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Quote from: tokeweed on February 07, 2022, 10:42:53 AM

^ I don’t think there lots of action going to Whitaker. If there was, we’d see line movement going Whitaker’s way and make the odds a little closer. The lines are still very wide imo. And the people who are betting on Whitaker are doing it for line value. There’s a higher chance he could win in a rematch than what the line indicates. Dunno... It just feels that way for me. Lol. ‘This is not financial advice.’. Cheesy

Anyway I think Whitaker has improved a lot since his loss vs Adesanya. Can’t wait to see him back in there.

So, you are betting on Whitaker then?

I can perfectly understand you because betting on the underdog is what I like to do too. It's just this time I think Whitaker has no chance at all. But that's my personal opinion, ‘This is not financial advice.’ either.

Quote from: TopTort777 on February 08, 2022, 06:02:34 AM

There are lots of fight worth watching on UFC 271.

Adesanya vs Whittaker. Will anime fan be able to beat Whittaker once again? I guess yes. I think Adesanya feels boring in his division. Almost every fight looks soo easy for him. If he wins again, who should he fight next? He will be like Canelo in boxing. He should move either to other division or beat everyone for the second time.
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This is my impression too. There's a video on YouTube, "israel adesanya all losses" , and even in those videos Adesanya looks great, and it looks like he loses only because of bad luck. I like the top comment under the video:

The man is the UFC's best Middleweight currently, no doubt about it.

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Watching Vlog Series - Episode 1, I'm a bit disappointed that he's trying to downplay this title fight and treating it the same as his last 3 fights. It is certainly not and I hope that's just mind games. Maybe he's trying not to pressure himself too much which would affect his preparation.

Quote from: Hydrogen on February 09, 2022, 05:57:43 PM

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I think this fight between Adesanya and Whittaker will be closer and more competitive than their 1st meeting.

This is what I'm expecting as well but I hope it still ends in a KO/TKO in the first three rounds because that's where my bet is Grin

Quote from: TheNineClub on February 10, 2022, 01:30:46 AM

~ I always wondered that maybe that inherent toughness was preventing them from technique improvements and different fighting styles, or maybe the lack of wrestling that is holding them back from really breaking out in those top 5's of their divisions.

It could be the culture or the tradition.

They have some popular wrestlers in the WWE though Grin

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Quote from: TopTort777 on February 09, 2022, 05:01:14 AM

13 wins and 12 by KO. Tuivasa looks dangerous, but he is 6-3 only in UFC. I would say lets see him first against someone against top5, and they come back to "dangerous man on earth " Grin

Let first check how he feels against top on in a long fight.

I have confused Tuivasa and Tafa. Justin Tafa had weight problem and weigh more than HW limit allow. The reason I have confused them are their belly side quadriceps tattooes.

Tuivasa on the left, Tafa on the right.

Well, I don't blame you for mistaking them, all of those Samoan guys are huge so I would say that any of them can have weight problems at any event. But they are also tough as nails. I always wondered that maybe that inherent toughness was preventing them from technique improvements and different fighting styles, or maybe the lack of wrestling that is holding them back from really breaking out in those top 5's of their divisions.

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Quote from: notblox1 on February 08, 2022, 05:36:00 PM

I just checked the odds on Adesanya to win and they are so low that it makes no sense betting on him to win.
This fight card is really interesting not only because of the main event, but because black beast Derrick Lewis is back and it's always fun watching his fights.
I didn't make any predictions yet but I plan to do that in next few days.

Israel Adesanya 1.36 - Robert Whittaker 3.40
Yes, it's not much profitable if you are Adesanya fan. This is where a parlay might help out to increase the winnings.
Derrick Lewis 1.55 - Tai Tuivasa 2.60
Combining Adesanya and Lewis in a parlay gives you 2.1 which is a respectable profit in my opinion but that's if you want to risk it.

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Quote from: notblox1 on February 09, 2022, 06:17:56 PM

It would be interesting fight to watch and I think Adesanya would win, but one of them would have to change weight a lot.
Listen full Adesanya interview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMtxbimY2NI

That would be a fight of the year for UFC but there's no rush because after he successfully defeated Whittaker, he can finally go to Usman. That would be another big money for both the promoter and the fighters because these two are the current best fighter in this era. The UFC will allow that fight because they won't gonna decline if both fighters agreed together. Dana white might gonna approve this fight after this, so yeah, hope Adesanya will win this fight sweeply.

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Israel Adesanya just signed a new deal with UFC right before his upcoming fight with Whittaker but he is not happy how UFC was promoting this championship title fight.
Some people wanted him to fight Kamaru Usman in a super fight, including Usman manager, but he is not interested that much because he and Usman are both born and coming from same country Nigeria.
It would be interesting fight to watch and I think Adesanya would win, but one of them would have to change weight a lot.
Listen full Adesanya interview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMtxbimY2NI

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Quote from: TopTort777 on February 09, 2022, 05:01:14 AM

13 wins and 12 by KO. Tuivasa looks dangerous, but he is 6-3 only in UFC.

Tuivasa didn't take his first fights in the UFC seriously.

After his 3rd straight loss to Sergey Spivak, Tuivasa realized he needed to make a change and trained at American Kickboxing Academy in california. Apparently making that change and seeing many talented fighters in the gym everyday was what he needed to get motivated.

Since making that change, Tuivasa has had 4 straight wins by KO.

Derrick Lewis said he choked under the pressure of fighting in front of his texas home crowd, back when he fought Ciryl Gane. Lewis has also struggled with a back injury over the years, leading to inconsistent performances.

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Robert Whittaker showed many visible improvements in his game, back when he fought Kelvin Gastelum. I think this fight between Adesanya and Whittaker will be closer and more competitive than their 1st meeting.

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I haven’t made these bets yet but looking at the matches and browsing over their stats, my leans are AJ Dobson at 1.87, Alexander Hernandez at 2.47, William Knight at 2.48, Andrei Arlovski at 1.70, Nasrat Haqparast at 2.23, and Robert Whitaker at 3.35. That’s 4 underdogs out of 6. It will def need some luck. Lmao. I think a parlay on Wells and Morozov at 2.13 looks like a nice safe bet too.

And here’s a couple of Embedded vids to see what these guys are up to days before the event. Lezzz gooo!

UFC 271: Embedded Ep 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8qN_8Quz_8

UFC 271: Embedded Ep 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l237FHdqmV4

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13 wins and 12 by KO. Tuivasa looks dangerous, but he is 6-3 only in UFC. I would say lets see him first against someone against top5, and they come back to "dangerous man on earth " Grin

Let first check how he feels against top on in a long fight.

I have confused Tuivasa and Tafa. Justin Tafa had weight problem and weigh more than HW limit allow. The reason I have confused them are their belly side quadriceps tattooes.

Tuivasa on the left, Tafa on the right.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on February 08, 2022, 06:02:34 AM

There are lots of fight worth watching on UFC 271.

Adesanya vs Whittaker. Will anime fan be able to beat Whittaker once again? I guess yes. I think Adesanya feels boring in his division. Almost every fight looks soo easy for him. If he wins again, who should he fight next? He will be like Canelo in boxing. He should move either to other division or beat everyone for the second time.

Quote from: TheNineClub on February 08, 2022, 03:44:03 AM

If Tuivasa wins against Lewis, I am banking on him to be the next HW champ and drink a shoey when Dana puts a belt around him. There, I said it! Next champ right there

Tuivasa looks to fat to look like the dangerous man on earth Cheesy

Kidding, there are too many big names in heavyweight who can be champs before Tuivasa could have a title fight. Wasn't Tuivasa that guy who was too heavy for heavyweight division? I hope he makes weight this time.

May I point you to this clip then Cheesy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0CfNA12aFw

He may not look like he's the dangerous man on earth, but it's the HW division, and if he knocks out two more people he just might be the most dangerous man on earth Cheesy

Regarding him being too heavy for the HW limit, hm, I don't recall him having issues with that, I know Mark Hunt did. As he pointed out, he couldn't stay away from the cheesecake XD

But in all seriousness, hey, it's the HW division, it's so shallow that if Kelvin Gastelum puts on a couple of pounds he's be ranked top 5 amongst the heavyweights XD

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I just checked the odds on Adesanya to win and they are so low that it makes no sense betting on him to win.
This fight card is really interesting not only because of the main event, but because black beast Derrick Lewis is back and it's always fun watching his fights.
I didn't make any predictions yet but I plan to do that in next few days.

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There are lots of fight worth watching on UFC 271.

Adesanya vs Whittaker. Will anime fan be able to beat Whittaker once again? I guess yes. I think Adesanya feels boring in his division. Almost every fight looks soo easy for him. If he wins again, who should he fight next? He will be like Canelo in boxing. He should move either to other division or beat everyone for the second time.

Quote from: TheNineClub on February 08, 2022, 03:44:03 AM

If Tuivasa wins against Lewis, I am banking on him to be the next HW champ and drink a shoey when Dana puts a belt around him. There, I said it! Next champ right there

Tuivasa looks to fat to look like the dangerous man on earth Cheesy

Kidding, there are too many big names in heavyweight who can be champs before Tuivasa could have a title fight. Wasn't Tuivasa that guy who was too heavy for heavyweight division? I hope he makes weight this time.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on February 07, 2022, 07:44:49 AM

UFC 271

Date: February 13 , 2021
Main Card: SUN, FEB 13 / 5:00 AM EET
Prelims: SUN, FEB 13 / 3:00 AM EET
Early prelims: SUN, FEB 13 / 1:00 AM EET

Venue: HONDA CENTER

Main card (ESPN+)
Middleweight: Israel Adesanya (c) vs. Robert Whittaker
Heavyweight: Derrick Lewis vs. Tai Tuivasa
Middleweight: Jared Cannonier vs. Derek Brunson
Bantamweight: Kyler Phillips vs. Marcelo Rojo
Lightweight: Bobby Green vs. Nasrat Haqparast

Preliminary card (ESPN+)
Heavyweight: Andrei Arlovski vs. Jared Vanderaa
Women's Flyweight: Roxanne Modafferi vs. Casey O'Neill
Flyweight: Alex Perez vs. Matt Schnell
Light Heavyweight: William Knight vs. Maxim Grishin

Early preliminary card (ESPN+ / UFC Fight Pass)
Bantamweight: Leomana Martinez vs. Ronnie Lawrence
Lightweight: Alexander Hernandez vs. Renato Moicano
Light Heavyweight: Carlos Ulberg vs. Fabio Cherant
Middleweight: A.J. Dobson vs. Jacob Malkoun
Bantamweight: Douglas Silva de Andrade vs. Sergey Morozov
Welterweight: Jeremiah Wells vs. Mike Mathetha

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_271

Let's go, Bobby Knuckles! It's not a secret that I am a fanboy when it comes to Whittaker, but when you put everything on paper, I just see him having to make to many adjustments to his fighting style, and Adesanya not having to make any. And that's where it boils down to. Not saying he couldn't pull it off, but the odds are not in his favor. I wish he would implement more of his wrestling into the gameplan, for christ's sake he actually has some wrestling accolades. This is the armchair coach talking through me, but less overreaching when he goes into his flurries, more wrestling, and trying to get Adesanya to come to you. Yeah, easier said than done.

If Tuivasa wins against Lewis, I am banking on him to be the next HW champ and drink a shoey when Dana puts a belt around him. There, I said it! Next champ right there

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One thing for sure is however it goes this weekend, I'm going to be a nervous wreck leading up to the fight, which should make for an amazing watch. I normally get pre fight jitters when watching my favourite fighters, I've had it with Fury in boxing, Adesanya before, and a bunch of other fighters too which always makes the fights better. However, this time I've got a decent amount of money riding on it, as well as it coming down to whether my favourite fighter in the UFC actually gets it done against probably the only opponent that has a chance against him.

Quote from: Hydrogen on February 07, 2022, 12:35:04 PM

It did get (FOTN) fight of the night bonus.

Steven Peterson didn't make weight and lost eligibility to receive bonuses.

Julian Eroa collected both $50k FOTN bonus for a cool $100k.

Sweet, although from Peterson's view point, imagine having one of the fights of your career, and it being eligible for a bonus, then he forfeits that bonus by missing weight. You've got to think he'll find that one hard to get over. Although, in the future he probably won't miss weight again. I do believe though he has a track record of missing the weight so who knows.

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I haven't made a bet on for UFC 271 yet. At the moment, I'm thinking a parlay for Lewis and Adesanya in one bookie then maybe ML on Whittaker in another Grin

How do you see the duration of the main event? Will it go to the judges score card? Under 4.5 at over 2 looks like an irresistible deal.

Quote from: Welsh on February 06, 2022, 10:06:50 AM

Four out of four last night, quite pleased with that. If Izzy can do the business now next weekend, then I would have profited quite a bit there. Total multiplier was something like x56. Knowing my luck, one of my favourite fighters that I am upmost confidence in will get knocked out within the first 20 seconds.

Good luck with the remaining fights. I never won parlay above 3 matches/games in any sports but I hope you get it.

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Quote from: notblox1 on February 07, 2022, 04:39:01 PM

Split decision fights is not something I like to watch and you always have some controversy with referees and fights like this, but on paper Sean Strickland won and that is what really counts.
Julian Erosa won against Steven Peterson and he got bonus for performance of the night but he won with split decision, this was the night of split wins including co-main event.
I am glad this last UFC event finished so we can move to one to watch one of the best MMA fighters in the world Israel Adesanya against Robert Whittaker!

One of the judges did not watch the fight correctly or he is a corrupt judge who was paid by someone who had made a big bet on Jack Hermansson hehehe. It should be clearly a unanimous decision for Sean Strickland. The argument would be very similar if it was declared that Keith Thurman was a split decision winner versus Mario Barrios.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on February 07, 2022, 07:44:49 AM

UFC 271

Date: February 13 , 2021
Main Card: SUN, FEB 13 / 5:00 AM EET
Prelims: SUN, FEB 13 / 3:00 AM EET
Early prelims: SUN, FEB 13 / 1:00 AM EET

Venue: HONDA CENTER

Main card (ESPN+)
Middleweight: Israel Adesanya (c) vs. Robert Whittaker
Heavyweight: Derrick Lewis vs. Tai Tuivasa
Middleweight: Jared Cannonier vs. Derek Brunson
Bantamweight: Kyler Phillips vs. Marcelo Rojo
Lightweight: Bobby Green vs. Nasrat Haqparast

Preliminary card (ESPN+)
Heavyweight: Andrei Arlovski vs. Jared Vanderaa
Women's Flyweight: Roxanne Modafferi vs. Casey O'Neill
Flyweight: Alex Perez vs. Matt Schnell
Light Heavyweight: William Knight vs. Maxim Grishin

Early preliminary card (ESPN+ / UFC Fight Pass)
Bantamweight: Leomana Martinez vs. Ronnie Lawrence
Lightweight: Alexander Hernandez vs. Renato Moicano
Light Heavyweight: Carlos Ulberg vs. Fabio Cherant
Middleweight: A.J. Dobson vs. Jacob Malkoun
Bantamweight: Douglas Silva de Andrade vs. Sergey Morozov
Welterweight: Jeremiah Wells vs. Mike Mathetha

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_271

Finally! the UFC event that I have been waiting for could be a great time to start speculating, and the Israel Adesanya VS Robert Whittaker is the real talk of the town and I will not change my pick for that fight, I will be Israel Adesanya all the way, and I have recently seen that a lot of people are expecting an Israel Adesanya upset and for Robert Whittaker to just win with just a change of fighting style, Adesanya has said recently that people are giving so much credit to Whittaker and overvaluing him, and during their first fight his team and he has a game plan for Robert Whittaker, but he doesn't lean to that plan and do a freestyle of his own, and still do well and dominating Robert Whittaker on that fight, I think with what he just said, his team really have a game plan for his fight, and if Robert Whittaker could have a new style or a new move, he could always counter with a game plan, or do a style bender on his own.

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Split decision fights is not something I like to watch and you always have some controversy with referees and fights like this, but on paper Sean Strickland won and that is what really counts.
Julian Erosa won against Steven Peterson and he got bonus for performance of the night but he won with split decision, this was the night of split wins including co-main event.
I am glad this last UFC event finished so we can move to one to watch one of the best MMA fighters in the world Israel Adesanya against Robert Whittaker!

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Quote from: Welsh on February 06, 2022, 01:48:17 PM

I don't watch the press conferences after the fight as its usually way too late for me here, however does anyone know if the Erosa vs Peterson fight got a bonus? I watched every fight, and I'd like to think that got fight of the night. Peterson was smashing Erosa, and somehow Erosa managed to ride that out keep his chin, and then go on a wild one with all sorts of attacks. There must have been two or more spinning back fists as well as some super man punches.

It did get (FOTN) fight of the night bonus.

Steven Peterson didn't make weight and lost eligibility to receive bonuses.

Julian Eroa collected both $50k FOTN bonus for a cool $100k.

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Quote from: Betwrong on February 07, 2022, 10:17:26 AM

^^ Just watched both of them. Thanks for the links!

What can I say? Although both fighters, Adesanya and Whittaker won by decision, I thinkkwe can make a conclusion that Adesanya is more ready for the upcoming fight on 13th of February. Israel was never looking hurt, even during(and after) the best Marvin's attacks. It was looking like he was just having fun all the time. I think Adesanya's win over Whittaker is almost certain. And yet many people are still betting on Whittaker, making life of those betting on Adesanya easier.

I didnt check the odds yet but because underdogs kept winning in the past fights, putting their money on underdogs will be fun. I bet for Hermanson the last time and lost I think that trend is over. If Adesanya can avoid takedown attempts, hell win this weekend. Breaking that underdog trend becauss Izzy can weaken the legs of his opponent by the sound of his round kicks.

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