Topic: The UFC Info and Prediction Thread - page 321. (Read 97174 times)

Yeah, I mainly say that because usually they don't connect that well. Not that they don't happen, but that the fighters are usually moving away enough to mitigate the actual force. You could see that kick not only landed perfectly, but was also executed perfectly right to the flick of the toes. It was a just a very unlikely event, matched with the speed to surprise, and the fact that Tony wasn't expecting it at all, is the reason he was absolutely folded.

I'll admit it, I was worried for him. He didn't get up for quite some time, and appeared to be out for some time. However, I don't think he's finished as a fighter, and I do think he has demonstrated more than this fight to justify saying he has a decent chin. I've never seen anyone take a beating as much as him, except Kattar in the Max Holloway fight.

Dunno..  I'm back and forth with Pereira and Ponz.  I think it's gonna be a really close fight.  And rightly so, the bookies lined it very close.  So yeah, but I feel like Ponz might be the guy.  He'll bring the pressure on Periera quite a bit and as you said we've seen Pereira slow down a bit later in most of his fights.  Ponz has also fought the better competition too.  But still dunno...  Ask me again later in the week.  Lol.

Some free fights...

UFC Free Fight:  Holm vs Aldana
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ku7KOVm9wbw

UFC Free Fight:  Vieira vs Tate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGurwmQ7_Ec

Anyway, who you guys got for the main event?

Oh! sorry, I never included that I really never think him to be champion with the level of competition in the Lightweight Division, even though there is no reigning champion, I think that Tony Ferguson may not reach the top 6 in that division, and yes, he really wants to be the best so he might look at the championship fights, but I guess the money fight is what is Tony Ferguson is needing right now, I think he can have a fight with Nate Diaz, that would be a crowd favorite or a Conor McGregor, or even a Raphael Dos Anjos fight but yes, he can not go beyond that boundaries anymore, but who knows if he can go and went Glover Teixeira style but not really counting that much,


For me, I think Ferguson doesn't have a good chin anymore, just like Glover Teixeira that really needs to protect his chin, Tony Ferguson is like that, and that is why Michael Chandler from that 1 kick KOe'd Tony Ferguson, as you have said "Those type of kicks don't usually land as good as it did that night" I really think that is because Ferguson's chin is not that solid anymore, he may be good at the stand-up and yes Chandler is pressured by that but the problem with Ferguson, he doesn't know how to execute the finisher, or how he could finish Chandler, and in my opinion, Ferguson really needs a good team if he wants to continue fighting in the UFC, he really needs a fighting partner,

Then maybe it is time to move up. Champ and top4 in welterweight looks unachievable for Tony, but with other fighters he surely can compete.

Does anyone know, does Tony cut weight? His picture in wikipedia shows that he was rather fatty back in old good Ultimate Fighter season 13 times. Moreover, When he participated in TV show, he was a welterweight.

I don't know about that. In previous fights it has held up pretty well. I mean like I said before that's probably the best kick Chandler will ever throw, and actually land. Those type of kicks don't usually land as good as it did that night. Of course that's going to drop arguably anyone, and unfortunately Ferguson wasn't given the chance to actually try, and survive it since he was knocked out cold. It was a nasty kick, which landed absolutely perfectly.

Up until that point, and maybe the takedown, Chandler was getting beat up pretty bad. Every exchange Ferguson seemed to hurt him. I don't think he's as finished as everyone is making out. I think its more that being fans we might be a little concerned about his health since he's been fighting for so long, and the way he fights usually means he's subject to quite a few beatings. However, from a skill point of view he was still threatening a very good chandler who's a contender. That says a lot to me, and I by no means think Tony is finished.

I honestly don't think he can be helped anymore. At 38 years old in a division where the average age is around 30, 32 fights under his belt with a number of them at a high level, and a mentality that is completely chaotic, I am hard-pressed to believe he is able to acquire new skills (technical, strategical and mental) that would push him above his current status. He might be good for a money fight or two, but I doubt he can keep up with the likes of Oliveira, Makhachev, Dariush or Fiziev.

Tony Ferguson really needs help, I really thought that fight with Michael Chandler will be his last but after that Knockout from Chandler he stand-up wanting for more and from an interview he kind of honest with what he is saying he enjoy the 1st round of the fight where he is smoking Michael Chandler on the standup and I got to admit I really think that tony will win that fight, but that unexpected kick from Chandler really has got him, and he got to admit that he doesn't have a chin anymore, so he likely need to move away from the strikes, and from that interview, I really like his mentality he wants to move forward, and continue what he wants and what he loves, and I really think his enjoyment is whats important here and he really wants to do did his own way,

I think let's just let Tony Ferguson do what he likes maybe he will be the next Glover Teixeira but I think he needs a team, or a sparring partner to do this, and yes Charles Oliveira could be a good one, but let's just wait and see maybe he has better ideas for getting that offer down,


I really respect Tony Ferguson's decision not to accept Charles Oliveira's camp for a partnership, because yes Charles Oliveira is a potential target for Tony Ferguson, and he likes to settle a score for him, let's just say I am really amazed that Tony Ferguson has come so far in the UFC without a team or a coach to guide him, he is his own coach, but I think right now he really needs help and he really needs to team if he wants the championship belt he badly be needing a team,

Yeah, I've never had much luck when adding more than four favourites to an accumulator. It always seems to be the one with the lowest odds that loses too.

Yeah, I'm definitely on Pereira's side, although that's just because he's one of my favourite fighters in the UFC. If I was going to make a sensible prediction, it would probably be he loses on points, due to gassing out. I think he has been getting slightly better with his gas tank, at least in his last fight, but it's obviously still a huge problem. Although, I'm not going to complain too much, because when he's going full throttle he's one of the most unique fighters in the roster. Always entertaining up until he gasses.

I am not super excited with this upcoming fight card and female main event, but there are few good fights I want to watch.
If you ask me for betting on this fights than I would have no idea who to pick but I will go for some underdogs this time.

Tony is Tony. Doesn't realized yet that he needs Chuck Norris to win every fight of his career.


Its a long shot but if Khabib accepts it, Olivera is like winning a lottery. He wouldnt even have to win. Olivera mastered the ground fight like its his territory so he belives which he must have a chance against Khabib.

He is a champion (I still believe that he is, he did not lose his belt to Gaethji, he has lost his belt to scales lol), he is allowed to do that. And I think he challenges Khabib, I think that as a champion, he does not like when people compare him and Khabib. Like Khabib with 29-0 was more champion than he with 33-8-1. Undefeated champion always looks greater than anyone with 1 in loss record.

Maybe it is his pride. Ferguson looked like he cannot accept that he is already past his prime. He refused Oliveira's offer because he really thought that he is a serious contender and would get a rematch. Sometimes I think Oliveira is punch-drunk. He continues to challenge Khabib to come out of retirement. He believed that Chandler used his technique to knockout him out. And he was discrediting Poirier's valiant effort on the Oliveira fight while making his own excuses.   

It's a decent card imo.  This one looks like it's easier to parlay with most favorites winning.  I could still see a couple of underdogs who could win tho.  But there might be no pie shitters here.  And if there was one it will def be Holly Holm.

But yeah, this event could be a great one to claw some of the losses back.  We'll see... 

And Santiago Ponzinibbio vs. Michel Pereira could be fight of the night imho.  It could go either way.  I think Welsh is on the Pereira side.

Yeap, I've heard that Oliveira offered Tony help, but Tony is Tony. He will keep training alone his weird Kung Fu. I might even say that Tony has wasted his talent. He could have accepted assistance from one best fighting trainers, but he kept purposefully do everything by himself. I dont know how to explain this. Either he is crazy, or "knows himself his body better", or "watched to many movie and wants to be a champ after training based on books and VHS". Crazy guy.

Well, here in my country the time difference has been always a problem, so I am mostly watching replays or highlights, but I prefer watching replays to highlights because you will not see some juicy parts on the highlights well I really wasn't complaining, but if I could watch a live event, even once, I would gladly want to,

And I think if Tony Ferguson would be Charles Oliveira's training partner Oliveira would surely learn much with the standup game, but because of that Oliveira's eye problem he isn't able to see well but he can surely apply those techniques, and I got to admit that 1st round versus Michael Chandler was the best stand up fight for Tony Ferguson, he is in advantage and keeps pressuring Chandler, that will surely come in handy with Charles Oliveira's solid ground game,


You truly amaze me bbc.reporter when it comes to this kind of thing we truly get along well, and we surely share a common interest, I really like that from you, and I got to admit you got a taste with certain fighting kittens, and right now after seeing Polyana Viana and that they have a picture with Colby Covington, I am not going to lie, I feel envy for Covington that is one crazy chick he got there, I will surely make a pick for her, and also root for her at the same time, that is really one hot chick that you recommend me here, and right now I am really mad with Covington, don't know why, but here is a spicy one for you.

The 2 of our sexy fighting kitten have lost, however. It was to be expected but I thought Andre Lee would be having the better performance between her and Amanda Ribas. I did not bet on either of them, however, on Amanda Ribas' next fight I will certainly bet her even if she is favorite. She appears to be much improved after she lost the fight versus Marina Rodriguez.

We also have another fighting kitten for the next event hehehehe. Polyana Viana, she was the girlfriend of Colby Covington. He might be lying, he hates Brazil hehehehe.

It was stupid timing decision from UFC to have mostly fighters from Europe fighting in that time when most of the people are deep sleeping.
They would have full crowd and earned more money if they had this event somewhere in continental Europe, but even United Kingdom would be better.

I don't know if you guys heard but Charles Oliveira asked Tony Ferguson to have be training partners, and he refused him saying now it's not the time for that.

I was Frustrated with Ion Cutelaba's "The Hulk" he was surely listening in his corner, but both fighters wants a quick fight and a fast victory, but that swing from Cutelaba has missed Spann caught Cutelaba off guard, I never really thought Ryan Spann could catch Ion Cutelaba by surprise, I never really thought that Ryan Spann is this agile to see an opportunity, in winning against Cutelaba,


After watching the highlights as well I have seen something about the Jan Blachowicz VS Alexandar Racic fight and that injury was mostly due to Jan Blachowicz's leg kicks definitely, Jan Blachowicz has that powerful leg kicks, and from that the Leg that has been kicked has not to get injured but it was the knew that is the balance from that kick, and from that kick have twisted Racic knee, and Alexandar Racic has an awkward posture when kicked by Blachowicz, and that gave the opportunity to snap the know of Racic, I really don't know if Jan Blachowicz has a tendency that he is aware that Racic knee would be injured, and if he's planning something like this, well we can not know,

UFC Fight Night: Holm vs. Vieira



Date: May 22, 2022
Main Card: May 22, 2022 2:00 AM EEST

Venue: UFC Apex

Main card (ESPN+)
Women's Bantamweight: Holly Holm vs. Ketlen Vieira            
Welterweight: Santiago Ponzinibbio vs. Michel Pereira            
Middleweight: Duško Todorović vs. Chidi Njokuani   
Women's Strawweight: Polyana Viana vs. Tabatha Ricci            
Middleweight: Eryk Anders vs. Park Jun-yong
Prelims
Heavyweight: Jailton Almeida vs. Parker Porter               
Middleweight: Joseph Holmes vs. Alen Amedovski         
Lightweight: Omar Morales vs. Uroš Medić            
Bantamweight: Vince Morales vs. Jonathan Martinez            
Featherweight: Felipe Colares vs. Chase Hooper            
Women's Strawweight: Sam Hughes vs. Elise Reed

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_Fight_Night:_Holm_vs._Vieira

Just watched some of the highlights of the fights on the weekend. Looked like a good event overall, obviously I haven't watched the full length fights, but from the highlights it looks like there was some decent match ups. Shame about Rakic's leg, I probably had them 1-1 going into that third round. It'll be interesting to see what's exactly happened, and to what extent. We know he's likely strained/ruptured something, but to what degree could be the difference of a minor knock to his plans or a complete rehabilitation. It did look like it was the outside of the knee to me, which isn't the ACL at least. I believe that one on the outer which the name escapes me right now, isn't as bad as long as you don't fully disconnect it. So, who knows could be back in a few weeks or months. Otherwise, if it's a full on tear, I imagine he won't be fighting again this year as you've got to factor in recovery time, as well as getting back to fighting fitness.

Well, that's the first UFC event missed of the year for me. Hopefully, not too many more. I will be away later this year, but other than that I'm hoping to catch every minute of them.