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Can anyone remember what the scores were for the main event? I felt like it was fairly close by the judges, right?

Quote from: tokeweed on October 11, 2021, 10:09:16 AM

If you guys think last weekend’s card was full of unknowns and low level fighters then the next event is gonna be a rough one. Lol. Cheesy

Not just unknowns, but I just thought the match ups were pretty bad. However, that did actually make for some entertaining KO's. I'll be honest, I slightly complained about it being a rather lackluster event, and I did get to watch it because it was on at a totally different time to the boxing, and I thought it was brilliant. Well, probably not a night I'll remember for long, but it was much better than I was expecting.

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It's not easy when you are MMA fighter because you need to control your anger and it's not always easy like in case with Jon Jones, and now with Chuck Liddell who got arrested and jailed on domestic violence charge.
If both of them are so tough guys why are they always attacking their wifes like this and not someone who is more their size?
https://www.tmz.com/2021/10/11/chuck-liddell-arrested-domestic-violence/

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If you guys think last weekend’s card was full of unknowns and low level fighters then the next event is gonna be a rough one. Lol. Cheesy

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Quote from: notblox1 on October 10, 2021, 01:56:17 PM

Marina Rodriguez made a deserved win and she is calling out for Joanna Jedrzejczyk for her inactivity, and she is hoping to get next title fight.
You can check out and watch all UFC Vegas 39 post-fight Press Conference:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uw1S3udh3IE

It appears that Marina Rodriguez was challenging the Boogeywoman since her split decision victory versus Michelle Waterson. However, would Joanna accept this fight? I reckon Joanna would not risk her name to fight a fighter who is there to build on her name and reputation hehehe.

At UFC Vegas 26, Marina Rodriguez was able to defeat the #9-ranked Michelle Waterson via unanimous decision in a hard-fought battle. Now that Rodriguez has won the first main event of her UFC career, she is looking to challenge the woman who has had her hand raised in more strawweight main events than anyone, that, of course being the one and only Joanna Jędrzejczyk.

Source https://www.mmanews.com/2021/05/marina-rodriguez-calls-out-the-boogeywoman-joanna-jedrzejczyk/

Rodriguez should be careful what she wishes for. JJ is an elite Muay Thai martial artist with lots of experience in the octagon. It’s a huge jump between Dern to JJ. Intruiging match up tho.

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Quote from: tokeweed on October 10, 2021, 10:07:21 AM

^ Dern should be diving for single legs like what most wrestlers do. Esperza did it with great success and eeked out a split decision vs Rodriguez. But man, Dern is elite on the ground. If she goes for TD’s instead of body locks, trips and hip throws, she’d be almost a complete fighter.

My other two bets lost but I’m still happy. Both were really close... It showed that the lines were way off in those two matches.

Mackenzie Dern really is a monster on the ground just like what I predicted, but yes, even with insane locks Marina Rodriguez just keeps on getting free from it, Dern should focus more on locking and punching Rodriguez instead,

Quote from: bittraffic on October 10, 2021, 01:59:23 PM

Yup Congratulations to Marina Rodriguez. Out of 3, this is the only I've won.
2nd round looks very erotic when Dern uses her feet to trap Marina's arm, Dern almost had her when she mounted, it's damn chilling I almost didn't breathe that whole ground fight. And then Dern did it again on the 4th round. Rodriguez only learns to keep the distance in the 5th round but she tough to win this match.

I like it when they are erotic on the ground, Cool

but yes BJJ sure has its use, but it lacks intensity Marina Rodriguez just keeps on getting free from Dern's grip, but I really like Dern's performance, it is just that Rodriguez is really too tough to handle and is really too good at striking in keeping the count on his scores.

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Quote from: notblox1 on October 10, 2021, 01:56:17 PM

Marina Rodriguez made a deserved win and she is calling out for Joanna Jedrzejczyk for her inactivity, and she is hoping to get next title fight.
You can check out and watch all UFC Vegas 39 post-fight Press Conference:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uw1S3udh3IE

It appears that Marina Rodriguez was challenging the Boogeywoman since her split decision victory versus Michelle Waterson. However, would Joanna accept this fight? I reckon Joanna would not risk her name to fight a fighter who is there to build on her name and reputation hehehe.

At UFC Vegas 26, Marina Rodriguez was able to defeat the #9-ranked Michelle Waterson via unanimous decision in a hard-fought battle. Now that Rodriguez has won the first main event of her UFC career, she is looking to challenge the woman who has had her hand raised in more strawweight main events than anyone, that, of course being the one and only Joanna Jędrzejczyk.

Source https://www.mmanews.com/2021/05/marina-rodriguez-calls-out-the-boogeywoman-joanna-jedrzejczyk/

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Quote from: tokeweed on October 10, 2021, 10:07:21 AM

Dern should be diving for single legs like what most wrestlers do. Esperza did it with great success and eeked out a split decision vs Rodriguez. But man, Dern is elite on the ground. If she goes for TD’s instead of body locks, trips and hip throws, she’d be almost a complete fighter.

My other two bets lost but I’m still happy. Both were really close... It showed that the lines were way off in those two matches.

First of all congrats to Maria Rodriguez for winning the fight. I somewhat thought what Dern might win if she's able to ground Marina but that has not been the case. But it was a fun fight to see, a striker vs a submission player is always an exciting match. I saw the stats of the match and Dern lost many points in strikes, she completed 80 out of 209 ones where Marina did 148 out of 284 ones and that made about 15 points difference between them. Marina is also ahead way miles in the significant strike points.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on October 10, 2021, 04:37:27 AM

Quote from: tokeweed on October 09, 2021, 10:18:36 AM

^ Esparza is a way better wrestler than Dern. Yes Dern is a grappler but she’s mostly BJJ. Dern has to take Rodriguez first before she can do her thing... Which I admit, if Dern does take Rodriguez down, it’s over. But if she doesn’t, watch Rodriguez tee off on Dern’s face. And I think the latter is more likely.

My bets thus far are Rodriguez, Elliott and Corales. All dogs, follow at your own risk. I’m more a degenerate than a sharp.

And last call for jeremypwr’s Multi Master.

UFC Vegas 39 Multi Master
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sportsbetio-ufc-vegas-39-10921-new-rules-5364124

I really think there are different techniques with Wrestling and Brazilian jiu-jitsu and Wrestling is more intense than BJJ mostly if you are wrestling more your cardio will likely be training as well, because of its intensity, but Submission mostly comes from BJJ I think effectivity wise, the goal is to submit your opponent and BJJ can submit your opponent in both top and bottom position, but effectiveness will sure vary and may always depend on the situation of the fight.

Well, Congratulations to Marina Rodriguez and to all that pick and bet for her, most of the time Dern really wants to throw Rodriguez to the ground but Marina Rodriguez shows great defense with Dern's takedown throw, the 2nd round was an intense round for Marina Rodriguez while Dern just caught Rodriguez arm, Mackenzie Dern's just really dominates the ground very well it just time was really not in favor with Dern, but the 3rd round was really around for Rodriguez, a really great match for both fighters, even though I think that Dern really did well, the score was for the judges to decides.

Yup Congratulations to Marina Rodriguez. Out of 3, this is the only I've won.
2nd round looks very erotic when Dern uses her feet to trap Marina's arm, Dern almost had her when she mounted, it's damn chilling I almost didn't breathe that whole ground fight. And then Dern did it again on the 4th round. Rodriguez only learns to keep the distance in the 5th round but she tough to win this match.

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Marina Rodriguez made a deserved win and she is calling out for Joanna Jedrzejczyk for her inactivity, and she is hoping to get next title fight.
You can check out and watch all UFC Vegas 39 post-fight Press Conference:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uw1S3udh3IE

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^ Dern should be diving for single legs like what most wrestlers do. Esperza did it with great success and eeked out a split decision vs Rodriguez. But man, Dern is elite on the ground. If she goes for TD’s instead of body locks, trips and hip throws, she’d be almost a complete fighter.

My other two bets lost but I’m still happy. Both were really close... It showed that the lines were way off in those two matches.

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Quote from: tokeweed on October 09, 2021, 10:18:36 AM

^ Esparza is a way better wrestler than Dern. Yes Dern is a grappler but she’s mostly BJJ. Dern has to take Rodriguez first before she can do her thing... Which I admit, if Dern does take Rodriguez down, it’s over. But if she doesn’t, watch Rodriguez tee off on Dern’s face. And I think the latter is more likely.

My bets thus far are Rodriguez, Elliott and Corales. All dogs, follow at your own risk. I’m more a degenerate than a sharp.

And last call for jeremypwr’s Multi Master.

UFC Vegas 39 Multi Master
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sportsbetio-ufc-vegas-39-10921-new-rules-5364124

I really think there are different techniques with Wrestling and Brazilian jiu-jitsu and Wrestling is more intense than BJJ mostly if you are wrestling more your cardio will likely be training as well, because of its intensity, but Submission mostly comes from BJJ I think effectivity wise, the goal is to submit your opponent and BJJ can submit your opponent in both top and bottom position, but effectiveness will sure vary and may always depend on the situation of the fight.

Well, Congratulations to Marina Rodriguez and to all that pick and bet for her, most of the time Dern really wants to throw Rodriguez to the ground but Marina Rodriguez shows great defense with Dern's takedown throw, the 2nd round was an intense round for Marina Rodriguez while Dern just caught Rodriguez arm, Mackenzie Dern's just really dominates the ground very well it just time was really not in favor with Dern, but the 3rd round was really around for Rodriguez, a really great match for both fighters, even though I think that Dern really did well, the score was for the judges to decides.

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Here are the results of this fight card, nothing much to talk in the main card as i am yet to watch all the fights yet.

Source: Wiki.

Quote from: notblox1 on October 09, 2021, 03:56:40 PM

Fights started early and I just fisnihed watching heavyweight fight, Alexander Romanov was brutally dominating against Jared Vanderaa, and he still have perfect record, that could be serious competition for the top of HW division.
I expect to see him climbing the UFC rankings and his next fight should be against much stronger fighter.

Alexander Romanov looked great against Jared Vanderaa as he was able to impose his wrestling game and was able to take him down and control him on the ground and hopefully he will fight more often and climb the ranks and want to see him fight the top fighters to see his level.

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Fights started early and I just fisnihed watching heavyweight fight, Alexander Romanov was brutally dominating against Jared Vanderaa, and he still have perfect record, that could be serious competition for the top of HW division.
I expect to see him climbing the UFC rankings and his next fight should be against much stronger fighter.

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My picks for the event are Alexander Romanov, Gutierrez, Hawes, Sabina Mazo, Matheus Nicolau and finally picking Mackenzie Dern.

The fight card already started and i missed the early fights, even though i am not interested in the entire card as i am waiting for the Wilder and Fury card and so is the reason UFC also made a lackluster card.

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The only way Dern will win this is if she can get on top of Rodriguez early in the round. I do not understand why Rodriguez has the odds that she does. Dern is a good fighter but I think Rodriguez beats her on the ground and standing up. Dern is not someone who likes to have a bloody fight and Rodriguez lives for that. Dern is going to be very uncomfortable and get knocked out tonight. I am going to place a bet on Rodriguez in round 2 by tko.

Since majority is backing Marina Rodriguez to win the fight, i am going to pick Mackenzie Dern to win the fight simply because of her submission skills, if she could improve her wrestling game then she is a threat in the division but she is still dangerous with her ground game and she can submit when opportunity arises and if she is able to take the fight to the ground somehow she can clinch that victory.

If Mackenzie Dern wins this fight she might get the title opportunity but she needs to improve her wrestling skills.

I think Marina Rodriguez has enough skill to avoid the submission. Dern might be able to put enough pressure and danger that she keeps Marina Rodriguez to the ground but I do not see her finishing her with a submission. I think it will be a knock out by Marina Rodriguez or Dern might be able to take her down enough to get a decision win I do not see Dern finishing this fight. Going the distance might be a good bet but I am going for the TKO by Marina. I think most people betting on Mackenzie are swayed by her good looks instead of her fighting ability in this fight. I say Marina Rodriguez wins this fight easily and will avoid the take downs of Mackenzie Dern and then Dern will find it very hard to survive with Marina Rodriguez throwing big punches at her.

I think I will be a neutral supporter in this match and will just enjoy the match. I personally feel that Marina has some very good striking skills compared to dern, but if think that Dern will excel in the ground fight. If Dern can get Marina to the ground and get her submission early as possible, Dern will have the match but she has to be very cautious while standing because as Marina is a very good striker, Dern might get KO'ed. Who do you guys think will win the match?

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Quote from: ene1980 on October 09, 2021, 11:13:16 AM

Quote from: Macadonian on October 09, 2021, 10:41:53 AM

The only way Dern will win this is if she can get on top of Rodriguez early in the round. I do not understand why Rodriguez has the odds that she does. Dern is a good fighter but I think Rodriguez beats her on the ground and standing up. Dern is not someone who likes to have a bloody fight and Rodriguez lives for that. Dern is going to be very uncomfortable and get knocked out tonight. I am going to place a bet on Rodriguez in round 2 by tko.

Since majority is backing Marina Rodriguez to win the fight, i am going to pick Mackenzie Dern to win the fight simply because of her submission skills, if she could improve her wrestling game then she is a threat in the division but she is still dangerous with her ground game and she can submit when opportunity arises and if she is able to take the fight to the ground somehow she can clinch that victory.

If Mackenzie Dern wins this fight she might get the title opportunity but she needs to improve her wrestling skills.

I think Marina Rodriguez has enough skill to avoid the submission. Dern might be able to put enough pressure and danger that she keeps Marina Rodriguez to the ground but I do not see her finishing her with a submission. I think it will be a knock out by Marina Rodriguez or Dern might be able to take her down enough to get a decision win I do not see Dern finishing this fight. Going the distance might be a good bet but I am going for the TKO by Marina. I think most people betting on Mackenzie are swayed by her good looks instead of her fighting ability in this fight. I say Marina Rodriguez wins this fight easily and will avoid the take downs of Mackenzie Dern and then Dern will find it very hard to survive with Marina Rodriguez throwing big punches at her.

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Quote from: Macadonian on October 09, 2021, 10:41:53 AM

The only way Dern will win this is if she can get on top of Rodriguez early in the round. I do not understand why Rodriguez has the odds that she does. Dern is a good fighter but I think Rodriguez beats her on the ground and standing up. Dern is not someone who likes to have a bloody fight and Rodriguez lives for that. Dern is going to be very uncomfortable and get knocked out tonight. I am going to place a bet on Rodriguez in round 2 by tko.

Since majority is backing Marina Rodriguez to win the fight, i am going to pick Mackenzie Dern to win the fight simply because of her submission skills, if she could improve her wrestling game then she is a threat in the division but she is still dangerous with her ground game and she can submit when opportunity arises and if she is able to take the fight to the ground somehow she can clinch that victory.

If Mackenzie Dern wins this fight she might get the title opportunity but she needs to improve her wrestling skills.

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The only way Dern will win this is if she can get on top of Rodriguez early in the round. I do not understand why Rodriguez has the odds that she does. Dern is a good fighter but I think Rodriguez beats her on the ground and standing up. Dern is not someone who likes to have a bloody fight and Rodriguez lives for that. Dern is going to be very uncomfortable and get knocked out tonight. I am going to place a bet on Rodriguez in round 2 by tko.

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^ Esparza is a way better wrestler than Dern. Yes Dern is a grappler but she’s mostly BJJ. Dern has to take Rodriguez first before she can do her thing... Which I admit, if Dern does take Rodriguez down, it’s over. But if she doesn’t, watch Rodriguez tee off on Dern’s face. And I think the latter is more likely.

My bets thus far are Rodriguez, Elliott and Corales. All dogs, follow at your own risk. I’m more a degenerate than a sharp.

And last call for jeremypwr’s Multi Master.

UFC Vegas 39 Multi Master
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sportsbetio-ufc-vegas-39-10921-new-rules-5364124

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Quote from: TheNineClub on October 09, 2021, 04:02:24 AM

Quote from: YuginKadoya on October 08, 2021, 03:55:42 PM

I would like to think that it will happen and my bet will surely win, but if Marina Rodriguez would have a good takedown defense then she might win this as well, I haven't taken the possibility that Marina Rodriguez can also win, but I really like a fighter with a style like Dern.

Yeah, this is a tough one to call. All fights start standing up, and on paper Rodriguez is much more skillful in stand up than Dern is, however, her takedown defense comes into question as she hasn't had more than 6 years of some type of grappling training, and with Dern being an ADCC veteran where there is an emphasis on wrestling, I could see her being able to take it to the ground, From there on its game over for Rodriguez. But thats all MMA mathz and I wouldn't bet my life on it. The most telling thing about Rodriguez is her fight with Carla Esparza.

Well, her fight with Esparza was really a wake-up call for her to train her takedown defense more, so I really don't know if Marina Rodriguez is eventually hardened that her defense with takedowns or not because if she really didn't her only way to win is to keep the distance between them and hope to aim her strikes accurately in taking down Dern's, she could try Izzy's method with fighters that are good at wrestling, Rodriguez really had a hard time and the pressure from Esparza have taken her by surprise, I would still go with Mckenzie Dern's to win against Rodriguez.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on October 08, 2021, 03:55:42 PM

I would like to think that it will happen and my bet will surely win, but if Marina Rodriguez would have a good takedown defense then she might win this as well, I haven't taken the possibility that Marina Rodriguez can also win, but I really like a fighter with a style like Dern.

Yeah, this is a tough one to call. All fights start standing up, and on paper Rodriguez is much more skillful in stand up than Dern is, however, her takedown defense comes into question as she hasn't had more than 6 years of some type of grappling training, and with Dern being an ADCC veteran where there is an emphasis on wrestling, I could see her being able to take it to the ground, From there on its game over for Rodriguez. But thats all MMA mathz and I wouldn't bet my life on it. The most telling thing about Rodriguez is her fight with Carla Esparza.

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