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January 31, 2023, 02:26:40 AM
Mike Perry a UFC star is the backup for the Jake Paul vs Tommy Fury fight. Does that mean he is finished in the UFC? I cannot remember him retiring but I might be wrong I do not watch a lot of ufc. I do remember Mike Perry though. I think he beats Jake Paul but I know he is older now.

Why does every UFC fighter go to boxing after they are done with their ufc career?
Yeah Mike Perry was retired from UFC and then he sign a contract in Bare Knuckle Fighting Championship (BKFC), it's much more like a boxing, but without gloves. No he's not really that old, he's currently 31 years old, I think it's a prime age in most of sports.

Well in boxing there's a huge cashflow rather than UFC and other MMA organizations, also you can just have an exhibition fight which will lower your risk, but you can still make money.
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January 30, 2023, 07:25:57 PM
Mike Perry a UFC star is the backup for the Jake Paul vs Tommy Fury fight. Does that mean he is finished in the UFC? I cannot remember him retiring but I might be wrong I do not watch a lot of ufc. I do remember Mike Perry though. I think he beats Jake Paul but I know he is older now.

Why does every UFC fighter go to boxing after they are done with their ufc career?
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January 30, 2023, 06:08:27 PM
Anyway, what's our early leans for this weekend coming up?
I am not sure what to think about upcoming UFC card.
There are a lot of asian fighters I dont know, but I am excited to watch big guys fighting in main card.
My early bet is going to Serghei Spivac to win but we all know Derrick Lewis can awake Black Beast at any time, and I expect this to be short fight.
Much more interesting for me is Marcin Tybura vs Blagoy Ivanov, we need more heavyweights in combination now after Ngannou left Dana's camp.
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January 30, 2023, 04:56:14 PM
I know they say that 'size doesn't matter' about many things including a lot of match ups made in MMA, but I guess in this case, it def does matter.  Pereira is a natural 205'er competing at 185 and Adesanya on the other hand was just shown that he'll get over powered whatever he does.  I mean Adesanya did almost got Pereira out at the end of the first round but other than that Pereira was taking it and biding his time.  And when he saw his opportunity, Adesanya couldn't do anything.  Ref had to stop it.

And I fancy Pereira fighting at 205 for the belt this year...  Going for the ole double champ status. 
Yeah, well it does matter to an extent. However, the size difference is mitigated more with better technique in MMA, and that's mostly only true when it comes to wrestling. Not striking, being bigger, and having more power behind your shots is definitely going to help you.

Also, fancy him for the double champion status. He needs to work on his defensive takedowns, he shouldn't have been allowing Izzy to take him down, who basically has no experience in doing so at least in fights in the UFC. The thing about Alex, I don't think anyone's better than him at kickboxing, but Izzy. The thing with Izzy he hasn't got that natural frame like Alex does. If Izzy was a little bigger, then he'd probably have a lot more success on those that are bigger than him. Alex, moving up he could be smaller than some, but he's definitely not the smallest in that division either.
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January 30, 2023, 04:46:44 PM
A couple of vids to watch that could help you guys make your picks for the main event tuis weekend...

UFC Free Fight:  Spivac vs Hardy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n16j26HlbLY

UFC Free Fight:  Lewis vs Blaydes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lN9D6z0CKr0

And about Lewis making weight, again I don't think it's gonna be a lot.  So don't expect a big transformation, prolly just 5 lbs and slightly leaner body at fight day.  But what it really shows is he's prolly taking this next match seriously and that he's seriously finding ways to improve.

And if he does end up showing that he lost 20 lbs, damn...  Can't wait to see the match!
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January 30, 2023, 12:55:30 PM
Well, despite it not being the biggest event this weekend, I'm just grateful there is an event on. Honestly, because I've programmed my body to stay up to watch UFC as it's often on late. I now struggle when its not on. I'm going for a Derrick Lewis win though, by TKO/KO. I think he'll surprise us, and actually pull it off. I think the odds are in the favour of Spivak, so might earn a pretty penny on it.

Lewis lowering his weight might just give him the edge this time. He must have been instructed to drop lbs to be able to make a win again but this is the same situation last year which is also the cause of why their fight was canceled. Curious as it is pursued this time. Even so, it's the only match that is interesting enough.

Anyway, Connor having bodyguards really? He must have lots of death threats.
It must be hard to qualify as a guard, a sparring against him is required probably.
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January 30, 2023, 12:47:00 PM
Logan Paul just dropped a video on his Twitter account hinting that he’s going to be making a big announcement tomorrow involving Dana White and the UFC. Possibly even the announcement of a fight against Paddy Pimblett… Not sure how true that could be, but the video did enough to make me believe that Logan is going to commit to an MMA fight. Tomorrow we’ll find out for sure.
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January 30, 2023, 11:35:40 AM
If Francis' boxing career doesn't go to plan, which I believe he's going for the Tyson Fury fight. Then, Bellator would likely be the best option for him, rather than any of the other promotions. Probably, the only one that can compete with the UFC in terms of fame, as well as wage. I believe Bellator get paid more, but obviously at a reduced publicity, which might be important to some fighters. I don't think Ngannou is that type of person though, if his leaked demands are true, then he seemed to care about the state of fighters health, instead of lining his own pockets, which you've got to respect.

Anyway, what's our early leans for this weekend coming up?
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January 30, 2023, 11:13:39 AM
Crazy footage online posted by Conor McGregor showing the aftermath of him being hit by a car while on a bike ride. Pretty scary. He seemed in good spirits and forgiving of the guy who hit him, who then gave him a ride and appeared on camera driving him. Athletes really shouldn’t be training outside on bikes like this because things like this can happen. As sad as it is to say, you can’t trust people to not do stupid things like hit a bicyclist when they aren’t paying attention. Luckily it seems no major harm was done and McGregor kept his cool.
I've seen video of him riding his bike followed by a range rover with security. When he is not at home, he has always guards around him (made that conclusion based on pictures he posts on the Instagram). He had no security with him this time. That always amazes me - rich people, that trashtalk about others a lot, dont have guards when they needed.

Btw, that car driver probably pissed his pants, when he realized who he hit. He and his next several generations would have have to pay insurance regress in case that was a fatal car hit.
Btw, I like how Conor is positive with that situation. Others would be furious on that driver. Knowing how intemperate Conor is (recent Ibiza case), Conor is really doing great.

After everything, I am actually glad that no one got seriously injured in this accident. Of course, if something happened to Conor McGregor, the person that hit him would have to pay a lot of money. But money cannot bring back dead people. And the thing is accidents happen when it is least expected. Just like you said he did not have his security with him. And that's when this accident happened. But anyway it was a bike, not a car. One can argue that his security team could have gone with him in a car behind him. But the happening has already happened.
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January 30, 2023, 08:53:01 AM
Well, despite it not being the biggest event this weekend, I'm just grateful there is an event on. Honestly, because I've programmed my body to stay up to watch UFC as it's often on late. I now struggle when its not on. I'm going for a Derrick Lewis win though, by TKO/KO. I think he'll surprise us, and actually pull it off. I think the odds are in the favour of Spivak, so might earn a pretty penny on it.

I've seen video of him riding his bike followed by a range rover with security. When he is not at home, he has always guards around him (made that conclusion based on pictures he posts on the Instagram). He had no security with him this time. That always amazes me - rich people, that trashtalk about others a lot, dont have guards when they needed.
I've seen quite a lot of celebrities in the UK without bodyguards. I think it's very much an Amercian thing. Obviously, celebrities do have bodyguards to some extent, but only really at events, and the like. I've seen Youtubers have bodyguards, but people like Tyson Fury often run around their local without bodyguards. Unless, they're watching from a distance, but I doubt it. Would probably defeat the purpose of them.
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January 30, 2023, 05:13:54 AM
Crazy footage online posted by Conor McGregor showing the aftermath of him being hit by a car while on a bike ride. Pretty scary. He seemed in good spirits and forgiving of the guy who hit him, who then gave him a ride and appeared on camera driving him. Athletes really shouldn’t be training outside on bikes like this because things like this can happen. As sad as it is to say, you can’t trust people to not do stupid things like hit a bicyclist when they aren’t paying attention. Luckily it seems no major harm was done and McGregor kept his cool.

I've seen video of him riding his bike followed by a range rover with security. When he is not at home, he has always guards around him (made that conclusion based on pictures he posts on the Instagram). He had no security with him this time. That always amazes me - rich people, that trashtalk about others a lot, dont have guards when they needed.

Btw, that car driver probably pissed his pants, when he realized who he hit. He and his next several generations would have have to pay insurance regress in case that was a fatal car hit.

Btw, I like how Conor is positive with that situation. Others would be furious on that driver. Knowing how intemperate Conor is (recent Ibiza case), Conor is really doing great.
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January 29, 2023, 06:18:23 PM

Izzy didn't perform well in adding weight against Jan. He is better in his current division, he caught Periera and was about to drop if it weren't for the bell Pereira would have been knocked out. Sure to expect a trilogy when in the rematch Izzy wins.

It would cost a lot more the bring Ngannou back, it's been reported that he refused the $7M to stay in UFC. Jones vs Ngannou will be one of the fights that will never happen if UFC is not willing to give more than that. Meanwhile, Ngannou seems to be negotiating already in boxing.


He was in a state of bored I think he was interviewed back in 2022 he was really complacent with Jan Blachowicz fight and with the next fight on Marvin Vettori well, I really think he didn't expect the fight with Jan Blachowicz I really think he can beat him but he was just short with realizing what Blachowicz really can do I think because Israel Adesanya is feeling bored he has not taken to consideration about the fight well the fight sometimes was just all in the mind if they can beat their opponent or not,

Francis Ngannou doesn't really need the money if the change he needs is going out of the UFC and being free as a free fighter I really think if the UFC will not comply with what he needs then there will be no negotiation between him and the UFC,


I guess it depends on how his boxing career goes, as I assume that's his next chapter in his career. If he doesn't perform well in boxing, it could be a short lived career, and he could want back into the UFC, which then the UFC have some leverage. They'd probably negotiate a big contract still, but I'm not sure if it'll be to the same degree as the one offered this time, and it probably won't involve medical cover either.

I wish the UFC would do that mind. Adequate medical insurance for all fighters on the roster, they could potentially negotiate smaller wages if they had that back up. Since, it's a risk for a fighter every time they step in there, that they could potentially rack up thousands upon thousands of medical bills. 

For me, If he doesn't do well with boxing then he's going back to MMA but not with the UFC, there are great contracts awaiting him with LFA but I wish Bellator would try to convince him and get him a great contract with Bellator,

Well, regarding medical insurance for the fighter, if the UFC would provide medical coverage for all the fighters I think that will be a big money involved regarding the number of fighters in the UFC, maybe the top 10 fighters have solid funds regarding their Medical bill but what about the lower ranked fighters, and I think there aren't many injuries or fatal incident that has happened to UFC so far so I think it is not a big money for the UFC to covered those fighters that are harmed during the fights,
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January 29, 2023, 04:41:27 PM
^  Jon Jones' wrestling advantage should be enough to take on Gane, grind him against the cage and take him down eventually.  Dunno..  I just can't imagine a scenario that gives Gane the advantage.  And who knows, Jones could end up making it look easy.

As for Adesanya vs Pereira, yeah, I think Pereira gets the W again.  He's just way bigger and stronger than Adesanya.  And now knowing that he could stay in there and take Adesanya out when he tries to throw more volume makes me think that he's gonna try to throw more volume right off the bat and could give Adesanya more trouble.  



Yeah, I think Pereira does. Whether it's just his kryptonite, Izzy just can't seem to do it. He dominated that fight right up until the end. So, I know Izzy is more than capable, and in fact at the end of the first or second round he actually rocked Alex pretty bad. If it wasn't the end of the round that could've been the end right there for Alex. Since, both of these fighters when in trouble stay standing, and don't actually dive for the legs. So, usually when they get rocked that's the end.

I know they say that 'size doesn't matter' about many things including a lot of match ups made in MMA, but I guess in this case, it def does matter.  Pereira is a natural 205'er competing at 185 and Adesanya on the other hand was just shown that he'll get over powered whatever he does.  I mean Adesanya did almost got Pereira out at the end of the first round but other than that Pereira was taking it and biding his time.  And when he saw his opportunity, Adesanya couldn't do anything.  Ref had to stop it.

And I fancy Pereira fighting at 205 for the belt this year...  Going for the ole double champ status. 
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January 29, 2023, 12:36:51 PM
It would cost a lot more the bring Ngannou back, it's been reported that he refused the $7M to stay in UFC. Jones vs Ngannou will be one of the fights that will never happen if UFC is not willing to give more than that. Meanwhile, Ngannou seems to be negotiating already in boxing.
I guess it depends on how his boxing career goes, as I assume that's his next chapter in his career. If he doesn't perform well in boxing, it could be a short lived career, and he could want back into the UFC, which then the UFC have some leverage. They'd probably negotiate a big contract still, but I'm not sure if it'll be to the same degree as the one offered this time, and it probably won't involve medical cover either.

I wish the UFC would do that mind. Adequate medical insurance for all fighters on the roster, they could potentially negotiate smaller wages if they had that back up. Since, it's a risk for a fighter every time they step in there, that they could potentially rack up thousands upon thousands of medical bills. 
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January 29, 2023, 10:45:30 AM
We all know Ngannou would beat both of them now in heavyweight category, so winner of this fight will have to face him sooner or later.
If Gane wins then we know who is better, but I really want to see Jones getting beaten by Ngannou in some super fight.
Not fighting for more than three years in octagon is serious setback for anyone including Jones.
I don't know if I know that, since Jones is one of the greatest to have entered the cage. However, I would be supporting Ngannou if that fight ever did happen. I think that ship has sailed now though, don't think we'll see Francis again in the UFC, which is an absolute shame. Seemed like a great guy, delivered entering fights, and the super star fight that him vs Jones would've been. Dana would've been happy too since he would've profited insanely off of that fight. Assuming, Jones does well against Gane of course.

The most interesting part of it is that Jones is making his comeback in a weight class up, now even fighters that move up in full swing of their career have struggled with that. Izzy being the latest one, alright he was significantly underweight against Jan, but it still goes. Jones, might not be the same fighter. However, due to his wrestling focused approach, I think he'll transition a lot better than Izzy did who really struggled with that threat of a takedown, and not having much of a ground game.

Izzy didn't perform well in adding weight against Jan. He is better in his current division, he caught Periera and was about to drop if it weren't for the bell Pereira would have been knocked out. Sure to expect a trilogy when in the rematch Izzy wins.

It would cost a lot more the bring Ngannou back, it's been reported that he refused the $7M to stay in UFC. Jones vs Ngannou will be one of the fights that will never happen if UFC is not willing to give more than that. Meanwhile, Ngannou seems to be negotiating already in boxing.
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January 28, 2023, 09:50:22 PM

Whenever we see a bike accident, we are generally very scared because bike accidents are not very good for any biker. Because compared to a car, a bike does not have too much safety. And that can often cause any bike rider to have a serious injury. It's actually very good that nothing like that happened. And it does not seem like he had any serious injuries. And he should be all right in a maximum of a week or two.

Bike Accidents really are not a good thing to see when a rider would end up losing his life as a result of it, it was never been really good to see such things and I think that Conor McGregor is really thankful for still being alive today despite on what happen he surely still wants to return to the UFC, the potential for survival on most vehicular accidents that are in a motorbike is very slim so Conor McGregor should be thankful that he is still breathing

It looks like it's official folks...  It's gonna be a rematch between Israel Adesanya and Alex Pereira for UFC 287.  Kinda disappointed as I thought Adesanya was gonna take the back seat a bit and rest.  I was expecting Robert Whittaker to get his shot against Pereira.  That would've been a more intruiging match up imho.  It was also announced that the co main event will be Gilbert Burns vs Jorge Masvidal.  Been a while since we saw Masvidal in there.  I think he gets starched by Burns.  Lol.

UFC 287 Announcement
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkDjcqO5O2o

Here's a fight vid.  Enjoy.

UFC Free Fight:  Josh Emmet vs Calvin Kattar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKH2a0KVhiI

I have seen the announcement and surely it felt premature or it was just an early announcement but this is just what I felt the fight will be on April 8, this year, and I think Israel Adesanya is really ready for this Adesanya just like their match with Kickboxing was winning in the 1st few rounds but suddenly it was all taken away in the last round, while Jorge Masvidal is returning versus Gilbert Burns and the young Raul Rosas Jr. is taking on Christian Rodriguez but I think the 18 years old may prevail this in my opinion,

And so the game isn't really over and Alex Pereira's weakness was all seen in their fight, I really don't know if Pereira will now be stepping up and do some wrestling aswell but I think Israel Adesanya would have to be like Khamzat Chimaev taken down Pereira on the 1st round, that will be a game changer plan for him,
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January 28, 2023, 08:06:21 PM
We all know Ngannou would beat both of them now in heavyweight category, so winner of this fight will have to face him sooner or later.
If Gane wins then we know who is better, but I really want to see Jones getting beaten by Ngannou in some super fight.
Not fighting for more than three years in octagon is serious setback for anyone including Jones.
I don't know if I know that, since Jones is one of the greatest to have entered the cage. However, I would be supporting Ngannou if that fight ever did happen. I think that ship has sailed now though, don't think we'll see Francis again in the UFC, which is an absolute shame. Seemed like a great guy, delivered entering fights, and the super star fight that him vs Jones would've been. Dana would've been happy too since he would've profited insanely off of that fight. Assuming, Jones does well against Gane of course.

The most interesting part of it is that Jones is making his comeback in a weight class up, now even fighters that move up in full swing of their career have struggled with that. Izzy being the latest one, alright he was significantly underweight against Jan, but it still goes. Jones, might not be the same fighter. However, due to his wrestling focused approach, I think he'll transition a lot better than Izzy did who really struggled with that threat of a takedown, and not having much of a ground game.
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January 28, 2023, 06:41:12 PM
It looks like it's official folks...  It's gonna be a rematch between Israel Adesanya and Alex Pereira for UFC 287.  Kinda disappointed as I thought Adesanya was gonna take the back seat a bit and rest. 
Adesanya doesn't like to make big breaks between fighting and I am really interested if he can beat Pereira in second fight.
Losing again from him would be a serious set back but I think he can win with good strategy and mindset, if both of them are healthy and ready in April.

We've got some big fights ahead of us lads. Can't wait for Jon Jones' return personally. See, what level he's at. He'll either be very rusty, and then that eight fight contract looks a little silly or he'll dominate the division for the entirety of those eight fights.
We all know Ngannou would beat both of them now in heavyweight category, so winner of this fight will have to face him sooner or later.
If Gane wins then we know who is better, but I really want to see Jones getting beaten by Ngannou in some super fight.
Not fighting for more than three years in octagon is serious setback for anyone including Jones.
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That's my thoughts, depends on his fitness coming into it, but I imagine he'll be in top shape. Bit of cage rustiness, but I feel like wrestlers don't really suffer from that as much as predominately strikers would. I haven't actually watched much of Jon Jones live, his time was before I was really into MMA, so I've only caught highlights so I'm particularly excited about watching him live. Alright, I don't agree or condone what he has done outside the cage, but inside the cage he's truly brilliant.
Jon Jones is returning because he is fully prepared to make his come back physically and mentally to be in the Heavy Weight division and there is no doubt he will be dominating the division and the most interesting aspect is one punch can change the fight with heavier guys and how Jones will be able to counter that and i believe he will be focusing more on his wrestling as he is training with Henry Cejudo and that is how he might be countering the heavy punches  Cheesy.
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January 28, 2023, 02:02:02 PM
^  Jon Jones' wrestling advantage should be enough to take on Gane, grind him against the cage and take him down eventually.  Dunno..  I just can't imagine a scenario that gives Gane the advantage.  And who knows, Jones could end up making it look easy.
As for Adesanya vs Pereira, yeah, I think Pereira gets the W again.  He's just way bigger and stronger than Adesanya.  And now knowing that he could stay in there and take Adesanya out when he tries to throw more volume makes me think that he's gonna try to throw more volume right off the bat and could give Adesanya more trouble. 
That's my thoughts, depends on his fitness coming into it, but I imagine he'll be in top shape. Bit of cage rustiness, but I feel like wrestlers don't really suffer from that as much as predominately strikers would. I haven't actually watched much of Jon Jones live, his time was before I was really into MMA, so I've only caught highlights so I'm particularly excited about watching him live. Alright, I don't agree or condone what he has done outside the cage, but inside the cage he's truly brilliant.
Yeah, I think Pereira does. Whether it's just his kryptonite, Izzy just can't seem to do it. He dominated that fight right up until the end. So, I know Izzy is more than capable, and in fact at the end of the first or second round he actually rocked Alex pretty bad. If it wasn't the end of the round that could've been the end right there for Alex. Since, both of these fighters when in trouble stay standing, and don't actually dive for the legs. So, usually when they get rocked that's the end.

I have to say one thing. When a fighter stays away from fighting for quite a long time and returns into fighting, the punches that he eats does hurt a little more. So, I do not know how he is going to perform after his return. But I also think that he is not going to suffer a lot because he is not a striker as much as he is a wrestler. And honestly, I have seen Jon Jones live, is actually as good as they say that he is.

Adesanya feels like he is not as good as he was before. Or maybe it's just me, I feel like he was more stylish and dominant before. But I also want to say that I don't think he has become a bad fighter just because he does not show any style as he did before. It's like we have been saying him doing crazy things and we expect craziness from him, not come and collectiveness.
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