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Quote from: Victorybit1 on March 21, 2023, 11:21:15 AM

There is a particular gambling site I stumbled on. It was so obvious that they where manipulating the whole process. Some are programmed to favour only them but there are good number of gambling site that favours the players as well.

Always stake what you can afford to loss.

This is a business and sole aim of business is to make profit.

All gambling sites are favoring themselves, if they'll favor the gamblers then that means that at least they're giving some shot to their players. But that's nothing new, as all of them that has got a good reputation in the community do share the same chances that they provide to each of their players. It's a business as many have said and they need to make money but at the same time, it doesn't mean that they'll go wholly zero with the chances that they give to their players. Many still wins in casinos and they're go unnoticed because they just don't want to expose themselves but it's also known that, many are losing and that situation and result is very common for most gamblers.

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Quote from: Betwrong on March 18, 2023, 05:37:35 AM

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It's simple logic - casinos have the house edge, so regardless of how many hours you are gambling, you will still lose in the long run. You don't count your wins and losses per day but your overall performance. So, if you really want to know how you are doing, you need to record your ins and outs so you can calculate if you are in profit or not. ~

Casinos have the house edge, yes. Does that guarantee that you, as an individual, will lose "in the long run"? It depends on what "in the long run" means. In a thousand years of constant gambling - very likely. Within 20-30 years, I don't think so. I mean, you can lose all you have within one hour, but if we are talking about what is guaranteed, then, no, the house edge does not have as much power as is attributed to it by some gamblers.

That means that as long as we play what we are sure of is losing, because I don't think Anyone is going to play 20-30 years in a row every day, because they would have to have a lot of money or unless they make bets every day for Less than 1 dollar, And even though it is possible, it is very sad, what a player has in money can be Multiplied in a matter of seconds, what I think he Meant there is that even though he plays for a long time, that is, at 3-4 hours the probability is to lose.

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So any facts found in the gambling system according to the OP's statement are based on video reviews from YouTube, but we agree with your discussion above that we place gambling only as entertainment and not passive income, so we choose sports gambling because pure winnings are determined based on match scores and not from the casino system.

Yes, but bookmakers sometimes cheat, as well as the sports clubs themselves involved in match-fixing, you can also lose your money in sports betting as well as in online casino slot machines, provided that you really strive for a quick income.

Well, of course, if you do it moderately and under the mood, then yes, it can be fun.

You will definitely lose the money that you are destined to lose, no matter what you do, and if you are supposed to win, you will win even if there is an attempt to cheat by the bookmaker or anyone. We all know and understand that sports betting is more dependent on research and analysis than luck, but we also know that it is a part of gambling, and there is no win in gambling if there's no luck at all.

I think a bookmaker who cheats will eventually be out of business as they can't really hide that forever, and once they get success in cheating, they will definitely do it multiple times again and will be caught sooner or later. And the teams or clubs that get involved in match-fixing are also ruined slowly because we have seen in the past that no cheater can hide in the dark forever and they will have to be exposed some day.

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Quote from: Maslate on March 18, 2023, 07:06:46 AM

Quote from: Betwrong on March 18, 2023, 05:37:35 AM

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It's simple logic - casinos have the house edge, so regardless of how many hours you are gambling, you will still lose in the long run. You don't count your wins and losses per day but your overall performance. So, if you really want to know how you are doing, you need to record your ins and outs so you can calculate if you are in profit or not. ~

Casinos have the house edge, yes. Does that guarantee that you, as an individual, will lose "in the long run"? It depends on what "in the long run" means. In a thousand years of constant gambling - very likely. Within 20-30 years, I don't think so. I mean, you can lose all you have within one hour, but if we are talking about what is guaranteed, then, no, the house edge does not have as much power as is attributed to it by some gamblers.

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Quote from: Victorybit1 on March 21, 2023, 11:21:15 AM

There is a particular gambling site I stumbled on. It was so obvious that they where manipulating the whole process. Some are programmed to favour only them but there are good number of gambling site that favours the players as well.

Always stake what you can afford to loss.

This is a business and sole aim of business is to make profit.

Exactly, this is one thing some gamblers fail to realize, they wrongly assume or see online casinos as an easy way to make money, forgetting that online casinos are running a business, and the sole purpose of running a business is to make profit.

I am an advocate of fairness for the gamblers and the casino, but the reality remains that, there are some casinos that would never want to play fair, even at the detriment of their reputation.

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Quote from: Victorybit1 on March 21, 2023, 11:21:15 AM

There is a particular gambling site I stumbled on. It was so obvious that they where manipulating the whole process. Some are programmed to favour only them but there are good number of gambling site that favours the players as well.

Always stake what you can afford to loss.

This is a business and sole aim of business is to make profit.

Perhaps, there is some truth to it, but we should also be able to protect ourselves from these fraudulent gambling sites so that the casino does not fool us. But sadly, some people still end up being scammed by those scam casinos because they are tempted to get offers that are too good to be true. People don't see that they have exceeded their limits and continue gambling. This makes them fall for the scam and can't get their deposit money back because the casino doesn't want to know what happened to them. The casino only knows that their member has violated the rules and the casino closes the account.

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Quote from: Ebede on March 20, 2023, 04:44:13 PM

Gambling is a choice less we forgot that this companies are register with the appropriate authority of the particular country/state invloved so less not make this a major case here but is worth knowing that gambling as it stands has rules and those rules is been mapped out by individual gambling company.

Nothing like they are scamming us when it is you by yourself that took yourself to them and chose them as your preferred casino, gambling is not by force, we decide where, which and how we do it, it's a creativity with fun, a series of events that should be pleasurable for us and if we detect any bug concerning a casino it's our duty to report such or take a leave from using such, that's why you gamble while your money is being involved in other for you to create value in what you're doing.

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There is a particular gambling site I stumbled on. It was so obvious that they where manipulating the whole process. Some are programmed to favour only them but there are good number of gambling site that favours the players as well.

Always stake what you can afford to loss.

This is a business and sole aim of business is to make profit.

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Quote from: wiss19 on March 20, 2023, 12:24:01 PM

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Quote from: RILWAN on March 17, 2023, 04:04:06 PM

Casinos are just like every other business and at they will easily set the system to support only themselves and protect the interest of the casino's revenue generation is the primary aim of casinos so at that it will be better if we have the mindset of losing to the house but not all the time.

it is not easy to set a system in a casino business mate because this is full of important skills and knowledge to conduct , because if this is just like other business to set up then maybe half of us here are having a casino business now.
but what you have said is correct that only the generation of money is what they are concerned and just a bit for the players concern.
money will always be the main purpose as like what all business is.

What do you guys actually expect? Should casinos let themselves go bankrupt and out of business? They wouldn't do that, and to be honest, casinos don't hide the fact that they have an advantage over the players, they call it the house edge and almost every casino has it, for some, it is quite lower while for others it's higher. It also differs from every other game that you play in a casino.

So the house definitely has an edge over the gamblers, and almost every gambler understands this they still gamble because this isn't considered cheating if they are open about it as it is a part of the business.

It's not everybody that knows the fact that casinos can't be beaten, many believe they can be so rich through it and even make them bankrupt. But experience later convince them. If more people know that casinos can't be beaten and will be difficult to make any money from them, the patronage will be so little as they wouldn't even have tried it at all since it's a trap.

The naivety of many people makes them continue to play, and some with big money, but how many could vouch that they are winning than losing? It will be slim, which is why I like sportsbooks if you want to be fairly treated and gamble reasonably if you know your selection.

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Quote from: Ebede on March 20, 2023, 04:44:13 PM

Gambling is a choice less we forgot that this companies are register with the appropriate authority of the particular country/state invloved so less not make this a major case here but is worth knowing that gambling as it stands has rules and those rules is been mapped out by individual gambling company.

We all have a choice to select and choose any casino that we want and losing a bet does not mean that we are going to be losing forever. Improvement is the key since luck does not work for anybody. Those who have luck had already worked from it and them using it to make more money is from there efforts they have made. In fact all of us can not be a winner as a gambler.

it is not mandatory that everybody must to make use of one casino game in order to play whatever time you want to play which is 13 or because of we know it very well and we'll have mustard such a particular casino that is why every person have the right to select any casino he wish

Always falls down on someones preference and since we do make use of our own money then it is really that our right on which place we would tend to stay up.It does really vary and speaking about gambling platforms then we do know that not all would really be that legit and truly that honest with their motives and this is why it would really be just that ideal and wise if we do really stick up into places on which
we do know that it does have that right reputation and credibility. Speaking about fairness then you can somewhat assure that you are on the right place if there would be lots of
people who had been staying on these platforms.

In other words, we should always consider the implementation of DYOR so that we are not fooled into thinking in the end that we have nothing to fight against or sue a casino that turns out to be Fraud.

It is still different that we will play in a casino that has been tested in this industry and there are really many gamblers who play such as stakescom, Duelbits, Fortune jack, Rollbit and other gambling platforms that can be found here in the forum.

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Quote from: cafter on March 05, 2023, 10:59:45 AM

We really like to play gambling online , and there are lot of crypto gambling sites out there ,
many times i doubted the provably fair system, that these casinos are cheating me, but what can i do ,
i come across this YouTube video that a biggest gambling site supervisor telling the truth about these sites,
that they analyze our bets and try to make us lose ,
what are your thoughts ,
i know provably system but many times i doubted it, i don't know this person is talking about crypto gambling or not but may be it also applies in crypto gambling.
most of you also may doubted the casino ,
video: https://youtu.be/ABj7peI_R2M

I think this is something that I am not shocked to know since online gambling can be manipulated since there is a system that you do not fully understand how it works. Online gambling sites could probably use these tactics of making hard for the players to win since they want them to feel the adrenaline of losing so that they would want to play more. Also, these companies want to earn, and making it online makes it easier to manipulate and be susceptible to tricks. So, I think this is the reality with the online gambling scene.

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Quote from: Newlifebtc on March 20, 2023, 05:32:06 PM

Quote from: Desmong on March 20, 2023, 05:24:56 PM

Quote from: Ebede on March 20, 2023, 04:44:13 PM

Gambling is a choice less we forgot that this companies are register with the appropriate authority of the particular country/state invloved so less not make this a major case here but is worth knowing that gambling as it stands has rules and those rules is been mapped out by individual gambling company.

We all have a choice to select and choose any casino that we want and losing a bet does not mean that we are going to be losing forever. Improvement is the key since luck does not work for anybody. Those who have luck had already worked from it and them using it to make more money is from there efforts they have made. In fact all of us can not be a winner as a gambler.

it is not mandatory that everybody must to make use of one casino game in order to play whatever time you want to play which is 13 or because of we know it very well and we'll have mustard such a particular casino that is why every person have the right to select any casino he wish

why come to this conversation ? have you literally read the topic? or you are just posting to count for weekly obligation?
better tell these words to the victim of your scam site in signature .

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Quote from: NicNacCoin on March 20, 2023, 06:01:48 PM

OP I clearly understood what you said. In fact there are many bets depending on which bets are fixed in some cases. Like wrestling game it depends on betting I think it is fixing. Then the wrestling game is probably fixing depending on the size of the bet. But you and all of us who are involved in gambling should bet on all the sports betting available. Then there will definitely be no possibility of cheating. However, gamblers never gamble with these things in mind. Gambling is a game entirely based on luck. With good luck you can definitely win from here.

Nah, he means that they are trying to analyze your bets and make you lose. Let's say you are playing crash games and you are always winning in 2.xx below in some time and they check that you already won a lot, so they will be altering their algorithm to make you lose in one bet and mostly when your betting huge. Though I don't have hard proof on this, I can feel something wrong, mostly when I keep winning.

and that is how scam site works , changing their algorithm just to fool the players and take the win against Him?

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Quote from: cafter on March 05, 2023, 10:59:45 AM

We really like to play gambling online , and there are lot of crypto gambling sites out there ,
many times i doubted the provably fair system, that these casinos are cheating me, but what can i do ,
i come across this YouTube video that a biggest gambling site supervisor telling the truth about these sites,
that they analyze our bets and try to make us lose ,
what are your thoughts ,
i know provably system but many times i doubted it, i don't know this person is talking about crypto gambling or not but may be it also applies in crypto gambling.
most of you also may doubted the casino ,
video: https://youtu.be/ABj7peI_R2M

Casino will try how to get money from clients and the client will think how to earn money from the casino. However, the gambling will be a condition in the demands of the two. Who will win the game will get the money. And this is very clear concept. But if some casino sites try to violate the rules for corruption, it is different issue. Those who have achieved good reputation in the casino platform they will not do anything like corruption. But if many new casinos brings dishonest enthusiasm, such an image can be seen but these issues are often hidden.

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Quote from: NicNacCoin on March 20, 2023, 06:01:48 PM

OP I clearly understood what you said. In fact there are many bets depending on which bets are fixed in some cases. Like wrestling game it depends on betting I think it is fixing. Then the wrestling game is probably fixing depending on the size of the bet. But you and all of us who are involved in gambling should bet on all the sports betting available. Then there will definitely be no possibility of cheating. However, gamblers never gamble with these things in mind. Gambling is a game entirely based on luck. With good luck you can definitely win from here.

Nah, he means that they are trying to analyze your bets and make you lose. Let's say you are playing crash games and you are always winning in 2.xx below in some time and they check that you already won a lot, so they will be altering their algorithm to make you lose in one bet and mostly when your betting huge. Though I don't have hard proof on this, I can feel something wrong, mostly when I keep winning.

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Quote from: erep on March 18, 2023, 12:12:02 PM

Quote from: traderethereum on March 18, 2023, 10:37:55 AM

We already realize that in gambling, there are only wins and losses, so we will not cross that line.
If people could think of gambling as entertainment, surely they would be fine and the number of addicts who are addicted to gambling could decrease.
But sadly, that's hard to be true because some people they think of gambling as a way to get quick money when it's not.

So any facts found in the gambling system according to the OP's statement are based on video reviews from YouTube, but we agree with your discussion above that we place gambling only as entertainment and not passive income, so we choose sports gambling because pure winnings are determined based on match scores and not from the casino system.

And we don't have to believe in the reviews on the website or social media like Youtube and others because that's not necessarily true.
We should look for casino sites from this forum which can be a place to enjoy playing gambling moments.
Maybe some casinos will be fraudulent, but as long as we can be careful in choosing the casino, we can avoid being scammed.
And I agree that just to make gambling entertaining and not think gambling is for passive income.

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Quote from: Eternad on March 18, 2023, 10:29:54 AM

Quote from: tusandii on March 18, 2023, 10:22:18 AM

Usually those who are really involved in gambling will be able to accept and be responsible for all the risks that will occur.

This is not the reality, Most of the people that heavily involved in gambling loss their funds and even life savings on worst case. Only streamers manage to play gambling extravagantly due to their partnership to the casino that gives them extra credit to play and endorse gambling games.

Most of the addicted gambler know the risk but they usually ignores it by keep betting in the quest to get rich.

In gambling, it is clear to always bet as much as possible and there is no need to overdo it. If gamblers bet using their life savings, then obviously this is an inappropriate action so that it will only make it difficult for themselves in the future.
I said that as a gambler, you must be responsible and be able to accept all risks and that is true, all gamblers will definitely accept the risk.
Are you unable to think further ahead, with a gambling addict realizing and ignoring the risks to continue betting in the hope of getting wealth it's the same they can accept the risks that will occur because if they can't be responsible and accept the risks then it's impossible to be able to continue betting in gambling.

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Quote from: Newlifebtc on March 20, 2023, 05:32:06 PM

Quote from: Desmong on March 20, 2023, 05:24:56 PM

Quote from: Ebede on March 20, 2023, 04:44:13 PM

Gambling is a choice less we forgot that this companies are register with the appropriate authority of the particular country/state invloved so less not make this a major case here but is worth knowing that gambling as it stands has rules and those rules is been mapped out by individual gambling company.

We all have a choice to select and choose any casino that we want and losing a bet does not mean that we are going to be losing forever. Improvement is the key since luck does not work for anybody. Those who have luck had already worked from it and them using it to make more money is from there efforts they have made. In fact all of us can not be a winner as a gambler.

it is not mandatory that everybody must to make use of one casino game in order to play whatever time you want to play which is 13 or because of we know it very well and we'll have mustard such a particular casino that is why every person have the right to select any casino he wish

Always falls down on someones preference and since we do make use of our own money then it is really that our right on which place we would tend to stay up.It does really vary and speaking about gambling platforms then we do know that not all would really be that legit and truly that honest with their motives and this is why it would really be just that ideal and wise if we do really stick up into places on which
we do know that it does have that right reputation and credibility. Speaking about fairness then you can somewhat assure that you are on the right place if there would be lots of
people who had been staying on these platforms.

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OP I clearly understood what you said. In fact there are many bets depending on which bets are fixed in some cases. Like wrestling game it depends on betting I think it is fixing. Then the wrestling game is probably fixing depending on the size of the bet. But you and all of us who are involved in gambling should bet on all the sports betting available. Then there will definitely be no possibility of cheating. However, gamblers never gamble with these things in mind. Gambling is a game entirely based on luck. With good luck you can definitely win from here.

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Quote from: Desmong on March 20, 2023, 05:24:56 PM

Quote from: Ebede on March 20, 2023, 04:44:13 PM

Gambling is a choice less we forgot that this companies are register with the appropriate authority of the particular country/state invloved so less not make this a major case here but is worth knowing that gambling as it stands has rules and those rules is been mapped out by individual gambling company.

We all have a choice to select and choose any casino that we want and losing a bet does not mean that we are going to be losing forever. Improvement is the key since luck does not work for anybody. Those who have luck had already worked from it and them using it to make more money is from there efforts they have made. In fact all of us can not be a winner as a gambler.

it is not mandatory that everybody must to make use of one casino game in order to play whatever time you want to play which is 13 or because of we know it very well and we'll have mustard such a particular casino that is why every person have the right to select any casino he wish

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Quote from: Ebede on March 20, 2023, 04:44:13 PM

Gambling is a choice less we forgot that this companies are register with the appropriate authority of the particular country/state invloved so less not make this a major case here but is worth knowing that gambling as it stands has rules and those rules is been mapped out by individual gambling company.

We all have a choice to select and choose any casino that we want and losing a bet does not mean that we are going to be losing forever. Improvement is the key since luck does not work for anybody. Those who have luck had already worked from it and them using it to make more money is from there efforts they have made. In fact all of us can not be a winner as a gambler.

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