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May 11, 2022, 10:19:18 AM
^  I think it's still gonna be Makhachev vs somebody and the winner gets to face Olivera for the vacant title.  So essentially it's still the same outcome and from Oliveira's pov, it's as if he's still fighting for his own belt.  Which it really is at every championship match.

But all in all, if it were up to me I'd skip Makhachev vs somebody and go straight to Oliveira vs Makhachev.  I think Makhachev is ready.  He's been asking the UFC for it but they won't budge.

If it's Makhachev vs somebody, it has to be against Dariush. Anything besides that makes no sense and he should go directly to Oliveira. If it was up to me (and it's not XD), I wouldn't go for a fight between two of the top contenders (for the sake of the division) but rather do Makhachev vs Oliveira and Chandler vs Dariush. In that way, we get another fight after that with the losers of both fights fighting themselves as well as the winners. Or we go with Makhachev vs Daiush with the winner going to Oliveira and the loser going to Chandler, but then if Dariush loses to Makhachev and wins against Chandler we might not get another Makhachev / Dariush fight right away so I still think the first option is the better one.

Yup that was the UFC's original plan for Makhachev.  And as I already said in another post, they were supposed to fight last Feb but Dariush got an ankle injury during his training camp.  Makhachev was offered Rafael Dos Anjos as a replacement but Makhachev didn't bite.  He would've won that match up and we'd see him vs Oliveira prolly around October.  The UFC is still hell bent to have Makhachev vs Dariush tho so everything still hangs in the balance with Dariush's ankle.  Lol.

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legendary
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May 11, 2022, 04:25:09 AM
It was a good fight while it lasted, we just need someone who can knock out Olivera with one punch, because the guy is definitely chinny, but he has that fallback where he can take his guard, and that's defensive enough for most fighters to either not engage or get choked out due to his superior ground game.

Maybe not chinny, but... In Russian we have say it "does not have a steel rod/bar" meaning a person bends when there are troubles (I dont know how to say it properly in English, maybe there is an idiom for that case). When Oliveira was younger, he used to tap or surrender, when everyone thought he could continue fighting. He gets hurt, and stops fighting, instead ref stops the fight.

Oliveira neglects defence and get punched hard. If he really was chinny, then he would not survive Poirier and Gaethji bombs.
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May 11, 2022, 03:51:02 AM
If it's Makhachev vs somebody, it has to be against Dariush. Anything besides that makes no sense and he should go directly to Oliveira. If it was up to me (and it's not XD), I wouldn't go for a fight between two of the top contenders (for the sake of the division) but rather do Makhachev vs Oliveira and Chandler vs Dariush. In that way, we get another fight after that with the losers of both fights fighting themselves as well as the winners. Or we go with Makhachev vs Daiush with the winner going to Oliveira and the loser going to Chandler, but then if Dariush loses to Makhachev and wins against Chandler we might not get another Makhachev / Dariush fight right away so I still think the first option is the better one.

For now Makachev has a lot of options about his opponent. But to think Makachev vs Charles in the next event I think it's difficult because now Charles is not a lightweight champion. Possibly are the vacant tittle is a fight between Makachev and some fighters from the top contenders. And it looks like Conor McGregor is can be the next opponent of Makachev because fighting against The Notorius its like getting  jackpot.
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May 11, 2022, 03:38:50 AM
That is the weak point of Oliveira. You need to knock him to ass, before Oliveira wakes up and starts doing his job. Sort of a restart. I dont know how many times Oliveiras chin gonna hold, if he continues to use that tactics. Just check his fights. Every single fight he was dazed and knocked to ground, before he switches on "100% champions more on".



I like this picture a lot. It was like an Xmas present for Charles. Next second Charles realizes and pauses for a second, to select how he gonna finish Gaethji. Next seconds, when he was behind Gaethji, he could do kimura, americana, anaconda or simply choke Gaethji. Really a unbelievable present from Justin.

Charles Oliveira really has a good chin and I can not say if it will last for long if he keeps abusing it, just like with the Immortal Korean Zombie, and yeah that fight with Justin Gaethje on the 1st round was a wake-up call on him then Charles remembers that he isn't champion anymore so he beats the hell out of Gaethje, and yeah he doesn't really know if what submission he would use, but he came out with the simplest, but yeah I really love that fight and right now I want a Charles Oliveira VS Islam Makhachev fight.


I don't mind Makhachev vs Dariush.  I would love to see how Makhachev fares vs a grappler.  But yeah..  They were supposed to fight last Feb but Dariush had an ankle injury he got during training.  The last thing I heard was it's still up in the air when Dariush is cleared to fight again.  I guess get McGregor to fight Makhachev?  Lol.  Cheesy

Looking at the match ups, it looks like there are some decent underdogs in there.  And it's a decent event..  Good enough for a fight night.

A Dariush fight will be great for Makhachev, but yeah I don't know where is the guy, but I think Islam Mkhachev is more than ready for the big guns, he keeps on asking Dana White for a title fight and I think it is up in the horizon now that the lightweight belt is vacay a good fight for Islam Makhachev was for the title match it could be Dustin Poirier or Charles Oliveira in my opinion.
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May 11, 2022, 03:36:52 AM
^  I think it's still gonna be Makhachev vs somebody and the winner gets to face Olivera for the vacant title.  So essentially it's still the same outcome and from Oliveira's pov, it's as if he's still fighting for his own belt.  Which it really is at every championship match.

But all in all, if it were up to me I'd skip Makhachev vs somebody and go straight to Oliveira vs Makhachev.  I think Makhachev is ready.  He's been asking the UFC for it but they won't budge.

If it's Makhachev vs somebody, it has to be against Dariush. Anything besides that makes no sense and he should go directly to Oliveira. If it was up to me (and it's not XD), I wouldn't go for a fight between two of the top contenders (for the sake of the division) but rather do Makhachev vs Oliveira and Chandler vs Dariush. In that way, we get another fight after that with the losers of both fights fighting themselves as well as the winners. Or we go with Makhachev vs Daiush with the winner going to Oliveira and the loser going to Chandler, but then if Dariush loses to Makhachev and wins against Chandler we might not get another Makhachev / Dariush fight right away so I still think the first option is the better one.
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May 10, 2022, 10:18:10 PM
The Biggest shame for me is Justin was avoiding the ground at all costs, even when clearly hurting Olivera, at least at first. Time after time I've seen fighters hurt their opponent, and then get carried away, and start trying to choke them or jump on them. When really they just need to ask the ref to stand them up, and go back to work. As soon as I saw it hit the floor, I probably did curse out loud, since I just knew it would be the beginning of the end for Justin.

It was a good fight while it lasted, we just need someone who can knock out Olivera with one punch, because the guy is definitely chinny, but he has that fallback where he can take his guard, and that's defensive enough for most fighters to either not engage or get choked out due to his superior ground game.

That proves that the level of jiu jitsu of Charles Oliveira is on another level. I never see Justin lets his opponent on the ground. Justin is a top level fighter with his grappling and wrestling skills that are at the top level in Lightweight division. But when the game got in the ground. Charles Oliveira was an another kind of monster. I excited for waiting next Charles opponent.

Do you think Conor is acceptable to be Oliveira's next opponent? Because I think the big event at the end of 2022 might be Charles vs Islam
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May 10, 2022, 03:13:34 PM
Looking at the match ups, it looks like there are some decent underdogs in there.  And it's a decent event..  Good enough for a fight night.
I didn't hear any comments from Khabib Nurmagomedov about latest Oliveira vs Justin fight, but I know he is pushing and supporting Islam Makhachev.
Things are going in this direction with vacant belt so I won't be surprised if we soon see Makhachev as Lightweight champion with Khabib in his corner.
I want to see Makhachev vs Oliveira fighting for belt, but maybe Dana has some different ideas to make more money, and Chandler is making money and he did win against Ferguson.

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May 10, 2022, 12:37:42 PM
I like this picture a lot. It was like an Xmas present for Charles. Next second Charles realizes and pauses for a second, to select how he gonna finish Gaethji. Next seconds, when he was behind Gaethji, he could do kimura, americana, anaconda or simply choke Gaethji. Really a unbelievable present from Justin.
The biggest shame for me is Justin was avoiding the ground at all costs, even when clearly hurting Olivera, at least at first. Time after time I've seen fighters hurt their opponent, and then get carried away, and start trying to choke them or jump on them. When really they just need to ask the ref to stand them up, and go back to work. As soon as I saw it hit the floor, I probably did curse out loud, since I just knew it would be the beginning of the end for Justin.

It was a good fight while it lasted, we just need someone who can knock out Olivera with one punch, because the guy is definitely chinny, but he has that fallback where he can take his guard, and that's defensive enough for most fighters to either not engage or get choked out due to his superior ground game.
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May 10, 2022, 10:13:00 AM
I think it's still gonna be Makhachev vs somebody and the winner gets to face Olivera for the vacant title.  So essentially it's still the same outcome and from Oliveira's pov, it's as if he's still fighting for his own belt.  Which it really is at every championship match.

But all in all, if it were up to me I'd skip Makhachev vs somebody and go straight to Oliveira vs Makhachev.  I think Makhachev is ready.  He's been asking the UFC for it but they won't budge.

Beneil Dariush wasnt active for a long time. There is still unsettled business between Dariush and Makhachev. Dariush is on a series of 7 wins. He has identical rights to fight Oliveira as Makhachev. They could fight this summer, it will be enough for both to prepare.

Stats shows, that fighters have usually 1-2 fight per year. Makhachev had his first in February, Olivera had first in May, Dariush last time fought last year, Gaethji got one fight also, Poirier fought in 2021.

Makhachev vs Dariush
Gaethji vs Poirier

Olivera will fight the winner of this pairs.


I don't mind Makhachev vs Dariush.  I would love to see how Makhachev fares vs a grappler.  But yeah..  They were supposed to fight last Feb but Dariush had an ankle injury he got during training.  The last thing I heard was it's still up in the air when Dariush is cleared to fight again.  I guess get McGregor to fight Makhachev?  Lol.  Cheesy

Looking at the match ups, it looks like there are some decent underdogs in there.  And it's a decent event..  Good enough for a fight night.
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May 10, 2022, 08:49:16 AM
That is the weak point of Oliveira. You need to knock him to ass, before Oliveira wakes up and starts doing his job. Sort of a restart. I dont know how many times Oliveiras chin gonna hold, if he continues to use that tactics. Just check his fights. Every single fight he was dazed and knocked to ground, before he switches on "100% champions more on".



I like this picture a lot. It was like an Xmas present for Charles. Next second Charles realizes and pauses for a second, to select how he gonna finish Gaethji. Next seconds, when he was behind Gaethji, he could do kimura, americana, anaconda or simply choke Gaethji. Really a unbelievable present from Justin.
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May 10, 2022, 08:47:46 AM
No surprise for me that Charles Oliveira had such a great performance in main event against Justin Gaethje with that first round submission win.
He was much more motivated after he failed to hit weight and all the noise didn't affect him at all, so I guess Dana will have to find him someone new for Championship belt Smiley
Bad performance by one of my favorite female fighters Rose Namajunas, and I am reading in news that she is saying sorry to her fans now.
As for Tony Ferguson, I think it's just a matter of time when Dana White will kick him out off UFC, but he said he was impressed with his performance until KO, it's just his stupid mind games  Embarrassed

I was awed with the level of a technicality on Charles Oliveira, even though his ground game was not on par with the likes of Khabib NUrmagomedov, it was still enough to make Justin Gaethje panic and give his back on his, I also wish Dana White would give him a fight for the title belt again, he needs to be champion again, but if that fight was between Islam Makhachev then I really will say goodbye for Oliveira to have a chance to be champion again, because Islam Makhachev will surely ruin his day,

I was really upset with the way Rose Namajunas was saying in her post-fight conference, she really doesn't know what she is saying but I think after she watch the whole fight I guess she realize why many fans are so upset about her performance and she tweeted that she is really sorry on the way she did with her match,

Despite being sad that a Tony Ferguson will surely leave the UFC, I think he really needs a quality time with his family and realizing that his age is getting into him, although he really did a great performance on the standing we can not get off the fact that he lost that fight, he doesn't even have a chin that can withstand a kick like that,

^  I think it's still gonna be Makhachev vs somebody and the winner gets to face Olivera for the vacant title.  So essentially it's still the same outcome and from Oliveira's pov, it's as if he's still fighting for his own belt.  Which it really is at every championship match.

But all in all, if it were up to me I'd skip Makhachev vs somebody and go straight to Oliveira vs Makhachev.  I think Makhachev is ready.  He's been asking the UFC for it but they won't budge.

100% I totally agree with you, a Charles Oliveira VS Islam Makhachev will be a lit fight and could allocate even more earnings for the UFC, well even though the UFC will not budge for this fight, I think Islam Makhachev will eventually be knocking into a championship door, he will eventually be getting a title match for the Lightweight division, so 100% I am loving that idea,
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May 10, 2022, 08:21:57 AM
Gaethji vs Poirier
This is the type of fight where you don't really know what's going to happen. The first time around both of them got rocked, and could have easily gone to either fighter on the night. If these guys fought ten times, I imagine it would be pretty 50/50 on who wins on the night. The only issue I see for Justin is I believe Poirer has improved quite a lot since they last fought. Justin seems to found his level, albeit that being a rather high level.

Olivera is a problem though, if any of them want to hold the belt. Not convinced anyone can take that belt off him, and keep it. Although, Justin definitely did hurt him, I got the feeling you've got to knock him out clean, otherwise he'll fall to his back, take guard, and recover without taking any more damage, since the threat of his ground game is too much for most in the division.
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May 10, 2022, 06:39:21 AM
I think it's still gonna be Makhachev vs somebody and the winner gets to face Olivera for the vacant title.  So essentially it's still the same outcome and from Oliveira's pov, it's as if he's still fighting for his own belt.  Which it really is at every championship match.

But all in all, if it were up to me I'd skip Makhachev vs somebody and go straight to Oliveira vs Makhachev.  I think Makhachev is ready.  He's been asking the UFC for it but they won't budge.

Beneil Dariush wasnt active for a long time. There is still unsettled business between Dariush and Makhachev. Dariush is on a series of 7 wins. He has identical rights to fight Oliveira as Makhachev. They could fight this summer, it will be enough for both to prepare.

Stats shows, that fighters have usually 1-2 fight per year. Makhachev had his first in February, Olivera had first in May, Dariush last time fought last year, Gaethji got one fight also, Poirier fought in 2021.

Makhachev vs Dariush
Gaethji vs Poirier

Olivera will fight the winner of this pairs.
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May 09, 2022, 06:48:22 PM
As for Tony Ferguson, I think it's just a matter of time when Dana White will kick him out off UFC, but he said he was impressed with his performance until KO, it's just his stupid mind games  Embarrassed
I'm not so sure Dana would benefit from that, Tony still has a lot of fans that are willing to pay to see him fight, and to be fair to Tony, he did look great up until the knockout. I had him winning the round, Chandler getting that take down might have convinced the judges otherwise, but for me Tony caught Chandler multiple times, and could have easily ended the fight on another day.

I don't like seeing a legend get the beat downs he has had recently, but he loves fighting, I think that much is obvious. I'm not going to rush him out of the sport, just because I think he's getting on. He actually looked very good for a period of that fight.

Plus, it was a bit of a freak knockout, Chandler probably doesn't land that sweetly ever again from a kick like that. Much better kickers than Chandler would have been proud of that one.

But all in all, if it were up to me I'd skip Makhachev vs somebody and go straight to Oliveira vs Makhachev.  I think Makhachev is ready.  He's been asking the UFC for it but they won't budge.
Yeah, probably as ready as he'll ever be. Although, I'm not sure he would beat Olivera. Olivera has converted me to a fan now, I've doubted him a few times, but he keeps delivering so I can't just ignore that. The dude can strike too, which to be honest I didn't think was one of the tools in his belt. However, he proved that against Justin. While still being a little chinny, he survives consistently, and knows that he can take guard, and no one is willing fully going to jump on him.
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May 09, 2022, 04:53:22 PM
^  I think it's still gonna be Makhachev vs somebody and the winner gets to face Olivera for the vacant title.  So essentially it's still the same outcome and from Oliveira's pov, it's as if he's still fighting for his own belt.  Which it really is at every championship match.

But all in all, if it were up to me I'd skip Makhachev vs somebody and go straight to Oliveira vs Makhachev.  I think Makhachev is ready.  He's been asking the UFC for it but they won't budge.
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May 09, 2022, 03:52:35 PM
No surprise for me that Charles Oliveira had such a great performance in main event against Justin Gaethje with that first round submission win.
He was much more motivated after he failed to hit weight and all the noise didn't affect him at all, so I guess Dana will have to find him someone new for Championship belt Smiley
Bad performance by one of my favorite female fighters Rose Namajunas, and I am reading in news that she is saying sorry to her fans now.
As for Tony Ferguson, I think it's just a matter of time when Dana White will kick him out off UFC, but he said he was impressed with his performance until KO, it's just his stupid mind games  Embarrassed
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May 09, 2022, 02:52:31 PM
Anyone saw this? Smiley



This is great art right there, a painting that can hand in the biggest museums and galleries XD No disrespect to both Frankie and Tony, but this is just funny Cheesy I mean, there were KOs such as this before, but it seems we haven't seen much captured on film as of recently so it's fun to have the whole collection.

It is funny alright but I am still sad about what happened to Tony Ferguson, that level of IQ he has showcased against Chandler on the stand-up was really impressive but he hasn't seen that kick from Chandler, because that is really new to Michael Chandler aswell, the level of fighting is evolving and Chandler has just done a 1 step ahead of Ferguson, all we just got to say it good luck to his retirement, and this picture will always be remembered, but not in a good way, in my opinion,

Welsh, gonna like this Cheesy

Adesanya gonna face Cannonier. So far this fight is not in UFC 276 card . And what else we see there? Borz vs Diaz Cheesy
I'm going to be proper nervous for that event. Bloody awesome card on those fights alone though. I actually think Cannonier might have a chance here, he's explosive, and can knock anyone out. Will be a good fight no doubt. Also, Pereira being on that card can't be underestimated, wonder if it'll effect Adesanya if he sees him beat Strickland, who arguably has been on some very good form as of recent, despite me not being a huge fan of it, can't deny his talent.

Saving my money for that event I think. That's got classic all over it. I do believe Diaz is being fed to the dogs with that match up mind you, I expect the odds to be very very wide. 

Jared Cannonier looks powerful against Adesanya but if Israel Adesanya can give a proper parry, evasion, and timing he might have a chance, Alex Pereira was a total bad-ass, and his target was really Israel Adesanya, and back with their kickboxing match he surely defeated Adesanya back there but this is MMA and this is a different thing, but we can not ignore Alex Pereira's explosiveness and effectiveness inside the octagon, Strickland could be in danger here, And I really thought that the Chimaev VS Diaz fight will be on this event aswell, but that was just fake news and I think Dana White just wants to reschedule the fight into another event,
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May 09, 2022, 01:31:08 PM
Welsh, gonna like this Cheesy

Adesanya gonna face Cannonier. So far this fight is not in UFC 276 card . And what else we see there? Borz vs Diaz Cheesy
I'm going to be proper nervous for that event. Bloody awesome card on those fights alone though. I actually think Cannonier might have a chance here, he's explosive, and can knock anyone out. Will be a good fight no doubt. Also, Pereira being on that card can't be underestimated, wonder if it'll effect Adesanya if he sees him beat Strickland, who arguably has been on some very good form as of recent, despite me not being a huge fan of it, can't deny his talent.

Saving my money for that event I think. That's got classic all over it. I do believe Diaz is being fed to the dogs with that match up mind you, I expect the odds to be very very wide. 
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May 09, 2022, 10:31:52 AM
Anyone saw this? Smiley



This is great art right there, a painting that can hand in the biggest museums and galleries XD No disrespect to both Frankie and Tony, but this is just funny Cheesy I mean, there were KOs such as this before, but it seems we haven't seen much captured on film as of recently so it's fun to have the whole collection.
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May 09, 2022, 10:27:00 AM
YuginKadoya, this is just what match makers plan for July 2. I see that wiki has already added fight between Israel Adesanya and Jared Cannonier is expected to headline the event. Also Volkanovski and Holloway fight is in development for this UFC 276. I am sure that Chimaev is ready to fight Nate Diaz in 10 minutes from now, just give him time to put on gloves and shorts. It will be up to Diaz to accept contract.

And we all that UFC is like crypto, everything can be changed in no time Cheesy

I really wish it could change and Dana White suddenly announce that he will put a fight between Chimaev VS Nate because I really like to see another Chimaev fight, that is for sure, but well is still early and we might see the fight in the future, but let's just wait I think Dana White will not pour all good money-making fights in just 1 event, he will definitely be putting it  separately, in my opinion,



And now the upcoming fight this Saturday, May 14, 2022,

UFC Fight Night: Błachowicz vs. Rakić

Location: Las Vegas, Nevada, United States
Venue: UFC APEX



Main Card

Light Heavyweight: Jan Błachowicz   VS   Aleksandar Rakić
Light Heavyweight: Ryan Spann   VS   Ion Cutelaba
Bantamweight: Louis Smolka   VS   Davey Grant
Women's Flyweight: Katlyn Chookagian   VS   Amanda Ribas
Lightweight: Frank Camacho   VS   Manuel Torres
Flyweight: Jake Hadley   VS   Allan Nascimento

Preliminary Card

Women's Flyweight: Viviane Araujo   VS   Andrea Lee
Lightweight: Michael Johnson   VS   Alan Patrick
Women's Strawweight: Virna Jandiroba   VS   Angela Hill
Flyweight: Carlos Candelario   VS   Tatsuro Taira
Middleweight: Nick Maximov   VS   Andre Petroski

CANCELLED BOUTS

Lauren Murphy vs. Miesha Tate
Jamall Emmers vs. Daniel Pineda

All information was from TAPOLOGY
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