Topic: The UFC Info and Prediction Thread - page 239. (Read 100463 times)

I don't think so.
Fighters have more options nowadays and they are more aware that Dana White and UFC are exploiting them more than in any other professional sport.
When compared with NBA, NFL and other professional sports organizations UFC is taking much larger piece of cake and they live scraps to fighters.
There is no future when you have policy like that in capitalism.

Well, it is a great idea, in my opinion, we can surely discuss certain upcoming fights and talk about what we think about who's going to get to win, but upon seeing many posts people would want to summarize certain fights that happen this year, and I think it is a great idea in making discussion about certain fights that happen this year that we could discuss if what we think what is our fight of the year, Robbery of the Year could be the recent fight of Jan Blachowicz VS Magomed Ankalaev was that was a robbery for Ankalaev, but I think this would need to have a voting and some nomination about the fight,


Yes! I really admit that I am really bored watching UFC when the fight goes to the ground with a takedown, but because I don't have any knowledge yet about what is happening and what is Jui-Jitsu actually, upon making research and knowledge in executing the technique, well I  was really shocked when how hard it is if one can pull off something like that and the stamina that a wrestler in exerting to execute it, it was really crazy, and because of that knowledge I was now really enjoying it a lot, and Khabib Nurmagomenodov was the one that put fire in making efforts in really taking knowledge about the craft,

It is actually sad to see that eagle FC is not doing as well as it should be. I think it had a lot of potentials. And yes, you are right. Eagle FC is nowhere near as popular as the other, Bellator, KSW, and others. I think at the start it showed really great potential. But after all, every fighter is going to dream about fighting in the UFC.




I agree that the popularity of the UFC is not decreasing. But my opinion is that it should be growing at a higher rate. After all, it is the best mixed martial art organization ever in the world.

When we think about that standard, to me, it feels like UFC should be doing better. I am not trying to just talk shit about the UFC. I am trying to say that UFC should hold a lot higher standards for themselves. And I think that can start by being the fighters more, I really do not think that the fighters are getting paid enough.




UFC as the biggest MMA organization in the world should be doing better in my opinion. Yes, they are in a profit. But I think they might show some of that profit to the fighters as well. My thinking between the UFC versus the WWE started when I saw almost all the WWE fighters, or I think I should say entertainers have a very luxurious lifestyle. But in the UFC the fighters are asking for a raise which UFC is not giving them. I think UFC has enough money to give more to the fighters. I believe that the fighters are entitled to it.

Eagle FC, and various other promotions are growing quite nicely, but that's just because mixed martial arts in general is gaining popularity. None of these promotions are currently competing with the UFC in terms of growth or popularity though. UFC almost has a Monopoly based on viewings. I guess you could probably say they do have the Monopoly.

This is capitalism for you in full swing though. The UFC will likely continue to have that supremacy for a long time, simply because they make the most money, and are able to market their company more. You mention Eagle FC or Bellator to someone outside of the MMA world, and they'll likely not know a single fighter or might have not heard of the organisation at all. The UFC they'll know of.

Sorry, but with Eagle FC you are wrong. If you examine MMA Info and Predictions - Bellator, KSW, PFL, ONE... topics last 10-20 pages, you will rarely see an Eagle FC there. Try to google this promotion. Their webpage hasnt been updated with latest info for a while. It looks like Khabib does not have much free time to develop his promotion.


Take a look attendance number https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UFC_events. You would see that they are growing every year. To bad UFC does not share each event PPV numbers. But I think they will be on more or less same level.

The UFC is only really starting to take off, including MMA in the mainstream entertainment business. What's different is Dana has had to accomodate this new fan base, and therefore the UFC has changed quite a lot. You only need to look at the Ultimate Fighter tv series to see how much the UFC has adapted over the years. The earlier seasons were a lot more raw, while they're a little more professionally run these days.

That doesn't stop at the show, as the whole UFC production is very much the same.

Well he did say that it's not in its prime anymore and that its popularity is waning.  To that I say, I bet to disagree.  He prolly isn't really following the UFC that much or for that matter, MMA.  Like it or not, the UFC has been gotten a lot bigger than it has ever been.

Dober deserves it...  He's been with the UFC for a long time now.  I could be wrong but I think he was at the top 10 at 155 back in the day.  He's 34 now and could still be in good match ups.  Just nothing to expect as far as climbing to top 5 and a title shot goes.

I don't think you really explain the reasons behind those things.  First off, the UFC has been wildly successful as a business.  When it started taking investment at crazy valuations it was pumping tons of money into the brand to boost that valuation.  I think now we're at the stage where the investments have been made, the brand was built, and now they're collecting the money.  Once the money machine is running, they don't need that same focus on getting their brand introduced to the masses.

WWE is a money machine that has been rolling for a long time.  It's ok to not beat them in every measurement every year.

To rest this debate, i will ask you to check the revenue they are earning in the last 6 years and the revenue they used to earn before that. UFC is more popular and mainstream at this juncture and there are more fans globally watching the sports than ever and you think that it is not the prime days for the UFC  .


There was a time when there were Organizations like Pride, Strikeforce, Dream which were more popular than the UFC during that time period and the best fighters were on those promotions but eventually they all closed their doors and now UFC is the only major player. I think you have the wrong theory about boxers making huge money than MMA fighters.

In boxing only the top draw makes the money which is the main event, the rest of the fighters in the card makes much less than fighters in the UFC. So the idea of making money through boxing you need years to reach those level and not everyone reaches those levels nor becomes a champion but in MMA you do not need to be a champion to make half a million dollars per fight.

To many people, Jiu Jitsu, wrestling can seem boring. I have been enjoying it very much from the very beginning, it varies from person to person. Because as a matter of fact, Jiu Jitsu is a very very specific branch, I think you need to know a little about the subject to enjoy it. How to make armbar, how to do defense, then you start to guess while watching the fight, in which position, which temporary will do. I think they are very valuable because they are a complete flow.

I've heard that the UFC is on the decline, no, there were some great promotions this year. There were fights that I watched with great excitement. Therefore, maybe it may decline, due to the decisions taken in the results. There are still many referee decisions that are discussed in UFC. I even heard that an investigation was launched for a referee.

I very well understand what you’re trying to convey. You guys are saying that UFC is obviously the biggest MMA organization ever. I absolutely agree with that.

You guys are also saying that I should not have compared UFC with Eagle FC. I will admit that it was not a suitable comparison. But as far as I know, Eagle FC is growing in popularity quite quickly. I wanted to say that even though it only started recently, it will take them a long time to get close to UFC's popularity.




Another thing is, I said UFC is not in its prime. There are two reasons for that.

First of all as far as we know the pay-per-view is decreasing day by day. And obviously, I am obliged to say that prime time was when Conor McGregor was in his prime. He was bringing unbelievable numbers for Dana White. So, I believe that was prime time for UFC. And the popularity of UFC is certainly not the same as it was at that time.

And secondly, I am sure we are all aware of a certain wrestling organization named WWE. I don’t think Dana White is doing a good enough job when something fake is generating more annual revenue. I want UFC to surpass the popularity of WWE.

I have re-read his post and is seems that he said opposite - "there is no MMA promotion that is close to UFC level of fame". But the fact that he has mentioned Eagle FC shows that he is a new guy here Bellator seems to be the most popular and biggest among "MMA but not UFC" promotions. Strikeforce used to be one step below UFC. They also had regular events, big name and huge rewards. But UFC bought them I think he is confusing crazy hype and overall popularity. During Khabib vs McGregor, world media was indeed more on a hype than today.

Did you notice, that after Drew Dober beat Bobby Green this weekend, he has now in lightweights top15, and, we see no Tony Ferguson there now

It's def wrong to say the UFC is past its prime.  As a company, it's more than thrice over larger than what it was 10 years ago and they're still growing.  They have the biggest PPV events in MMA, biggest non PPV events and obv have the biggest roster of fighters.  And it's not just that, they have most of the best fighters in MMA.

And it's funny how the other guy doubles down and says the Eagle FC is close to the UFC's level.  Khabib is just starting to realize how hard it is to be a promoter.

But I will say this, there was a time when it was the golden years in the UFC from a fan's perspective.  It was when Demetrious Johnson, Dominic Cruz, Aldo, GSP, Anderson Sliva, Jon Jones and Cain were all title holders at the same time.  Good times.

I would come up with a counteroffer and offer to summarize this year in UFC. We will have time to discuss future events, but, as we see everyone often make summarizes or year review, why not make our own?

I would gladly read about users thoughts about fight of the year, upset of the year, robbery of the year, knockout or submission of the year, amazement of the year and etc.

Well, just my opinion, many are used to just watching boxing, but with other mixed martial arts they seem not knowledgable about it and some without the knowledge of Jui-Jitsu dub it as boring and I will be true here at 1st that I was really clueless about MMA that it has this wrestling and grappling on the ground I think it was really boring at 1st, but knowing and understanding those technique executed with precision I surely learn to love it, and seeing Khabib Nurmagomedov for the 1st time I was really in love with his technique with his ground games and how he executes it easily,

Well in terms of payment I think Boxing in exhibition matches tends to have much payment but with regular boxing matches I think boxing still does have much sponsorship, because boxing are well known than with MMA or maybe Dana White sure has promotion but still controlling the payments of his fighter,


I am seeing a fight picking again, but all Dana White is doing is getting this kid's head to explode because he surely has too much about himself instead of helping him to have the quality of training he can get, it is just false hope in getting ready for the top fighters of the UFC, for me, it is not really helping it just creeps up to Paddy's head that he is the best, for me right now that hype is already derailed, Jared Gordon just explodes him so much and dominating the division is very impossible with those top fighters in that division,

Boxing is more dangerous than MMA, that's the reason why people are choose MMA rather than boxing. If you search on google about death in boxing and death in MMA, you will see there's huge difference about it. The other thing maybe boxing career is more harder since there's not many organizer who launch an event for unknown fighters, unlike MMA you can choose either One championship, KSW, Bellator, UFC etc etc.

I like Paddy the baddy because he is an annoyance to everyone hehe. However, I very much agree with your assessment and if we force ourselves to see the reality after the fight versus Jared Gordon, the hypetrain is already beginning to derail. What can Dana presently do for him? His skills are not enough to enter top 10 in his weight division, he has no discipline with his body and he now cannot speak against hand sanitizer boy because no one would believe him. Hand sanitizer boy would kill him within 5 minutes hehehe.

Because it is mixed martial arts, it covers all cultures, which makes this organization more attractive. I find it weird that people want to fight here, they can get a better career and better money in Boxing. In order to do MMA, you need to bring at least 2-3 sports branches to the best level. The fact that it is so troublesome makes this sport special. I hope that the wages paid for the athletes will be balanced in the future, this needs to happen.

I, my eyes got opened to Martial Arts when watching anime with Martial Arts on them Baki the Grappler is one of them, and applying that to MMA that have a close relation anyway UFC is way cooler than just plain old boxing, and you are right about it, there are many options in finishing his or her opponent, and surely I was looking up in doing that moves that is why I am a fan of MMA and the UFC now,

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Right now we don't have any event for 2 weeks, so it is a 2-week long break, for us, and the UFC but right now I want to discuss fights that are on the horizon but were canceled due to fighters backing down, and 1st was Alex Pereira VS Khamzat Chimaev - and for this fight, I think this is going to be a great fight we could see how Khamzat Chimaev could do to a bigger opponent, and for Pereira, if he can handle those heavy wrestling of Khamzat, and why did Chimaev back down for no reason, and now Pereira is saying that Khamzat is scared of him, but I think it is because of Pereira's condition he will fight Chimaev in Rio if they fight in the Light Heavyweight Division, so there will be no cut weight that will happen, for me Alex Pereira will be on the advantage on that Weight class, and Chimaev Answered that he will not risk a fight without the belt, at the Middleweight division,

im pretty upset the Costa vs Whittaker fight has been cancelled, however the UFC should've definitely planned in advance for this as Costa had made his point very clear on what he would do.