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^ You think Khabib vs Conor 2 will be possible if that happens for his comeback fight? It will still be a big promotion for UFC even if the outcome is obvious.

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And I have a feeling we're more likely to see Pereira Vs Adesanya 3 (in the 205) before we see Pereira fighting Jones/Aspinall.

Huh? Chama. Even though UFC might want to make this fight, I feel like Izzy dont has a huge desire to gain. He once fought in LH, and showed nothing. It will be more easier and profitable for him to Take belt in middleweight, avenge Strickland and beat Whittaker for the third time Cheesy

I don't see that fight coming either. Not sure if Pereira will be going back to the MW, maybe depending on the offer. Pereira fighting on the HW is already a big money waiting for him and he isn't going to risk dehydrating himself since it looks like his body is meant for LH. There is more for Pereira to pursue HW, even if he starts with Volkov, it's worth it if done in Saudi.

And I remember Izzy said he doesn't need the trilogy as the sage is over. He is also fighting DDP, for all we know he might not win against DDP.

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Quote from: tokeweed on July 04, 2024, 07:06:43 AM

Lol did you watch it yet? Cheesy

So hilarious.

Yeah, the interview part was surprisingly calm and everyone was so nice and composed... and then the staredown happened Grin

Did you guys hear the news about Khabib fleeing Russia and getting his accounts frozen + business raided over the alleged $3 millon that he owed to Russian tax man?
Credit to notblox1 for bringing this up in the ALTT forum
Some links:

https://www.sportspolitika.news/p/ufc-khabib-nurmagomedov-politics-putin-mma-russi
https://www.marca.com/en/ufc/2024/07/01/6682d584e2704e395e8b458c.html
https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world/conor-mcgregor-alleges-khabib-nurmagomedov-is-in-dubai-following-russian-government-s-seizure-of-the-eagle-s-bank-accounts/ar-BB1pedqb

Damn, if he doesn't have a proper amount stashed in some safe place, who knows, he might be forced to come back from retirement and fight at least one more time.

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^ If ever Adesanya wins vs DDP and becomes champ at 185 again, I don't think the UFC would like to match him up vs Pereira again. Not in 185 at least. The weight cut is too draining for Pereria.

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Anyway, did you guys watch the on sale press conference for 305? I was like not really that excited for DDP vs Adesanya. But after watching the intense and may mention hilarious face off, oh my... I'm all for the match up! LFG! Cheesy

They were like two little kids who are about to fight in the playground.

OK, you sparked my interest. I'll go and watch it now.

Lol did you watch it yet? Cheesy

So hilarious.

Anyway, no event this weekend. Sucks.. But here's some vids to watch for the next PPV event.

UFC Free Fight: Edwards vs Usman 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IESed0ndjn8

UFC Free Fight: Muhammad vs Brady
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1j7-FaJDws

I think Muhammad is gonna make it boring and win via UD.

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Quote from: cabron on July 03, 2024, 11:16:37 AM

Pereira hasn't fought someone like Jones so that going to be a big puzzle for him when they fight. Tom is not getting the belt easily, Dana is just not letting Jones go despite not being around anymore. The belt wasn't stripped either.

While Bones had fought guys like Pereira before. Like I've said, give Pereira someone who isnt about to retire and knows how to play wrestling, and he wont be able to get away from submission. Even old Blachowicz managed to get Pereira to the ground.

Quote from: pawel7777 on July 03, 2024, 04:37:50 PM

And I have a feeling we're more likely to see Pereira Vs Adesanya 3 (in the 205) before we see Pereira fighting Jones/Aspinall.

Huh? Chama. Even though UFC might want to make this fight, I feel like Izzy dont has a huge desire to gain. He once fought in LH, and showed nothing. It will be more easier and profitable for him to Take belt in middleweight, avenge Strickland and beat Whittaker for the third time Cheesy

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Quote from: TopTort777 on July 03, 2024, 04:07:52 AM

(...)UFC dont want to see Ankalaev as a champ. Because he is to kind, to shy, to boring, not a media personality. Instead, they would make Pereira try to become a first guy who won belts in 3 weight divisions. However, that is not going to happen, as Bones let Pereira use his kickboxing voodoo. It will be a first round submission.

What I got from the post-event interviews with Alex/Dana, is that Ankalaev is next in line.
It might not generate a huge revenue but it will be interesting.
Sure, Ankalaev winning would be the worst scenario for the UFC, but let's not forget this is also a sport, not just entertainment, so the "boring" guys also have to get their chances.

And I have a feeling we're more likely to see Pereira Vs Adesanya 3 (in the 205) before we see Pereira fighting Jones/Aspinall.

Quote from: tokeweed on July 03, 2024, 06:49:30 AM

Anyway, did you guys watch the on sale press conference for 305? I was like not really that excited for DDP vs Adesanya. But after watching the intense and may mention hilarious face off, oh my... I'm all for the match up! LFG! Cheesy

They were like two little kids who are about to fight in the playground.

OK, you sparked my interest. I'll go and watch it now.

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I don't understand why Diego Lopes' fight didn't have the bonus of the night, as well as Poatan and Jiri's fight. Maybe the UFC spent a lot of money on these two fights and limited themselves to the agreed amount haha

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They brought out that real African issue but didn't make emotions burst. There's not much tension up there and DDP didn't even go dark to hit the nerve like he did to Sean. I was waiting for what issue he would throw at Izzy nothing so far even the hentai. But the staredown is serious.

Quote from: TopTort777 on July 03, 2024, 04:07:52 AM

And if he really wants big money, he should finish Chandler and call out for McGregor Cheesy

Imho Ankalaev would not get Pereira. UFC dont want to see Ankalaev as a champ. Because he is to kind, to shy, to boring, not a media personality. Instead, they would make Pereira try to become a first guy who won belts in 3 weight divisions. However, that is not going to happen, as Bones let Pereira use his kickboxing voodoo. It will be a first round submission.

Pereira hasn't fought someone like Jones so that going to be a big puzzle for him when they fight. Tom is not getting the belt easily, Dana is just not letting Jones go despite not being around anymore. The belt wasn't stripped either.

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Quote from: cabron on July 02, 2024, 12:51:55 PM

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And as for Prochazka, it looks like he isn't as good as what everyone thought him to be.

Or could it be that Pereira is really that good?

It's possible that Jiri failed to prepare himself mentally. It's not easy after losing to the same guy by TKO not that long ago. Jan Blachowicz said he knew Prochazka would lose after he saw him smiling at Pereira before the fight, something he would never do in his previous fights. A little detail like that can be very telling.

As for Ige Vs Lopes, they're both ranked 13th and 14th respectively, I don't think the ranking has yet been updated after the event, so they'll probably switch places. Career-wise, accepting that fight was a great move for both of them, Dana White sang some praises for them both in the post-fight conference and said he'll do anything for them. So likely both of them will get a chance to face higher-ranked opponents in their next fights.

That could be it too. Would love to see Pereira go up against a guy who's good at wrestling and a tough Russian dude who happens to have the name Ankalaev. Lolol. I think he's the only guy next in line before he moves up to heavyweight to take on all comers or maybe go straight to Jon Jones even. That would be something especially if Jones wins vs Aspinall and makes it looks easy.

As for Diego Lopez's next fight, I think after what he was shown against Ige he needs to prove himself vs somebody lower in the rankings... Like a rematch vs Elvoev. Pretty sure Evloev would like to run it back after what happened in the first match. Cheesy

Ankalev already said he would fight Pereira and would not wrestle him when they fight. Grin

Jiri maybe is not really that good at taking down opponents but when he tried it recently, what Pereira did was just level down with him and throw jabs to his face. Pereira could also do this to all the wrestlers he'll meet in the octagon. Preventing them from trying. If the level of wrestling is like Islam kind, Pereira will be beaten badly.

If Pereira already wants to make big money, he would be skipping Ankalev and just fight in the HW either Aspinall or Jones if possible. This would be his best route and then retire.

Oh... Wrong strat for Ankalaev. Lolol. And taking down Pereira doesn't have to be a double leg or a single leg. Ankalev likes doing body lock take downs. So there's no dipping the head there.

Anyway, did you guys watch the on sale press conference for 305? I was like not really that excited for DDP vs Adesanya. But after watching the intense and may mention hilarious face off, oh my... I'm all for the match up! LFG! Cheesy

They were like two little kids who are about to fight in the playground.

UFC 305: On Sale Press Conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KyXy10ZmmY

I feel like Adesanya's time away from the cage might have done him some good.

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Quote from: cabron on July 02, 2024, 12:51:55 PM

Quote from: tokeweed on July 02, 2024, 07:52:06 AM

Quote from: pawel7777 on July 01, 2024, 04:29:08 PM

Quote from: tokeweed on July 01, 2024, 08:03:04 AM

And as for Prochazka, it looks like he isn't as good as what everyone thought him to be.

Or could it be that Pereira is really that good?

It's possible that Jiri failed to prepare himself mentally. It's not easy after losing to the same guy by TKO not that long ago. Jan Blachowicz said he knew Prochazka would lose after he saw him smiling at Pereira before the fight, something he would never do in his previous fights. A little detail like that can be very telling.

As for Ige Vs Lopes, they're both ranked 13th and 14th respectively, I don't think the ranking has yet been updated after the event, so they'll probably switch places. Career-wise, accepting that fight was a great move for both of them, Dana White sang some praises for them both in the post-fight conference and said he'll do anything for them. So likely both of them will get a chance to face higher-ranked opponents in their next fights.

That could be it too. Would love to see Pereira go up against a guy who's good at wrestling and a tough Russian dude who happens to have the name Ankalaev. Lolol. I think he's the only guy next in line before he moves up to heavyweight to take on all comers or maybe go straight to Jon Jones even. That would be something especially if Jones wins vs Aspinall and makes it looks easy.

As for Diego Lopez's next fight, I think after what he was shown against Ige he needs to prove himself vs somebody lower in the rankings... Like a rematch vs Elvoev. Pretty sure Evloev would like to run it back after what happened in the first match. Cheesy

Ankalev already said he would fight Pereira and would not wrestle him when they fight. Grin

Jiri maybe is not really that good at taking down opponents but when he tried it recently, what Pereira did was just level down with him and throw jabs to his face. Pereira could also do this to all the wrestlers he'll meet in the octagon. Preventing them from trying. If the level of wrestling is like Islam kind, Pereira will be beaten badly.

If Pereira already wants to make big money, he would be skipping Ankalev and just fight in the HW either Aspinall or Jones if possible. This would be his best route and then retire.

And if he really wants big money, he should finish Chandler and call out for McGregor Cheesy

Imho Ankalaev would not get Pereira. UFC dont want to see Ankalaev as a champ. Because he is to kind, to shy, to boring, not a media personality. Instead, they would make Pereira try to become a first guy who won belts in 3 weight divisions. However, that is not going to happen, as Bones let Pereira use his kickboxing voodoo. It will be a first round submission.

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Quote from: tokeweed on July 02, 2024, 07:52:06 AM

Quote from: pawel7777 on July 01, 2024, 04:29:08 PM

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And as for Prochazka, it looks like he isn't as good as what everyone thought him to be.

Or could it be that Pereira is really that good?

It's possible that Jiri failed to prepare himself mentally. It's not easy after losing to the same guy by TKO not that long ago. Jan Blachowicz said he knew Prochazka would lose after he saw him smiling at Pereira before the fight, something he would never do in his previous fights. A little detail like that can be very telling.

As for Ige Vs Lopes, they're both ranked 13th and 14th respectively, I don't think the ranking has yet been updated after the event, so they'll probably switch places. Career-wise, accepting that fight was a great move for both of them, Dana White sang some praises for them both in the post-fight conference and said he'll do anything for them. So likely both of them will get a chance to face higher-ranked opponents in their next fights.

That could be it too. Would love to see Pereira go up against a guy who's good at wrestling and a tough Russian dude who happens to have the name Ankalaev. Lolol. I think he's the only guy next in line before he moves up to heavyweight to take on all comers or maybe go straight to Jon Jones even. That would be something especially if Jones wins vs Aspinall and makes it looks easy.

As for Diego Lopez's next fight, I think after what he was shown against Ige he needs to prove himself vs somebody lower in the rankings... Like a rematch vs Elvoev. Pretty sure Evloev would like to run it back after what happened in the first match. Cheesy

Ankalev already said he would fight Pereira and would not wrestle him when they fight. Grin

Jiri maybe is not really that good at taking down opponents but when he tried it recently, what Pereira did was just level down with him and throw jabs to his face. Pereira could also do this to all the wrestlers he'll meet in the octagon. Preventing them from trying. If the level of wrestling is like Islam kind, Pereira will be beaten badly.

If Pereira already wants to make big money, he would be skipping Ankalev and just fight in the HW either Aspinall or Jones if possible. This would be his best route and then retire.

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Now, there is no doubt that Poatan is the best of all time. He is already better than fighters considered "GOATS" who fought against random people, who had not even won the belt.

This is history before us

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Quote from: pawel7777 on July 01, 2024, 04:29:08 PM

Quote from: tokeweed on July 01, 2024, 08:03:04 AM

And as for Prochazka, it looks like he isn't as good as what everyone thought him to be.

Or could it be that Pereira is really that good?

It's possible that Jiri failed to prepare himself mentally. It's not easy after losing to the same guy by TKO not that long ago. Jan Blachowicz said he knew Prochazka would lose after he saw him smiling at Pereira before the fight, something he would never do in his previous fights. A little detail like that can be very telling.

As for Ige Vs Lopes, they're both ranked 13th and 14th respectively, I don't think the ranking has yet been updated after the event, so they'll probably switch places. Career-wise, accepting that fight was a great move for both of them, Dana White sang some praises for them both in the post-fight conference and said he'll do anything for them. So likely both of them will get a chance to face higher-ranked opponents in their next fights.

That could be it too. Would love to see Pereira go up against a guy who's good at wrestling and a tough Russian dude who happens to have the name Ankalaev. Lolol. I think he's the only guy next in line before he moves up to heavyweight to take on all comers or maybe go straight to Jon Jones even. That would be something especially if Jones wins vs Aspinall and makes it looks easy.

As for Diego Lopez's next fight, I think after what he was shown against Ige he needs to prove himself vs somebody lower in the rankings... Like a rematch vs Elvoev. Pretty sure Evloev would like to run it back after what happened in the first match. Cheesy

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Of course Dana would do anything for them, as they made lots of noise in media. As well as that Pereiras knockout saved the event. Months ago UFC 303 was planned to be one of the coolest events of 2024. Return of Conor ! What we got in main card? Pereira KOed Jiri. Fili and Swanson showed a nice fight in prelims. Pretty much it. Huge event turned into average. However, like I've told, after UFC 299 and UFC 300 it will be hard for UFC to impress us. Hope that UFC 304 wont disappoint.

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Quote from: tokeweed on July 01, 2024, 08:03:04 AM

And as for Prochazka, it looks like he isn't as good as what everyone thought him to be.

Or could it be that Pereira is really that good?

It's possible that Jiri failed to prepare himself mentally. It's not easy after losing to the same guy by TKO not that long ago. Jan Blachowicz said he knew Prochazka would lose after he saw him smiling at Pereira before the fight, something he would never do in his previous fights. A little detail like that can be very telling.

As for Ige Vs Lopes, they're both ranked 13th and 14th respectively, I don't think the ranking has yet been updated after the event, so they'll probably switch places. Career-wise, accepting that fight was a great move for both of them, Dana White sang some praises for them both in the post-fight conference and said he'll do anything for them. So likely both of them will get a chance to face higher-ranked opponents in their next fights.

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Or Pereira is way to good Grin

Of course it was hard for Prochazka to fight Pereira and his dark spirit. 2 vs 1 isnt fair Grin

Btw, UFC decided not to re-sign Andrei Arlovki contract. Finally a former champ can have a rest at his 45 and enjoy life with his 3 kids. Been in business since 1999. Set some records and it is time to say goodbye;)

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^ It just shows that Lopes isn't really that ready to fight the top guys in the UFC. And I haven't checked yet but I don't think Ige isn't really that high in the list in his weight class. Prolly in the top 10 but outside the top 5..? And he is one weight class below Lopes.

And if it was Ortega in there, sure it might be a close fight... But then again Ortega is the underdog. And as for Prochazka, it looks like he isn't as good as what everyone thought him to be.

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Quote from: tokeweed on June 30, 2024, 07:45:41 AM

^ If Ortega was healthy I think he would've won vs Lopes who couldn't even finish or make it 30 - 27 against Ige who went in there on like a few hours short notice.

Naaah, it would be a submission definitely. Ortega is good with triangles, Lopes with armbars. They will both try to use their favourite move, until one caught opponent into something unique. Lopes surprised with performance. Won first round, spent to much stamina in second round, went to third round so tired, that in the end Ige even managed to give him a good beating at the fence. I think Lopes low performance was due to stress from unknown future. First he cut to 66kg when Ortega was 70. In the end he fought in 74kg. I suppose body wasnt ready enough to lose so much and regain quick and a lot.

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I called it, didn't I?

Yeap, you predicted it. But it is Jiris fault and special move, to act unpredicted. This time what he did on the last seconds of first round? Tried that left knee or left overhand (dont remember frankly and cant rewarch at work), leaving right hand low. Got punished immediately.

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I called it, didn't I?
I knew Jiri's low hands would get him in big trouble in this one. There are fighters you can fight against with your hands low, and there are fighters you can't. Pereira is in the 2nd category.
I feel sorry for Jiri and don't want to be too harsh to him, but he was not properly prepared. He looked chaotic and there was no sign of any game plan. Even when it comes to that knock-out kick, he did see it coming but tried to block it in a very odd way, as in he fought it was a body kick and tried to catch Pereira's leg. That's a rookie mistake, but it's possible he was still dazed after that knock-down at the end of round one.

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Quote from: tokeweed on June 30, 2024, 07:45:41 AM

^ If Ortega was healthy I think he would've won vs Lopes who couldn't even finish or make it 30 - 27 against Ige who went in there on like a few hours short notice.

Here are the results. Things to take note are Ian Machado Garry was shown to be not as good as everybody thinks he is. He's a couple of fights away of getting his first loss. Payton Talbott could be a legit prospect. We need to see him tested against a tough vet. Tsuruya isn't as good as where the bookies lined him at. And Simon could go on a skid.

And I also thought he would KO Ortega and whoever is the replacement, Dan must have been the craziest to accept a 3-hour notice for a fight. It was said he was the one who requested to be the replacement since he is in shape and can fight right away. If they fight up to R5, Deigo will lose. At the last minutes of the R3, I think is enough to say Ige can win the fight because Deigo is exhausted already.

When it comes to speed Garry has nothing to show but he was successful in taking control of Page in all rounds he managed to TD Page.

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^ If Ortega was healthy I think he would've won vs Lopes who couldn't even finish or make it 30 - 27 against Ige who went in there on like a few hours short notice.

Here are the results. Things to take note are Ian Machado Garry was shown to be not as good as everybody thinks he is. He's a couple of fights away of getting his first loss. Payton Talbott could be a legit prospect. We need to see him tested against a tough vet. Tsuruya isn't as good as where the bookies lined him at. And Simon could go on a skid.

Alex Pereira def Jiri Prochazka TKO R2
Diego Lopes def Dan Ige UD
Roman Dolidze def Anthony Smith UD
Macy Chiasson def Mayra Bueno Silva TKO R2
Ian Machado Garry def Michael Page UD
Joe Pyfer def Marc-Andre Barriault KO R1
Andre Fili def Cub Swanson SD
Jean Silva def Charles Jourdain KO R2
Payton Talbott def Yanis Ghemmouri KO R1
Gillian Robertson def Michelle Waterson Gomez UD
Martin Buday def Andrei Arlovski SD
Rei Tsuruya def Carlos Hernandez UD
Vinicius Oliveira def Ricky Simon UD

UFC 303: Post Fight Press Conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BeckXNvu2Q

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