one of the two will end tragically with KO defeat.
Dawson is a fighter who doesn't easily let his opponents put up more resistance and he also has a 12 fight unbeaten record but Green has also managed to become a fighter who can beat several other great fighters so this fight will be quite hot.
There is slight chance that Dawson will be able to beat Green by KO.

For sure both fighters are a treat when they face each other and we have Bobby Green who is eager to fight for sure but I really don't think that he is able to make it fast to a much higher ranking as he is nearing the end of his prime and father time is in his doorstep for sure, we can not be so sure as Grant Dawson is much younger than him so this could end up in Dawson's favor,

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Quote from: strunberg on October 02, 2023, 11:14:15 AM

Yeah as I mentioned, in the lightweight class there are Dustin, Justin, Dariush and Chandler who round out the top 5. They are all monsters. That's why I say that if new blood is needed then these monsters should fight with new faces in this class in the top 10 like Gamrot, Fiziev, Dawson and Tsarukyan. Beneil already fought Gamrot and Justin fought Fiziev. Is it possible to make Tsarukyan vs. Dustin and Chandler vs. Dawson (if he wins against Green) fights?

Fiziev will be out for quite some time, so I wouldn't count him for any foreseeable match ups. Dariush was rumoured to fight Tsarukyan, but it doesn't seem to be official yet.

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Islam vs Oliveira 2 can be said to be the most awaited fight this year. Although I have a hard time seeing how Oliveira will beat Makhacev. Seriously Makhacev's only defeat was 7 years ago and that too via knockout. And Makhacev now has much better striking. I don't know maybe someone can tell me how Oliveira will win this match?

I don't know, but Volkanovski kind of proved that Islam's strengths can be neutralised. He lost by decision but it was a close fight. I don't see Charles being able to copy Volk's tactic or do it better though. There's always a chance of winning by a lucky punch, or an injury. I have a gut feeling that Oliveira can pull a big surprise, but, at the same time, I can't imagine how can he actually win it. He will probably focus on keeping his distance and surviving the first few rounds, to not get finished early as the last time.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on October 02, 2023, 02:46:29 AM

I not sure whether they deserve or can enter the top 5 of the Lightweight division because look there are a number of great fighters who might be difficult to beat and in first place is Islam Makhachev and second is Oliviera.
If you want fight that is very fierce and controversial, then Islam vs Oliviera will be the most eagerly awaited main card schedule because Islam will defend his belt and Oliviera will try hard to take the belt from Islam Makhachev.

Yeah as I mentioned, in the lightweight class there are Dustin, Justin, Dariush and Chandler who round out the top 5. They are all monsters. That's why I say that if new blood is needed then these monsters should fight with new faces in this class in the top 10 like Gamrot, Fiziev, Dawson and Tsarukyan. Beneil already fought Gamrot and Justin fought Fiziev. Is it possible to make Tsarukyan vs. Dustin and Chandler vs. Dawson (if he wins against Green) fights?

Islam vs Oliveira 2 can be said to be the most awaited fight this year. Although I have a hard time seeing how Oliveira will beat Makhacev. Seriously Makhacev's only defeat was 7 years ago and that too via knockout. And Makhacev now has much better striking. I don't know maybe someone can tell me how Oliveira will win this match?

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Quote from: Hirose UK on October 02, 2023, 02:46:29 AM

Grant Dawson vs Bobby Green can actually give you satisfaction when watching them fight and I sure one of the two will end tragically with KO defeat.
Dawson is a fighter who doesn't easily let his opponents put up more resistance and he also has a 12 fight unbeaten record but Green has also managed to become a fighter who can beat several other great fighters so this fight will be quite hot.
There is slight chance that Dawson will be able to beat Green by KO.

I know Dawson won't beat Green by knockout but if I were betting then I would bet Dawson would win by Unanimous Decision. Dawson, who is in his prime, is my consideration in choosing him. Green is too old to compete at the top level. I respect Green as a tough fighter with 30 wins. I also think it's time for him to retire or his report card will be tarnished with defeat.

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Quote from: strunberg on October 01, 2023, 10:04:36 AM

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and UFC can't keep re-running the same fights over and over again, they need to let some fresh blood in the top 5.

If we talk about fresh blood, there are Gamrot, Fiziev, and Dawson who in my opinion have the potential to be in the top 5 of the LW division. But the problem is that currently those in the top 5 are truly monsters. Therefore I am actually really looking forward to fighting with fresh blood, Gaetjhe once beat Fiziev and Dariush won over Gamrot so I think Oliveira, The Diamond and The Iron should choose new opponents.

I not sure whether they deserve or can enter the top 5 of the Lightweight division because look there are a number of great fighters who might be difficult to beat and in first place is Islam Makhachev and second is Oliviera.
If you want fight that is very fierce and controversial, then Islam vs Oliviera will be the most eagerly awaited main card schedule because Islam will defend his belt and Oliviera will try hard to take the belt from Islam Makhachev.

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Finally we have the UFC back next weekend ladies and gents... Wink

Honestly, I'm not that interested in Fight Night this time. What I mean is that I'll still watch the games but there aren't any games that I'm excited about. Hopefully I can enjoy this UFC card.

Grant Dawson vs Bobby Green can actually give you satisfaction when watching them fight and I sure one of the two will end tragically with KO defeat.
Dawson is a fighter who doesn't easily let his opponents put up more resistance and he also has a 12 fight unbeaten record but Green has also managed to become a fighter who can beat several other great fighters so this fight will be quite hot.
There is slight chance that Dawson will be able to beat Green by KO.

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Fiziev is still 30. He will comeback after all UFC will handle health care for him. Dana will spend more for him so he can comeback. Spinal made a comeback win after his knee recovery. Can't name someone who hasn't tried coming back for another try after an injury.

This kind of injury though needs a constant check up. Fiziev's career will be short lived though. Probably 5 fight contract when he comes back and maybe UFC will not renew him. Dana will not risk his money for another injury treatment.

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I also like Tony Ferguson to win this

I will rephrase a bit my post. It is not really that I want Tony to win (if fact I just really want him to retire already), but I want Paddy to lose Cheesy

Just replace Tony with other fighter and I would cheer him to win. Maybe Paddy isnt a bad guy IRL, but I really dont like his "Im a big star" behaviour without actually having a strong opponent. Dont like that UFC tried to create a huge star from him. In general, his achievements in UFC does not match his king status Cheesy

Should we move on to next event or it is kinda a filler before real events? Cheesy

Well, I also don't want Tony Ferguson to actually win but I don't want Paddy Pimblett to win this as more than I want Ferguson to win this much, for sure winning against Ferguson was the UFC wants Paddy Pimblett to do so he can increase his rankings for sure but I really don't like that to really happen and more than I want Tony Ferguson to stop his delusion in keeping on fighting I actually don't want Paddy Pimblett Delusion that he can be rank higher than Jared Gordon for Lightweight division for sure,

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For sure no one wants this to happen and after that injury, he will surely have a long-term recovery that could also end up not returning at all but I surely want Fiziev to return for sure Islam Makhachev has to say Fiziev as he has predicted that Rafael Fiziev will not make it into Rank 5 for sure and this has happened for sure there is a reason for this and recently Rafael Fiziev have talked about his injury and it was a torn ACL for sure, and said that he will surely return stronger than ever,

It was really unfortunate for Rafael Fiziev to get injured like that and nobody wants that because there are certain fighters and having that kind of injury sometimes there are no returning from this kind of injury, so for sure this is really unfortunate but for me, I want to see Rafael Fiziev again certainly for me he won that fight against Gamrot, but for sure the fight ended in him getting injured so nobody really thinks that Rafael Fiziev really wins the 1st round because there are certainly wrestling in Gamrot's Arsenal that he still not using,

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