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Topic: █████ ***** THE ZEROCASH SOURCE - Truly anonymous coin ***** █████ - page 5. (Read 53579 times)

legendary
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Is there any way to mine or buy some zerocash? If not, whan can we do it roughly?

look at first page.
legendary
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Angel investor.
Is there any way to mine or buy some zerocash? If not, whan can we do it roughly?
legendary
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Money often costs too much.
Maybe I am naive, but I think they will find a way to setup Zerocash that people will be able to trust.
It still goes against the whole idea of cryptocurrencies being trustless...

Unless it is setup like not 20 people, but Everybody? Some arcane distributed calculation process that can be done like mining, running for some prolonged timespan. I'm not the expert on that, merely curious.

What I cannot believe is the single genius releasing his invention as a closed source download hosted on Mega, seriously.
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Re: Trust required for Zerocash setup





Maybe I am naive, but I think they will find a way to setup Zerocash that people will be able to trust.

It still goes against the whole idea of cryptocurrencies being trustless...
legendary
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legendary
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In Satoshi I Trust

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Maybe I am naive, but I think they will find a way to setup Zerocash that people will be able to trust.


thx for that piece CoinHoarder.

for my part, i knew that already. for me it sounds like the best way it can be done today but we still have to wait how this plays out in the end. i would like to have some more infos. maybe the dev-team needs a PR guy.
sr. member
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What's the likelihood of a coin implementing this? And which coin will it be? And why is it so difficult to implement?

its not possible to implement Zerocoin/Zerocash in a crappy altcoin because Zerocash is nearly build from scratch and in development since 2 years. you will not find an unknown developer who can do this in 2 weeks, dont be a fool. there were already several attempts to scam people.

Not true at all. Zerocoin was designed to work with Bitcoin. It was in fact a Bitcoin shuttle. Most of these "crappy" altcoins are based on dear old dad Bitcoin. So it can work as intended with Bitcoin and certainly with any of its direct descendants. The Libezero was posted public and released for other devs to use to make work with their coins. It says so on the Zerocoin and Zerocash web pages. Perhaps you should read up on the Zerocoin and Zerocash web pages. Contact someone like Ian M from their dev teams too.
Actually, what you say is only true for the original Zerocoin protocol of Miers et al. 2013, but not the Zerocash protocol of Ben-Sasson et al. 2014 (which is what the original post was referring to.).

It is easy to make this mistake, and Ben-Sasson et al. are to blame. In their Zerocash paper, they use the term "zerocoin", but this does not have the same meaning as "zerocoin" in Miers et al.

I suggest that you read the original papers. Their new combined "zerocash/zerocoin" website is really confusing.
legendary
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In Cryptocoins I Trust
Re: Trust required for Zerocash setup





Maybe I am naive, but I think they will find a way to setup Zerocash that people will be able to trust.
legendary
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In Satoshi I Trust
What's the likelihood of a coin implementing this? And which coin will it be? And why is it so difficult to implement?

its not possible to implement Zerocoin/Zerocash in a crappy altcoin because Zerocash is nearly build from scratch and in development since 2 years. you will not find an unknown developer who can do this in 2 weeks, dont be a fool. there were already several attempts to scam people.

Not true at all. Zerocoin was designed to work with Bitcoin. It was in fact a Bitcoin shuttle. Most of these "crappy" altcoins are based on dear old dad Bitcoin. So it can work as intended with Bitcoin and certainly with any of its direct descendants. The Libezero was posted public and released for other devs to use to make work with their coins. It says so on the Zerocoin and Zerocash web pages. Perhaps you should read up on the Zerocoin and Zerocash web pages. Contact someone like Ian M from their dev teams too.

yes its based on good old bitcoin and yes the first plan was to implement zerocoin into bitcoin but that never happened and will never happen. i know all that. i want to say that no little kid can add this technology to their crappy coin in some weeks. alot of people try to scam others when they say that.


why is your username "zerocashdev" ? it looks like you have nothing to do with Zerocoin or Zerocash right?

or who are you ? :

-   Eli Ben-Sasson (Technion)
-   Alessandro Chiesa (MIT)
-    Christina Garman (Johns Hopkins University)
-    Matthew Green (Johns Hopkins University)
-   Ian Miers (Johns Hopkins University)
-    Eran Tromer (Tel Aviv University)
-    Madars Virza (MIT)


my answer is: no one  Roll Eyes
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What's the likelihood of a coin implementing this? And which coin will it be? And why is it so difficult to implement?

its not possible to implement Zerocoin/Zerocash in a crappy altcoin because Zerocash is nearly build from scratch and in development since 2 years. you will not find an unknown developer who can do this in 2 weeks, dont be a fool. there were already several attempts to scam people.

Not true at all. Zerocoin was designed to work with Bitcoin. It was in fact a Bitcoin shuttle. Most of these "crappy" altcoins are based on dear old dad Bitcoin. So it can work as intended with Bitcoin and certainly with any of its direct descendants. The Libezero was posted public and released for other devs to use to make work with their coins. It says so on the Zerocoin and Zerocash web pages. Perhaps you should read up on the Zerocoin and Zerocash web pages. Contact someone like Ian M from their dev teams too.
legendary
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In Satoshi I Trust
What's the likelihood of a coin implementing this? And which coin will it be? And why is it so difficult to implement?

its not possible to implement Zerocoin/Zerocash in a crappy altcoin because Zerocash is nearly build from scratch and in development since 2 years. you will not find an unknown developer who can do this in 2 weeks, dont be a fool. there were already several attempts to scam people.
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What's the difference between Zerocoin and Zerocash?
sr. member
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English Motherfucker do you speak it ?
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When the coin is going to be launched?

Have read a little bit about the coin and it seems to me it has only pros and no cons. I am suspicious when there is no cons. Maybe I haven't just mentioned the disadvantages of the coin.
One thing I would like to know about Zerocash is if it's possible to view the balances or not at will?
In Moneros case you have a third key. Called viewkey meaning that all balances on all addresses are private - until you give them the viewkey. When you give someone the viewkey to one of your addresses/accounts, the address balance can be looked up on in a public block explorer.
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When the coin is going to be launched?

Have read a little bit about the coin and it seems to me it has only pros and no cons. I am suspicious when there is no cons. Maybe I haven't just mentioned the disadvantages of the coin.
sr. member
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A few coins are working on this. Seems its the holy grail of altcoins. I'd certainly buy a coin that had this implemented.
There are a lot of coins who claim they will implement Zerocoin, but Anoncoin is the only one who has proven that they are actually working on this. They have already generated and tested the RSA UFOs that will be used for the trustless setup up zerocoin, and there are numerous commits made at github over the past two months that you can inspect showing that progress is in fact being made.

If other coins implement zerocoin, I suspect that they will simply fork Anoncoin.
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A few coins are working on this. Seems its the holy grail of altcoins. I'd certainly buy a coin that had this implemented.
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What's the likelihood of a coin implementing this? And which coin will it be? And why is it so difficult to implement?
hero member
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Watch out for the "Neg-Rep-Dogie-Police".....
sr. member
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I know that there is no news, but....

Does anyone have any information on how they plan on choosing the Zerocash security parameters in a trustless manner?

I've seen a few crytpic tweets from the team about this, and it seems like they have some ideas, but it is not at all clear to me how they are going to do this in practice.
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