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Adesanya is also in the gym training and preparing he was never lazy with that part, but I think he likes media attention more than Pereira does.
It would be better for MMA sports and this division if Adesanya wins the fight, that way we could have story between this guys continue, but I am not sure if Izzy can do it.
I want to see final faceoff and interviews before making my final prediction, now I am watching UFC 287 Embedded Vlog Series Episode 3:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cf5a-o5np4E

Let boxers fight in octagon with MMA or mixed rules, and we see who wins then.

Language barrier I think is one of the reasons why some good fighters does not have title fights for long period. Like you have mentioned Makhachev. He is like a robot that steps inside octagon, wins opponent and goes home. And on post and pre fight interviews we get "I wanna thank my team, my coach, Khabib" and that is it. Boring. That does not really trigger to buy ticket for his next fight.

Pereira should take lessons from Costa https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r19z60UfYv4. But jokes aside, A+ Pereira for starting and trying to learn English.

I really like Demetrious Johnson and it is not fair for the UFC to ignore him just because he doesn't reach a lot of audience going with his fight, just because he doesn't really like a lot of drama it is not really fair for him, I really like how he takes care of his family providing food on the table because that is what I am doing right now, and I love my family and seeing his life I think we are both the same in terms in taking care of our family that is why I can relate to him, well let's just say there are many people that are enjoying the drama and trash talking a lot more, they really love Israel Adesanya just because he can talk fluent English and now I know why Khabib Nurmagomedov always says to Makhachev to learn your English language, but I think Alex Pereira is getting there look at this video on youtube

Well there is the unfair treatment for many fighters in the UFC, if you can not provide the hype then Dana White will surely be unfair and will not like a fighter like that,


Well, you are right if UFC fighters will surely keep on losing to boxers then that is not a great image for the company, but I think that the UFC should access if their fighters can make a good shot with a boxer, in the case of Mayweather there is a huge gap with the skill of Mayweather in boxing than Conor McGregor, many can clearly see it, there are just hype of Curiority for many people that don't have a clue about MMA and boxing but I think Dana White could surely see the result but he doesn't but with the Francis Ngannou VS Tyson Fury fight for me there is a chance for Ngannou, this is just my opinion, Francis Ngannou is a smart fighter, but because of what happen he Dana White doesn't allow such thing to happen, but for me that could be a potential big fight,

It is true that people do not want to watch fighters who just don't talk trash about his opponent. Very few people actually want to see good fighting. I am not saying the fighters who talk trash a lot are not good. We all know about Chael Sonnen. He was really great with trash-talking. And he also generated a lot of buzz around his fight every time. It is always fun to see a great build-up around a fight. Personally, I don't like too much trash-talking. But of course, what I like is not going to be liked by the majority probably.




Does anyone else think that the skills of Israel Adesanya are not as good as they were before or is it just me? I really feel like he is not as good as he was before anymore. Of course, it is not like he is not good anymore. But I certainly feel that he has already been accepted by the people as one of the best in the world. Probably that has also gone into his head. He should of course stop thinking so much about promoting the fight and actually train hard enough for his opponent. Because I certainly think it is not going to be easy for him to beat Alex Pereira.

I also heard that the owner of UFC Endeavor has bought over 50% of WWE's shares and they stated that the UFC and WWE have now merged and become one container.
I don't know whether this development can have a positive impact on the UFC or not because these two sports events are very different.
UFC is a free fighting sport that really uses self-defense skills, while WWE is a sporting event that tends to be entertainment because the fights are artificial settings or fights to entertain the audience.
But strangely there are several fighting figures who support the merging of these two sports events such as Conor McGregor and he stated that he wants to be one of the new champions.
But indeed there are some WWE fighters who become UFC fighters as well as Brock Lesnar who fights at heavyweight.

But if once again Izzy fails to win, it will be different for him. Some are saying he will have to move to 206 lbs but there are more tough fighters in this weight class.

True that he is fast and stronger. He dominated the fight for at least 4 rounds, he could have won the fight if he just didn't roll back and still have his balance but Periera chased him while his back against the cage. Same Izzy style I think he can win against Pereira, he just has to avoid getting caught by a clean shot because, with just one, he will get more clean shots after it.

I think Adesanya Fans really wanted to see him perform well and surprise the audiences about how he gonna handle this fight. But his problem is Pereira will already know exactly what he gonna do and can predict his movement easily. If Adesanya won't change his fighting style, this upcoming fight will be in favor of Pereira and it might be that the result of this fight is the same as the last one. Pereira can easily dodge and take Adesanya's punches as if it's nothing and that's just how he is always caught by surprise because there wasn't any opponent who can do that against him before. He really needs to win this fight in order to regain back his honor.

It is already a proven fact imho, that a fighter might suck at fighting, but if he managed to stimulate ticker or PPV sales, he will be kept in promotion. UFC is not pure sport, it is entertaining + sport. There are a lot of examples in UFC, when fighters with 3-5 looses in a row are kept in roster, and there are fighters that are released after just one lost, when they got serious of wins. Nobody wants to watch silent Ivan Drago fight. People want big mouths like Clubber Lang


I remember how people talked about how huge Pereira was in their fight. Ability to do extreme weight cuts gonna help him to win again. I feel like Pereira is preparing some kind of a bomb for us. While Adesanya is on public, selling their fight, Pereira is at him gym, mastering his skills. Never seen before how Pereira was even dazed. It will be super hard for Adesanya to knock out this guy. But if the fight goes to judges, they gonna be in favour of a champ, if he did not finish Adesanya before.

P.S. Look how bad people are Adesanya did just one mistake, just one loss, and people already see and predict 1001 way how Pereira gonna finish him

That is not important at all, Mike Tyson was not a likeable character, he didn't smile much and he dominated boxing for years.
My prediction is that Pereira probably winning on points, unless Adesanya make huge surprise with his fighting style and dominates more with wrestling.
I think both of them are good in stand up, Adesanya is faster, Pereira is stronger, but all other skills outside kickboxing is advantage for Adesanya.

I don't think it affects UFC at all, but they can't control money and take most of the earnings like they are doing in their competition.
Let me predict that is McGregor makes another boxing fight UFC will allow him to do it, but other fighters wont be allowed to do that.

There are actually positives and negatives for both sides. A fighter can jump around and act like he's the best in the world in any circumstance and bring in better revenue for the fighting organization or company and at the same time bring better money for himself as well.

But that also comes with consequences. Remember in the past when Muhammad Ali did things like these and got millions of death threats?

It's not like he was not loved by the people. But there were a lot of people, even the mafia, trying to kill him. But at the same time keeping quiet and just being the best is probably not going to bring the most amount of money. About it does increase respect.

Oh wow...  That's a huge deal.  That cements the UFC's position as the pinnacle for all promotion of MMA in the world.  And yeah, now with all the revenue coming in the company, they prolly will have some leeway for Ngannou to come back.  Not saying the UFC's offer of 8m USD per fight isn't huge.


Dana White and the UFC went thru the hoops to get and support McGregor in his foray into boxing.  But the thing is if the UFC fighter lost in a boxing match it diminishes the UFC fighter's stock and in a way it also diminishes the UFC as a brand.  So after McGregor vs Mayweather, the UFC isn't having more boxing matches involving fighters from their roster.

Anyway, here's the Multi Master.

UFC 287 - Multi Master Challenge
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sportsbetio-ufc-287-multi-master-challenge-saturday-5447403

I have a complete opposite vision. A fighter would better smile, talk, jump and act like an asshole, then be silent but skilled fighter. And the more bad guy you are, the better it is. UFC does not like fighters who are active online inside octagon. Demetrious Johnson is a great example. The guy is so much positive, that UFC exchanged him for other fighter (Mighty Mouse has 11 title defence, lost to triple C and got exchanged for Ben Askren lol). No wonder why people dont love Dariush, Muhammad or Whittaker. Because they are too good as persons People dont like Pereira, because he dont speak English, shows no emotions, and got title fight after beating 3 average guys (2 of them were not even in top15), while others wait ages for a title fight.

Well, Alex Pereira can not please everyone, and even targeting to please anybody at all, but surely even though he is not smiling more often he doesn't really need it, because this is UFC, what is important here is if you can beat the other guy which Alex Pereira is really capable of knocking the other guy out for sure, well he doesn't need to be likable because people does like him the way he was now, even though I am not a fan of Alex Pereira because I am for Israel Adesanya, Pereira surely got the attribute in being a champion,


I really wish Dana White could be in favor of Francis Ngannou and subdue to what he likes to give him his freedom in what he wants I think that is not hard enough he has given a boxing match to McGregor I think Dana White can make an exception and I think there could be more privilege for being the champion and not just being in the octagon is not that hard in my opinion, if only Francis Ngannou and Dana White could agree to the terms, if the people would want that why not give it,

Even though Dana White said that he would never accept Ngannou back, yesterday news give a tiny chance for Ngannou to return.

UFC is now merged with WWE. Wrestling organization has a lot of money and they really can offer Ngannou as much money as he want. So one day we might have Ngannou having a wrestling match

For those who have missed the news: World Wrestling Entertainment is merging with Endeavor Group, the parent company of competitor UFC, to form a new publicly traded company. So far I dont know what will UFC get from that merge. More tv broadcast time? New fans? Lesnar 2.0 ?

^  Before seeing how easy Jones finished Gane, I was strongly thinking Ngannou could winamd even knock Jones out.  But know, dunno...  It could be a harder match for Ngannou than I thought.  I wish the UFC could offer Ngannou 10m USD per match for three matches to tempt him back.  I think that's more than most fighters got offered in MMA.

Anyway here are vids to watch before the event this weekend. 

UFC 287:  Countdown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0t7p9l3ACk

UFC Free Fight:  Pereira vs Adesanya
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN8w32EfDss

UFC Free Fight:  Burns vs Magny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rJNbxFD2rY

UFC Free Fight:  Masvidal vs Diaz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i26IBxyGTBI

Enjoy...

In 2022 UFC had 3 kings, 3 African champions. Now everyone of them has lost their belts. Two out of three lost by KOes. Anyone think that Jon Jones could submit Ngannou if they would have fought? (doubt that he could KO Ngannou). What I mean that those champs have lost their belt not by decision. 

Btw, in 2022 only bantamweight and featheweight fighters managed to defend their belts. Figuieiredo, Oliveira, Usman, Adesanya, Prochazka (Texeira), Ngannou have lost their titles.

Pereira is not a very likable character since he doesn't smile a lot but I can say he put all his strength to be great in this sport. He is from a very poor beginning though, same as those who started from scratch. I would be happy for him to become successful too.

This year is a year where we see champions meet thier boggerbear after reigning for years like Usman and Adesanya. Usman losing in 2 fights against someone expected is just a headshaking moment. I might not make the same mistake now in 287.

Nobody chooses or plans to get his back near the cage, but Pereira pushed him real hard and he knows all his weaknesses very well.
I am sure Adesanya will try to change his tactics this time and make some corrections, but I don't know if that will be enough to win.
He has one more week to prepare mentally and physically, but this is most important fight in his life.
Win and he is back on top as champion, lose and he is not getting more title shots for some time.

Actually, this is just what I think when Israel Adesanya backed away, Alex Pereira will always move forward always clearing the distance, and Adesanya doesn't want to move from side to side because he doesn't want to make mistakes because Alex Pereira tends to punch from side to side so Izzy is pretty much aware of that, and the only defense that Israel Adesanya has was the clinched but yeah in backing in that fence he has allowed Pereira, and Alex Pereira didn't notice this on the start of the match, he just realized this on the 5th round, when Adesanya would clinch to him Adesanya's center defense was open that surely have given the opportunity for Pereira, so for me, It could be the movement of Pereira that cause Israel Adesanya to back further away to the fence and this is the 1st time Adesanaya is fighting a guys taller than him or had the same height, not the same guys like Robert Whittaker, Marvin Vettori, and Jared Cannonier then don't have the same height as Pereira,

^  And another thing..  Why was Adesanya always backing up and getting his back near the cage?  It could he a mistake because he'd be having not much space to pull away once Pereira starts moving forward.  It was like he was trapping himself.

Anyway, I'll start looking through the rest of the roster and try to actually find value in these match ups again.  The greasy parlays, while fun, aren't really working out for me.  I'm just wasting my BTC.  Lol.