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I am about to say this and I know a lot of people might actually get triggered by it. I never liked Artem Lobov. I always feel like if a person can somehow turn on a man from his own country, he cannot be trusted.

And tell me how can this man be trusted when he first said he did not want money and the relation between him and Connor is purely a relation of friendship? However, now he is asking for money?

If Connor is such a loyal friend of his, why doesn't he just ask for money? I am sure that Connor has a lot of money right?


Regards

Duke

Once upon a time Conor McGregor has offered 1 million to Lobov as a sort of a respect, that Lobov has talked Conor from starting other business, and insisted on whiskey, found distillery, promotors, companions and etc (hard to trust and check that Lobov really has done all that). Lobov refused that offer, because they are friends, and it is a bad manner to take money from a friend for a voluntary help.  And now he wants 5% of what McGregor got from that Proper 12 deal

Lobov could also sue UFC and demand money UFC got from McGregor vs Khabib PPV, event and etc, because he has started that conflict between them

Actually, I really don't know Lobov, and I haven't watched his bare-knuckle fights, but I have researched his past fights and his involvement with Conor McGregor, Well for me I really don't like the guy, and I also don't hate him, his antics might be not that great but it is not really over the top, and sometimes he also has shown control over his emotions well at times sort of, but he is still keeping his hustle because he knows that if he is not relevant anymore his popularity would surely drop, and an exhibition fight with him will not be well acknowledged, but yes this latest issue he surely thinking about the legal action he can do and fulfilling it on the right way,

Well, Khabib Nurmagomedov is a unique one for me even though he doesn't have great standing the threat on the ground would surely ruin his opponent in getting into takedown defense, thus ruining his opponent game play and momentum, that is how good Khabib Nurmagomedov was,




It is really hard to assume something like this if we can not see something happen, for me Khabib Nurmagomedov is a coach now, and no one has ever beaten him, that was it, and right now the new generations will surely come, and let's just not think further if we would not see it because there is no point at all, for now let's just support the other Dagestan fighters mostly Khabib's families and friends,

Sad news for those who waited for Texeira vs Prochazka rematch - two days ago Jiri has injures his shoulder and the fight is cancelled now. Jiri has to make a surgery now and pass a half year rehabilitation... That is why on UFC 282 Blachowicz and Ankalaev are going to fight for a vacant belt. Yes, vacant. Jiri vacated his title and Texeira has refused to fight against Ankalaev, that replaced Jiri.

There is a wave of jokes in twitter and instagram about it - Jiri is so tired of USADA, that he has decided to injure himself to get some rest from those tests. He has passed USADA tests more than 60 times this year. And he only got 1 fight this year...

Btw, Conor McGregor is the only fighter in current UFC rooster, that hasnt passed any USADA test this year Any thought about that ?

Honestly, ever since I watched Khabib I haven't been able to find anyone else who I think is able to perform to the standards I expect from them. It is true that I can see a fighter who is doing really well, but sometimes I feel that this fighter is good, but not as good as Khabib. So that thing is always going to be at the back of my mind. To be honest, I would have liked to see another fighter who is probably at least as capable as he is.

Lobov was not someone I liked very much. My personal opinion is that he was given a lot more credit than he actually deserved for what he did. Despite how controversial my opinion is going to be, I actually think he was overrated in the first place.


regards

Duke

Jon Jones is another fighter that is basically a one in a million. To do what he has done is amazing, especially since he's a lot more rounded than Khabib. I'm not trying to compare the two there, they're totally different weight classes, and fighters. However, Jon relies on stand up a lot more, and doesn't always play it safe. Khabib's style was arguably more safe. That doesn't mean it's any less great what he did. I just always find it impressive that Jon did so well, at the weight division he was fighting in, and his skills are very well rounded. He can wrestle, and he can strike. He's basically the perfect package, except for his antics outside of the cage.

I'd probably be a fan of Jon if it wasn't for the things that have happened outside of the cage, and the fact that he does seem to commit a lot of dirty fouls. Probably because he knows he can get away with it, I mean just look at some of his fights. Also, look at Poirier's, and Chandlers fight to see just how much they can get away with, blatantly.

He couldn't do anything else, so he decided to step down in his own terms.
This is going to make even more confusion in this division, first Aleksandar Rakic got serious knee injury with long recovery process and now it's even worse shoulder injury for Jirí Prochazka.
Maybe this two guys will return in much different situation and I predict that Magomed Ankalaev will be the new LightHeavyweight champion, and Teixeira just turned down fight against him.
Dana White could bring some fresh blood to fill the gap created by this injuries, but this just shows how brutal this sport is.

Jon Jones is the youngest champion in UFC history and he dominated the Light Heavyweight division and now he is moving up to Heavy Weight for the first time.

He was not banned for doping steroids, he was banned when he was arrested for hit and run and he was forced to vacate his title. I still believe he tested positive for benzoylecgonine and it is not a secret that he is a wild person who does cocaine and parties till he gests wasted one week before his fights and the thing he got popped is a metabolite of cocaine.

In Heavy Weight most of the fighters are above 35 years and Jon Jones is in that age range and younger than Francis Ngannou even though he dominated everyone for over a decade. The only way Jon Jones gets defeated is a knockout as they all hit hard but he is a master at maintaining distance. He will use his patented oblique kick which will mess up the knees for these heavy fighters and anyone who faced him in the past are never the same after facing him and only Daniel Cormier is an exception.

I have not seen his official Sambo record but in one of the podcast Josh Thomson said that Khabib has over 250 sambo fights which is really crazy.

I am following the sport for a very long time and there was a time when Jon Jones used to win easily during his early days and Georges St-Pierre was another fighter who fights safe even though his background was Karate he turned to Wrestling even then he used to have bloody battles but not Khabib Nurmagomedov, no black eye, no cuts or a drop of blood in one of the most brutal sport is astonishing.

Khamzat Chimaev is a different breed, his confidence is high right now but he is not battle tested nor had 250 Sambo fights to his name and against Gilbert Burns he was a bloody mess and when things got tough he was swinging wildly without any technique and you would never see that with Khabib.

All of his coaches and training partners who are not even from Russia would vouch that he never looses a round during training which is crazy and he would literally sink even Middle Weight and Light Heavyweight elite fighters during training and that is the level of competitiveness of Khabib.

Watched some of his Football (Soccer) videos and even in that he refuse to loose  .

The fighters who trains with Khabib says we have not seen all his skills which he showed in training inside the cage.

The fighters Khabib trains have deep respect for him and they will never flex against him even if they are World Champions. For the Islam Makhachev fight camp Khabib spent a million dollars for all the fighters he trained in the UAE and he is not taking a penny from them. He is a truly different breed and he even postponed Eagle FC schedules to train them to become champions.

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Huge respect to Jiří Procházka for vacating the belt and not holding the division. Jan Błachowicz and Magomed Ankalaev will be fighting for the title fight now because Glover Teixeira declined to fight Magomed Ankalaev in a short notice.

I just wish we could have seen Khabib a little more in the fighting game. He was the best pound-for-pound fighter. No one even came close to him. And also cannot compare him with anyone because no one actually took Khabib to the limit at all.

The fact that he had been fighting game for so long, and he had not been even cut once is absolutely amazing. I know we can say that Aslam is a great player right now but honestly, I don’t think anyone is going to disagree with the fact that none of the fighters which Khabib trains would have been able to beat him.

I liked Lobov, he was actually one of my favourites in whatever season of the Ultimate Fighter he was in. Obviously, money tends to get between friends, but he might have a case. Conor has shown that he's not the most perfect person outside of the cage too with his fist fights, and various other things. Conor seems to be pretty quiet about the situation though, not sure if that's because he's got respect for his friend or he's been told to keep it hush for legal reasons.

Also, for the Khabib comparisons I'm only doubtful it's not often that you get superstars that are so dominant that they basically have a clean record. That almost never happens in MMA, and certainly not in the UFC. In boxing sure, but that's a little different.

I truly agree, when I am just starting with MMA I don't really know anything and any fighter in the UFC at all, and I really don't know UFC, but Khabib Nurmagomenodov was basically the 1st UFC fighter when I saw his highlights I was in total amazement because he was unique for me because of his ground scramble, grappling and his ground game was really unique as well, and so I end up excited whenever he fights inside the Octagon,

Well, you are right Conor McGregor was surely having difficulty in facing Khabib Nurmagomedov more than anything because of the ground threats basically he was not focused on his striking, and that is how Khabib was amazing more over,


Yes, If he can get some proof he can process it with legalities that he co-owns McGregors business but I think Conor will surely file a counter for this, and surely if proven that he really has legal co-ownership then he may take it, but I highly doubt,

So true.  Most of the hardcore fans had an idea of what Khabib was capable of but he didn't have the panache so they never really thought much of him.  During that time when he was supposed to fight Tony Ferguson, a lot of the realest fans were on the Ferguson side...  Including me.  Lmao.  But peak Ferguson vs Khabib would've still been a good match up at the time imho.  But in hindsight, Khabib def would've looked like a 1.30 favorite.  Lol.  And that's being generous.

Anyway, it sucks that we don't have an event this weekend.   

Conclusion - bare knuckle fights are dangerous for your brain Lobov was not the smartest guy in the world before, but his last fight in bare knuckle only proved that. He went out against Denys Berinchyk, undefeated professional boxer, Olympic games and Worlds champ silver medallist That is such a big LOL, what a guy with t-rex hands can do against one of the best boxers of that time. And now that proper 12 co-ownership announcement What can I say, good luck Artem proving that

Yeah, don't get me wrong they're both already quite accomplished. However, Khabib was definitely accomplished before coming the UFC. He was the world champion, I think twice. He basically only has one loss as far as I know in a relatively long Sambo career.

That said, I've seen Usman tested, but I've never actually seen Khabib tested. It was almost like it was on easy mode. As soon as he decided to take it to the mat, it pretty much ended either with ground, and pound or via a submission moments later. Honestly, if I was to compare anyone it would be Chimaev, even though I'm not a massive fan of him personally due to his personality more than anything, at least the way he portrays himself.

Khabib also basically beat a in prime Conor on the feet. Then obviously, we all know what happened. However, Conor was losing that fight on the feet. You could say it was due to the threat of a takedown, but Khabib properly hurt Conor a few times before taking it to the mat.

I personally think Khabib is one of the best in all combat sports. Oman, nad Usman carry the name, and therefore have very big boots to fill. Maybe, they can do it who knows being so young.

Yup! I have seen the news, about Artem Lobov trying to sue Conor McGregor in The Irish Independent, and because of this news I think I want to see a Conor McGregor VS Artem Lobov, but I don't know about Lobov if he's still going to fight because he already stopped since 2018 in the UFC and 2021 on the Bare-knuckle fights, but still friendship turned frienemies,


Right now I am curious if Jon Jones can maneuver his moves in the heavyweight division I really want to see it 1st if he can have the firepower to be a threat to Francis Ngannou the champion, in what he has shown from his recent fight against Ciryl Gane that has a fight IQ, speed and flexibility moving like a light heavyweight, has done by Francis Ngannou with just showing his takedown prowess, I think Jon Jones is not yet ready for him, well this is just my opinion, but 1st let's see what Jon Jones can do with the likes of Stipe Miocic, Curtis Blaydes, or even Tai Tuivasa for me, 

Many people ignored Khabib for long time and he had to fight with everyone in his division to get a chance for championship title fight.
It's the same thing with his cousins now, but I think Omar can easily become champion in UFC Bantamweight division, and Usman Nurmagomedov is already champion in Bellator Lightweight division.
Results speak for themselves.
Khabib is now 34 years old and he is retired, Umar is 26 and Usman is 24, so they both have bright future in MMA sports.

I think Connor is indeed gearing up towards a fight and obviously it won’t be with Khabib who is retired and likely not in top tier fighting shape. For me though there’s the question of when Connor will actually fight again. He hasn’t been getting drug tested which is why he’s filming for a movie and looking like Rambo. I think when he does finally announce a fight, he’ll probably have to do it 6 months out and get on a drug testing program.

If that's the case, I'm really hoping it's Francis Ngannou. I don't fancy seeing Bladyes getting knocked out, as I just don't think he could beat Jones. That's assuming that Jones is still at his best. He's at a decent amount of time off, and he isn't getting any younger. Although, he's just got such raw talent that I just don't think Curtis would fare well.

Gane could work. Although, I just feel Jones takes him down, and beats him. I wasn't impressed with his wrestling against a compromised Francis Ngannou. Francis probably does get beat honestly. However, he's got that power to worry Jones enough. Jon is just so quick, and throws up a lot of problems I'm not confident of many guys going against him.

I'd love to see Curtis knock him out if it did mean those two fighting.

After I started martial arts, I started to follow UFC for about 2 seasons. I've watched a few old Jon Jones fights, this guy fights really smooth, was he always heavyweight?

I also know that he banned from the UFC because of doping steroids, if that's not true, can you tell me why you left because he's younger.

As for the fight on March 5, I saw on social media that they were posterizing the three most troublesome heavyweight names alongside Jon Jones today. I think he can easily beat Curtis Blaydes. But it's very difficult with Francis and Gane. If he starts with Blaydes and beats him, he will have made a great comeback.

Since you touched this topic, the incident happened because Artem Lobov was cornered by Khabib because he was talking shit about him in an interview he gave to a Russian channel and the anti climax is that Artem Lobov is suing Conor McGregor claiming that he needs to pay him millions because he claims was a co owner in his proper 12 whiskey .

Andrew Tate said it best, you cannot defeat someone like Khabib who trains allah trains allah trains allah kind of person . Referring to his dedication of just training and prayers and no other distraction.

It is official Jon Jones is coming back for UFC 285 on March 5. The opponent is most probably Francis Ngannou and if he is not available then there will be an interim belt with either Ciryl Gane or Curtis Blaydes.