Topic: The UFC Info and Prediction Thread - page 364. (Read 97129 times)

Doesn't really matter who made you famous, just the fact that you're famous in terms of boxing. In boxing, there's much less well known fighters earning more than the heavyweight champion of the UFC. Also, there's also Jake Paul, although that's probably not comparable because he's well known, and a big name in Youtube. Though, there's definitely lesser known boxers making more than Ngannou.

He would walk into a fight with Fury if he wanted, which would mean big bucks for him. Even if he only got 20 percent of the purse he would be better off.

By the way, why everybody think thank Ngannou would earn millions in boxing? Before ufc created him a star, he was nobody. Without ufc promotion, would the world know that there is a boxer in France that knock people out cold? Would someone offer him a million cheque for the fight? He would need first ti go through number of fights, before he gets a real opponent and get paid huge.

Right now, if wants all that millions and boxing, why shouldnt he give belt to Gane and leave? If there are underwater stones in his contract, wait till he is completele free and whoever he want.

I understand White position. Ufc invested in Ngannou promotion, and now he or his manager just come and ask for more $. Now they want to get maximum from that investment.

Well, I will not be saying such things if it isn't a fact and Dana White should research more and look at the situations of most fighters why they want higher pay, and why some fighters are just so happy to get a fight of the night extra money because think the amount is unreasonable, but lifetime damage can surely be sustained by fighters not only with boxing but here in the UFC aswell, we can not run from the facts and I think there will be a time that Dana could Realize what he is doing,

I don't know if that contract is true, but definitely, we should see what is inside that contract just to be sure, and I think a higher possibility that it was there in the contract is huge, UFC management can sure put something like that, and to secure that the fighter of UFC would just stay fighting for UFC, I think that is why retired fighters are a free fighter, and most UFC fighters would fight in different combat sports in their age that is not qualified anymore, and not in their prime.


Well, just like what I said his rules we can not do something about it, this is his UFC, a very popular one right now, that is why Francis Ngannou has wakened up and pursued other careers but that contract had bound him in not doing what he like, maybe Ngannou have spoken this thing to Dana White and White, doesn't like the sound and that kind of idea, that is why he is very angry with Francis Ngannou when it won the UFC 270.

Boxers do make alot more than these other entertainment associations due to the fact of them winning a "purse".
And this is not what Dana White has available to his fighters in the organization.
I believe he planned it this way from the very start when he became president back in 2001 and basically took it over from Art Davie and Rorion Gracie.
So he makes all the rules and if you don't like he tells them to **** off just like he had with Francis when he didn't put the belt on him after the fight nor attend the post fight press conference.

I think that UFC really needs to give their fighters a raise. As you have mentioned we can see that the Paul brothers who are in my opinion not that good of boxers and yet they are getting a huge amount of money from boxing.

Now, obviously, there are a lot of marketing stunts that goes into this way. while UFC cannot do these things or promote a fight in a way that the YouTubers do, but UFC have their own way to promote fights.

UFC fighters are showing pure skills and beating each other up but getting the amount of money which is so low compared to the YouTubers who think life is a joke and everything is fun.
I am not saying that they don't have skills but I certainly am saying that they don't have the skills that the UFC fighters have. And yet they are the ones making millions.

And watching Ngannou’s post fight press conference, I feel like it’s not just about the money or lack of it.  I think Ngannou is also trying to say that the UFC isn’t really doing everything to raise his stock.  Not like how they do Nate Diaz or Masvidal at least.  I mean yeah both those guys are way more popular than Ngannou but that’s also exactly why he isn’t that popular.  The UFC has to spend more money behind the marketing machine to get his name out there.

But maybe we just don’t know the whole story...

Jake did not open eyes. It was well knows fact boxers earn a lot. By looking on their lifestyle, it was clear that top boxers swim in money. When I was a kid a had a poster of Mike Tyson with white tiger and a luxury car They did not earn millions, but money that time had different buying power. Hundred thousand in 90s was like several millions today. But what Jake did, he showed mma fighters that they can earn more in a fight against blogger, instead of training for years, competing for years and being a champion. He showed that money is more valuable than being a champion or have a reputation.

Uncle Dana is not gonna pay his female fighters more money before paying the men. So what if the female fighters have only fans; so do some of the men! UFC is all about the extra income you make on the side through endorsements and partnerships, just like with most sports stars.
It's true Jake Paul opened the eyes to the casual viewer about the pay of fighters, some making as little as 12g a night, Dana could give more money, or increase the pay out for fight of the night so the fights will be more brutal. But really the fighters need to make endorsement and partnerships to make as much money as they can. Once they retire they will have to continue with that lifestyle anyway.

This! I mean, If women or men want to grab some additional income, or do it because they feel free with their bodies, then more power to them. But the pay needs to be adequate when they are entering the octagon. It's just sad when the release fighters pay.


But until we get more high-profile fighters associated with it, nothing will come of it, unfortunately. And it seems things have quieted down a bit as no one is talking about it that much.

Is that twitter? Nobody cares abut twitter followers other than SJWs. Ngannou has 3.6 million on Insta compared to 3 million for Masvidal. They're all dwarfed by McGregor's 43.8 though.


It's not about that. 500-600k for a champion fighter of Ngannou's calibre is nothing and we're not saying they should be getting paid the same as boxers, but when they can make millions in boxing there's bound to be an exodus to that sport. From what I understand Ngannou  just wants the option to be able to fight in boxing but current UFC contracts keep them locked in so they can't do anything outside of it and I think those sort of restrictive terms are going to shoot the UFC in the foot, because they just won't re-sign and go over to boxing. At the moment fighters like The Paul brothers are making more money than world champs like Francis which they're obviously going to take as an insult. UFC fighters should be paid more, but we're not saying they should be getting the big bucks from boxing mega fights. Up their pay a little, boost the winning bonuses a bit and let the bigger fighters have cross-promo matches in boxing and UFC can take their cut of that as well otherwise champs like Ngannou won't be fighting in the UFC anymore which will be a real shame. 

UFC fighters can unite against UFC and put on the line their contracts, when asking about raise. In NHL 2004-2005 season players were also not satisfied with payments. Second NHL lockout was in 2012-2013. Two seasons lost… UFC fighters can do the same. If they will be fired, other organizations will fight for accepting them.


You are saying correct words. Ice hockey is more popular. Same is with boxing and UFC. You have mentioned safety. Again, 100% hit. Boxing is more dangerous than MMA. Injuries can be cured, but no one can cure the damage punch does to the brain. Also, ever heart that any MMA fighter died or get crippled during or in a short time after the fight? Boxing has hundred of such cases.

Found new info about situation with Ngannou. There is a clause in his contract, that does not allow him to compete in combat sport one year after his UFC contract ends. He is 35, becoming a boxing star at 37 is hard. (this news can be fake)

Dana should begin paying his women fighters more money or we might witness much of them open an onlyfans.com account for extra income hehehe. Did everyone watch Kay Hansen during UFC 270? She has an onlyfans.com account.

https://onlyfans.com/kayhansenmma

There are some of those pictures in Reddit.

https://www.reddit.com/r/KayHansenNSFW/

Jessica Andrade also has an account in onlyfans.com, however, I will not share this because it might cause very scary nightmares hehehehe.

in my opinion, Ice Hockey is more popular than Field Hockey, you can not compare the two, because mainly not all countries have a sport of field hockey mainly popularized in the USA ice hockey is very well-known and popular, and I myself really don't know that there is a field hockey game if you would not spout it here, I don't know if Field Hockey is the original sports and ice hockey just derived from field hockey or vice versa, but I think people like me would notice ice hockey more than field hockey, and from that I think we can conclude that there are many sponsors for ice hockey than with field hockey,

and again, we can not compare UFC and boxing and with their payments anyway, but I am just saying that UFC fighters should be compensated by the way sports could risk one's lives or involve the safety of someone should take a  huge profit out of it, or just give him all the profit that he earned or all-expense-paid should not be taken out on a fighters payment but should be on the management side, or if not pay a large amount to the fighter,

But anyway Dana White is the one controlling it so it is his decision, and there are no legal actions regarding this kind of treatment to the fighters,

The difference for me is the whole world is hearing about it now. You're quite right that this has been going on a long time, since fighters pay was probably even less than it's today. However, fighters are starting to be heard outside of the UFC, and people are taking notice. If that hurts the brand, then Dana will have no choice, but to change the way he pays fighters. Has others have rightly pointed out, he probably can't change it drastically for all the fighters on the roster, but I imagine he will have to up the wages for the more influential fighters, and definitely for the champions, and contenders.

UFC fighter pay has been discussed over the past 10 years, since Tito Ortiz and Dana White had their falling out.

It has a long history, which many are not aware of.

Leslie Smith in the past pushed project spearhead in an effort to unionize the UFC. Jon Fitch and John S. Nash pushed the Ali Act. Cung Le and Nate Quarry were also involved.

This goes back more than 5 years.

Will the current campaign on UFC fighter pay be any more successful than past attempts?

Somehow I don't think it will. Those who of us who have been around for awhile know why.

A bit underpaid is a bit of an understatement. This has been an issue for some time now but has been swept under the rug at first because it was generally understood that MMA wasn't generating enough to pay everybody as they should. Well, everybody but the UFC brass that is. However, as things changed financially for the UFC, talks about a union have been risen, but...well...fighters are not unionizing. Efforts have been made but fighters just do not want to get on the bad side of the UFC by grouping into a union. I mean, this is an oversimplification of the issue, but you get the gist.

I think it all comes down to who's earning the most money for the sport/sports owner/team etc.  I have heard that UFC fighters are a bit underpaid but I am not very well versed on the subject so not sure if there's any merit to that or not.  I am curious if the UFC has some sort of "players union" type deal like other sports do (baseball/basketball/NFL etc) where they can help fight for the fighters (no pun intended) to receive more fair contracts.

Oh...  Lol.  No way I’m paying .25 ETH for an Ngannou NFT.  I mean compared to legends like Khabib, Anderson Silva, GSP or even Royce Gracie, who is Ngannou?  Name value is low.  I would think Brock Lesnar has higher name value than him due to a larger fan base outside of MMA.  I think Nate Diaz would hold more value as an NFT.

And I think it’s a mistake that the UFC chose to have their NFT’s in a relatively unknown blockchain.  They’d be better off in Ethereum or in one of the L2’s.  I mean who would bridge coins to Flow just to get those NFT’s.

People who compare fighters payment in boxing and UFC and say that UFC fighters deserves to earn more, what could you say about payment in ice hockey and field hockey? Both sports require puck, equipment and stick. Top NHL players earn 10+ millions per season. Field hockey players get around 100k. Or compare soccer player payments with Australian football payments. Unfair again?

Just in, the Ngannou VS Gane fight, that Francis Ngannou has a knee injury when he fights Ciryl Gane, that is why he has those knee supports to cover the injured knee so basically, Francis Ngannou is fighting with 1 leg, if this is true then Ciryl Gane's has a handicap when he fought Ngannou, and that is why the fight ends up in a Decision, and Ngannou on the third round have decided to go on with the takedowns and wrestling his way to win, which is effective but at the same time, this time luck is on his side, what do you guys think?


For me, we can not compare them to Conor McGregor, and with that kind of level of hype, I really think that Sean O'Malley has no shine anymore when Marlon Vera Destroy's his ego, and I think that if they would fight again Marlon Vera will definitely going to win again, in my opinion, and with Aljamain Sterling keeps on dodging another fight, that was the rumors says, the UFC should strip him of the Bantamweight Champion, and give it to the most qualified one, for me Petr Yan or Marlon Vera.