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June 02, 2024, 11:02:08 AM
Regarding the main fight, it always seemed like Poirier would score a knockout. However, it never came. I'm happy for the great fights we had but sad that I didn't get all my bets right. But it was a great card, especially because of Strickland and Almeida!
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June 02, 2024, 09:54:22 AM
Everyone appears to be talking about Islam and Dustin Poirier and also being reminded that there is also Sean Strickland vs. Paulo Costa. However, I also want to remind everyone that there is a sexy fighting kitten for this event and her name is Ailin Perez from the country of Argentina.



On her introduction by Bruce Buffer in the octagon she will show her respect on her opponent with her welcome circle walk and bow.



However, on her victory dance, this does not appear to be very respectful heehhehehehe.


Finally she managed to win her fight against Joselyne Edwards (by decision) and she did her signature twerk movement in the octogon after her victory.
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But you should fill a bit disappointed today to not have taken my offer, no? Because you would have won the bet. Islam Makhachev has beaten Dustin Poirier in the last round, by submission with a choke. Not a rear naked choke, a D’Arce choke precisely, but a regular one as I suggested.

Yes he can win by KO or TKO for sure, or even by a kimura or an armbar submission and if you had bet on a victory by rear naked choke submission you would lose your bet despite his nice victory, you might feel wronged, but that's how it is. Betting on how he will win is just not the same thing as betting if he will win or not. So if you don't feel comfortable with betting on his precise winning method, we could just bet on a victory by choke. It means Islam would have to win the fight and to get his victory by submitting his opponent with a choke. But any kind of choking technique would be ok and not only the rear naked one.  
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chokehold#Types
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June 02, 2024, 08:01:51 AM
Here are the results.  The two matches that ended both via split decision really were from bad judging.  I don't know what the couple of judges were watching with the Strickland vs Costa and the Kopylov vs Almeida match ups...  The winners were bar none Strickland and Kopylov.

Islam Makhachev def Dustin Poirier  SUB R5
Sean Strickland def Paulo Costa  SD
Kevin Holland def Michał Oleksiejczuk  SUB R1
Niko Price def Alex Morono   Decision  UD
Randy Brown def Elizeu Zaleski dos Santos  UD
Roman Kopylov def César Almeida  SD
Jailton Almeida def Alexander Romanov  SUB R1
Grant Dawson def Joe Solecki  UD
Jake Matthews def Philip Rowe  UD
Bassil Hafez def Mickey Gall  UD
Ailín Pérez def Joselyne Edwards  UD
André Lima def Mitch Raposo  SD

And here's the post fight press conference.  Always good to watch it if Dana White is on, just to have an idea what they're planning next in the UFC.

UFC 302:  Post Fight Press Conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_OP9vjo1w4
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June 02, 2024, 05:04:50 AM
This is what we have been waiting for the time has finally come and indeed Islam Makhachev vs Dustin Poirier is the main fight that has been eagerly awaited, they have created their own hype in the fight for the lightweight title.
In my opinion, their fight is much more interesting and more important than Paulo Costa vs Sean Strickland.

In the end we can see how Islam Makhachev fights and shows his ambition in defending his title for the third time because this is very important fight for Islam Makhachev.
But on the other hand, Poirier will try to fight as best as possible and get win in order to become the undisputed champion.
In just matter of hours we will see how they fight for the title, I will still make Islam Makhachev the favorite.
For Poirier it was the most important fight in his career, because for him it was the third attempt to take the title and he spent it perfectly, but Islam Makhachev was objectively stronger and it is logical that he still ended the fight with a choke hold, but still Poirier did everything to protect himself from the transfer to the floor, defended desperately, but apparently in the 5th round was not enough strength and Makhachev fulfilled to the end of his plan.
It should be noted that Makhachev looked very good in the standup, although before the fight it seemed that Poirier was much stronger in the standup and his punching power is better than Makhachev's, but Makhachev was able to surprise everyone when he looked equal or even better than Poirier in the standup.
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June 02, 2024, 04:22:56 AM
Boooring event Cheesy Since UFC 299 and UFC 300, it is hard to impress. So many decisions in this event. Even 3 split decisions. At least main event did not get me disappointed. However, there were so many attempts to get Poirier to ground and choke him, and Poirier evades all of them (except 1 lol). I have expected a quicker finish. Still, but two fights against Volk were much better.
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June 01, 2024, 10:49:16 PM
This is what we have been waiting for the time has finally come and indeed Islam Makhachev vs Dustin Poirier is the main fight that has been eagerly awaited, they have created their own hype in the fight for the lightweight title.
In my opinion, their fight is much more interesting and more important than Paulo Costa vs Sean Strickland.

In the end we can see how Islam Makhachev fights and shows his ambition in defending his title for the third time because this is very important fight for Islam Makhachev.
But on the other hand, Poirier will try to fight as best as possible and get win in order to become the undisputed champion.
In just matter of hours we will see how they fight for the title, I will still make Islam Makhachev the favorite.
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June 01, 2024, 12:12:34 PM
How many of you know the reason why such a great fighter as Demetreous Johnson was kicked from UFC? Reason is obvious - money. But here are some interesting info (I did not know such details) When a fighter becomes achampion, his contract gets automatically reconsidered into 500k+% from PPV. That is default. Wheb Mighty Mouse became champ, guess how much did he get? 14+14! For title defence. Two times for title defences he got only that amount. When he wrote an open letter to Dana, his payment got increased to 125k. But no PPV extra. Dana told that PPV sales does not affect flyweight. Google for his record and calculate how much money UFC owe him… No wonder he left or got kicked.

From what I have seen in his documentary, he had been saying even in some interviews that UFC wants him to troll around and speak negatively to his opponent to sell the fight. But DJ is not the kind of person. I guess the relationship got colder with Dana. The promotion just wants someone who can do both and put his words into action. It's pretty rare for a fighter who can actually fight with his mouth except Conor and also do it in the cage.

Anyway. This one is coming.


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June 01, 2024, 07:19:54 AM
So here we are again...  Just 10 hours before the event.  Can't wait!

And here are the weigh in results.  One guy missed weight and is over the limit by 4 lbs.  That tells me that he prolly did try to get rid of the extra weight and will go in there with batteries fully charged.  This match prolly won't go the full distance.  Dunno tho...

UFC 302:  Ceremonial Weigh In
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99R0wnF0RK8

Islam Makhachev (155) vs Dustin Poirier (155) – for lightweight title
Paulo Costa (185) vs Sean Strickland (185)
Kevin Holland (185) vs  Michal Oleksiejczuk (185)
Alex Morono (170) vs Niko Price (170)
Randy Brown (170) vs Elizeu Zaleski dos Santos (170)
Cesar Almeida (185) vs Roman Kopylov (185)
Jailton Almeida (241) vs Alexandr Romanov (265)
Grant Dawson (155) vs Joe Solecki (155)
Jake Matthews (170) vs Phil Rowe (171)
Bassil Hafez (170) vs Mickey Gall (170)
Joselyne Edwards (136) vs Ailin Perez (135)
Andre Lima (130)* vs Mitch Raposo (125)

*Missed weight

Here's the last couple of vids of Embedded.  Watch episode 5.  Pretty sure somebody in here will like it.  Lolol.

UFC 302:  Embedded Episode 5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtyEznE_I7Y

UFC 302:  Embedded Episode 6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkPpToY6bkM

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UFC 302:  Multi Master Challenge
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June 01, 2024, 03:32:46 AM
How many of you know the reason why such a great fighter as Demetreous Johnson was kicked from UFC? Reason is obvious - money. But here are some interesting info (I did not know such details) When a fighter becomes achampion, his contract gets automatically reconsidered into 500k+% from PPV. That is default. Wheb Mighty Mouse became champ, guess how much did he get? 14+14! For title defence. Two times for title defences he got only that amount. When he wrote an open letter to Dana, his payment got increased to 125k. But no PPV extra. Dana told that PPV sales does not affect flyweight. Google for his record and calculate how much money UFC owe him… No wonder he left or got kicked.
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Everyone appears to be talking about Islam and Dustin Poirier and also being reminded that there is also Sean Strickland vs. Paulo Costa. However, I also want to remind everyone that there is a sexy fighting kitten for this event and her name is Ailin Perez from the country of Argentina.



On her introduction by Bruce Buffer in the octagon she will show her respect on her opponent with her welcome circle walk and bow.



However, on her victory dance, this does not appear to be very respectful heehhehehehe.

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If Sean can survive up to 3rd round I think he will be winning this fight. As long as the fight will just be standing and Strickland will not receive big blows, he will get his hand raised. I think Costa's secret juice will not save him when it comes to gassing out. He doesn't have the tank to last 5 rounds. This could be a decision since Costa is also aware of his gas. He will save some just to avoid getting KO'd.


IMO it's Strickland's fight, unless he makes a mistake.
Costa is a heavy hitter, muscular, but lacks finesse and isn't very fast, rather likes to punch slower but harder, same with kicks they're not that fast but hard. Strickland moves better, has better cardio.

Also, Costa lost most of his recent fights, including Adesanya, who lost vs Strickland. The only fight he managed to win was Rockhold, who is also on a losing streak an already on his way to retirement, because let's face it, at 40 you're not going to win any belts in UFC.

Strickland doesn't usually get tired easily, so if he can make it to the end he can gain an advantage and score more points. However, he needs to manage the first two well, otherwise there's no point in reaching the third without winning the first two or at least one.
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If Sean can survive up to 3rd round I think he will be winning this fight. As long as the fight will just be standing and Strickland will not receive big blows, he will get his hand raised. I think Costa's secret juice will not save him when it comes to gassing out. He doesn't have the tank to last 5 rounds. This could be a decision since Costa is also aware of his gas. He will save some just to avoid getting KO'd.


IMO it's Strickland's fight, unless he makes a mistake.
Costa is a heavy hitter, muscular, but lacks finesse and isn't very fast, rather likes to punch slower but harder, same with kicks they're not that fast but hard. Strickland moves better, has better cardio.

Also, Costa lost most of his recent fights, including Adesanya, who lost vs Strickland. The only fight he managed to win was Rockhold, who is also on a losing streak an already on his way to retirement, because let's face it, at 40 you're not going to win any belts in UFC.
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Not a single word about Strickland vs Costa fight Cheesy What do you think about it? Could Strickland survive power of Costas and secret juice? Is Costa able to crack Philadelphia defence of Strickland? Will black belt in JJ help Costa (did he ever even used his skills or only rely on his strength all the time?).

Apparently both of them have black JJ belts, which only shows how little this means nowadays. Strickland even joked about tossing his black belt into the boot of his car and never bothering getting it out.
I honestly don't know what to think of this fight. Obviously we should expect it to be a 100% stand up fight, but who wins is open for debate.
Strickland is the favourite and if he shows up properly focussed and keeps his discipline as he did against Adesanya, that should be enough to grab a win.
Costa can make an impression of a social media clown, who is more pre-occupied on PR stunts than he is on training, but then again, he didn't look all that bad fighting against Whittaker, and showed that he can do some damage.
If both come 100% prepared, I'll give it a 60/40 for Strickland.

If Sean can survive up to 3rd round I think he will be winning this fight. As long as the fight will just be standing and Strickland will not receive big blows, he will get his hand raised. I think Costa's secret juice will not save him when it comes to gassing out. He doesn't have the tank to last 5 rounds. This could be a decision since Costa is also aware of his gas. He will save some just to avoid getting KO'd.
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Not a single word about Strickland vs Costa fight Cheesy What do you think about it? Could Strickland survive power of Costas and secret juice? Is Costa able to crack Philadelphia defence of Strickland? Will black belt in JJ help Costa (did he ever even used his skills or only rely on his strength all the time?).

Apparently both of them have black JJ belts, which only shows how little this means nowadays. Strickland even joked about tossing his black belt into the boot of his car and never bothering getting it out.
I honestly don't know what to think of this fight. Obviously we should expect it to be a 100% stand up fight, but who wins is open for debate.
Strickland is the favourite and if he shows up properly focussed and keeps his discipline as he did against Adesanya, that should be enough to grab a win.
Costa can make an impression of a social media clown, who is more pre-occupied on PR stunts than he is on training, but then again, he didn't look all that bad fighting against Whittaker, and showed that he can do some damage.
If both come 100% prepared, I'll give it a 60/40 for Strickland.
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^  Maybe than and even if they're his friend, Poirier is a vet who's made a name for himself in the UFC...  They're just giving him the respect that's due to him.  And it's prolly the most unpopular thing to do rn.  I mean this is a huge fight for the guy.

Exactly, he didn't get to the top of the toughest weight division in the UFC by accident. Poirier might not be a specialist in one area like Islam is in wrestling, but he's a very solid and well-rounded fighter. On top of that he got a huge mental boost after KO'ing Saint Denis in a fight in which he was a massive underdog.
Skills aside, mental advantage should be on Dustin's side, he's on the uplift and has got nothing to lose. He doesn't even have to win for his "stocks" to go up. All he has to do is to survive 5 rounds or just give a good fight and not get totally run over by Islam, to be able to call it a success.

I'd be rooting for Islam though, as I think it's better for the UFC and the overall entertainment if he wins. There's a deficit of long-reigning champions currently, making the sport look a bit random and chaotic.

Yeah would love to see Poirier win but from a betting perspective, we'd def just be burning money.  I'd rather drop a little something on a sketchy parlay than be straight on Poirier at the current line.  Dawson - Jailton Almeida - Makhachev at even money could be good.  But sketchy with Almeida possibly being the pie shtter.  Lol.  Another sketchier one is Morono - Holland - Strickland with two pie shtters in Morono and Holland.  Cheesy Cheesy

Anyway...  Some vids to watch.

UFC 302:  Pre Fight Press Conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBlEgmvMI6U

UFC 302:  Embedded Episode 4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfnf3S7JyVA
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Not a single word about Strickland vs Costa fight Cheesy What do you think about it? Could Strickland survive power of Costas and secret juice? Is Costa able to crack Philadelphia defence of Strickland? Will black belt in JJ help Costa (did he ever even used his skills or only rely on his strength all the time?). If with main event it is somehow clear, again Dagestani guy will choke his opponent, then I dont know what to expect from Costa and Strickland.

Well, both of them are crazy. Maybe Sean Strickland is a little bit more. I actually think Sean Strickland is almost always a 50-50 choice. You never know what he is going to do. Costa is obviously going to rely on his strength a lot more than his techniques.



About the main event, it is not going to be as easy. Remember in the fight between Khabib and Dustin Poirier, he actually got hold of Khabib really well. But Khabib had the techniques to actually get out of such a strong choke hold. But if something like that happens in this fight, I doubt that Islam has that same level of technique.
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Not a single word about Strickland vs Costa fight Cheesy What do you think about it? Could Strickland survive power of Costas and secret juice? Is Costa able to crack Philadelphia defence of Strickland? Will black belt in JJ help Costa (did he ever even used his skills or only rely on his strength all the time?). If with main event it is somehow clear, again Dagestani guy will choke his opponent, then I dont know what to expect from Costa and Strickland.
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I am actually surprised to see, that many fighters in their interview say that it wont be an easy fight for Makhachev, either Poirier will knock Makhachev out. Is this because they are friends (or better say sparing partners or in good relationships) with Poirier and want to cheer him. Because sometimes fighters get really offended when fighters they know say they are going to lose. When Khabib fought him, people were more or less expecting Khabib to win. This times mostly bookies cheer for Islam, when fighters see Poirier to win.

This expectation is justified because there are great chances, and many are rooting for him because in a certain way Poirier is expected to lose, so rooting for him makes sense for everyone who is against the current champion, among other reasons.
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^  Maybe than and even if they're his friend, Poirier is a vet who's made a name for himself in the UFC...  They're just giving him the respect that's due to him.  And it's prolly the most unpopular thing to do rn.  I mean this is a huge fight for the guy.

Exactly, he didn't get to the top of the toughest weight division in the UFC by accident. Poirier might not be a specialist in one area like Islam is in wrestling, but he's a very solid and well-rounded fighter. On top of that he got a huge mental boost after KO'ing Saint Denis in a fight in which he was a massive underdog.
Skills aside, mental advantage should be on Dustin's side, he's on the uplift and has got nothing to lose. He doesn't even have to win for his "stocks" to go up. All he has to do is to survive 5 rounds or just give a good fight and not get totally run over by Islam, to be able to call it a success.

I'd be rooting for Islam though, as I think it's better for the UFC and the overall entertainment if he wins. There's a deficit of long-reigning champions currently, making the sport look a bit random and chaotic.
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^  Maybe than and even if they're his friend, Poirier is a vet who's made a name for himself in the UFC...  They're just giving him the respect that's due to him.  And it's prolly the most unpopular thing to do rn.  I mean this is a huge fight for the guy.  

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UFC 302:  Multi Master Challenge
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Islam Makhachev
Sean Strickland
Kevin Holland
Jailton Almeida
Elizeu Zaleski
Roman Kopylov
Grant Dawson
Phil Rowe
Alex Morono
Bassil Hafez
Ailin Perez
Andre Lima

UFC 302:  Embedded Episode 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJh3hi6N3VA

UFC 302:  Embedded Episode 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqU5x6V4Kd0
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