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Quote from: YuginKadoya on August 18, 2020, 05:05:47 AM

Marlon Vera Def Sean O'Malley -For me, 2 out of 3 bet win is a great thing I really think that 1 lost is a coincidental one and because of an injury during the fight, well this is just my opinion and no hard feeling with the fans of Marlon Vera

This is the second time he is having the same injury during a fight and i think the body of Sean O'Malley is brittle and could get injured easily and in this fight Marlon Vera was smart enough to take advantage of the situation and finish the fight while his other opponent Andre Soukhamthath failed to take advantage of the injury.

The calf kick is effective against some fighters and i have seen the same injury for Michael Chandler during the fight and he is usually a durable fighter but the kick on the calf by Primus had the same affect like we saw with Sean O' Malley and for any fight fans of Michael Chandler we might see him in the UFC as he is a free agent and he is meeting with Dana White and i hope to see him in the UFC.

Quote from: ene1980 on August 18, 2020, 06:19:18 PM

Anthony Johnson is returning and the announced that he will be going to the light heavyweight division because Jones said he is vacating the belt and DC retired.

Anthony Johnson is planning to return for over a year and early he was said to be coming back as a heavyweight fighter and he is massive and how can he reduce that kind of muscle to get back to light heavyweight.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on August 17, 2020, 09:56:50 PM

@ene1980. Francis Ngannou might be another hype train. It was shown once before in his fight versus Stipe and it might be shown again if Dana feeds Jon Jones to him hehe.

Jon Jones has left his title in light heavyweight.

Francis Ngannou has nuclear power in his hands, even if he is sloppy if he connects one shot then the fight is over, in the fight against Stipe Miocic took some big shots and he took a long break because of the impact of that fight and when he returned one shot from DC knocked him out and i now think that it is because of the heavy shots he took from the Ngannou fight.

Jon Jones has gone insane as he is vacating the belt even before getting a heavyweight title shot nor getting an opponent, looks like he is bored fighting at light heavyweight or may be he wants to shine when DC decides to retire and he wanted to divert the attention to him Cheesy

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Anthony Johnson is returning and the announced that he will be going to the light heavyweight division because Jones said he is vacating the belt and DC retired.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on August 17, 2020, 09:56:50 PM

@ene1980. Francis Ngannou might be another hype train. It was shown once before in his fight versus Stipe and it might be shown again if Dana feeds Jon Jones to him hehe.

Jon Jones has left his title in light heavyweight.

Jones had been ruling the roost of the light heavyweight division in his second title reign. Throughout the UFC 252 broadcast, “Bones” had fight fans buzzing with his social media posts expressing interest in a move to heavyweight. Jones took to his Twitter account to reveal that he has informed the UFC that he’s relinquishing his 205-pound gold.

“Just got off the phone with @Ufc, today I confirm that I’m vacating the light heavyweight championship. It’s officially up for grabs. It’s been an amazing journey, sincere thank you to all my competition, Ufc and most importantly you fans.”

Source https://www.mmanews.com/jon-jones-says-vacated-ufc-light-heavyweight-title/

I read that today too, he mad a great play that will get him a lot of money if I interpreted it correctly.

He relinquished his belt and said he is going to enjoy his vacation and not fight, which put put Dana in a spot where he does not want to be. Meaning UFC without Jones Cheesy

So he forced Dana's hand that way and probably immediately got a good offer on the table for the next fight in heavyweight division Cheesy

Pretty intelligent play if I'm correct in my interpretation Cheesy

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on August 18, 2020, 05:05:47 AM

Marlon Vera Def Sean O'Malley - For me, 2 out of 3 bet win is a great thing I really think that 1 lost is a coincidental one and because of an injury during the fight, well this is just my opinion and no hard feeling with the fans of Marlon Vera,

Stipe Miocic Def Daniel Cormier - I can really say is Cormier really did everything he could to win but for me, he got talent as a commentator than a fighter but then again respect for giving a great fight in fighting Miocic.

Jairzinho Rozenstruik Def Junior Dos Santos - At first we can see the spinning kick of Dos Santos connecting to Rozenstruik, but Jairzinho got the opportunity and seize the moment and waiting for the right timing he could deliver it to Dos Santos Jairzinho Rozenstruik is pretty much to hard to take down.

Sean got hurt in the back of the knee and actually I saw a video about his injury which might be true and you should check it too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5tdgQAZuVY

Basically he lost the feeling on the leg after getting hit on some nerve and hence twisted his feet after that.

What I do not like was how Marlon Vera was shouting like he knocked out Sean with a single punch and kept on saying idiotic things in the interview after that. I mean yes you win, but clearly because of the injury and have some calmness if not respect for the opponent.

Eye pokes again in the Miocic vs Cormier fight so I don't know what to say about that fight since Miocic has done it only this time while Cormier gets to feel how it hurts when he used to do it against Miocic in previous fights.

JDS was looking good but Rozen's power was too much.

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Marlon Vera Def Sean O'Malley - For me, 2 out of 3 bet win is a great thing I really think that 1 lost is a coincidental one and because of an injury during the fight, well this is just my opinion and no hard feeling with the fans of Marlon Vera,

Stipe Miocic Def Daniel Cormier - I can really say is Cormier really did everything he could to win but for me, he got talent as a commentator than a fighter but then again respect for giving a great fight in fighting Miocic.

Jairzinho Rozenstruik Def Junior Dos Santos - At first we can see the spinning kick of Dos Santos connecting to Rozenstruik, but Jairzinho got the opportunity and seize the moment and waiting for the right timing he could deliver it to Dos Santos Jairzinho Rozenstruik is pretty much to hard to take down.

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@ene1980. Francis Ngannou might be another hype train. It was shown once before in his fight versus Stipe and it might be shown again if Dana feeds Jon Jones to him hehe.

Jon Jones has left his title in light heavyweight.

Jones had been ruling the roost of the light heavyweight division in his second title reign. Throughout the UFC 252 broadcast, “Bones” had fight fans buzzing with his social media posts expressing interest in a move to heavyweight. Jones took to his Twitter account to reveal that he has informed the UFC that he’s relinquishing his 205-pound gold.

“Just got off the phone with @Ufc, today I confirm that I’m vacating the light heavyweight championship. It’s officially up for grabs. It’s been an amazing journey, sincere thank you to all my competition, Ufc and most importantly you fans.”

Source https://www.mmanews.com/jon-jones-says-vacated-ufc-light-heavyweight-title/

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on August 16, 2020, 10:15:45 PM

Also, Khabib has said that his next opponent after Justin Gaethje would be anyone who wins versus Dustin Poirier. I speculate Dana now is calling his main pet Conor McGregor to rematch Dustin hehehehe.

Khabib is really smart as he knows that a fight against Conor McGregor could help Dustin Poirier make a fortune and if he makes a stipulation like this McGregor will be forced to fight Poirier and i feel like McGregor is avoiding tough fights in the division.

DC was slow throughout the fight and the age was showing up or there was a lack of training as he was struggling to put his domination by wrestling Stipe.

Two undefeated tasted defeat in recent fight cards Sean O'Malley suffered injury during the fight while Edmen Shahbazyan took a beating. Is there any hype trains in the upcoming fight cards where we could see another aspect.

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UFC on ESPN: Munhoz vs. Edgar

Date: August 23, 2020
Preliminary Card : SUN, AUG 23 / 3:30 AM EEST
Main Card: SUN, AUG 23 / 12:30 AM EEST
Venue: UFC APEX Las Vegas, Nevada, United States

Main card (ESPN)
Bantamweight: Pedro Munhoz vs. Frankie Edgar
Light Heavyweight: Ovince Saint Preux    vs. Alonzo Menifield
Light Heavyweight: Marcin Prachnio vs. Mike Rodríguez
Welterweight: Daniel Rodriguez vs. Takashi Sato
Preliminary card (ESPN)
Women's Strawweight: Amanda Lemos    vs. Mizuki Inoue
Lightweight: Austin Hubbard vs. Joe Solecki
Women's Flyweight: Mariya Agapova vs. Shana Dobson
Welterweight: Dwight Grant vs. Jared Gooden
Light Heavyweight: Jorge Gonzalez vs. Isaac Villanueva
Bantamweight: Timur Valiev vs. Mark Striegl

source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_on_ESPN:_Munhoz_vs._Edgar

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It appears that Dana has created a new storyboard for his other pet Daniel Cormier hehe. He said that Daniel had an eye problem before the fight that might have compromised his performance. He also said that he reckons Daniel might not retire after the loss.

Also, Khabib has said that his next opponent after Justin Gaethje would be anyone who wins versus Dustin Poirier. I speculate Dana now is calling his main pet Conor McGregor to rematch Dustin hehehehe.

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Stipe Miocic vs Daniel Cormier: One of the best UFC Trilogy I've ever watched in my life. Props for the both fighters displaying an intense fight.

Marlon Vera vs Sean O'Malley: The hype is already over and the Suga show got cancelled too early. I hope O'Malley will comeback with tremendous wins with his upcoming fights.

Jairzinho Rozenstruik vs Junior dos Santos: Watch out for Rozenstruik he's coming for the belt. Before that will happen I would like to see first Stipe Miocic vs Francis Ngannou for the Heavy Weight Champion, maybe soon.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on August 16, 2020, 01:50:59 AM

Finally DC can retire and get back to his family. He looks more like a family guy to me than as a fighter frankly. Not the best performance to end a career, but surely a great fight.
If he continues to fight, who would be his next opponent?

To go the distance against the champion and the one who faced Francis Ngannou without much trouble you have to give that to Daniel Cormier to fight at the top and still hand around the best at 41 years old and it is not a small feat. The only fight Daniel Cormier would return could be against Brock Lesnar which could be a really big fight and if that is not available he will retire for good and he had an great career in two divisions.

Here is the results.

Some unexpected upsets especially Sean O’Malley and Herbert Burns.

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Finally DC can retire and get back to his family. He looks more like a family guy to me than as a fighter frankly. Not the best performance to end a career, but surely a great fight.
If he continues to fight, who would be his next opponent? Either someone not from a top and that fight might be boring and not look impressive to be his “last fight in career”, or he might face someone like Ngannou and that fight might not end well for DC.

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And now the main event. I am rooting for DC to win and retire.

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One hell of a war for the main event and Stipe Miocic retained the belt and Daniel Cormier should retire as he is not able to fight like he used to and age has caught up with him and Stipe Miocic controlled majority of the fight.

Agree that DC needs to retire. His reflexes is not the same before and also he is not on his prime anymore. He might get a chance to win if he successfully take down stipe and also if his eyes is not poked badly. His eyes was badly injured in the second half of the match. Many players surely loss on this game because DC has the upper hand in terms of betting odds and yet he was completely dominated on the fight.

I can’t say that they show an impressive match. Actually I enjoy more on watching there undercard matches which results to more KO/TKO.

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^^^ I am really disappointed with Herbert Burns who missed weight and he was not even competitive in the fight against Daniel Pineda who was controlling when the fight went to the ground and on the fight and Burns gassed out trying to improve his positions and he failed miserably on the ground.

Sean O'Malley was a unfortunate one as he injured during the fight and it looks like he broke his right leg and Marlon Vera seeing that took the opportunity and went for the finish, if not it would be a great fight and i was rooting for Sean O'Malley to win but it was the worst ways to get defeated.

And now the main event. I am rooting for DC to win and retire.

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One hell of a war for the main event and Stipe Miocic retained the belt and Daniel Cormier should retire as he is not able to fight like he used to and age has caught up with him and Stipe Miocic controlled majority of the fight.

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Take JOHN DODSON over Merab Dvalishvili (10:10p.m., Saturday, August 15th)

Take DANIEL PINEDA over Herbert Burns (10:35p.m., Saturday, August 15th)

Take JUNIOR DOS SANTOS over Jairzinho Rozenstruik (11:00p.m., Saturday, August 15th)

Take MARLON VERA over Sean O'Malley ((11:25p.m., Saturday, August 15th)

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Few more hours left till the main thing. It will be tough to watch Stipe Miopic, like every fight was, but hope his immigrant mentality kicks in at he right time and he goes after DC this time from the get go. He looked a bit to calm to me so far and I'm a bit worried he might struggle again at the beginning of the fight.

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Quote from: tokeweed on August 14, 2020, 07:52:59 AM

^ Yup. Cormier is also 41. He'll prolly gas eventually no matter how in shape he is... Just like the last bout.

And follow Miocic at IG. He's leaner and could be lighter on his feet to avoid just standing there in front of Cormier like what happened the last time.

It's Dos Santos to win for me. Roz for all his power just doesn't throw enough. Aaand don't forget, Roz just got starched by Ngannou three months ago. I think he needs to give fighting a rest a bit longer before going back in there.

Some vids...

UFC 252: Embedded 4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeqNGzsOEaw

UFC 252: Press Conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8DGsM46CxE

DC looks beef up on this video and Miocic really is leaner and might be faster than Cormier, and Sean O'Malley could doing some practice on the ground submissions base on his interview with DC praising this kid, well Miocic is a great guy but seeing Miocic could make you wonder if Cormier can make a win this time that is why my bet in on him.

And Rozenstruik might Stached by Francis Ngannou back then but I feel like this Dos Santos fight could be different I sure feel that it will be Roz going out the winner.

Quote from: eaLiTy on August 14, 2020, 12:36:40 PM

Marlon Vera is the toughest opponent Sean O'Malley is facing in his career and his two losses in the amateur bout was by submission and Marlon Vera does have some slick submissions and never lost a fight by knockout. I am going with Sean O'Malley because of his striking skills.

Sean O'Malley should stick to his Striking skill and what he does best, but he surely like how submission could offer a different feeling for him because he like jiu jitsu that he's willing to try and do submission than he's usual forte that he does.

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^ Cool thanks.

Anyway, TJ Brown missed weight ugh... I got some action riding on him. I hope the botched weight cut is not too bad on his conditioning.

Here are the weigh ins.

Stipe Miocic (233) vs Daniel Cormier (236)
Sean O’Malley (136) vs Marlon Vera (136)
Junior dos Santos (238.5) vs Jairzinho Rozenstruik (254)
Herbert Burns (149.5)* vs Daniel Pineda (146)
John Dodson (136) vs Merab Dvalishvili (136)
Jim Miller (156) vs Vinc Pichel (156)
Felice Herrig (116) vs Virna Jandiroba (115.5)
T.J. Brown (146.5)* vs Daniel Chavez (146)
Livia Renata Souza (155.5) vs Ashley Yoder (115.5)
Chris Daukaus (241) vs Parker Porter (264.5)
Kai Kamaka III (145.5) vs Tony Kelley (145.5)

*Herbert Burns and TJ Brown missed weight.

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Quote from: Bttzed03 on August 11, 2020, 10:09:59 AM

Quote from: tokeweed on August 11, 2020, 08:59:38 AM

~ BJJ Scout: Preview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4KYztZNdAw

Edit: The BJJ Scout vid is really good. Watch eeet!

This is Gold. Where did you find this? This is the first time I've seen someone really breakdown DC's dirty boxing and it made me appreciate his versatility even more. I agree that he will rely on his wrestling more than his boxing for the third fight and will probably win by submission.

If you want a channel that has great breakdowns you should definitely check out Brendan Doorman, he is my favorite guy.

This is his channel:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxXlAxx7YY93xWYRiNnhTqg

And here is the video about DC and Stipe's last fight, if you like eye poking of Cormier you won't like this breakdown, I personally love it and happy that is was finally addressed by someone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBcJonsnGMc

I would be so happy if Stipe would walk in the octagon with glasses to troll Cormier even more, same as he did so far.

Quote from: tokeweed on August 14, 2020, 01:42:08 PM

^ Weigh ins done 30 mins ago. Cormier is leeaannerrr at 236... Way leaner than the last fight. I think he weighed around 250 or more then. Ugh, kinda worried about my Miocic bet now. Lolol.

And Miocic is leaner too as expected. Weighed 230 from 242.

Will post results and face off vids later. But if somebody else could do it, that would be nice. Thanks.

Edit: Miocic weighed in at 242 for the first fight, 230 for the second fight and 233 coming in for this bout. So no big change there.

Cormier... I got a baaad feeling he'll rag doll Miocic around the cage.

Face of vid to help you out, while I'm already at it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7bVufzIXvo

Weigh in vid:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UQRisGRKC0

See the glasses Grin

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^ Weigh ins done 30 mins ago. Cormier is leeaannerrr at 236... Way leaner than the last fight. I think he weighed around 250 or more then. Ugh, kinda worried about my Miocic bet now. Lolol.

And Miocic is leaner too as expected. Weighed 230 from 242.

Will post results and face off vids later. But if somebody else could do it, that would be nice. Thanks.

Edit: Miocic weighed in at 242 for the first fight, 230 for the second fight and 233 coming in for this bout. So no big change there.

Cormier... I got a baaad feeling he'll rag doll Miocic around the cage.

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