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May 09, 2022, 08:44:13 AM
YuginKadoya, this is just what match makers plan for July 2. I see that wiki has already added fight between Israel Adesanya and Jared Cannonier is expected to headline the event. Also Volkanovski and Holloway fight is in development for this UFC 276. I am sure that Chimaev is ready to fight Nate Diaz in 10 minutes from now, just give him time to put on gloves and shorts. It will be up to Diaz to accept contract.

And we all that UFC is like crypto, everything can be changed in no time Cheesy
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May 09, 2022, 08:33:34 AM
Namajunas was the pie shitter of the event.  Was the huge favorite, looked good as a parlay piece, 'sure winner' somewhat but then costs a lot of people a lot of parlay tickets.  I would have won three tickets if not for her.  But who would've known this to happen..?  -_-   I won the top ticket to win back my 20 and break even for the event tho.  So I'm not too sad, I got money for the next one.  Grin

And I think Ferguson is done.  He should be retired and not allowed to fight anymore.  Too tough for his own good.

I totally agree, Namajunas this time is a pie shitter, and that was not a fight at all, even though it is somewhat a copy technique of Israel Adesanya, Adesanya is taking points the scorecard was really somewhat exaggerated, and was really not accurate to the point at first Namajunas thinks she wins the fight it was a delusional Namajunas and I think after watching her performance she has said sorry on Twitter for having a shitty performance, the, once people was booing, was really her, I guess her these two fighters need to change their coach, or I think Rose Namajunas has a phobia with Carla Esparza's takedown back on their 1st fight when she was caught by that rear-naked choke back then, I really want a rematch so that she can change that sloppy fighting that she did, I really know that she can do a better performance than what she did now,

And yeah Ferguson is really done for I am not a fan of Tony Ferguson but I feel somewhat saddened by what happened to him, somewhat he pretty much has the advantage when it comes to stand-up but that blew big time when Chandler decide a strike that even him is not really even pulling, it was a surprise for Tony Ferguson and 100% Ferguson is not aware of it, and Tony Ferguson is wide open at his front chin, that busted him well,


It looked to me like he was trying to throw a left hook to catch a charging Chandler. He was just too close and only a handful will probably have a better reaction time than him.

The Reaction time was not really the issue here I think Tony Ferguson never really expected that kick from Chandler because Michael Chandler isn't really doing that kick this is the first time he throws something like that, that is why Ferguson isn't really aware of it, and Chandler just did this because Tony Ferguson is really good at the stand-up,




No doubt about it. To be fair though, they both started fast. Even if Justin tried to slow it down, he would have taken some serious damage from Charle's assault in that round.

Charles Oliveira is definitely in good shape although the belt was stripped on him he still stays positive and focused the whole fight which goes to show that Charles Oliveira is really something, and because Gaethje doesn't have any defense for the ground battles pretty much the advantage was still for Charles Oliveira,


Welsh, gonna like this Cheesy



Adesanya gonna face Cannonier. So far this fight is not in UFC 276 card . And what else we see there? Borz vs Diaz Cheesy

WOW! what a card, now I am pretty much excited because of this thanks for sharing TopTort777, Israel Adesanya VS Jared Cannonier, Sean Strickland VS Alex Pereira, and Khamzat Chimaev VS Nate Diaz, but I think there is no Chimaev VS Diaz fight for now or to be announced, but if there are that will be a sick event and we can have plenty of fights to watch, that will be insane,
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May 09, 2022, 03:40:35 AM
The result of Chandler vs Ferguson with was obvious. And it showed that it is time for Tony to retire. In his prime, his will just eat this front kick, but yesterday he was knocked out cold. Tony amazed me in first round, but still I did not believe in his victory. With that first round he has showed that Chandler has nothing to do in top5. Besides, where is Chandlers wrestling? Anyone see him using wrestling skills recently? Wtf wrestler goes boxing all the time? If his tactics is to eat punches instead of avoiding damage, ok, let it be, 3-4 more fight and welcome to crystal chin club.

Welsh, gonna like this Cheesy



Adesanya gonna face Cannonier. So far this fight is not in UFC 276 card . And what else we see there? Borz vs Diaz Cheesy
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May 09, 2022, 03:21:21 AM
Namajunas was the pie shitter of the event.  Was the huge favorite, looked good as a parlay piece, 'sure winner' somewhat but then costs a lot of people a lot of parlay tickets.  I would have won three tickets if not for her.  But who would've known this to happen..?  -_-   I won the top ticket to win back my 20 and break even for the event tho.  So I'm not too sad, I got money for the next one.  Grin

This was another women fight, where obvious favorite screwed up. There was few months back identical women mma fight, where underdog with odds 5+ (or 7+) won. Identical happened here. Conclusion - women mma are risky to bet. Women in mma are unstable or unpredictable. Next time someone will have her period or "I am offended" (for no reason) mode and the fight will be fucked up.
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May 09, 2022, 02:11:15 AM
Charles Oliveira may i lost his belt because he missed weight but he is proving himself to be a legendary fighter with his submission skills.

Carla Esparza cemented her place having got the number of Rose Namajunas and how to defeat her whenever they face. I expected Rose Namajunas to run over Carla Esparza before the fight but that was not the case.


I think him missing the weight actually will play a bit in his narrative of being the top dog but not getting the recognition he deserves and being pulled back (even tho he did it himself). He will milk this and the only short-term downside is the loss of his percentage of PPV sales.

Rose seems to be too much in her own head and buying her own hype. I mean, there's nothing wrong with believing in herself or even thinking she's the best, and for the most part, she is, but when it hiders her way of thinking and performance, then we get a Rose we have now. She seems like she's still a kid groomed by Ped Berry....sorry, did I say Ped, gosh, I meant Pat.

It is time for Maurício Rua to hang his gloves, he is well over 40 years and he is not that fast like he used to be and there is nothing for him to prove now.

Oh, there is a long list of fighters that need to hang em up for their own health's sake. This is not me saying they are bad fighters, not at all, but some things do not to be pushed past their expiry date.
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May 08, 2022, 04:28:35 PM
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Tony sees is coming, but he reacted slow in avoiding it. 
It looked to me like he was trying to throw a left hook to catch a charging Chandler. He was just too close and only a handful will probably have a better reaction time than him.

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Justin rushed, and that was his downfall.
No doubt about it. To be fair though, they both started fast. Even if Justin tried to slow it down, he would have taken some serious damage from Charle's assault in that round.
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May 08, 2022, 03:52:11 PM
Namajunas was the pie shitter of the event.  Was the huge favorite, looked good as a parlay piece, 'sure winner' somewhat but then costs a lot of people a lot of parlay tickets.  I would have won three tickets if not for her.  But who would've known this to happen..?  -_-   I won the top ticket to win back my 20 and break even for the event tho.  So I'm not too sad, I got money for the next one.  Grin

And I think Ferguson is done.  He should be retired and not allowed to fight anymore.  Too tough for his own good.
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May 08, 2022, 12:53:54 PM
Rose Namajunas VS Carla Esparza Round 5 LOST
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I had the boxing on at the same time, so I was fortunately able to just watch that instead, but from what I saw that was one of the worst fights I've ever seen. I don't think you could call it a fight. Thought the scorecards were a little wild on it, and to be honest from what I saw, I'm quite glad Rose lost that title. At least Esparza tried to close the distance, and got a few takedowns, while Rose basically shadow boxed the whole fight, and then was surprised why she didn't win. Most anti fighting I've ever seen from a fighter. I don't want to see that rematch, that's for sure.

I just don't understand what the gameplan is, fair enough if she got a few punches off, and then avoided engaging, but she did it right from the off. I honestly had the first two rounds as a 10-10, because nothing actually happened at all, so it was impossible to score in favour of anyone.

I agree with all of your thoughts on the fight, and it was really a horrible one Namajunas might have  Izzy's style of evading Esparza's takedowns and strikes, but she is not aggressive and explosive enough to get the right timing to take the leap like her last takedown was too late it was good but it was really so much lately, and the crowd is really getting annoyed by what is happening, I think their coach is somewhat to blame here I really don't understand their gameplan at all, and their coach is saying that they are winning, what? by doing nothing? this might be absurd but I really want to see Namajunas fight again like what she did with Zhang Weili, and pretty much this is not the Namajunas back then, and on a post-interview, she said that she won the fight she has done every detail there is to win the fight, which is I think delusional, This is not the Rose Namajunas that I know and love, but I think her coach is to blame for this.


Justin rushed, and that was his downfall. Although, Olivera caught Justin multiple times, and hurt him. So, really I don't know how that fight would've gone if Justin didn't dive into that submission. I thought he was doing the right thing for most of the fight, Olivera would take guard as soon as he got hurt, and Justin would ask for him to stand up. That was the game plan, and he needed to not engage on the ground at all, I guess with the excitement of hurting him again he just forgot about the game plan, and ultimately paid the price.

Although, I enjoyed the fight I do wish it went on for a little longer, as it was shaping up to a very entertaining, and competitive fight. Olivera has more power than I thought, and his dangerous ground game, means he can get rocked, and fighters will be reluctant to pounce on him.

Justin Gaethje has some points in the 1st round, but Charles Oliveira has capitalized on It fast, and pretty much Oliveira just needed to push that striking to Gaethje, and when he sees that opening to Gaethje Oliveira have capitalize from that, and Justin Gaethje just panicked and has given his back to Oliveira, pretty much Charles Oliveira needs his belt, not a title match because he is already champion, just give his belt to him, I really think he deserves that title belt, and they just got a fluke on the weight, but a rules a rule, that is why Oliveira needs to follow it,


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May 08, 2022, 08:37:07 AM
Olivera was tagged many times against Gathje, it already feel like he'd going to lose the fight because he falls to the ground twice I believe. He was just lucky that Gathje is not up for a ground fight which is also his downfall here. I thought it would be an arm bar.
Justin rushed, and that was his downfall. Although, Olivera caught Justin multiple times, and hurt him. So, really I don't know how that fight would've gone if Justin didn't dive into that submission. I thought he was doing the right thing for most of the fight, Olivera would take guard as soon as he got hurt, and Justin would ask for him to stand up. That was the game plan, and he needed to not engage on the ground at all, I guess with the excitement of hurting him again he just forgot about the game plan, and ultimately paid the price.

Although, I enjoyed the fight I do wish it went on for a little longer, as it was shaping up to a very entertaining, and competitive fight. Olivera has more power than I thought, and his dangerous ground game, means he can get rocked, and fighters will be reluctant to pounce on him.
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May 08, 2022, 08:23:34 AM
Tony looked very good, up until he didn't. It was a bit of a freak knockout, since Chandler as he said doesn't really train for that. It was almost a soccer kick, and not a front kick. The replays weren't pretty, and Ferguson took a while to wake back up. Hopefully, that doesn't have any lasting effects, how many fights does Ferguson have on his current contract? It's always sad to see the decline of a legend, especially when they get knocked out, and beaten up like has in recent fights.

Although, he did actually have Chandler hurt a few times, even though the round must have been around two minutes, maximum? Its a shame, I honestly thought Chandler was going to run through him, but in the end he was actually getting beaten up until the one take down, and that knockout. 

Yup Totally unexpected for a shorter fighter and a wrestler, Tony wouldn't expect Chandler to do a frontkick. Tony won the first round, if that kick didn't come up out of the blue, it might have been Tony with a UD.

Olivera was tagged many times against Gathje, it already feel like he'd going to lose the fight because he falls to the ground twice I believe. He was just lucky that Gathje is not up for a ground fight which is also his downfall here. I thought it would be an arm bar.
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May 08, 2022, 08:10:34 AM
Rose Namajunas VS Carla Esparza Round 5 LOST

Well I can not say for sure what I am watching but for sure Rose Namajunas was mimicking Israel Adesanya, but without those strikes, I could say he can surely defend from all those takedowns, man I thought that Rose Namajunas would be aggressive here but there was no much striking, but the judges have judged the fight on Octagon control and not with the fighters advantage and striking, but I am not happy with the fight at all, it is like they don't want to fight at all, I really don't enjoy that fight but I will still look forward on what Namajunas would do or who will she fight next, I don't really think Carla Esparza win this fight and who is the champion at all, but I wish a rematch will take place, but not like this fight it was garbage of a fight, Namajunas might remember what happened to their first fight  for always focusing on that takedown defense,
I had the boxing on at the same time, so I was fortunately able to just watch that instead, but from what I saw that was one of the worst fights I've ever seen. I don't think you could call it a fight. Thought the scorecards were a little wild on it, and to be honest from what I saw, I'm quite glad Rose lost that title. At least Esparza tried to close the distance, and got a few takedowns, while Rose basically shadow boxed the whole fight, and then was surprised why she didn't win. Most anti fighting I've ever seen from a fighter. I don't want to see that rematch, that's for sure.

I just don't understand what the gameplan is, fair enough if she got a few punches off, and then avoided engaging, but she did it right from the off. I honestly had the first two rounds as a 10-10, because nothing actually happened at all, so it was impossible to score in favour of anyone.
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May 08, 2022, 07:12:17 AM
Here is the result for my picks on UFC 274


Charles Oliveira VS Justin Gaethje Round 1 WIN

Justin Gaethje said that Oliveira will quit but in this fight, he is the one that quits, I got to Admit Charles Oliveira is following their game plan he has seen some openings to Gaethje, and from that moment, he really caught Justin Gaethje and he was down, that level of stand-up on Oliveira and because of that he caught Gaethje on the ground and of course Justin Gaethje doesn't show any level of Jiu-Jitsu or even struggle or defended on the ground he just literally given his back to Charles Oliveira that Oliveira capitalizes to get that rear-naked choked, Charles Oliveira is a true champion he needs to get back his belt,

Rose Namajunas VS Carla Esparza Round 5 LOST

Well I can not say for sure what I am watching but for sure Rose Namajunas was mimicking Israel Adesanya, but without those strikes, I could say he can surely defend from all those takedowns, man I thought that Rose Namajunas would be aggressive here but there was no much striking, but the judges have judged the fight on Octagon control and not with the fighters advantage and striking, but I am not happy with the fight at all, it is like they don't want to fight at all, I really don't enjoy that fight but I will still look forward on what Namajunas would do or who will she fight next, I don't really think Carla Esparza win this fight and who is the champion at all, but I wish a rematch will take place, but not like this fight it was garbage of a fight, Namajunas might remember what happened to their first fight  for always focusing on that takedown defense,

Michael Chandler VS Tony Ferguson - Round 2 WIN

I hate to say it but I was wrong for saying that Tony Ferguson was weak, he was dominating the 1st round, and all of the stand-up Tony Ferguson was reading Michael Chandler's every move, parrying, countering, and Chandler is just grazing Ferguson, even though Chandler has taken down Ferguson, and Tony was on the ground, many though that Chandler is pulverizing Ferguson, but it just grazing Ferguson, Tony Ferguson has the advantage over Chandler, I got to admit Chandler doesn't have the technicality when it comes to a stand-up fight, but he surely got the power in takedowns, powering and lifting Ferguson, slamming him on the ground, but even though Ferguson is dominating the fight Michael Chandler got an idea a strike that likely he is not using and caught Tony Ferguson by surprise, that Knockout cold Ferguson, and that is a straight leg kick to the chin, a lot of props to Tony Ferguson, he have shown how great of a fighter he really is, and now he is leaving the UFC, and some fans will really miss him but Michael Chandler just shown how he plays an unusual and not really planed and execute it without his opponent knowing it, Ferguson was really surprise from that kick.
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May 08, 2022, 06:01:41 AM
Tony looked very good, up until he didn't. It was a bit of a freak knockout, since Chandler as he said doesn't really train for that. It was almost a soccer kick, and not a front kick. The replays weren't pretty, and Ferguson took a while to wake back up. Hopefully, that doesn't have any lasting effects, how many fights does Ferguson have on his current contract? It's always sad to see the decline of a legend, especially when they get knocked out, and beaten up like has in recent fights.

Although, he did actually have Chandler hurt a few times, even though the round must have been around two minutes, maximum? Its a shame, I honestly thought Chandler was going to run through him, but in the end he was actually getting beaten up until the one take down, and that knockout. 
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May 08, 2022, 04:38:17 AM
Did we comment on Cerrone dropping out of the Lauzon fight? Here is a wild suggestion, maybe Cerrone should hang them up.
Donald Cerrone pulled out of the fight and there is no specific reason said why he pulled out at the last moment but i think he got to have one more farewell fight if he really wants to do that because he was the go to fighter whenever there was a short notice call and he always fought last moment match ups.

It is time for Maurício Rua to hang his gloves, he is well over 40 years and he is not that fast like he used to be and there is nothing for him to prove now.

Michael Chandler just produced the best front kick knockout in MMA history and this is the first time i am seeing someone knocking out Tony Ferguson and he was out cold for a very long time.

I am really impressed with Charles Oliveira and his submission skills is out of the world.

Full credits to Carla Esparza for winning her belt again because Rose Namajunas was afraid to engage and it was a boring fight. From winning the inaugural belt, she was considered as a fluke winner as she was destroyed when she first defended it and now she reclaimed that gold once again, which is awesome and showcase her determination.
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May 08, 2022, 01:50:40 AM
Well, these results were unexpected. Not in a sense of the outcomes per se, but the duration of the Ferg/chandler and the main fight. These were lightning fast, I thought both would go to a decision.  Nothing much to say about those two, besides that it was chaos (not Khaos because that fight was not Cheesy). Even though it was a slow fight, I am glad Esparza took the belt. It seems a repeated pattern with Rose, three wins then a loos, you could almost bet money on it.
I am glad i stayed away from placing any bet in this fight card. There was three split decision fights in the main event and only Charles Oliveira   and Justin Gaethje, Michael Chandler and Tony Ferguson had a conclusive result because as i did not expect the fight to finished faster and if i placed a bet i might have went over and lost the bets.

Charles Oliveira may i lost his belt because he missed weight but he is proving himself to be a legendary fighter with his submission skills.

Carla Esparza cemented her place having got the number of Rose Namajunas and how to defeat her whenever they face. I expected Rose Namajunas to run over Carla Esparza before the fight but that was not the case.
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May 08, 2022, 01:00:53 AM
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Well, these results were unexpected. Not in a sense of the outcomes per se, but the duration of the Ferg/chandler and the main fight. These were lightning fast, I thought both would go to a decision.  Nothing much to say about those two, besides that it was chaos (not Khaos because that fight was not Cheesy). Even though it was a slow fight, I am glad Esparza took the belt. It seems a repeated pattern with Rose, three wins then a loos, you could almost bet money on it.

Did we comment on Cerrone dropping out of the Lauzon fight? Here is a wild suggestion, maybe Cerrone should hang them up.
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May 08, 2022, 12:34:12 AM
I thought Tony had it going after round 1 and will continue to dominate the fight in striking but that front kick was so nasty. That's going to be added to the UFC highlights for front kicks along with Silva's KO of Belfort and Machida's KO of Couture. I feel bad for him but I had to play it back a few more times Grin

I hope his corner does the right thing and tell him his career as a pro fighter is over. He's really taken too much damage.

He is just not the same anymore since Gaethje fight and now its his 4th consecutive loss so ye Dana will unleash him for this.
Silva's KO of Belfort is also what I remember upon seeing it. Its hard to recover that hit, anyone got kicked that way may also fall that cold. Tony sees is coming, but he reacted slow in avoiding it. 

I was waiting for Joe to ask whether Chandler felt the dizzyness he felt during his fight with Will Brooks. But seems fine.
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May 08, 2022, 12:01:56 AM
I thought Tony had it going after round 1 and will continue to dominate the fight in striking but that front kick was so nasty. That's going to be added to the UFC highlights for front kicks along with Silva's KO of Belfort and Machida's KO of Couture. I feel bad for him but I had to play it back a few more times Grin

I hope his corner does the right thing and tell him his career as a pro fighter is over. He's really taken too much damage.
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May 07, 2022, 06:58:43 PM
I've got a bone to pick with the UFC refs, I can't remember who was reffing now, probably because I was so annoyed. So, my predictions were going well right, until the Kleydson Rodrigues fight. However, his opponent grabbed the fence three separate times, and even maintained top position because of it. It wasn't punished once. So, whether or not Kleydson Rodrigues lost that fight overall, doesn't matter. When do we start punishing blatant fence grabs, especially when they actually directly benefit the fighter?

I feel there should be a zero tolerance if it results in them bettering their position or maintaining it. One point deduction straight away. I'm more annoyed because it basically ruined my accumulator for the night, but also am annoyed that nothing was done, when it was clear. It wasn't like the ref didn't see it, he bloody warned him all three times! CJ should have had the points deducted at least once, but risk it three times across multiple rounds.
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May 07, 2022, 12:59:49 PM
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Is that the champion mindset Oliveira has been talking about? XD Anyway, I don't think this makes Olive's will to fight and win, less, I would reckon it actually fires him up even more as he wants to prove himself and say that this was more of an error of judgment than an issue of him being the champion in the first place. As for Justin, nothing changes for him, he still can win it the same as he could have won it earlier.
It should be some sort of miscalculation from his team that he missed the weight, he informed through social media two days before the weigh ins that he is doing fine with his weight cut and then to get time to miss weight the first time and still was not able to reduce half a pound is some sort of misunderstanding or the scale he was weighing in the hotel room was wrong.

Unfortunate that he will be missing the belt before getting into the fight.
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