Topic: The UFC Info and Prediction Thread - page 239. (Read 85409 times)

I think the problem with the UFC is they favour the champion a little bit too much. The attitude is you have to convince the judges that you truly took that belt. However, I honestly believe there's been some truly shocking decisions more recently than these fights. A few of the ladies fights were very controversial, and I'm failing to understand why. I have noticed that the louder the fighter shouts, the more leeway they are given, and while it might be annoying to watch, maybe they do it for a reason. Maybe, it masks the connection of a punch, and therefore the judges are assuming it landed, rather than getting additional confirmation or maybe it gives the impression it landed. I don't know, as I've never been to a live event, so can't comment on the view point they have, and what can or can't influence it.

What I do know it does seem like a lot of female fighters in particular have been getting favourable results with this approach. For the mens fights I believe control time with no damage or advancement of position is scored too highly. Also, things like fence grabs should be factored in regardless if the ref highlighted it or not. If I'm a judge, and I see someone use the fence illegally to their advancement, I'd be taking that into consideration with what follows.

Recent Petr Yan vs Aljamain Sterling first round was rather controversial. Judges gave their 10 points to Aljo, while lots of people (Dana White as well) thought that Petr won first round and it should be 3:2 in Yans favour. Also I remember Michael Bisping vs Matt Hamill fight. Bisping took lots of damage and good beating, but won this round. Many people thought he won because this was main event fight and the fight took place in London.

I don't want to contribute to the conspiracy or the drama of recent events, but there's one particular judge that seems to always see a different fight to us viewers, and the other judges. In the past few weeks there's been some absolute mind boggling decisions. Some of them where fighters I bet on, and I just ended up thinking I got lucky.

Not sure how we can improve the judging though, at least it's better than boxing. Boxing judges seem to be heavily skewed either to the favourite or the home fighter. We don't see that at least in the UFC.

Little bit of good new for you guys:

Former MMA star Cain Velasquez pleads not guilty in shooting

I am so glad that Cain is not going to spend any more time in jail for his vengeance towards the guy who molested one of Cains family members. And I am much more pleased that this guys trial is scheduled in September.

P.S. Dont know what is worse, face vengeance from Cain in 1 on 1 situation, or when people in jail find out what this guy will be in jail for 

Sure that could be a factor but if you watch Cruz's last couple of matches you'd see that he was knocked down 4 times.  Two vs Casey Kenny and another two vs Pedro Munhoz.  Vera is so durable and gets better and stronger as the fight progresses.  He's a 5 round fighter.  If the match was only three rounds I could see your argument for Cruz but it's not.  I could even see Vera getting the finish.  Cruz's chin is shot.

Here are my lottery tickets.

Onama - Osbourne at 1.85
Add:  Vera - Buday - Silva at 4.64
Add:  Quinlan - Godinez - Benitez at 10.66
Add:  Blackshear - Clark - Jauregi at 71.81
Add:  Nunes - Cachoeira 459.27

And here's the Multi Master.

UFC on ESPN 41 - Multi Master Challenge
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sportsbetio-ufc-on-espn-41-multi-master-challenge-saturday-5409263

Enjoy...

Chito Vera is on point with his kicks and the variation of his side kicks is really amazing Chito Vera has high Intelligence when creating strikes sometimes on point, and that fight with Rob Font was really amazing, he has some success with his hook kicks, side kicks that is preferably hard to defend, and that Sean O'Malley fight that kicks from O'Malley's behind his knee that has severe the peroneal nerve for O'Malley's Leg that lost his dysfunction on his leg and for Marlon Vera to have knowledge about this because he said to the press-con, he surely can do it again, Dominick Cruz will surely need to be ready for this,


We can not avoid certainly that kind of thing for two individuals fighting there will be a favorable side and not so favorable ones, and I think this is certainly a good thing could surely choose not to bet or to still bet on it, for me, I am not underestimating Dominick Cruz, this is just my assessment that Marlon Chito Vera will surely win, Chito is an evolving fighter and still has a ceiling of improvement because of his young age,


The Beautiful Ariane Lipski, I wish this fight will not be canceled and would continue, For me, Ariane Lipski has more experience than Cachoeira and has a slight reach advantage, even though Priscila Cachoeira has the slight height advantage, and both have a purple belt on Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and Ariane Lipski has been on break since Sept 18, 2021, was her last fight, it is almost a year, now, and Cachoeira is pretty much active her last fight was February 26, 2022, but for me, I would still go with our Fighting kitty Ariane Lipski, maybe she is ready to get back at it again,

There might be 2 fighters who are very much underestimated for this event. The Dominator Cruz and Angela Hill. Similar to what you have already mentioned, Cruz is from San Diego. Angela Hill is also from San Diego. I speculate that if they reach the decision, the judges might give questionable split decisions for the 2 of them. This is not very impossible in the UFC.

Also, another underestimated fighter also might be Iasmin Lucindo from Brazil. She is only 20 years old, however, she has more experience than her opponent.


The sexy fighting kitten Ariane Lipski the Violence Queen will be in this next event hehehehee.

My bet is on Marlon Vera to win in main event, he is much younger and he has slight reach advantage in this fight.
He is coming from three wins after losing a fight against legend Jose Aldo in 2020, but he never lost a fight with KO or submission!
Best bet for me in this fight is that fight will go distance with all five rounds, maybe in combination with Very win if you want better odds.

Well you're talking about wrestling, I am talking about grappling, for me, Marlon Vera is a more well-rounded Black belt in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and can finish his opponent both on Stand-up, Submission, or Decision, but well, Dominick Reyes, might be a good wrestler, and surely he would love to take down his opponent and finish it with a ground and pound, and surely Dominick Cruz is prone to be injured, I think he is the most injured fighter in the UFC, while Chito Vera is a Black Belt in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, Cruz is a blue belt in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu but we can not compare that to their level of experience while Vera doesn't have any background on Wrestling and Cruz has an extensive wrestling background training in amateur wrestling maybe Cruz is a more well-rounded guy than Chito Vera,


Marlon Vera's record is mostly note-taking has 4 times Performance of the Night fights, with fighters  Roman Salazar, Brad Pickett, Andre Ewell, and Frankie Edgar, 3 times Fight of the Night versus  Song Yadong, Davey Grant, and Rob Font, and Most stoppage wins in UFC Bantamweight division history with 9 counts, but I think he can not underestimate Dominick Cruz just yet, and I just hope this fight never ends in an injury, I would love to see this ends well because both fighters is really deserve in winning this fight, but for me, I think Marlon Vera could win this aswell,

Vera it is! He is also known for relentless volume and has the cardio and power  to back it up. I don't see Dom Cruz going to win this fight unless he could throw shots with stroke of luck at the right time. He aged and have been injured many times. I reviewed his last fight he nearly lost against Pedro Munhoz.

^  Mmm after watching some tape, it's Vera's durability which makes me kinda lean on him.  And he's somewhat fast enough to evade some of Cruz's offense.  Cruz on the other hand is who I think is more well rounded between these guys.  He has a wrestling background, has good take downs, good foot work, good volume but not much power in those hands.  Vera has power and there's a possibility Vera could finish him at R4 or R5.  And watch Cruz vs Munhoz, I think Cruz's chin isn't what it used to...

Well, It is your right to blame any fighter that you think is not entertaining, and surely we all have different perspectives here, and I respect your opinion, it is just good that we are throwing at each other what we think about certain fighters, what we think about their style and skills, surely I am in no disposition to say what is right and what is wrong, but I think we all have our own understanding with things and I respect that,

Well I think in other places that kind of fight is really not tolerable and for a mad audience about the fight, I think the organizer should have done something about it, but it is still a different thing, an official match on the UFC and a fight outside the UFC is a pretty different thing aswell,

But I also agree with you that the Adesanya VS Romero fight was a kick-on-the-gut fight and it should not happen again, and Romero is just copying what Adesanya is doing which is very distasteful, and knowing how Yoel Romero fought, was really a spectacle to see,


I could also say the same, right now Marlon Vera is used to a full 5th round fight and it also applies for Dominick Cruz, but for me, I am going with a well-rounded fighter, and that is Marlon Vera, and I haven't seen if there are a double bet event for Marlon Vera on this one for stake.com, I will look for it maybe I haven't seen it, but last fight with Alexa Grasso both Vera and Grasso have a special bonus when you would bet and win for them,

I could see the main event being a scenario for a live bet for Vera.  Vera usually starts slow and gets better as the fight goes.  So being a 5 rounder could be in Vera's favor.  Earlier this year or was it late last year, Stunna of Stake said they were opening the MMA market for live betting this year.  But anyway...  Yeah, I guess live bet Vera after R1 or R2.

Here's some replays of both.

UFC Free Fight:  Cruz vs Munhoz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtcVHlSozlY

UFC Free Fight:  Vera vs Font
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vH6tU2R8Sto

There's more replays for tape study in both MMACore sites.

https://www.mma-core.com/

https://mmacore.tv/

Have fun. 

Me neither but I think main event Vera vs Cruz will be interesting to watch.
One more fight worth watching from prelims is heavyweight fight Łukasz Brzeski vs Martin Buday, I remember people praising polish fighter Brzeski.

He has the same blood like Kamaru so there is potential for him to be challenger in future, but he needs to prove this in next fights.
I can't judge him based only on one or two fights and I was more talking about his genetic predisposition, and Dana will use his connection with Kamaru for promotion, and I think he likes him.
Interesting to listen his post fight interview, he speaks perfect English language: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUQ-pxRhpNc

I wasn't saying any of those 200lbs+ guys couldn't sleep me with their left.  It just appeared to me that it was more of a punch thrown to gauge distance or setup a coming combination.  It didn't seem like the haymaker sleeper punch to put down a heavyweight.  Obviously it was though.  Sort of reminded me of the punch that McGregor knocked out Aldo with.  It looked like Aldo was throwing the harder shot from that exchange, but he didn't even hurt Connor and ended up on the floor.  The muscle memory on these fighters is something else.

I think I am blaming Izzy because he is champion. I am demanding something more from him, 200% in every fight, I give him no discounts. Like in video games, when you fight a final boss, you dont expect the fight to be as other fights against regular goons. It it always entertaining to watch Izzy before the fight, after the fight, when he is preparing or trashtalking. But when it comes to a fight, he is to cautious, he waits to counter strike.

From Russia MMA community: There was a tournament recently, where in finals two fighters from same gym met. Their fight looked more like sparring. Both fighters instead of dealing max damage or striking with full power, prefer to do punctuated beats. The crowd did not like that. Little remark, it was somewhere in Dagestan, or fighters were from Dagestan. People from there are hot blooded. Of course they dont like such main event fight. The fight saved president of that organization. He has entered the octagon, stopped the fight and claimed it as no contest. Fighters did not get bonuses and good rewards. Was this a right decision ? Towards fighters probably not, towards spectators, absolutely yes.

(this is a reply to Adesanya vs Romero fight, as you have mentioned them, and this fight was rather boring to warch)

Well I surely understand what you are saying and we surely have different opinions, and I also admit that Israel Adesanya is really not entertaining at times, he is constantly waiting for his opponent to strike, and when the time Yoel Romero also waited for him to strike the referee has scolded them that the judges needed to score a hit, but they are just taunting each other, pretty much a not so good fight for Israel Adesanya in my opinion, but when we look at some boxers who were hated because of their Style like Mayweather, this goes to prove that Israel Adesanya has picked the safest way possible for him in winning the fights, but yes it looks so boring for some fans to watch, and for some, it is still entertaining as long as Adesanya wins,