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legendary
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December 15, 2022, 12:46:19 PM
Indeed main event is interesting to watch. I dont even know who is better Strickland or Cannonier. According to bookies, both have close chances to win. I would say that Cannonier looks better on the paper, he had stronger opponents, the fights he had lost against top opponents were by decision mostly. I think he will take a win this time.
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December 15, 2022, 11:41:29 AM
I really think we got a great event coming this weekend, and that is UFC Fight Night: Cannonier vs. Strickland for both these fighters here are their preview fights so we can have a comparison of what both these fighters can do,

Jared Cannonier - Click the name to watch the fight

Against - Kelvin Gastelum

Against - Derek Brunson

Sean Strickland   - Click the name to watch the fight

Against - Uriah Hall

Against - Jack Harmansson



Other than the main event I think that the Arman Tsarukyan VS Damir Ismagulov will be a thrilling fight to watch aswell, Said Nurmagomedov VS Saidyokub Kakhramonov is another fight that I am looking forward to seeing, and surely the fighting kittens the only woman fight in this event for this two beautiful ladies Cheyanne Vlismas VS Cory McKenna is what I am looking forward to really see, and will surely post my picks on this fights before the match start,


legendary
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December 15, 2022, 10:33:01 AM
Cant believe finally it happened Cheesy He has been in UFC ranking for ages, while being practically inactive. After a loss to Khabib, he had only 3 fights (win against old Cerrone and two losses to Poirier). That is ridiculous. I know that he is a money cow for UFC, but he should not be in rating with such poor and bad activity. Also I would have removed Ferguson. After a win over Cerrone (again him Cheesy), he has 5 straight losses. Such fighter simply can not be top15.
One of the reasons for the inactivity is that nasty leg snap though. Although, obviously he probably shouldn't be in the rankings, we all know that he's good enough. You put him against most of the fighters outside the top five, and he probably wins, and I'm hoping that's what Dana decides to do. Since, putting him against the top fighters is just going to tarnish his reputation further.

It's quite possible with some favourable matchmaking he'll start putting some wins together, and reach some of the heights he was at before.


Are you saying that current Conor McGregor would beat anyone aside top5 of lightweight division or prime McGregor? Currently, any top10 will beat him imho. And the only reason why he was in top15 list, to have an excuse why he is fighting this or that guy, when he picks his opponent, but not UFC gives him a bunch of opponents to fight against. He was in top15 because fans would not understand why unranked fighters is having a title shot so early or fights someone that is about to have a title shot.

P.S. I've heard rumours that he will fight Chandler and if he wins, he will get a title fight Cheesy
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December 15, 2022, 10:15:26 AM
Cant believe finally it happened Cheesy He has been in UFC ranking for ages, while being practically inactive. After a loss to Khabib, he had only 3 fights (win against old Cerrone and two losses to Poirier). That is ridiculous. I know that he is a money cow for UFC, but he should not be in rating with such poor and bad activity. Also I would have removed Ferguson. After a win over Cerrone (again him Cheesy), he has 5 straight losses. Such fighter simply can not be top15.
One of the reasons for the inactivity is that nasty leg snap though. Although, obviously he probably shouldn't be in the rankings, we all know that he's good enough. You put him against most of the fighters outside the top five, and he probably wins, and I'm hoping that's what Dana decides to do. Since, putting him against the top fighters is just going to tarnish his reputation further.

It's quite possible with some favourable matchmaking he'll start putting some wins together, and reach some of the heights he was at before.
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December 15, 2022, 09:02:10 AM



For this weekend we have last UFC event in this year and Jared Cannonier vs Sean Strickland should be interesting main event to watch.
It's hard to predict a winner here but I would give slight advantage to Cannonier, but there are no real favorite in this fight.
My main bet for this event is on Khabib's cousin Said Nurmagomedov to win against Saidyokub Kakhramonov, and odds are very good.


I think there's a chance that Cannonier KO's Strickland this weekend.  I watched Cannonier's media day interview and he said that Strickland said he wants to 'duke it out' in the middle of the cage.  That's def a bad idea as Strickland was just KO'd by Pereira a tad over a couple of months ago.

You guys can watch the interview here.

UFC Vegas 66:  Cannonier Media Day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqMONWn_DbA

As I got lucky at the last event, I'm gonna try to get lucky again with another lottery ticket.  Cheesy

Kape - Matthews:  1.88
Add:  Albazi - Morozov - Marquez:  4.79
Add:  Erosa - Vlismas - Battle:  24.98
Add:  Nurmagomedov - Tsakuryan - Dober:  113.61
Add:  Cannonier - Brundage - Garcia:  1182.50

Good luck to all your bets.
legendary
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December 15, 2022, 05:21:59 AM
From all MMA news I saw that Conor McGregor is removed from official UFC rankings, that just shows how relevant he is in MMA at the moment.

Cant believe finally it happened Cheesy He has been in UFC ranking for ages, while being practically inactive. After a loss to Khabib, he had only 3 fights (win against old Cerrone and two losses to Poirier). That is ridiculous. I know that he is a money cow for UFC, but he should not be in rating with such poor and bad activity. Also I would have removed Ferguson. After a win over Cerrone (again him Cheesy), he has 5 straight losses. Such fighter simply can not be top15.
legendary
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December 14, 2022, 05:58:59 PM

Not a bad idea.  At the very least I think that they could probably extend these fights a little more.  Paddy even said that he felt he was the winner of the first two rounds so round 3 he just danced around and tried to maintain his victory.  Make it a 6 round fight and I think the winner would be much more obvious.  Just like the Suga Sean O'Malley fight, Paddy seemingly was nearing the end of what he had in the tank by round 3.  3 more rounds and it would have been very clear for the referees who the winner was.  I'm not sure why Sean and Paddy are getting such short 3 round fights, but I'd like to see them extended so we can actually see a fight...

Many have said that Jared Gordon won the fight, but as Dana White has said maybe protecting a certain judge, he was not seeing any problem with the judge's decision and maybe finish off their opponent quickly with KO/TKO or a submission just like what Leon Edwards did with Kamaru Usman, for me, this is really a poor excuse to say, but on 2nd though he maybe had point, so I have said that maybe it was really good advice to certain fighters but still a bad excuse to saying that his judges really did nothing wrong, and I think extending the fight would surely not the solution but maybe it is a shot, but for me to give punishment to people doing the job poorly,


Bad decision-making is always a pain in the ass ever since they are involved in the fight business. I would like to see 5 judges on different sides of the octagon.

3 rounds are also too short for non-main event fights. The time gap between non-main events and main events is 10 minutes. So it's like becoming a champion is a whole different level because they are fighting for 25 minutes compared to 15 minutes. The televised time will probably become a problem so maybe they can make it 5 rounds for any fights which involved a top 5 fighter.

For me, it is a great idea in getting more judges and they have pretty much all sides of the octagon, but knowing Dana White this is surely not cost-efficient, and he will surely not allow such a thing because it will cost him a lot,

well maybe adding 1 more round I guess but surely it will affect certain fighters' gas tanks in going the distance it is a fair excuse in having fighters adapt in bring their gas tank in a long time well providing that they really need to go the distance anyway maybe not a bad idea after all,

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December 14, 2022, 04:56:08 PM
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Obviously, there is some kind of mutual understanding going on between Dana and Paddy. Dana wants him to be the next poster boy for sure.
I don't know if this is going to be a wise decision made by the UFC or not. Because I certainly think that Paddy has the potential to be the next poster boy for the UFC.
Terrible performance by Paddy Pimblett and clearly lost the first and third round and he still won the fight, what a magical performance by the judges  Cheesy.



Dana White Privilege strikes again. I wish they'd stop doing three rounds fights. They're too short and far too hard to judge when most of them go the distance. Paddy was embarrassing after that fight. Terrible attitude and begging Dana for the fight of the night bonus. Gonna be interesting where they go after this. No doubt Paddy will just fight bums to get the hype train back on track. They should make Paddy V Connor for his comeback fight. That would do well and Connor needs someone he can beat. Two hype trains colliding and only one will survive  Cheesy.

Maybe they need a better method for breaking a tie. Like a shootout in hockey or soccer. Maybe both fighters stand face to face and slap the shit out of each other until one of them gives up. Then you might not see fighters wasting time or clenching to get their decision victory. I don’t actually think this is a good idea, but something needs to be done about horrible judges playing favorites for whatever reason.

Just let em fight on until one of them gets knocked down or taken down. I really think there should be more draws given in both MMA and boxing. There's a lot of times when fights are far too close or the judges just get it massively wrong. Imagine losing your unbeaten record just due to a bad ref. Start giving out more draws and make the rematches happen.
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December 14, 2022, 01:54:04 PM
From all MMA news I saw that Conor McGregor is removed from official UFC rankings, that just shows how relevant he is in MMA at the moment.
For this weekend we have last UFC event in this year and Jared Cannonier vs Sean Strickland should be interesting main event to watch.
It's hard to predict a winner here but I would give slight advantage to Cannonier, but there are no real favorite in this fight.
My main bet for this event is on Khabib's cousin Said Nurmagomedov to win against Saidyokub Kakhramonov, and odds are very good.
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December 14, 2022, 08:35:09 AM
Hey guys, time to focus on the next event and share some notes from a betting perspective.  Wink And that's all that's all that should matter imho.  Well...  That and watching these guys throw leather.  So yeah...  

And here's a couple of vids to watch.  I'm thinking Stickland isn't ready to face a guy like Cannonier after getting KO'd just a couple of months ago.

UFC Free Fight:  Cannonier vs Hermansson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGB5NZ5W1aE

UFC Free Fight:  Strickland vs Allen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kdcac2kn0DM

Here's the Multi Master.  It's free money.  Let's get it!

UFC Fight Night 216 - Multi Master Challenge
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sportsbetio-ufc-fight-night-216-multi-master-challenge-saturday-5428097

I'm also gonna drop my degen parlay some time this week.  Hopefully we win some again.
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December 14, 2022, 06:43:30 AM
I remember Pride or Dream (or some of old promotions) had specific rules: like if during fight time there is no obvious winner, then extra round is given, then another. If by the end of two extra rounds there is still no winner, then its a draw. I dont remember how exactly that rule sound, but it was like to win you must KO/TKO/submit your opponent, otherwise it will be a draw, as basically they dont count rounds and points. In short - kill or die. It was the Asian promotion, I remember that clearly. Such rule might work, but it hurts entertainment factor, because after 15-20min exhausted fighters mostly fight for oxygen, then their opponent.

Kinda like basketball. There has to be a winner and a tie-breaker is supposed to be provided to make sure someone has to win. It can't be called "ultimate" if it's not extreme. But maybe that rule was scratched out because combat sport is becoming mainstream and legitimized so the savage rules are now observed.

If another round was added, Jan will more than likely lose and many of us will win. Either submission or decision at least the people who like and bet on this match are not robbed as well.

Another round could be possible, if that was a 3-round fight. But since it was a 5-round title; I think non of last 15 years UFC fighters ever prepared for a 6-rounded fight.

Btw we have completely missed or forgot to discuss Raul Rosas Jr. fight in UFC 282. The think is not about the fight, but about the kid. He was only 17 when UFC signed him. Kid is the youngest fighter in UFC history to win a fight Cheesy I liked how he copied McGregors "Dana! 50 g's BABYYYY!" Cheesy
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December 14, 2022, 01:49:20 AM
Maybe they need a better method for breaking a tie. Like a shootout in hockey or soccer. Maybe both fighters stand face to face and slap the shit out of each other until one of them gives up. Then you might not see fighters wasting time or clenching to get their decision victory. I don’t actually think this is a good idea, but something needs to be done about horrible judges playing favorites for whatever reason.
What's different with UFC since they've fixed round and time about the fight, the round wouldn't get extended since there's a referee will stop it. The difference is hockey or soccer is transparent to show the score, while in UFC each judges doesn't show their scorecard until the match end. I don't think UFC will accept slap competition that you propose because there's already an official slap fighting championship.
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December 13, 2022, 01:00:59 PM
I remember Pride or Dream (or some of old promotions) had specific rules: like if during fight time there is no obvious winner, then extra round is given, then another. If by the end of two extra rounds there is still no winner, then its a draw. I dont remember how exactly that rule sound, but it was like to win you must KO/TKO/submit your opponent, otherwise it will be a draw, as basically they dont count rounds and points. In short - kill or die. It was the Asian promotion, I remember that clearly. Such rule might work, but it hurts entertainment factor, because after 15-20min exhausted fighters mostly fight for oxygen, then their opponent.

Kinda like basketball. There has to be a winner and a tie-breaker is supposed to be provided to make sure someone has to win. It can't be called "ultimate" if it's not extreme. But maybe that rule was scratched out because combat sport is becoming mainstream and legitimized so the savage rules are now observed.

If another round was added, Jan will more than likely lose and many of us will win. Either submission or decision at least the people who like and bet on this match are not robbed as well.

Maybe they need a better method for breaking a tie. Like a shootout in hockey or soccer. Maybe both fighters stand face to face and slap the shit out of each other until one of them gives up. Then you might not see fighters wasting time or clenching to get their decision victory. I don’t actually think this is a good idea, but something needs to be done about horrible judges playing favorites for whatever reason.
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December 13, 2022, 09:35:37 AM
I remember Pride or Dream (or some of old promotions) had specific rules: like if during fight time there is no obvious winner, then extra round is given, then another. If by the end of two extra rounds there is still no winner, then its a draw. I dont remember how exactly that rule sound, but it was like to win you must KO/TKO/submit your opponent, otherwise it will be a draw, as basically they dont count rounds and points. In short - kill or die. It was the Asian promotion, I remember that clearly. Such rule might work, but it hurts entertainment factor, because after 15-20min exhausted fighters mostly fight for oxygen, then their opponent.

Kinda like basketball. There has to be a winner and a tie-breaker is supposed to be provided to make sure someone has to win. It can't be called "ultimate" if it's not extreme. But maybe that rule was scratched out because combat sport is becoming mainstream and legitimized so the savage rules are now observed.

If another round was added, Jan will more than likely lose and many of us will win. Either submission or decision at least the people who like and bet on this match are not robbed as well.
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December 13, 2022, 07:51:10 AM
I remember Pride or Dream (or some of old promotions) had specific rules: like if during fight time there is no obvious winner, then extra round is given, then another. If by the end of two extra rounds there is still no winner, then its a draw. I dont remember how exactly that rule sound, but it was like to win you must KO/TKO/submit your opponent, otherwise it will be a draw, as basically they dont count rounds and points. In short - kill or die. It was the Asian promotion, I remember that clearly. Such rule might work, but it hurts entertainment factor, because after 15-20min exhausted fighters mostly fight for oxygen, then their opponent.
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December 13, 2022, 07:19:29 AM
And for the many controversial fights that end up with a judge's decision next time pursue a fight that you can finish with a KO or submission because there is no stopping the unreliable judges, for now,

Not a bad idea.  At the very least I think that they could probably extend these fights a little more.  Paddy even said that he felt he was the winner of the first two rounds so round 3 he just danced around and tried to maintain his victory.  Make it a 6 round fight and I think the winner would be much more obvious.  Just like the Suga Sean O'Malley fight, Paddy seemingly was nearing the end of what he had in the tank by round 3.  3 more rounds and it would have been very clear for the referees who the winner was.  I'm not sure why Sean and Paddy are getting such short 3 round fights, but I'd like to see them extended so we can actually see a fight...

Bad decision-making is always a pain in the ass ever since they are involved in the fight business. I would like to see 5 judges on different sides of the octagon.

3 rounds are also too short for non-main event fights. The time gap between non-main events and main events is 10 minutes. So it's like becoming a champion is a whole different level because they are fighting for 25 minutes compared to 15 minutes. The televised time will probably become a problem so maybe they can make it 5 rounds for any fights which involved a top 5 fighter.
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December 12, 2022, 02:32:13 PM
And for the many controversial fights that end up with a judge's decision next time pursue a fight that you can finish with a KO or submission because there is no stopping the unreliable judges, for now,

Not a bad idea.  At the very least I think that they could probably extend these fights a little more.  Paddy even said that he felt he was the winner of the first two rounds so round 3 he just danced around and tried to maintain his victory.  Make it a 6 round fight and I think the winner would be much more obvious.  Just like the Suga Sean O'Malley fight, Paddy seemingly was nearing the end of what he had in the tank by round 3.  3 more rounds and it would have been very clear for the referees who the winner was.  I'm not sure why Sean and Paddy are getting such short 3 round fights, but I'd like to see them extended so we can actually see a fight...
legendary
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December 12, 2022, 01:53:08 PM
Well as I can see there's few users complaining if Ankalaev should win the fight and few users also say if Blachowicz is more deserved, this mean the judges are right to score it draw because it's really hard to make decision which one is the winner. While Paddy Pimblett I have no idea since it should be draw too, when it's really hard to judge, draw is the best option.

It seems many people are loss their bets in this fight, draw is very hard to happen in UFC.

There is something wrong with the decision and many are just upset about it I think it is pretty much normal for some to be frustrated after the judges ruined their bets but for me even though I have bet for Paddy Pimblett I guess Jared Gordon win this match but surely enough but judges knowing what they are doing surely given Pimblett a win, which next time for fighters that don't trust the judge wins the fight with a KO or submission because Dana White thinks the judges are doing the right thing,


I can't believe that the judges made stupid decisions in both fights, anyone can judge that Ankalaev deserved the victory because he almost dominated every round of the fight, even when the referee decided the winner then Błachowicz stretched out his hand like saying "I admit defeat" but he was also surprised that the decision what was announced was a draw. The Paddy vs Gordon fight was also robbery, so the decision was very unsportsmanlike if the judges sided with one of the fighters. So I think Russian fighters should win the fight by knockout, if they don't win by knockout then it will be difficult for them to win the belt. IMO.

Both fights are really controversial but Dana White doesn't want to take legal action because if the judges have been proven to not do their job properly it is a federal prison for them, judges, so the solution to this problem is just winning the fight via KO and submission, nothing more no other option for fighters to have an accurate win and not letting the judges decide on who won the fight,

And for the many controversial fights that end up with a judge's decision next time pursue a fight that you can finish with a KO or submission because there is no stopping the unreliable judges, for now,
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December 12, 2022, 11:10:04 AM
UFC Fight Night: Cannonier vs. Strickland



Date: December 17, 2022
Main Card: SUN, DEC 18 / 2:00 AM EET
Prelims: SAT, DEC 17 / 11:00 PM EET

Venue: UFC Apex

Main card (ESPN+)
Middleweight: Jared Cannonier vs. Sean Strickland            
Lightweight: Arman Tsarukyan vs. Damir Ismagulov            
Flyweight: Amir Albazi vs. Alessandro Costa            
Featherweight: Alex Caceres vs. Julian Erosa            
Lightweight: Drew Dober vs. Bobby Green            
Middleweight: Michał Oleksiejczuk vs. Cody Brundage

Preliminary card (ESPN+)
Women's Strawweight: Cheyanne Vlismas vs. Cory McKenna            
Welterweight: Jake Matthews vs. Matthew Semelsberger            
Middleweight: Julian Marquez vs. Deron Winn            
Bantamweight: Said Nurmagomedov vs. Saidyokub Kakhramonov            
Lightweight: Rafa García vs. Hayisaer Maheshate            
Welterweight: Rinat Fakhretdinov vs. Bryan Battle            
Flyweight: Manel Kape vs. David Dvořák            
Bantamweight: Sergey Morozov vs. Journey Newson   

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_Fight_Night:_Cannonier_vs._Strickland

Not a bad roster for a Fight Night to end the year for the UFC.  It's gonna be around three weeks - almost a month before the next event.  I'm excited to make another lottery ticket after winning three from 182.  At lesst I have a little bit of money to bet around here and the World Cup semis.  Smiley

Match ups I'm looking forward to are Nurmagomedov vs Kakhramonov which should be in the main card imho, Kape vs Dvorak, Tsarukyan vs Ismagulov and the main event.  This event also looks more parlayable...  So hope I can win some again.
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December 12, 2022, 09:24:11 AM
I can't believe that the judges made stupid decisions in both fights, anyone can judge that Ankalaev deserved the victory because he almost dominated every round of the fight, even when the referee decided the winner then Błachowicz stretched out his hand like saying "I admit defeat" but he was also surprised that the decision what was announced was a draw. The Paddy vs Gordon fight was also robbery, so the decision was very unsportsmanlike if the judges sided with one of the fighters. So I think Russian fighters should win the fight by knockout, if they don't win by knockout then it will be difficult for them to win the belt. IMO.

Those who have actually seen both fights, and also say anything from an unbiased perspective, are always going to say that both of these fights should have gone the other way. And this is honestly a truly unbiased opinion from me. I do not care who puts how much money into which fighter, I just want to see a good skillful fight. And I think that’s what both of these fights were. And I know both of these fights were close. But not so close that the judges make such a huge mistake of making these types of decisions. When you have one fighter significantly outperforming the other, a draw is not the best option.
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