^ Dern should be diving for single legs like what most wrestlers do. Esperza did it with great success and eeked out a split decision vs Rodriguez. But man, Dern is elite on the ground. If she goes for TD’s instead of body locks, trips and hip throws, she’d be almost a complete fighter.
My other two bets lost but I’m still happy. Both were really close... It showed that the lines were way off in those two matches.
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^ Esparza is a way better wrestler than Dern. Yes Dern is a grappler but she’s mostly BJJ. Dern has to take Rodriguez first before she can do her thing... Which I admit, if Dern does take Rodriguez down, it’s over. But if she doesn’t, watch Rodriguez tee off on Dern’s face. And I think the latter is more likely.
My bets thus far are Rodriguez, Elliott and Corales. All dogs, follow at your own risk. I’m more a degenerate than a sharp.
And last call for jeremypwr’s Multi Master.
UFC Vegas 39 Multi Master
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sportsbetio-ufc-vegas-39-10921-new-rules-5364124
My bets thus far are Rodriguez, Elliott and Corales. All dogs, follow at your own risk. I’m more a degenerate than a sharp.
And last call for jeremypwr’s Multi Master.
UFC Vegas 39 Multi Master
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sportsbetio-ufc-vegas-39-10921-new-rules-5364124
I really think there are different techniques with Wrestling and Brazilian jiu-jitsu and Wrestling is more intense than BJJ mostly if you are wrestling more your cardio will likely be training as well, because of its intensity, but Submission mostly comes from BJJ I think effectivity wise, the goal is to submit your opponent and BJJ can submit your opponent in both top and bottom position, but effectiveness will sure vary and may always depend on the situation of the fight.
Well, Congratulations to Marina Rodriguez and to all that pick and bet for her, most of the time Dern really wants to throw Rodriguez to the ground but Marina Rodriguez shows great defense with Dern's takedown throw, the 2nd round was an intense round for Marina Rodriguez while Dern just caught Rodriguez arm, Mackenzie Dern's just really dominates the ground very well it just time was really not in favor with Dern, but the 3rd round was really around for Rodriguez, a really great match for both fighters, even though I think that Dern really did well, the score was for the judges to decides.
Here are the results of this fight card, nothing much to talk in the main card as i am yet to watch all the fights yet.
Source: Wiki.
Source: Wiki.
Fights started early and I just fisnihed watching heavyweight fight, Alexander Romanov was brutally dominating against Jared Vanderaa, and he still have perfect record, that could be serious competition for the top of HW division.
I expect to see him climbing the UFC rankings and his next fight should be against much stronger fighter.
Alexander Romanov looked great against Jared Vanderaa as he was able to impose his wrestling game and was able to take him down and control him on the ground and hopefully he will fight more often and climb the ranks and want to see him fight the top fighters to see his level. I expect to see him climbing the UFC rankings and his next fight should be against much stronger fighter.
Fights started early and I just fisnihed watching heavyweight fight, Alexander Romanov was brutally dominating against Jared Vanderaa, and he still have perfect record, that could be serious competition for the top of HW division.
I expect to see him climbing the UFC rankings and his next fight should be against much stronger fighter.
I expect to see him climbing the UFC rankings and his next fight should be against much stronger fighter.
My picks for the event are Alexander Romanov, Gutierrez, Hawes, Sabina Mazo, Matheus Nicolau and finally picking Mackenzie Dern.
The fight card already started and i missed the early fights, even though i am not interested in the entire card as i am waiting for the Wilder and Fury card and so is the reason UFC also made a lackluster card.
The fight card already started and i missed the early fights, even though i am not interested in the entire card as i am waiting for the Wilder and Fury card and so is the reason UFC also made a lackluster card.
The only way Dern will win this is if she can get on top of Rodriguez early in the round. I do not understand why Rodriguez has the odds that she does. Dern is a good fighter but I think Rodriguez beats her on the ground and standing up. Dern is not someone who likes to have a bloody fight and Rodriguez lives for that. Dern is going to be very uncomfortable and get knocked out tonight. I am going to place a bet on Rodriguez in round 2 by tko.
Since majority is backing Marina Rodriguez to win the fight, i am going to pick Mackenzie Dern to win the fight simply because of her submission skills, if she could improve her wrestling game then she is a threat in the division but she is still dangerous with her ground game and she can submit when opportunity arises and if she is able to take the fight to the ground somehow she can clinch that victory. If Mackenzie Dern wins this fight she might get the title opportunity but she needs to improve her wrestling skills.
I think I will be a neutral supporter in this match and will just enjoy the match. I personally feel that Marina has some very good striking skills compared to dern, but if think that Dern will excel in the ground fight. If Dern can get Marina to the ground and get her submission early as possible, Dern will have the match but she has to be very cautious while standing because as Marina is a very good striker, Dern might get KO'ed. Who do you guys think will win the match?
The only way Dern will win this is if she can get on top of Rodriguez early in the round. I do not understand why Rodriguez has the odds that she does. Dern is a good fighter but I think Rodriguez beats her on the ground and standing up. Dern is not someone who likes to have a bloody fight and Rodriguez lives for that. Dern is going to be very uncomfortable and get knocked out tonight. I am going to place a bet on Rodriguez in round 2 by tko.
Since majority is backing Marina Rodriguez to win the fight, i am going to pick Mackenzie Dern to win the fight simply because of her submission skills, if she could improve her wrestling game then she is a threat in the division but she is still dangerous with her ground game and she can submit when opportunity arises and if she is able to take the fight to the ground somehow she can clinch that victory. If Mackenzie Dern wins this fight she might get the title opportunity but she needs to improve her wrestling skills.
The only way Dern will win this is if she can get on top of Rodriguez early in the round. I do not understand why Rodriguez has the odds that she does. Dern is a good fighter but I think Rodriguez beats her on the ground and standing up. Dern is not someone who likes to have a bloody fight and Rodriguez lives for that. Dern is going to be very uncomfortable and get knocked out tonight. I am going to place a bet on Rodriguez in round 2 by tko.
Since majority is backing Marina Rodriguez to win the fight, i am going to pick Mackenzie Dern to win the fight simply because of her submission skills, if she could improve her wrestling game then she is a threat in the division but she is still dangerous with her ground game and she can submit when opportunity arises and if she is able to take the fight to the ground somehow she can clinch that victory. If Mackenzie Dern wins this fight she might get the title opportunity but she needs to improve her wrestling skills.
The only way Dern will win this is if she can get on top of Rodriguez early in the round. I do not understand why Rodriguez has the odds that she does. Dern is a good fighter but I think Rodriguez beats her on the ground and standing up. Dern is not someone who likes to have a bloody fight and Rodriguez lives for that. Dern is going to be very uncomfortable and get knocked out tonight. I am going to place a bet on Rodriguez in round 2 by tko.
^ Esparza is a way better wrestler than Dern. Yes Dern is a grappler but she’s mostly BJJ. Dern has to take Rodriguez first before she can do her thing... Which I admit, if Dern does take Rodriguez down, it’s over. But if she doesn’t, watch Rodriguez tee off on Dern’s face. And I think the latter is more likely.
My bets thus far are Rodriguez, Elliott and Corales. All dogs, follow at your own risk. I’m more a degenerate than a sharp.
And last call for jeremypwr’s Multi Master.
UFC Vegas 39 Multi Master
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sportsbetio-ufc-vegas-39-10921-new-rules-5364124
My bets thus far are Rodriguez, Elliott and Corales. All dogs, follow at your own risk. I’m more a degenerate than a sharp.
And last call for jeremypwr’s Multi Master.
UFC Vegas 39 Multi Master
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sportsbetio-ufc-vegas-39-10921-new-rules-5364124
I would like to think that it will happen and my bet will surely win, but if Marina Rodriguez would have a good takedown defense then she might win this as well, I haven't taken the possibility that Marina Rodriguez can also win, but I really like a fighter with a style like Dern.
Yeah, this is a tough one to call. All fights start standing up, and on paper Rodriguez is much more skillful in stand up than Dern is, however, her takedown defense comes into question as she hasn't had more than 6 years of some type of grappling training, and with Dern being an ADCC veteran where there is an emphasis on wrestling, I could see her being able to take it to the ground, From there on its game over for Rodriguez. But thats all MMA mathz and I wouldn't bet my life on it. The most telling thing about Rodriguez is her fight with Carla Esparza.
Well, her fight with Esparza was really a wake-up call for her to train her takedown defense more, so I really don't know if Marina Rodriguez is eventually hardened that her defense with takedowns or not because if she really didn't her only way to win is to keep the distance between them and hope to aim her strikes accurately in taking down Dern's, she could try Izzy's method with fighters that are good at wrestling, Rodriguez really had a hard time and the pressure from Esparza have taken her by surprise, I would still go with Mckenzie Dern's to win against Rodriguez.
I would like to think that it will happen and my bet will surely win, but if Marina Rodriguez would have a good takedown defense then she might win this as well, I haven't taken the possibility that Marina Rodriguez can also win, but I really like a fighter with a style like Dern.
Yeah, this is a tough one to call. All fights start standing up, and on paper Rodriguez is much more skillful in stand up than Dern is, however, her takedown defense comes into question as she hasn't had more than 6 years of some type of grappling training, and with Dern being an ADCC veteran where there is an emphasis on wrestling, I could see her being able to take it to the ground, From there on its game over for Rodriguez. But thats all MMA mathz and I wouldn't bet my life on it. The most telling thing about Rodriguez is her fight with Carla Esparza.
^ We’ll see... I really feel like Dern could start getting uncomfortable in there after eating a couple of solid punches from Rodriguez.
Rodriguez also had the tougher competition moving on up the rankings. And her last match was vs Waterson who’s a slightly better wrestler than Dern imho. I think Rodriguez defended Waterson’s TD attempts well. I gotta watch that match again.
Edit: Here it is!
UFC Free Fight: Rodriguez vs Waterson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEj3hBLsZTw
Going to watch it now...
Edit: Go straight to the third round. Rodriguez is nasty. Dern would have to take it to the ground early.
Weigh ins in a couple of hours.
UFC Fight Night 194: Weigh in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CR3ebujfGPQ
Rodriguez also had the tougher competition moving on up the rankings. And her last match was vs Waterson who’s a slightly better wrestler than Dern imho. I think Rodriguez defended Waterson’s TD attempts well. I gotta watch that match again.
Edit: Here it is!
UFC Free Fight: Rodriguez vs Waterson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEj3hBLsZTw
Going to watch it now...
Edit: Go straight to the third round. Rodriguez is nasty. Dern would have to take it to the ground early.
Weigh ins in a couple of hours.
UFC Fight Night 194: Weigh in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CR3ebujfGPQ
I really like Michelle Waterson and after seeing how Rodriguez dominate that fight I really feel that Waterson might be over with UFC, but she hasn't announced her retirement yet but in my opinion, Mackenzie Dern has her specialty with her submission moves, I don't really like to say that Dern's Wrestling is better than Waterson, but I am seeing a different skill set than Waterson, I still believe in Mackenzie Dern, Right now in stake.com Dern has 1.56 Odds while Rodriguez has 2.65, Mackenzie Dern has the edge on the odds.
What interests me in this match is that the 2 fighters' fighting style is very different. I like when these types of fight happen. We got a striker vs submission queen battle. I think that submissions will outperform the huge strikes Marian Rodriguez will blow in Dern's body. Once Dern gets hold of Marina in a submission position, you can say that it's almost over.
I would like to think that it will happen and my bet will surely win, but if Marina Rodriguez would have a good takedown defense then she might win this as well, I haven't taken the possibility that Marina Rodriguez can also win, but I really like a fighter with a style like Dern.
it was funny looking at two fat heavyweights Vanderaa and Romanov smiling and being happy during face-offs
They are happy that soon their cheat meal days (aka regular days) will start
I always like that kind of heavyweights. Smiling and kind people, but deadly in the ring. Compared to those who looked like serial killers.
Odds tell that Romanov is a favorite. I also think that he will win.
I'm gonna skip this event. Boxing fight is way more interesting this weekend.
I still love that story when Mark Hunt had to lose weight to make the HW limit XD I think he said it was too much cheesecake
. You only get those types of things in HW, and yeah, we can argue that that division is lacking quality fighters compared to the rest, but they still, at least in some aspect, have retained that old-school fighting vibe. You get a guy that looks like he's totally out of shape gasping for air after the first round 
love it. 
it was funny looking at two fat heavyweights Vanderaa and Romanov smiling and being happy during face-offs
They are happy that soon their cheat meal days (aka regular days) will start
I always like that kind of heavyweights. Smiling and kind people, but deadly in the ring. Compared to those who looked like serial killers.
Odds tell that Romanov is a favorite. I also think that he will win.
I'm gonna skip this event. Boxing fight is way more interesting this weekend.
Less than a day left for event start and weigh-ins with face-offs are completed and main event is confirmed, and it was funny looking at two fat heavyweights Vanderaa and Romanov smiling and being happy during face-offs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0fFEK9YBso
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0fFEK9YBso
The no. 6 ranked fighter plays the no. 4 ranked player, this will be an exciting match to watch. Dern (11-1) is on a hot 4 winning streak and she will be wanting to make that 5 and Maria have also got a good stat of 14-1-2 and is on a two winning streak so far after beating Michelle Waterson in May. Both the fighters are very capable and Maria has got very good striking capability but I'd opt for Dern in this match.
Dern surely got a good background in wrestling with her style Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and with her 7 submission wins I think she is capable of taking down the good at striking Marina Rodriguez, my take this I really like Marina Rodriguez style with her striking and she outstrikes Michelle Waterson that is how good of a striker she is, but for me, I really like a Khabib style of game, so my pick will be Mackenzie Dern.
What interests me in this match is that the 2 fighters' fighting style is very different. I like when these types of fight happen. We got a striker vs submission queen battle. I think that submissions will outperform the huge strikes Marian Rodriguez will blow in Dern's body. Once Dern gets hold of Marina in a submission position, you can say that it's almost over.
^ We’ll see... I really feel like Dern could start getting uncomfortable in there after eating a couple of solid punches from Rodriguez.
Rodriguez also had the tougher competition moving on up the rankings. And her last match was vs Waterson who’s a slightly better wrestler than Dern imho. I think Rodriguez defended Waterson’s TD attempts well. I gotta watch that match again.
Edit: Here it is!
UFC Free Fight: Rodriguez vs Waterson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEj3hBLsZTw
Going to watch it now...
Edit: Go straight to the third round. Rodriguez is nasty. Dern would have to take it to the ground early.
Weigh ins in a couple of hours.
UFC Fight Night 194: Weigh in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CR3ebujfGPQ
Rodriguez also had the tougher competition moving on up the rankings. And her last match was vs Waterson who’s a slightly better wrestler than Dern imho. I think Rodriguez defended Waterson’s TD attempts well. I gotta watch that match again.
Edit: Here it is!
UFC Free Fight: Rodriguez vs Waterson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEj3hBLsZTw
Going to watch it now...
Edit: Go straight to the third round. Rodriguez is nasty. Dern would have to take it to the ground early.
Weigh ins in a couple of hours.
UFC Fight Night 194: Weigh in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CR3ebujfGPQ
The will has nothing to do with it, that's where the coaches have to step in and persuade the fighter that things like this are not a good idea. IMHO she could have won that fight had she taken the time to properly rest and heal after she gave birth + the baby is waking you up all night, you don't get adequate rest throughout the day and that's affecting your training recovery, focus is off while in the training camp, so on and so forth. That 'though' mentality has not place in profecional sports.
Well, we have our own opinion regarding why she has returned after giving birth, but I really think she really loves what she does, I think she knows her body very well if she can return or not to fight it is up to her and not the coaches or the people beside her, anyway I am just betting on the main event and just watch the other fights, but I will still look for the other fighters and see if there are potential ones that may be worthy to bet on, but for me, I really think Mackenzie Dern's wrestling will be superior against the striking of Marina Rodriguez, I think Dern will have many ways in giving Rodriguez a hard time and can pressure her with takedowns. my pick will be Mackenzie Dern will win by a Submission.
Cool story about Mackenzie Dern returning back to MMA after he became a mother, here first fight was only four months after she had a baby and this was her only loss so far.
I am giving her advantage to win in fight against Marina Rodriguez and we may see full five round fight:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ID8VcJboOnw
I am giving her advantage to win in fight against Marina Rodriguez and we may see full five round fight:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ID8VcJboOnw
Dern returning to MMA 4 months after gave birth is just cringe. But whatever, glad she is active with 3 fights in 2020 and now at least 2 in 2021. Others should take notes on the level of activity an upcoming fighter should have to keep remaining relevant in the promotion. With a win here she should be golden when it comes to rankings and could very well be in line to fight the loser of Weili / Namajunas.
I think it is normal to stop fighting when a female is surely giving birth but I sure like her will in return after she has given birth to Moa, and this fight could be a great fight and because it became the main event it could be an outstanding fight my take Mackenzie Dern is a pure Wrestling chick while Marina Rodriguez is a good striker, this could be a great fight to watch if what style would prevail, a pure striker vs a wrestler I could say Marina's striking could be interrupted by takedowns from Dern but if Marina has a good takedown defense she could withstand every takedown Dern throws at her, but still I am waiting for some opinions for me to take my pick.
The will has nothing to do with it, that's where the coaches have to step in and persuade the fighter that things like this are not a good idea. IMHO she could have won that fight had she taken the time to properly rest and heal after she gave birth + the baby is waking you up all night, you don't get adequate rest throughout the day and that's affecting your training recovery, focus is off while in the training camp, so on and so forth. That 'though' mentality has not place in profecional sports.
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