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34 years for a heavyweight isnt much. Many heavyweight fighters in roster are 40+, some managed to become champions at 40+.

Since we all love McGregor so much, I think we have missed the news when he has bought bare knuckle fighting championship promotion (at least I dont remember discussing it here). And he has already managed to fire Mike Perry (former UFC fighter, former king of violence champ (analogue of BMF probably lol Cheesy

)) for fighting against Jake Paul Cheesy

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Quote from: TopTort777 on July 10, 2024, 04:27:28 AM

Pereira is not #2 in pound-for-pound ranking Cheesy

Bones is only third. Yesterday while watching YouTube, I have caught myself thinking where is Gane? He has started so active career. Every year he fought 2-3 times. Now, half of 2024 has passed and there is not even a single rumour about his next fight, not a single word. I dont remember him being injured or have controversies with UFC. Neither he wasnt released from UFC.

Cyril Gane was one of my favorite fighters when he debuted in the UFC. But it's a shame that Gane had a short career because he started his MMA career at the age of 28. I think this is really crazy because within 3 - 4 years of starting to train in MMA, Gane managed to enter the ranks of top level fighters in the UFC's heavyweight class. Yes, I also thought, where is Gane and why didn't I get any news about him? Did two defeats in the fight for the heavyweight belt make him mentally down? Gane is 34 years old and that means his chances of becoming champion will be even more difficult. Gane has the talent to be a fighter but unfortunately he still has to learn wrestling and that will take a long time. Gane's 2 losses to Ngannou and Jones were also due to wrestling and the ground game. I think everyone would be very disappointed if they lost twice in such an important battle.

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I missed the first three matches on the event as I thought it would start at 7:00pm ET... :-/ So I started with Maverick vs Barbosa which was meh... But then starting at Kelleher vs Gibson the event was a banger. Even the one that ended with a decision was a banger. Overall not bad for a Fight Night at the Apex imho.

Here are the results...

Virna Jandiroba def Amanda Lemos SUB R2
Steve Garcia def Choi Seung-woo TKO R1
Kurt Holobaugh def Kaynan Kruschewsky UD
Bruno Gustavo da Silva def Cody Durden TKO R2
Choi Doo-ho def Bill Algeo TKO R2
Hyder Amil def Lee Jeong-yeong TKO R1
Cody Gibson def Brian Kelleher SUB R1
Miranda Maverick def Dione Barbosa UD
Trey Ogden def Loik Radzhabov UD
Luana Carolina def Lucie Pudilova UD
Thomas Petersen def Mohammed Usman UD

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Quote from: TopTort777 on July 19, 2024, 08:59:31 AM

The more I look on UFC 304 card, the more redicilous the fight between Aspinall and Blaydes is Cheesy

He is defending interim title Cheesy

This is even sound stupid. What next, defending a place in card with a none aired and official fight against someone? Cheesy

Just realized, that we read Blaydes surname the same as "blades", and his nickname is razor, which seems to be one and the same thing Cheesy

Curtis "Blade" Blaydes Cheesy

But if we're talking about the money Tom Aspinall will be receiving, holding an interim championship strap will pay Aspinall higher than not holding any belt. And it's a PPV event, he'll get PPV points too since he has a belt. It's better than nothing.

And Aspinall prolly wants the match up since the previous match ended up with Aspinall blowing up his knee. I'm really curious how Aspinall matches up with Blaydes and if Aspinall could defend TD's from a guy who's good at wrestling.

Here are the weigh in results.

Amanda Lemos (116) vs Virna Jandiroba (115.5)
Seungwoo Choi (145) vs Steve Garcia (144.5)
Kurt Holobaugh (155) vs Kaynan Kruschewsky (154)
Cody Durden (125.5) vs Bruno Silva (126)
Bill Algeo (146) vs Dooho Choi (146)
Hyder Amil (145) vs Jeong Yeong Lee (145.5)
Cody Gibson (136) vs Brian Kelleher (136)
Dione Barbosa (125.5) vs Miranda Maverick (125.5)
Trey Ogden (156) vs Loik Radzhabov (155.5)
Luana Carolina (125.5) vs Lucie Pudilova (126)
Thomas Petersen (258.5) vs Mohammed Usman (236.5)

Park vs Tavares has been cancelled.

UFC Fight Night: Official Weigh In
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WE7iHZolK7c

UFC Fight Night: Face Off
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxaABnYB-tg

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Quote from: TopTort777 on July 19, 2024, 03:04:31 AM

How come Poirier plan to have a fight against Nate Diaz, if Diaz is no longer in UFC. And it seems, that Diaz was a pain Danas ass. I dont remember those two were in good relationships, and UFC were giving Diaz opponents he did not really wanted to fight. Ferguson who is old. Almost knocked out Edwards, but decided to slap and take a laugh instead (Diaz was thrown on Edwards like an easy fight). Not to mention he barely fought last years. No way UFC would sign Diaz for 3 fight contract again.

It's not like they have to offer him a 3 fight contract. They could easily do that as a one time thing only, if they wanted to.
But I'd be disappointed if Poirier fights Diaz as his final opponent. Even young Diaz was not on the level of the current top 5 lightweights. I know Poirier will be desperate to win it, but that's aiming too low.

Quote from: notblox1 on July 19, 2024, 09:34:46 AM

Are you talking about last boxing fight between Daz and Masvidal?
I didnt hear anything about that until now, this is $9 million owed to him by Solomon Engel and his company Fanmio.
Everything about that guy sounds fake and shady Sad

Yup, he's not getting that $9 mills as the promoter is rumoured to be going bankrupt to avoid the lawsuit.
The $9 mills figure was unrealistic anyway, there's no way boxing bout between 2 retired mma fighters would generate revenue high enough to justify it. I don't think Engel ever intended to pay him at all.

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I want to see Dustin Poirier in octagon again after losing big fights against Makhachev and Gaethje, this divison is packed.

Quote from: pawel7777 on July 18, 2024, 04:25:59 PM

Diaz apparently didn't get paid for his last fight against Masvidal (and is suing the organiser), so who knows, he might go for that if the money is right.

Are you talking about last boxing fight between Daz and Masvidal?
I didnt hear anything about that until now, this is $9 million owed to him by Solomon Engel and his company Fanmio.
Everything about that guy sounds fake and shady Sad

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The more I look on UFC 304 card, the more redicilous the fight between Aspinall and Blaydes is Cheesy

He is defending interim title Cheesy

This is even sound stupid. What next, defending a place in card with a none aired and official fight against someone? Cheesy

Just realized, that we read Blaydes surname the same as "blades", and his nickname is razor, which seems to be one and the same thing Cheesy

Curtis "Blade" Blaydes Cheesy

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Quote from: TopTort777 on July 18, 2024, 09:25:34 AM

What about Gane and Volkov? Even if then met and Aspinal won via armabar, they possible can meet again, if (I suppose) Volkov would fight and win Gane. He would be on a series of 5 wins, quite a nice chance for a title fight. I think we wont live till we see Bones vs Aspital. I feel like Bones wants to finish Miocic (as an easy opponent), and retire. With his low motivation to fight, I dont see Bones being into business for a long period.

If you asked me that before Volkov vs Pavlovic, I'd so wtf are you thinking. But after seeing how well Volkov did vs Pav, yeah that for sure is an intruiging match up.

And yeah, I'm also starting to think that we won't see Jones vs Aspinall too or Jones is prolly playing mind games. Dunno... I guess only time will tell.

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Quote from: cabron on July 03, 2024, 11:16:37 AM

Pereira hasn't fought someone like Jones so that going to be a big puzzle for him when they fight. Tom is not getting the belt easily, Dana is just not letting Jones go despite not being around anymore. The belt wasn't stripped either.

Poatan has become one of the "GOATS" in the UFC after successfully winning championship titles in 2 divisions. Alex Pereira is even said to be able to win 3 divisions because he has a unique body. It is very difficult for fighters to fight in 2 divisions because of the problem of a fighter's weight. Moreover, fighting in 3 divisions will require a fighter to cut or gain extreme weight.

But like you said there are a lot of great fighters in HW. Pereira must really prepare great endurance and stamina to fight Jones. He also had to prepare for better Jiujitsu and wrestling skills. Jones is a smart fighter who can exploit his opponent's weaknesses. Like when he beat Gane with his wrestling. I think even Jones will be able to win the match against Miocic because of the fact that Miocic is already 40 years old and of course Jones can take the match to the ground and wrestle which will drain a lot of Miocic's stamina.

Is it just me or would you guys also rather watch Aspinall vs Pereira than Jones vs Pereira? And it would prolly work out on the end since Jones is still recovering from his shoulder injury and he'll be fighting Miocic when he gets back. Aspinall on the other hand will have no opponent after his match vs Blaydes. So why not Aspinall vs Pereira for the interim heavyweight strap? Winner gets Jones. That will make a lot of money too, so pretty sure there's a high possibility both guys will take it... I hope. Lol dunno tho.

But yeah, what do you guys think?

In an interview, Pereira says it doesn't make sense for him to chase an interim belt when he could go directly for a HW belt. Too confident to get that belt but if Tom wasn't booked to fight Jones, Pereira might not also get that shot. But business-wise I think Pereira would be Dana's choice between Tom and Pereira to fight Jones.

What about Stipe? If Chandler gets a reward for waiting Conor, Stripe would probably get a reward as well. This is money wasted for nothing to which Daana would rather be seeing Stipe vs Jones. Make Jones inactive again after this fight. Grin

Anka though is marketing himself over and over to fight Pereira standing. This is more exciting to watch by Nov-Dec since Pereira is planning to waste time too.

Hah! And that def means one thing... He wants to fight the guy who'll bring him a lot more money and way up in the P4P rankings. It's really the only thing to do. Losing vs Aspinall has huge downside with not a lot of upside if Pereira wins.

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How come Poirier plan to have a fight against Nate Diaz, if Diaz is no longer in UFC. And it seems, that Diaz was a pain Danas ass. I dont remember those two were in good relationships, and UFC were giving Diaz opponents he did not really wanted to fight. Ferguson who is old. Almost knocked out Edwards, but decided to slap and take a laugh instead (Diaz was thrown on Edwards like an easy fight). Not to mention he barely fought last years. No way UFC would sign Diaz for 3 fight contract again.

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There's some news from Dustin Poirier on his future plans. Apparently he doesn't want to retire yet, he wants to do it with a win. He called out Nate Diaz, who, to me, would be a rather disappointing opponent for Dustin's last fight, but he's still popular and can sell a fight so not a bad call.
Diaz apparently didn't get paid for his last fight against Masvidal (and is suing the organiser), so who knows, he might go for that if the money is right.

A list of opponents that Poirier said he'd be happy to fight: Nate Diaz, Conor McGregor, Alexander Volkanovski, Justin Gaethje, Max Holloway, Charles Oliveira, and Colby Covington

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/ufc/dustin-poirier-retirement-next-fight-ufc-b2581158.html

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Quote from: tokeweed on July 18, 2024, 07:16:35 AM

Quote from: Hanadawa on July 17, 2024, 10:57:07 PM

Quote from: cabron on July 03, 2024, 11:16:37 AM

Pereira hasn't fought someone like Jones so that going to be a big puzzle for him when they fight. Tom is not getting the belt easily, Dana is just not letting Jones go despite not being around anymore. The belt wasn't stripped either.

Poatan has become one of the "GOATS" in the UFC after successfully winning championship titles in 2 divisions. Alex Pereira is even said to be able to win 3 divisions because he has a unique body. It is very difficult for fighters to fight in 2 divisions because of the problem of a fighter's weight. Moreover, fighting in 3 divisions will require a fighter to cut or gain extreme weight.

But like you said there are a lot of great fighters in HW. Pereira must really prepare great endurance and stamina to fight Jones. He also had to prepare for better Jiujitsu and wrestling skills. Jones is a smart fighter who can exploit his opponent's weaknesses. Like when he beat Gane with his wrestling. I think even Jones will be able to win the match against Miocic because of the fact that Miocic is already 40 years old and of course Jones can take the match to the ground and wrestle which will drain a lot of Miocic's stamina.

Is it just me or would you guys also rather watch Aspinall vs Pereira than Jones vs Pereira? And it would prolly work out on the end since Jones is still recovering from his shoulder injury and he'll be fighting Miocic when he gets back. Aspinall on the other hand will have no opponent after his match vs Blaydes. So why not Aspinall vs Pereira for the interim heavyweight strap? Winner gets Jones. That will make a lot of money too, so pretty sure there's a high possibility both guys will take it... I hope. Lol dunno tho.

But yeah, what do you guys think?

In an interview, Pereira says it doesn't make sense for him to chase an interim belt when he could go directly for a HW belt. Too confident to get that belt but if Tom wasn't booked to fight Jones, Pereira might not also get that shot. But business-wise I think Pereira would be Dana's choice between Tom and Pereira to fight Jones.

What about Stipe? If Chandler gets a reward for waiting Conor, Stripe would probably get a reward as well. This is money wasted for nothing to which Daana would rather be seeing Stipe vs Jones. Make Jones inactive again after this fight. Grin

Anka though is marketing himself over and over to fight Pereira standing. This is more exciting to watch by Nov-Dec since Pereira is planning to waste time too.

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What about Gane and Volkov? Even if then met and Aspinal won via armabar, they possible can meet again, if (I suppose) Volkov would fight and win Gane. He would be on a series of 5 wins, quite a nice chance for a title fight. I think we wont live till we see Bones vs Aspital. I feel like Bones wants to finish Miocic (as an easy opponent), and retire. With his low motivation to fight, I dont see Bones being into business for a long period.

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Quote from: Hanadawa on July 17, 2024, 10:57:07 PM

Quote from: cabron on July 03, 2024, 11:16:37 AM

Pereira hasn't fought someone like Jones so that going to be a big puzzle for him when they fight. Tom is not getting the belt easily, Dana is just not letting Jones go despite not being around anymore. The belt wasn't stripped either.

Poatan has become one of the "GOATS" in the UFC after successfully winning championship titles in 2 divisions. Alex Pereira is even said to be able to win 3 divisions because he has a unique body. It is very difficult for fighters to fight in 2 divisions because of the problem of a fighter's weight. Moreover, fighting in 3 divisions will require a fighter to cut or gain extreme weight.

But like you said there are a lot of great fighters in HW. Pereira must really prepare great endurance and stamina to fight Jones. He also had to prepare for better Jiujitsu and wrestling skills. Jones is a smart fighter who can exploit his opponent's weaknesses. Like when he beat Gane with his wrestling. I think even Jones will be able to win the match against Miocic because of the fact that Miocic is already 40 years old and of course Jones can take the match to the ground and wrestle which will drain a lot of Miocic's stamina.

Is it just me or would you guys also rather watch Aspinall vs Pereira than Jones vs Pereira? And it would prolly work out on the end since Jones is still recovering from his shoulder injury and he'll be fighting Miocic when he gets back. Aspinall on the other hand will have no opponent after his match vs Blaydes. So why not Aspinall vs Pereira for the interim heavyweight strap? Winner gets Jones. That will make a lot of money too, so pretty sure there's a high possibility both guys will take it... I hope. Lol dunno tho.

But yeah, what do you guys think?

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I remember I was saying that Ankalaev will be Pereiras kryptonite. My thoughts were, Ankalaev; Dagestani; wrestling; no chances Pereira, as a kickboxer, would survive. But, I was wrong. Check out Ankalaev profile, take down attempt success 30%, and lower % of them were really useful. And recently I saw Pereira winning some (probably local) bjj championship. And remembered that he hangs out and trains with Texeira. No chance Ankalaev would win.

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Quote from: cabron on July 03, 2024, 11:16:37 AM

Pereira hasn't fought someone like Jones so that going to be a big puzzle for him when they fight. Tom is not getting the belt easily, Dana is just not letting Jones go despite not being around anymore. The belt wasn't stripped either.

Poatan has become one of the "GOATS" in the UFC after successfully winning championship titles in 2 divisions. Alex Pereira is even said to be able to win 3 divisions because he has a unique body. It is very difficult for fighters to fight in 2 divisions because of the problem of a fighter's weight. Moreover, fighting in 3 divisions will require a fighter to cut or gain extreme weight.

But like you said there are a lot of great fighters in HW. Pereira must really prepare great endurance and stamina to fight Jones. He also had to prepare for better Jiujitsu and wrestling skills. Jones is a smart fighter who can exploit his opponent's weaknesses. Like when he beat Gane with his wrestling. I think even Jones will be able to win the match against Miocic because of the fact that Miocic is already 40 years old and of course Jones can take the match to the ground and wrestle which will drain a lot of Miocic's stamina.

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^ You didn't see the whole thing. At R1 Costa who is a decent fighter himself was dominating Garcia. At R2 you could see in Garcia's face that he was really annoyed by it, so what he did was at the very first second of the round he just walked straight to Costa and threw a couple of punches from a standing position that looked like he was just a regular guy walking fast in town. Cheesy

Garcia wasn't even in fighting stance, he just walked straight. Cheesy

It was so funny.

I tried looking for the replay at MMA Core, but it's not there anymore for some reason.

UFC Free Fight: Lemos vs Rodriguez
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UFC Free Fight: Jandiroba vs Herrig
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Quote from: tokeweed on July 16, 2024, 07:21:11 AM

^ The match ups I like at first glance are Steve Garcia vs Choi Seung-woo and the main event. The fighters I'd like to watch are Garcia and Lemos from what the match ups mentioned then Park Jun-yong after his loss, Bill Algeo after his loss and I guess Cody Durden vs Bruno Silva could be a decent match up.

And Brad Tavares is a live dog here mostly due to size. Park Jun-yung is kinda small for his weight class.

Have you watched Steve Garcia's last fight? Cheesy

Nope. I dont know. I dont remember Cheesy

You made me google that. Turns out his last fight was in December 2023 against a "guy without page in wiki" Cheesy

Even though it was an elbow KO, which is always something nasty (and I used to remember such nasty, bloody things), I dont remember his fight. Since there was no bonus... I found that fight on ufc (https://www.ufc.com/video/135393). Nice beating.

P.S. Not surprised Bones in in troubles again Cheesy

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Apparently Jon Jones got charged with two cases of misdemeanour in an incident from few months back involving drug-testing agent.
I don't think that's anything serious that could get him suspended, and from the video he posted it does indeed look like it might have been blown out of proportions:
https://youtu.be/14RB6Ybw54E?si=QG_BvTvhf4HlkU0H&t=315

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^ The match ups I like at first glance are Steve Garcia vs Choi Seung-woo and the main event. The fighters I'd like to watch are Garcia and Lemos from what the match ups mentioned then Park Jun-yong after his loss, Bill Algeo after his loss and I guess Cody Durden vs Bruno Silva could be a decent match up.

And Brad Tavares is a live dog here mostly due to size. Park Jun-yung is kinda small for his weight class.

Have you watched Steve Garcia's last fight? Cheesy

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Any thought on next event? I have market couple of fights that I would watch, but not the whole event. Seems another filler before next big event (or big disappointment if Belal wins lol:D). Tavares vs Park, Durden vs Silva, and I think I am going to watch Radzhabov vs Ogden only because he was rather good at PFL and nearly became champ. All other fighters are unknown to me.

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