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Topic: █████ ***** THE ZEROCASH SOURCE - Truly anonymous coin ***** █████ - page 2. (Read 53586 times)

legendary
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Value will be measured in sats
how to mine this thing plz?

mainnet has not been released yet... you can only mine test tokens on the testnet
legendary
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full member
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I salivate at the mouth when I think about Zcoin. I didn't miss the boat when it came to Bitcoin ( I have a FinTech friend who "put me on" to it) . This go-round I want to get in on the ground floor. Fingers crossed for September 2016.

As fellow crypto enthusiast, if your looking for an anon coin offering fungibility definitely check out Vcash while your waiting for September to roll around.
newbie
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I salivate at the mouth when I think about Zcoin. I didn't miss the boat when it came to Bitcoin ( I have a FinTech friend who "put me on" to it) . This go-round I want to get in on the ground floor. Fingers crossed for September 2016.
sr. member
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Z.cash, looks pretty dope. I'm checking this out as we speak Cool
legendary
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In Satoshi I Trust
Cryptocurrency: The Policy Challenges of a Decentralized Revolution - Panel IV — The 4th Amendment Challenge

http://www.cato.org/multimedia/events/cryptocurrency-policy-challenges-decentralized-revolution-panel-iv-4th-amendment
legendary
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In Satoshi I Trust
hero member
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Cryptorials.io
Looking forward to more information being available about this. 10% founders reward seems quite high though.
legendary
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In Satoshi I Trust
Zooko Wilcox-O’Hearn: Zcash – An Open Financial System With Privacy

For Zooko Wilcox-O’Hearn, part of the cypherpunk movement since the early 1990s, the vision of a decentralized financial system that has both openness and privacy has existed since long before Bitcoin. After many failed attempts, Bitcoin proved that that vision could be achievable. But Bitcoin also failed to deliver on the privacy features as blockchain analysis allows tracing movements and deanonymizing many users.

https://epicenterbitcoin.com/podcast/122/
legendary
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Value will be measured in sats
newbie
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is it possible to use gpu minig?
legendary
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Anyone know the basic info such as:

- mining algo
- pools
- link to miner
- coin totals
- premines
- block reward structure
- block time
- PoW or PoS


legendary
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To weird to live To rare to die
I read an article on Flipboard about Zcash is this different coin than zerocoin?

It's by the same people, so I assume it's the same thing and going to be the real implementation.

>All of the authors of the Zerocash protocol are on our team, which includes most of the creators of the Zerocoin protocol and zk-SNARKs themselves.

Is there a thread on bitcointalk about zcash

Get the links to some BCT threads here:

https://forum.z.cash/t/fundamental-challenges/39

Also see this new thread:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/thoughts-on-zcash-1342065
thanks
sr. member
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I read an article on Flipboard about Zcash is this different coin than zerocoin?

It's by the same people, so I assume it's the same thing and going to be the real implementation.

>All of the authors of the Zerocash protocol are on our team, which includes most of the creators of the Zerocoin protocol and zk-SNARKs themselves.

Is there a thread on bitcointalk about zcash

Get the links to some BCT threads here:

https://forum.z.cash/t/fundamental-challenges/39

Also see this new thread:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/thoughts-on-zcash-1342065
legendary
Activity: 1414
Merit: 1001
To weird to live To rare to die
I read an article on Flipboard about Zcash is this different coin than zerocoin?

It's by the same people, so I assume it's the same thing and going to be the real implementation.

>All of the authors of the Zerocash protocol are on our team, which includes most of the creators of the Zerocoin protocol and zk-SNARKs themselves.

Is there a thread on bitcointalk about zcash
hero member
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ヽ( ㅇㅅㅇ)ノ ~!!
I read an article on Flipboard about Zcash is this different coin than zerocoin?

It's by the same people, so I assume it's the same thing and going to be the real implementation.

>All of the authors of the Zerocash protocol are on our team, which includes most of the creators of the Zerocoin protocol and zk-SNARKs themselves.
legendary
Activity: 1414
Merit: 1001
To weird to live To rare to die
I read an article on Flipboard about Zcash is this different coin than zerocoin?
sr. member
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So what is the right approach to "marketing" monero? Scams are always going to win. Backdoored OSes are always going to be more popular. Linus didn't necessarily fight to win. He fought to fight and considered it a genuine marathon. He will win, long after naysayers don't exist in this planet. The metrics by which he "lost" in the short term are not what he fought to begin with, it's inner naiveté of the junta he chose not to exploit.

Satoshi absolutely went wrong with the economics of Bitcoin. I wish we could go back in time and argue with him and amend the economic modalities of Bitcoin.

I've also noticed that Monero has been inserting itself in numerous Wikipedia pages. Here is an example:

Other platforms which refute Zooko's conjecture, include: Twister and Monero OpenAlias.

Monero seems to have not understood that willynilly promotion is useless without a marketing strategy.

I seem to remember that FluffyPony ran down the list of thing Monero wanted achieve marketwise as a complete privacy hub (I'm sure hub is not the word he used), but the point is that private transactions and openalias are parts of a broader design. Judging its marketing based on what's transpired so far is akin to judging Netflix when they were only doing mail order--there's a plan and specific market (those looking for end-to-end privacy solutions), so you are most likely jumping the gun on any pronouncements of failure. 

I will need to stop thinking and writing about Monero because I need to work on my own project and its marketing. I know you in the Monero/Aeon community didn't originally ask me to do this, and I am the one who forcefully interjected my opinions about Monero. So thus let me try to wrap up with one more summary of what I have been suggesting upthread.

It seems to me very likely that fluffypony's market strategy is not well focused on what corporations might want from block chain privacy. I have stated my logic on Zerocash technology upthread and the reasons corporations are IMO more apt to embrace it; whereas, they currently do not embrace public block chains and I've been told that mentioning public block chains is a good way to get ignored by corporations.

I believe a privacy focused block chain should not be in any discussions whatsoever on a daily basis in a speculation forum. What corporations want to be associated with that! Not to mention how it influences what the lead developers think about and are focused on on a daily basis. I see your lead developer smooth of Aeon in these forums constantly talking about exchange market movements. Corporations would want him to be buried away in a lab accomplishing technology quietly and appearing in public to make announcements of milestones and broad technological goals and achievements.

In other words, if you want to be a long-term focused open source project, then you need to be aligned with the interests of long-term oriented corporations as Linux is. And then you need to produce the best technology for them, e.g. probably Zerocash based (contingent on your careful study).

Anonymity for the masses is nonsensical. I had to finally come to that realization myself. Corporations have a real business need to pay for privacy and public block chains promise more interoption and network effects than private databases. Also public block chains means that corporations don't fail when their partner corporation fails. In other words, just like the concept of open source in general, public block chains remove proprietary lockin failure modes. But corporations will not use public block chains if the privacy is not 100% certain. Period.

Sorry to say it probably means mostly restarting from scratch on a new code base. And it means broadening your perspective away from just crypto currency and including distributed databases and the economics thereof. For example in IoT, a parking meter needs to be paid.

It will require a deep rethink away from the delusion that you can build an anonymous coin for general use and you will all get rich over the long-term by buying low and selling high in a speculator market. I have explained upthread why an anonymous coin for general use makes no technological sense and has no markets. In short, the few individuals that would rely on it, would be risking jail time. Corporations don't risk jail time for using privacy on their data (especially if there is a viewkey when needed for regulatory oversight).

That is my gift to your community. Ignore it at your peril.
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