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August 15, 2019, 05:31:12 PM
UFC 241 Embedded: Vlog Series - Episode 4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2dFg6W9BpA

UFC 241 Embedded: Vlog Series - Episode 5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcK_Rs3ykBY
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August 15, 2019, 08:56:45 AM
^  Not 'anyone'...  c'mooon.  Grin  But yeah, I get what you mean.  
Within his own weight division of course  Cheesy


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UFC 241:  Embedded Episode 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TTBm773MjM
Pettis looks bigger here. I'm not sure if he is fit enough to go toe-to-toe with Nate for five rounds. If this goes the distance, Nate may steal the fight in the later rounds.
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August 15, 2019, 07:49:12 AM
^  Not 'anyone'...  c'mooon.  Grin  But yeah, I get what you mean. 

Anyway, like krach said, leg kicks are gonna be a huge huge factor for Pettis' victory.  It's gonna hurt Diaz and limit his movement, esp at the later rounds and make him easier to hit.

UFC 241:  Embedded Episode 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TTBm773MjM
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August 14, 2019, 01:26:51 PM
Planning, huh? He should think a million times again before deciding to enter Heavyweight because it is a whole new different level. The contenders there can knock out opponents with just one punch and most of them are as tall as him thus having a significant advantage for him was so slim. But it was interesting tho, I wonder what would it be like if Jones got knocked out. Lol jk.
You completely misunderstood my comment. I was referring to the division he is ruling and not the heavyweight.


I am really looking forward to the Daiz vs. Pettis fight. That being said I think it is a hard fight for betting. Since Diaz has not fought in so long, it is hard to figure out where he is, but we do know that he stays in shape, and that he wanted this fight, he was offered some other fights in the past that he rejected. That being said Pettis is a tough style match up for him. Diaz has always had a hard time checking leg kicks, remember how well Conner used them against him in the second fight? I also doubt that Diaz is going to take Pettis down, which would be a good option for him imo, but still I doubt he will go for that. Diaz is going to have to walk down Pettis and make him fight backwards, it might turn out similar to the Condit vs Diaz fight a while back, with Pettis winning via the judges and having much more volume hit while both of them doing some damage. If I was going to bet on that fight I would take "fight goes the distance".
That is definitely a fight to watch. It's more interesting for me than the title fight.
Ring rust doesn't really apply to Nate since he always stays in shape especially his cardio. He can literally fight anyone in the division on a short notice if he wishes to. There's a chance that Pettis can finish Nate and that is to follow Josh Thompson's strategy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHZF9c9Q9I0
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August 14, 2019, 08:32:46 AM
I am really looking forward to the Daiz vs. Pettis fight. That being said I think it is a hard fight for betting. Since Diaz has not fought in so long, it is hard to figure out where he is, but we do know that he stays in shape, and that he wanted this fight, he was offered some other fights in the past that he rejected. That being said Pettis is a tough style match up for him. Diaz has always had a hard time checking leg kicks, remember how well Conner used them against him in the second fight? I also doubt that Diaz is going to take Pettis down, which would be a good option for him imo, but still I doubt he will go for that. Diaz is going to have to walk down Pettis and make him fight backwards, it might turn out similar to the Condit vs Diaz fight a while back, with Pettis winning via the judges and having much more volume hit while both of them doing some damage. If I was going to bet on that fight I would take "fight goes the distance".

I have not decided on the other fights yet.
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August 14, 2019, 08:14:32 AM
Enjoy.  Wink

UFC 241:  Embedded Episode 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNuj1GpF5tw

UFC 241:  Embedded Episode 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ychwYRkGm0
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August 14, 2019, 06:15:42 AM
Looking forward to this weekend  Grin

I'm actually quite a fan of Miocic, he's the only heavyweight champion that I can remember defending his title three times (Overeem, Santos, and Ngannou) but I think he's going to be outmatched against Cormier. DC has faster hands and although Miocic has a boxing pedigree he can't hope to compete on the wrestling side.

Going to go with Cormier to win via KO, probably in the 2nd or 3rd.

As for Pettis v Diaz I'm fairly confident in Diaz taking the win, but it's probably going to be more of a drawn-out fight.

Pettis is arguably the harder hitter, but Diaz has speed on his side and tends to lure opponents into the kind of slug-fest he thrives in.

I'm going for a Diaz victory via decision, unless Pettis can utilise his BJJ/wrestling skills to bring Diaz to ground.

You can check out our odds for the weekend's action here.

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August 14, 2019, 02:22:30 AM
~snip
We started this debate about the natural weight class of Valentina Shevchenko being 125 pounds, all the fighters in a respective weight class cut a lot of weight to get to that division limit and Valentina Shevchenko weighs around 135 pounds even when she is not fighting and hence you cannot call that her weight class to fight, to make things clear to you Amanda Nunes when she is not fighting weighs over 160 pounds and during training camp starts her weight cutting process to come down to 135 pounds on the day of weigh ins. I can give you many examples of fighters if you want, Meisha Tate walks around 158 pounds before a camp and so does Ronda Rousey and so does all the fighters who cut down to 135 pounds  Valentina Shevchenko was fighting all throughout her career without cutting much weight, hope you understand now what i am talking.
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August 14, 2019, 02:02:35 AM
The good stuff!  Enjoy the vids!  And be sure to make your bets before you watch Countdown and Inside the Octagon.  Those vids could affect your bets...  But be sure to watch the Free Fight ones and more past fights if you could find them.  They could help.

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UFC 241:  Countdown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfVXdC44jlU

UFC 241:  Inside the Octagon - Cormier vs Miocic 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akeWhGX9EoM

UFC 241:  Free Fight - Cormier vs Miocic 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wdos_SUKtQk

UFC 241:  Free Fight - Pettis vs Thompson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdP44UT_SjA

UFC 241:  Free Fight - Diaz vs Mcgregor 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDFmYiK-5QI

Thanks for posting all of these  Cool   
I will bet on DC to defeat the giant STIPE again probably by the same fashion of KO!
Bad news is I wont be posting any pictures of the women's fighters since they arent really such a site to see  Lips sealed
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August 13, 2019, 10:47:17 PM
but he is a durable fighter and we might see a war as both are stand up fighers.
No doubt about it! Diaz is a durable fighter but more appropriate to say that he got a very hard face. His face can endure a lot of punches and it seems that he feels nothing  even if he is in blood bath already. Aside from his cocky attitude, this thing what I like the most from him. Actually, Pettis got the same factor so let's expect a bloody war from their match Grin.
As he said in one of his interviews, he plans to "attack" the division. I think that also means he will wipe out the entire division.
Planning, huh? He should think a million times again before deciding to enter Heavyweight because it is a whole new different level. The contenders there can knock out opponents with just one punch and most of them are as tall as him thus having a significant advantage for him was so slim. But it was interesting tho, I wonder what would it be like if Jones got knocked out. Lol jk.
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August 13, 2019, 07:00:20 PM
The good stuff!  Enjoy the vids!  And be sure to make your bets before you watch Countdown and Inside the Octagon.  Those vids could affect your bets...  But be sure to watch the Free Fight ones and more past fights if you could find them.  They could help.
Thank you for sharing the links about the fight but it is not an easy fight to predict, DC is really good at heavyweight and i know he is undefeated in the division and last time Stipe got caught by an upper hand from the clinch and this time around i am sure that the fight will last much longer and Stipe will make sure to keep a distance and not to get inside the clinch and get knocked out again  Cheesy.
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August 13, 2019, 03:36:32 PM
I'm sorry but you're wrong. Bantamweight in MMA is 57 to 61kg
Let me clarify that 1 KG is 2.20462 pound and you are proclaiming that bantamweight (135 pound division) in MMA is 57 to 61 in kilogram, it is an international metric and i am not sure which university you studied those metrics Roll Eyes. You have the wiki link and you make your own calculation, but make sure you input the correct international metric while converting pound and kilogram and not your own calculation  Tongue. I am following shevchenko's career right from her Muay Thai days and i said that 125 pound is her true division because of that and not because of her MMA career while she fought mainly at bantamweight because there was no 125 pound division in MMA when she transitioned to MMA.
LOL I didn't make my own calculation, why I would do that? It's just written here: "competitors between 126 and 135 lb (57 and 61 kg) as bantamweights"
"The bantamweight limit, as defined by the Nevada State Athletic Commission[2] and the Association of Boxing Commissions[3] is 135 lb (61.36 kg)."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bantamweight_(MMA)
or here: "Women's Bantamweight Championship 126 to 135 lb (57 to 61 kg)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UFC_champions
So she obviously fought during most of her career at a weight above the flyweight class,
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August 13, 2019, 01:40:39 PM
I'm sorry but you're wrong. Bantamweight in MMA is 57 to 61kg
Let me clarify that 1 KG is 2.20462 pound and you are proclaiming that bantamweight (135 pound division) in MMA is 57 to 61 in kilogram, it is an international metric and i am not sure which university you studied those metrics Roll Eyes. You have the wiki link and you make your own calculation, but make sure you input the correct international metric while converting pound and kilogram and not your own calculation  Tongue. I am following shevchenko's career right from her Muay Thai days and i said that 125 pound is her true division because of that and not because of her MMA career while she fought mainly at bantamweight because there was no 125 pound division in MMA when she transitioned to MMA.
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August 13, 2019, 12:07:12 PM
Win or lose, I think a third fight between Jones and DC will still happen. None in the division can challenge Jones like DC.
The problem is that i like Daniel Cormier as a fighter and i expected it to be a really close fight when they fought, but Jon Jones dominated the first fight and even took Cormier down a few times and he was dominating every round, the second fight he finished him with head strike and ground and pound and it was interesting till that moment but it was not even a challenge for Jones, the only challenge would be if they fight in the heavyweight division as Cormier is not cutting weight and has knockout power too and that will be a contest for Jones.
Wasn't Jones juiced up during their second fight? I do not consider that as an easy win. I don't expect Jones moving up unless he gets bored. As he said in one of his interviews, he plans to "attack" the division. I think that also means he will wipe out the entire division. Comier still wants that fight to happen and he knows he'll have to cut weight for that to happen.
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August 13, 2019, 11:51:35 AM
Win or lose, I think a third fight between Jones and DC will still happen. None in the division can challenge Jones like DC.
The problem is that i like Daniel Cormier as a fighter and i expected it to be a really close fight when they fought, but Jon Jones dominated the first fight and even took Cormier down a few times and he was dominating every round, the second fight he finished him with head strike and ground and pound and it was interesting till that moment but it was not even a challenge for Jones, the only challenge would be if they fight in the heavyweight division as Cormier is not cutting weight and has knockout power too and that will be a contest for Jones.
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August 13, 2019, 11:27:18 AM
As far 241, I got DC and Pettis winning, but hope im wrong and Nate wins. I want DC winning for another go at Bones on HW.
Win or lose, I think a third fight between Jones and DC will still happen. None in the division can challenge Jones like DC.
I also want Pettis to win over Diaz, I agree with what many observers say that he has more skills. We may see a second stoppage to Nate's career. 
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August 13, 2019, 10:11:47 AM
I'm having a doubt that DIaz can pull this off because it's very hard to be in good shape and fighting mindset once again. I mean, we all knew that Diaz was gone for almost 3 years and that's not a joke. I think he should triple his effort if he really want to beat Pettis.
Pettis is coming off from a huge victory over Stephen Thompson and he is confident going into this bout again Nate Diaz who is coming after a long lay off and ring rust is a real thing, but he is a durable fighter and we might see a war as both are stand up fighers.


HW means Heavyweight? Why that division? Jones is on the Light Heavyweight, maybe it's just a mistake Grin. Anyway, DC vs Bones is not so special already, much better would be DC against Lesnar! What do you guys think?
Jones Jones moving up in heavyweight to take the belt from Cormier will be a much bigger fight that Cormier coming down to light heavy weight because we have already seen two fights and we all know the result. Lesnar will not be back until he gets any exception from USADA Cheesy.
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August 13, 2019, 09:10:11 AM
I have to disagree with you. According to her records, she was fighting in the bantamweight division before coming to the UFC. She was fighting in the bantamweight class since 2010 at least, so 5years before joining UFC
So it must be some kind of russian urban legends I guess. I hope Amanda Nunes will accept to go down to flyweight class to try to take her belt and win the championship of a 3rd division.  
You can disagree all you want. Lets take the women's MMA, you are telling all the MMA matches before joining UFC, have you watched any Flyweight weight fights in any of those competitions, you will not find because there was no flyweight division for women's MMA but there was a Bantamweight division in every organization and even UFC opened the flyweight division recently, if there is no flyweight division where do you think she will fight, do you know that even when she was fighting in Bantamweight division in MMA she was fighting in her natural weight class of 57 to 60 Kg in Mua Thai and Kick Boxing, hope you are aware that 60 KG is not Bantamweight. So i hope the Russian urban legend is clear  Tongue.
I'm sorry but you're wrong. Bantamweight in MMA is 57 to 61kg and if you look carefully at her records in Kickboxing and Muay Thai https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valentina_Shevchenko_(fighter)
 you can see she only fought in the -57kg weight class until 2009. After that she only fought in -60kg and -63.5kg classes. That is above the MMA flyweight class which is 53 to 57kg... So her natural weight class since 2009 was clearly bantamweight (and even featherweight) class and not flyweight. So the speculations saying she dropped to flyweight because she couldn't beat Nunes are not unfounded.
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August 13, 2019, 08:19:18 AM
The good stuff!  Enjoy the vids!  And be sure to make your bets before you watch Countdown and Inside the Octagon.  Those vids could affect your bets...  But be sure to watch the Free Fight ones and more past fights if you could find them.  They could help.

Enjoy!  Smiley

UFC 241:  Countdown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfVXdC44jlU

UFC 241:  Inside the Octagon - Cormier vs Miocic 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akeWhGX9EoM

UFC 241:  Free Fight - Cormier vs Miocic 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wdos_SUKtQk

UFC 241:  Free Fight - Pettis vs Thompson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdP44UT_SjA

UFC 241:  Free Fight - Diaz vs Mcgregor 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDFmYiK-5QI
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August 13, 2019, 07:23:38 AM
I have to disagree with you. According to her records, she was fighting in the bantamweight division before coming to the UFC. She was fighting in the bantamweight class since 2010 at least, so 5years before joining UFC
So it must be some kind of russian urban legends I guess. I hope Amanda Nunes will accept to go down to flyweight class to try to take her belt and win the championship of a 3rd division.  
You can disagree all you want. Lets take the women's MMA, you are telling all the MMA matches before joining UFC, have you watched any Flyweight weight fights in any of those competitions, you will not find because there was no flyweight division for women's MMA but there was a Bantamweight division in every organization and even UFC opened the flyweight division recently, if there is no flyweight division where do you think she will fight, do you know that even when she was fighting in Bantamweight division in MMA she was fighting in her natural weight class of 57 to 60 Kg in Mua Thai and Kick Boxing, hope you are aware that 60 KG is not Bantamweight. So i hope the Russian urban legend is clear  Tongue.
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