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Quote from: TopTort777 on February 01, 2023, 07:15:37 AM

Conor McGregor is going to be one of coaches of next TUF (The Ultimate Fighter tv series). Second coach position is still available. There is a probability, that second coach can be Conors next opponent. That will be a nice comeback story for Conor, and Conor would shake TUF ratings, as series ratings on TV dropped down. Also there are rumours, that Tony Fergusson is going to be that second coach. Conor vs Tonny, that would be something I gladly watch Cheesy

It is going to be very interesting to see Conor McGregor and Tony Ferguson. I do think that Conor McGregor is well past his prime. But I still think he has the capability of making people interested in UFC. After all, he has most of the highest selling pay per view of all time in the UFC. So, his being involved is going to be very good for the UFC. And he's also going to be doing that with Tony Ferguson. You know, how crazy both of them can be.

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Quote from: notblox1 on February 01, 2023, 05:16:41 PM

I don't understand why Lewis is so big underdog in this fight, but it could be related with his weight cut and the fact that he lost last few fights.
There is value betting on Lewis but I am not sure we are going to see his old power for KO he needs to win fights.
Spivac is not my favorite fighter but I see this event more as 50-50 than current odds bookmakers set, and I think this fight won't go to distance.

It's absolutely because Lewis has lost his last few fights, and some of them were pretty convincingly. Tai knocking him out via an elbow, that I think pretty much no one expected. I like Tai, and I wasn't expecting him to be able to do that. I'm the type of better that likes to bet on heavyweights going the distance, because usually the odds are quite nice. Sometimes, you get something silly like 5.00 for the favourite winning a decision, and that's only for a three round fight. Having said that, I stay away from decision wins on five round fights usually, at least with heavyweights. Although, Gane, and Jones are in pretty damn good shape for the division, and usually don't look all that gassed. Except, maybe Gane against Ngannou, but most other heavyweights start to flag towards the end. I know Lewis has struggled with it in the past, and it's not like he's a volume puncher.

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Quote from: Welsh on February 01, 2023, 07:38:31 AM

I'm probably not going to bet this weekend, but I'll get my predictions out soon. As I said earlier, I believe Lewis will get the knockout after all. I've never been a massive fan of Spivak, and feel he's over rated to be honest.

I don't understand why Lewis is so big underdog in this fight, but it could be related with his weight cut and the fact that he lost last few fights.
There is value betting on Lewis but I am not sure we are going to see his old power for KO he needs to win fights.
Spivac is not my favorite fighter but I see this event more as 50-50 than current odds bookmakers set, and I think this fight won't go to distance.

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Quote from: AverageGlabella on February 01, 2023, 12:16:59 PM

I have placed bets on Makhachev submission vs Volkanovski and a TKO victory for Jon Jones against Cyril Gane. What do you guys think about these bets? I nearly had the decision win for Jones but the odds were better for a tko which I think he could get because he can wrestle better and win by gnp. I have not put much on this and I am only worried about Jon Jones winning by decision. I think the makhachev bet is going to win but I am worried that Cyril Gane could play safe by moving around a lot.

Yup those would be the most likely outcomes. But I also wouldn't be surprised if we also see Jones subs Gane. Just wondering at what odds did you get in them for and what sports betting site are you using? Books usually don't have props this early even the fiat ones...

Quote from: Welsh on January 31, 2023, 10:25:50 AM

I want to see Bobby up against Alex if possible though. Although, again I'd probably want Bobby to win I don't think he would, but since Izzy seems to have his number it'd be nice to see him going for champion status without going against Izzy.

That's gonna be like watching Whittaker going against a brick wall that hits back. Cheesy

I'd take my chances and bet Whittaker via decision if that match up ever happens. I think he won't choke at the last moments of the match like Adesanya did if ever. Whittaker has no history with Pereira whatsoever, while Adesanya will always have those losses against Pereira in the back of his mind.

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I have placed bets on Makhachev submission vs Volkanovski and a TKO victory for Jon Jones against Cyril Gane. What do you guys think about these bets? I nearly had the decision win for Jones but the odds were better for a tko which I think he could get because he can wrestle better and win by gnp. I have not put much on this and I am only worried about Jon Jones winning by decision. I think the makhachev bet is going to win but I am worried that Cyril Gane could play safe by moving around a lot.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on February 01, 2023, 01:36:28 AM

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He did already the 260 lbs, it's not working for him. Maybe he needs to be lighter. Derrick just needs one good shot to KO a technical fighter but he needs to be quicker.
Pimblett has a lot to prove after his last fight that isn't as imposing as he thought. But then Dana matching these two is quite funny. He must be looking for someone worse than Pimblett to present to the public.

That is why he's going to be pulverized in the Light Heavyweight Derrick Lewis is not a technical fighter, he is a brawler, and if he doesn't change that style of fighting let's say become a technical Brawler he might have a chance against the many fighters in the Light Heavyweight because most of them are very technical, this is just what I think about Lewis, he is not winning anymore and his style is not really becoming in handy anymore Tai Tuivasa even though he is a 1 knock out-artist he is a slight technical fighter with a chin, that is why Ciryl Gane has a hard time beating him,

We all know that the more the weight class becomes, the less skill is needed. So if he does decide to cut weight and move to a lower weight class, he is going to face a lot more competition. And I am not saying that he cannot improve his technique if he cuts weight. But it just seems highly unlikely to me. If he wants to do better in the lower-weight division, he has to improve his technique. Otherwise, he is already not performing well in a higher-weight class. It will be much harder for him to perform at a lower weight class.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on February 01, 2023, 01:36:28 AM

I haven't watched the video, but I've seen a picture with Logan Paul having his thumbs up just in front of Dana White. It's probably a deal with Prime, which is a drink that Logan Paul, and KSI is partnered in I believe. So, that could potentially be a sponsorship deal. You know, how Monster the energy drink is currently the sponsor, and is held every time they read out the results of the fight. This will probably be the extent of it. Like I said, I can't imagine any commission sanctioning Logan Paul to fight in the UFC.

Lets see how Dana White reacts in future after such sponsorship. They are friends with Logan, but he hates Jake Paul, because he criticizes and talks crap him (actually they both throw poop in each other). It will hard to maneuver between business and replaying to Jake Cheesy

I bet Jake can now poke Dana through his brother easily Cheesy

Now to Prime - they have already updated their page (https://drinkprime.com/) with UFC official sponsor Cool

. Anyone tasted it? Funny that everything is sold out. Is it that good or due to promotion? We dont have it at my place, so I've checked walmart prices, and it turns that it cost more than Monster Energy and Red Bull.

Well, everyone that has gone to the Logan Paul podcast has said that prime tastes very good. But everyone was supposed to do that. Because of course, everyone is going to support Logan as they are on Logan's platform. Dana White is not going to let go of a chance like this because UFC needs to increase popularity right now. And I think Logan Paul is someone who can do that. I personally do not like Logan Paul, but this is the right thing being done by the UFC. Logan Paul is going to become a multi-millionaire because of prime.

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Look forward to seeing Prime replace Monster Energy for being held up at the decisions...Anyway, let's get some predictions out within the next few days. Missing one weekend of UFC has made us all stir crazy, and we're more interested talking about a sponsorship than the actual bets you guys are putting on.

I'm probably not going to bet this weekend, but I'll get my predictions out soon. As I said earlier, I believe Lewis will get the knockout after all. I've never been a massive fan of Spivak, and feel he's over rated to be honest.

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Now to Prime - they have already updated their page (https://drinkprime.com/) with UFC official sponsor Cool

. Anyone tasted it? Funny that everything is sold out. Is it that good or due to promotion? We dont have it at my place, so I've checked walmart prices, and it turns that it cost more than Monster Energy and Red Bull.

Nah, not interested in it. However, I know it's extremely popular with the kids these days, and it's extremely expensive. It's just because of the association with Logan Paul, and KSI. There's nothing special about the drink. I believe it's just a normal electrolyte drink, so not necessarily a energy drink like Red Bull, and Monster Energy.

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Conor McGregor is going to be one of coaches of next TUF (The Ultimate Fighter tv series). Second coach position is still available. There is a probability, that second coach can be Conors next opponent. That will be a nice comeback story for Conor, and Conor would shake TUF ratings, as series ratings on TV dropped down. Also there are rumours, that Tony Fergusson is going to be that second coach. Conor vs Tonny, that would be something I gladly watch Cheesy

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on February 01, 2023, 01:36:28 AM

Quote from: Welsh on January 31, 2023, 02:22:08 PM

I haven't watched the video, but I've seen a picture with Logan Paul having his thumbs up just in front of Dana White. It's probably a deal with Prime, which is a drink that Logan Paul, and KSI is partnered in I believe. So, that could potentially be a sponsorship deal. You know, how Monster the energy drink is currently the sponsor, and is held every time they read out the results of the fight. This will probably be the extent of it. Like I said, I can't imagine any commission sanctioning Logan Paul to fight in the UFC.

I am really doubting the legality of it, but seeing that Logan Paul and Dana White together in that video and together with Logan Paul Podcast "IMPAULSIVE" I surely need to not doubt the legality of that, but yeah Prime is their sponsor actually and I thought that Dana White was mad about the Paul Brother but here he is talking and laughing alongside with Logan Paul, and right now I really believe you with this man, and yeah Welcome Logan Paul to the UFC, I just wish that UFC will not be biased about him getting a title fight that fasts, and yeah they can surely pit him to Paddy Pimblett, that is not ranked I am now OK with it,

I really do not know if I should be backing up anyone in this situation. I believe that there is truly something going on between Dana White and Logan Paul. We have seen a lot of disagreement between Dana White and Logan Paul before. But that was because Logan Paul or even his brother Jake Paul was just shit-talking about Dana White and UFC.

But this time Logan Paul has actually a deep approach. Dana White with a good intention of doing business. That's why they are going along with it.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on February 01, 2023, 01:36:28 AM

I haven't watched the video, but I've seen a picture with Logan Paul having his thumbs up just in front of Dana White. It's probably a deal with Prime, which is a drink that Logan Paul, and KSI is partnered in I believe. So, that could potentially be a sponsorship deal. You know, how Monster the energy drink is currently the sponsor, and is held every time they read out the results of the fight. This will probably be the extent of it. Like I said, I can't imagine any commission sanctioning Logan Paul to fight in the UFC.

Lets see how Dana White reacts in future after such sponsorship. They are friends with Logan, but he hates Jake Paul, because he criticizes and talks crap him (actually they both throw poop in each other). It will hard to maneuver between business and replaying to Jake Cheesy

I bet Jake can now poke Dana through his brother easily Cheesy

Now to Prime - they have already updated their page (https://drinkprime.com/) with UFC official sponsor Cool

. Anyone tasted it? Funny that everything is sold out. Is it that good or due to promotion? We dont have it at my place, so I've checked walmart prices, and it turns that it cost more than Monster Energy and Red Bull.

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Quote from: Welsh on January 31, 2023, 02:22:08 PM

I haven't watched the video, but I've seen a picture with Logan Paul having his thumbs up just in front of Dana White. It's probably a deal with Prime, which is a drink that Logan Paul, and KSI is partnered in I believe. So, that could potentially be a sponsorship deal. You know, how Monster the energy drink is currently the sponsor, and is held every time they read out the results of the fight. This will probably be the extent of it. Like I said, I can't imagine any commission sanctioning Logan Paul to fight in the UFC.

I am really doubting the legality of it, but seeing that Logan Paul and Dana White together in that video and together with Logan Paul Podcast "IMPAULSIVE" I surely need to not doubt the legality of that, but yeah Prime is their sponsor actually and I thought that Dana White was mad about the Paul Brother but here he is talking and laughing alongside with Logan Paul, and right now I really believe you with this man, and yeah Welcome Logan Paul to the UFC, I just wish that UFC will not be biased about him getting a title fight that fasts, and yeah they can surely pit him to Paddy Pimblett, that is not ranked I am now OK with it,

Quote from: cabron on January 31, 2023, 02:52:45 PM

He did already the 260 lbs, it's not working for him. Maybe he needs to be lighter. Derrick just needs one good shot to KO a technical fighter but he needs to be quicker.

Pimblett has a lot to prove after his last fight that isn't as imposing as he thought. But then Dana matching these two is quite funny. He must be looking for someone worse than Pimblett to present to the public.

That is why he's going to be pulverized in the Light Heavyweight Derrick Lewis is not a technical fighter, he is a brawler, and if he doesn't change that style of fighting let's say become a technical Brawler he might have a chance against the many fighters in the Light Heavyweight because most of them are very technical, this is just what I think about Lewis, he is not winning anymore and his style is not really becoming in handy anymore Tai Tuivasa even though he is a 1 knock out-artist he is a slight technical fighter with a chin, that is why Ciryl Gane has a hard time beating him,

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Quote from: Welsh on January 31, 2023, 02:22:08 PM

I haven't watched the video, but I've seen a picture with Logan Paul having his thumbs up just in front of Dana White.

I saw that picture myself but I was not sure if this is some photoshop mockup of this two guys or real deal.
After this sponsorship deal with Prime that is owned by Logan Paul, maybe we are going to see cool down in relationship between Dana White and Paul brothers.
This doesn't mean we are going to see this guys fighting in UFC any time soon

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on January 31, 2023, 01:50:37 PM

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Getting Derrick Lewis to drop his weight on lower division for me is not really a great idea for me it is because of Lewis's style of fighting if it's Ciryl Gane then that will surely put him at an advantage with the speed and the technicality of his style surely Ciryl Gane will dominate the Light Heavyweight, and as I have said, Derrick Lewis is not a fast and technical person if he would not change his game plan in approaching his opponent then they will just move fast and counter Lewis, most of the Light Heavyweight is a technical fighter, it will look like the same for some so this is just what I think about Lewis,

He did already the 260 lbs, it's not working for him. Maybe he needs to be lighter. Derrick just needs one good shot to KO a technical fighter but he needs to be quicker.

Pimblett has a lot to prove after his last fight that isn't as imposing as he thought. But then Dana matching these two is quite funny. He must be looking for someone worse than Pimblett to present to the public.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on January 31, 2023, 01:50:37 PM

Well, that is Dana White saying yes, maybe this is real but there are no further announcements, and if there is no post on the real thing I am keeping on doubting it, and if he wants Paddy Pimblett I think he needs to drop his weight 1st because Logan Paul is 205 lb if I am not mistaken, so Logan Paul is a Light Heavyweight while Paddy Pimblett is Lightweight 155 lb Logan Paul is enormous and needs to lose weight 1st before challenging Pimblett, I think Logan Paul should start with some test run 1st,

I haven't watched the video, but I've seen a picture with Logan Paul having his thumbs up just in front of Dana White. It's probably a deal with Prime, which is a drink that Logan Paul, and KSI is partnered in I believe. So, that could potentially be a sponsorship deal. You know, how Monster the energy drink is currently the sponsor, and is held every time they read out the results of the fight. This will probably be the extent of it. Like I said, I can't imagine any commission sanctioning Logan Paul to fight in the UFC.

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Quote from: OgNasty on January 30, 2023, 12:47:00 PM

Logan Paul just dropped a video on his Twitter account hinting that he’s going to be making a big announcement tomorrow involving Dana White and the UFC. Possibly even the announcement of a fight against Paddy Pimblett… Not sure how true that could be, but the video did enough to make me believe that Logan is going to commit to an MMA fight. Tomorrow we’ll find out for sure.

Well, that is Dana White saying yes, maybe this is real but there are no further announcements, and if there is no post on the real thing I am keeping on doubting it, and if he wants Paddy Pimblett I think he needs to drop his weight 1st because Logan Paul is 205 lb if I am not mistaken, so Logan Paul is a Light Heavyweight while Paddy Pimblett is Lightweight 155 lb Logan Paul is enormous and needs to lose weight 1st before challenging Pimblett, I think Logan Paul should start with some test run 1st,

Quote from: cabron on January 30, 2023, 12:55:30 PM

Lewis lowering his weight might just give him the edge this time. He must have been instructed to drop lbs to be able to make a win again but this is the same situation last year which is also the cause of why their fight was canceled. Curious as it is pursued this time. Even so, it's the only match that is interesting enough.

Anyway, Connor having bodyguards really? He must have lots of death threats.
It must be hard to qualify as a guard, a sparring against him is required probably.

Getting Derrick Lewis to drop his weight on lower division for me is not really a great idea for me it is because of Lewis's style of fighting if it's Ciryl Gane then that will surely put him at an advantage with the speed and the technicality of his style surely Ciryl Gane will dominate the Light Heavyweight, and as I have said, Derrick Lewis is not a fast and technical person if he would not change his game plan in approaching his opponent then they will just move fast and counter Lewis, most of the Light Heavyweight is a technical fighter, it will look like the same for some so this is just what I think about Lewis,

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It's no secret that I'm a Izzy fan so I'll definitely be routing for him to win at least the once against Alex. However, I'll give it to Alex he's definitely made his mark, and he's probably got a decent career ahead of him regardless if he remains champion or not. He'll likely challenge for it multiple times if he doesn't retain it, which I don't believe he will. There's too many good wrestlers in this division, and he doesn't seem to have the best of takedown defenses. That's something that Izzy is pretty decent at, and one of the reasons why he retain that belt.

I want to see Bobby up against Alex if possible though. Although, again I'd probably want Bobby to win I don't think he would, but since Izzy seems to have his number it'd be nice to see him going for champion status without going against Izzy.

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Quote from: Welsh on January 30, 2023, 04:56:14 PM

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I know they say that 'size doesn't matter' about many things including a lot of match ups made in MMA, but I guess in this case, it def does matter. Pereira is a natural 205'er competing at 185 and Adesanya on the other hand was just shown that he'll get over powered whatever he does. I mean Adesanya did almost got Pereira out at the end of the first round but other than that Pereira was taking it and biding his time. And when he saw his opportunity, Adesanya couldn't do anything. Ref had to stop it.

And I fancy Pereira fighting at 205 for the belt this year... Going for the ole double champ status.

Yeah, well it does matter to an extent. However, the size difference is mitigated more with better technique in MMA, and that's mostly only true when it comes to wrestling. Not striking, being bigger, and having more power behind your shots is definitely going to help you.

Also, fancy him for the double champion status. He needs to work on his defensive takedowns, he shouldn't have been allowing Izzy to take him down, who basically has no experience in doing so at least in fights in the UFC. The thing about Alex, I don't think anyone's better than him at kickboxing, but Izzy. The thing with Izzy he hasn't got that natural frame like Alex does. If Izzy was a little bigger, then he'd probably have a lot more success on those that are bigger than him. Alex, moving up he could be smaller than some, but he's definitely not the smallest in that division either.

Hah yeah.. If Adesanya was a tad bigger, he would've had a tad more power in his hands and Pereira woundn't have gotten out of the first round. That was Adesanya's only chance to take Pereira out for the whole match. Most times it was Adesenya keeping his distance until he got his back against the cage then had to move left or right until he couldn't.

As for champ champ status, Pereira has to win the rematch first then move up cos if he loses it's gonna be another match up vs Adesanya. So yeah, both scenarios are good for Pereria as he'll still be at the or near the top of the ladder.

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Mike Perry a UFC star is the backup for the Jake Paul vs Tommy Fury fight. Does that mean he is finished in the UFC? I cannot remember him retiring but I might be wrong I do not watch a lot of ufc. I do remember Mike Perry though. I think he beats Jake Paul but I know he is older now.

Why does every UFC fighter go to boxing after they are done with their ufc career?

Yeah Mike Perry was retired from UFC and then he sign a contract in Bare Knuckle Fighting Championship (BKFC), it's much more like a boxing, but without gloves. No he's not really that old, he's currently 31 years old, I think it's a prime age in most of sports.

Well in boxing there's a huge cashflow rather than UFC and other MMA organizations, also you can just have an exhibition fight which will lower your risk, but you can still make money.

That is probably why I am confused because he is still fighting in the bare knuckle boxing. I think Jake Paul is brave and Mike Perry doing bare knuckle boxing means he can take the punches that Jake Paul throws. He might be a better option then Tommy Fury to test Jake Paul. I did not think Mike Perry was as young as 31 I thought he was in his late 30

I do not think it is a exhibition fight.

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Yeah, there's a lot of unknown fighters this weekend, but that's kind of exciting in its own right. Some of these fighters could potentially be the next big thing, and every fighter has to start somewhere. I'll be quite honest, I don't know a lot of them so predictions are hard especially when I'm struggling to find tape on a few of them.

Quote from: OgNasty on January 30, 2023, 12:47:00 PM

Logan Paul just dropped a video on his Twitter account hinting that he’s going to be making a big announcement tomorrow involving Dana White and the UFC. Possibly even the announcement of a fight against Paddy Pimblett… Not sure how true that could be, but the video did enough to make me believe that Logan is going to commit to an MMA fight. Tomorrow we’ll find out for sure.

Not sure a commission would even allow that to happen. Logan Paul, to my knowledge doesn't have any experience whatsoever in MMA, while Paddy Pimblett is a future star, that's if he isn't considered a star right now. I just can't see that happening, not because Logan Paul doesn't want it to happen, but because there's no way that gets signed off.

It'd be interesting if he is allowed to compete at all, since I wouldn't have thought so due to his lack of training in MMA.

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Quote from: OgNasty on January 30, 2023, 12:47:00 PM

Logan Paul just dropped a video on his Twitter account hinting that he’s going to be making a big announcement tomorrow involving Dana White and the UFC. Possibly even the announcement of a fight against Paddy Pimblett… Not sure how true that could be, but the video did enough to make me believe that Logan is going to commit to an MMA fight. Tomorrow we’ll find out for sure.

Logan Paul vs Paddy Pimblett? Not sure how Dana White is going to allow that. He does not allow his fighters, that has an active contract to compete outside UFC. UFC does not make exhibition fights. When Logans brother Jake, said that he wants to "a high ranked fighter, whos name I have forgotten Sad

", Dana told that Jake must first prove that he is on same level with that fighter. Meaning Jake should first climb that ranking ladder.

Paddy is not a newbie or no-name in UFC. If Logan is going to fight Paddy, first he need to pass several opponents. They are in different weight divisions after all. Paddy is a featherweight, Logan a cruiserweight. That is almost 20kg difference.

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