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Quote from: South Park on March 16, 2023, 01:51:04 PM

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Quote from: Ebede on March 13, 2023, 05:39:37 PM

Do you know that some people does not control their anger in gambling even when they are losing and then when they are also benefiting or having profit in gambling so I think about the best thing to do in the gambling is to follow the method and have in mind that it will result out good or bad so anything can happen during the process

That's not good for those who can't control their anger in gambling because it can trigger them to continue gambling. And it should be noted that if you play gambling with anger, you will not be able to accept defeat after defeat that you get and you can continue gambling without stopping unless your money is up. But it also won't stop you from gambling because you could deposit more money to recover from previous losses.

And if that's the case, you'll end up with nothing but losing more. You should lower your anger first until you are completely calm, then you can try playing gambling. And if you can control your emotions after one round, you might be able to enjoy the gambling game you are playing.

People do all kind of stuff when they are in a highly emotional state and it is important to not do anything until that state goes away, now I will admit that like every single person out there I get mad as this is the natural reaction of our brain when something does not go our way and we are extremely frustrated, but nothing good comes from allowing those feelings to control us, especially when we are gambling and we could lose all our capital on a single bet.

On the time that it do happens then most of us would really be throwing and pointing out fingers mainly on the house on which we would really be having those thoughts that they arent fair at all and all of possible accusations that you would be throwing against them.Its not a shocking reaction anymore on which this is commonly people would be doing on raising up issues on the time that they had lost that much.
This is why its really important that you should really be that prepared for whatever things that might happen considering that you are dealing with gambling where risks is on the roof.
Stick with reputable and known platforms on which you could assure about fairness, of course they are building a business and they cant just let anyone to be winners. Grin

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Quote from: South Park on March 16, 2023, 01:51:04 PM

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Quote from: Ebede on March 13, 2023, 05:39:37 PM

Do you know that some people does not control their anger in gambling even when they are losing and then when they are also benefiting or having profit in gambling so I think about the best thing to do in the gambling is to follow the method and have in mind that it will result out good or bad so anything can happen during the process

That's not good for those who can't control their anger in gambling because it can trigger them to continue gambling. And it should be noted that if you play gambling with anger, you will not be able to accept defeat after defeat that you get and you can continue gambling without stopping unless your money is up. But it also won't stop you from gambling because you could deposit more money to recover from previous losses.

And if that's the case, you'll end up with nothing but losing more. You should lower your anger first until you are completely calm, then you can try playing gambling. And if you can control your emotions after one round, you might be able to enjoy the gambling game you are playing.

People do all kind of stuff when they are in a highly emotional state and it is important to not do anything until that state goes away, now I will admit that like every single person out there I get mad as this is the natural reaction of our brain when something does not go our way and we are extremely frustrated, but nothing good comes from allowing those feelings to control us, especially when we are gambling and we could lose all our capital on a single bet.

If we let our emotions take control of our gambling journey, we will surely lose track. It is very important that we are capable of managing our emotions in gambling because it has a huge impact on our decision-making. Those who feel mad due to losses could have a bigger chance of losing more and in ending, they might only be blaming the casino for the result. We should be mindful of our every action and decision and focus on how gambling could entertain us. I think having the proper mindset from the beginning will be a big help.

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Quote from: UserU on March 05, 2023, 11:28:38 AM

That's why players stick to reviews or megathreads of casinos to see which ones are worthy over time. There are a few reputable reviewers here, like GOSU and GamblingBro that have reviewed casinos from time to time.

After all, gambling is all about luck and house edges hence it's a business for making money.

Yes, gamblers should investigate, make some research on any casino they interested to play both here and other online sites. GamblingBro is a very good site to review a legit casino. I also thought that gambling is a lucky game but some gamblers said it is skill game. If gamblers know how to play well them he would be winning everytime. And that is where the skill comes in.

Gambling is for making money but not all are there to make money some are just to pass time with friends. And one thing I know is that nobody is willing to lost or waste money like that so gambling is to make money while GAME which is the general name in most times for fun. I think there is different between gambling and game.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on March 14, 2023, 07:07:49 AM

Quote from: Ebede on March 13, 2023, 05:39:37 PM

Do you know that some people does not control their anger in gambling even when they are losing and then when they are also benefiting or having profit in gambling so I think about the best thing to do in the gambling is to follow the method and have in mind that it will result out good or bad so anything can happen during the process

That's not good for those who can't control their anger in gambling because it can trigger them to continue gambling. And it should be noted that if you play gambling with anger, you will not be able to accept defeat after defeat that you get and you can continue gambling without stopping unless your money is up. But it also won't stop you from gambling because you could deposit more money to recover from previous losses.

And if that's the case, you'll end up with nothing but losing more. You should lower your anger first until you are completely calm, then you can try playing gambling. And if you can control your emotions after one round, you might be able to enjoy the gambling game you are playing.

People do all kind of stuff when they are in a highly emotional state and it is important to not do anything until that state goes away, now I will admit that like every single person out there I get mad as this is the natural reaction of our brain when something does not go our way and we are extremely frustrated, but nothing good comes from allowing those feelings to control us, especially when we are gambling and we could lose all our capital on a single bet.

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Quote from: Ebede on March 13, 2023, 05:39:37 PM

Do you know that some people does not control their anger in gambling even when they are losing and then when they are also benefiting or having profit in gambling so I think about the best thing to do in the gambling is to follow the method and have in mind that it will result out good or bad so anything can happen during the process

That's not good for those who can't control their anger in gambling because it can trigger them to continue gambling. And it should be noted that if you play gambling with anger, you will not be able to accept defeat after defeat that you get and you can continue gambling without stopping unless your money is up. But it also won't stop you from gambling because you could deposit more money to recover from previous losses.

And if that's the case, you'll end up with nothing but losing more. You should lower your anger first until you are completely calm, then you can try playing gambling. And if you can control your emotions after one round, you might be able to enjoy the gambling game you are playing.

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Anyway, let's assume that they really are scamming you guys then I think you should create a scam accusation to make them known here in Bitcointalk and people will know about their scheme of scamming people off of their money and we can avoid it right away unlike not knowing that they are scammers. You can help that way by creating scam accusation thread and to avoid having more victims. It is important to know if it's a legitimate casino or not and through SAT (scam acu thread) make people aware of it.

The thing is that in the video posted in the OP a guy "from the industry" is talking about another kind of "scam". It is more like "the Earth is flat, but they all tell you otherwise", that kind of "scam". It's about online casinos watching your every step, like they analyse your bets, your preferences ... and all that conspiracy theory stuff. It certainly attracts the attention of the general public, but it's a lie.

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Quote from: kenshi222 on March 13, 2023, 02:05:36 AM

Many gambling websites are in market,only some of them are legit.Many people wrote a program to make us small win and big loss.When I had time with my old crypto friend and new gamblers he shared me this view.After the emergence of gambling based on cryptocurrency,he became a gambler.In 2017,he had multiple his crypto to x4 times.Then he used multiple crypto based gambling sites.With his analysis,he had said me.I have to use the same website repeatedly to avoid of big loss.

Previously, did you not think that everyone's luck must be different.
Maybe your friend has been gambling since 2017 and managed to multiply his crypto more and more on several gambling sites that he relies on.
However, if you follow in your friend's footsteps and use the same gambling site, it is not certain that you will be able to get the same luck as your friend because he has his own predictions and analysis in every gambling game he plays.
I am actually of the view that you can never become a great and experienced gambler if you keep following other people's steps even if they are your own friends.

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Quote from: GxSTxV on March 13, 2023, 09:25:52 AM

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The games that you play have different algorithms and chances to win, but of course, the owner should always win in order to have a successful business. At the same time some casinos can easily go bankrupt due to bad management.

The bookie must always win, no matter how the bookie or casino owner will continue to benefit, that's the reason why the gambling industry is in great demand to continue to make more profits from users who only gamble without caring about their money that keeps coming in.

The game algorithm system in it has been arranged in such a way. Those who are given luck with a large jackpot are only a few people, it is to lure others to play and continue to put their money hoping to get the jackpot too. But the defeat will certainly be more than the victory that can be obtained.

Quote from: GxSTxV on March 13, 2023, 09:25:52 AM

Regarding the video you shared where an advisor of a known casino was talking about how they don't care about customers and make sure to make them lose more for me it seems like a bad and suspicious casino that doesn't care about their customers. Money laundering is also always present and some people find ways to trick the system and that’s why sometimes KYC process takes time.

Customers are only used as a profit field, especially finding unfair gambling sites.
But of course, not all gambling sites apply such cheating rules.
There are still some gambling sites that give their customers a pretty good reward.

KYC is certainly a sign that the casino is wise in stopping various criminal acts that can occur.
KYC is done gradually and it will be checked by the people behind the casino site.

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Quote from: Desmong on March 13, 2023, 05:31:33 PM

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Anyway, let's assume that they really are scamming you guys then I think you should create a scam accusation to make them known here in Bitcointalk and people will know about their scheme of scamming people off of their money and we can avoid it right away unlike not knowing that they are scammers. You can help that way by creating scam accusation thread and to avoid having more victims. It is important to know if it's a legitimate casino or not and through SAT (scam acu thread) make people aware of it.

And I can only add here to what you said, if someone is going to make an accusation against a casino, I hope they have evidence so that there is no problem. Because that is what is really important for the casino that is being complained about to take action.

Because sometimes, the situation is reversed, the complaining casino ends up embarrassing the complainant or the accused because of the lack of what they say against the gambling site they gambled on.

This kind of report or complain is mainly because of anger. My op is not happy like the way he was treated do he need to express himself in a harsh way. He supposed to post some evidence here so that we can take him very serious but we need to overlook it because the site he is complaining about is a good gambling sites with a lots of gamblers that are there betting and making Money frequently.

Do you know that some people does not control their anger in gambling even when they are losing and then when they are also benefiting or having profit in gambling so I think about the best thing to do in the gambling is to follow the method and have in mind that it will result out good or bad so anything can happen during the process

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Quote from: Ben Barubal on March 13, 2023, 04:43:12 AM

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Anyway, let's assume that they really are scamming you guys then I think you should create a scam accusation to make them known here in Bitcointalk and people will know about their scheme of scamming people off of their money and we can avoid it right away unlike not knowing that they are scammers. You can help that way by creating scam accusation thread and to avoid having more victims. It is important to know if it's a legitimate casino or not and through SAT (scam acu thread) make people aware of it.

And I can only add here to what you said, if someone is going to make an accusation against a casino, I hope they have evidence so that there is no problem. Because that is what is really important for the casino that is being complained about to take action.

Because sometimes, the situation is reversed, the complaining casino ends up embarrassing the complainant or the accused because of the lack of what they say against the gambling site they gambled on.

This kind of report or complain is mainly because of anger. My op is not happy like the way he was treated do he need to express himself in a harsh way. He supposed to post some evidence here so that we can take him very serious but we need to overlook it because the site he is complaining about is a good gambling sites with a lots of gamblers that are there betting and making Money frequently.

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The way i see gambling industry is similar to the alcohol industry to a very close point which is addiction and responsibility so we find that these companies always warn their customers to be careful with their gambling and the money they are willing to risk. Any adult who puts their money into a legitimate casino should take full responsibility for what may happen next. The games that you play have different algorithms and chances to win, but of course, the owner should always win in order to have a successful business. At the same time some casinos can easily go bankrupt due to bad management.

Regarding the video you shared where an advisor of a known casino was talking about how they don't care about customers and make sure to make them lose more for me it seems like a bad and suspicious casino that doesn't care about their customers. Money laundering is also always present and some people find ways to trick the system and that’s why sometimes KYC process takes time.

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Anyway, let's assume that they really are scamming you guys then I think you should create a scam accusation to make them known here in Bitcointalk and people will know about their scheme of scamming people off of their money and we can avoid it right away unlike not knowing that they are scammers. You can help that way by creating scam accusation thread and to avoid having more victims. It is important to know if it's a legitimate casino or not and through SAT (scam acu thread) make people aware of it.

And I can only add here to what you said, if someone is going to make an accusation against a casino, I hope they have evidence so that there is no problem. Because that is what is really important for the casino that is being complained about to take action.

Because sometimes, the situation is reversed, the complaining casino ends up embarrassing the complainant or the accused because of the lack of what they say against the gambling site they gambled on.

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Many gambling websites are in market,only some of them are legit.Many people wrote a program to make us small win and big loss.When I had time with my old crypto friend and new gamblers he shared me this view.After the emergence of gambling based on cryptocurrency,he became a gambler.In 2017,he had multiple his crypto to x4 times.Then he used multiple crypto based gambling sites.With his analysis,he had said me.I have to use the same website repeatedly to avoid of big loss.

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Anyway, let's assume that they really are scamming you guys then I think you should create a scam accusation to make them known here in Bitcointalk and people will know about their scheme of scamming people off of their money and we can avoid it right away unlike not knowing that they are scammers. You can help that way by creating scam accusation thread and to avoid having more victims. It is important to know if it's a legitimate casino or not and through SAT (scam acu thread) make people aware of it.

By "they" they mean all the casino platforms, and I don't think it's possible to open a scam accusation against all the casinos. Generally speaking, I think there can be some scam platforms out there, but that doesn't necessarily mean that all the casinos are scamming their customers. They do their business and earn their share while players play their games and either win or lose.

People shouldn't blame a casino if they lose money while gambling since it's their own choice. If you can't afford to lose anything, simply don't gamble, it's simple as that. But if you gamble, you should be ready for any consequences you might have to face.

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Quote from: Rufsilf on March 11, 2023, 06:02:27 PM

Such immoral ways should be stopped, but how? Gambling sites are growing and so are gamblers as well. Might some of these gamblers be very particular about the activity of the site/s that they are using but I don't think the majority have done this because I was sure that many don't just think about it rather than just enjoy playing while suffering losses. It is possible that many sites are doing this and a reason that we need to choose legit sites.

I don't think you got what Hispo was saying. To you, what does "legit sites" mean? Legit just means something that's not illegal, but that doesn't mean it's also the right thing to do. Hispo was trying to say that even some companies that are considered legit do some shady stuff to get people to buy from them or make more money. Just because something is legal doesn't make it morally right.

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Quote from: Hispo on March 11, 2023, 04:51:18 PM

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Anyway, let's assume that they really are scamming you guys then I think you should create a scam accusation to make them known here in Bitcointalk and people will know about their scheme of scamming people off of their money and we can avoid it right away unlike not knowing that they are scammers. You can help that way by creating scam accusation thread and to avoid having more victims. It is important to know if it's a legitimate casino or not and through SAT (scam acu thread) make people aware of it.

If you check out the Youtube video shared by OP, you would realize that they are not taking about scamming people explicitly, but rather it is a anonymous denunciation of some alleged practices of the industry. A scam (in the simplest way) occurs when the casino denies you your money, but data collection, tier systems, customer management is neither illegal or a scam, as far as I know.

As I said, there are companies (of all kind, not only casinos) which have devious morals and seek profit through unmoral ways. It is matter of being aware or them and seek better alternatives. That is one of the reasons some people opt not to buy Apple, Adobe, or even Google products.

Such immoral ways should be stopped, but how? Gambling sites are growing and so are gamblers as well. Might some of these gamblers be very particular about the activity of the site/s that they are using but I don't think the majority have done this because I was sure that many don't just think about it rather than just enjoy playing while suffering losses. It is possible that many sites are doing this and a reason that we need to choose legit sites.

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I've never heard of a casino screening out bets just to make us loss because I believe there is this provably fair policy and I've never doubted that policy of recent not after I trained myself not to gamble with emotions.
I believe OP might have encountered alot of losses lately and that is one factor that always promotes such posts like this.
There were times I felt the provably fair policy wasn't fair enough and I at some point that there was a serious bais in the things they do and I had to write to customer care but I later discovered that I needed to invest more in knowing the rudiments of a business rather than assume that all is well because of some few successes we had while trying to recover your pocket.

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Quote from: capedbaldy on March 11, 2023, 05:40:37 PM

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Anyway, let's assume that they really are scamming you guys then I think you should create a scam accusation to make them known here in Bitcointalk and people will know about their scheme of scamming people off of their money and we can avoid it right away unlike not knowing that they are scammers. You can help that way by creating scam accusation thread and to avoid having more victims. It is important to know if it's a legitimate casino or not and through SAT (scam acu thread) make people aware of it.

But on the time you do make out some thread about accusations then you should be sure on providing solid evidences because if you do really just make out some post basing up with some hunches then you would be ending up on getting ignored because you would be treated for some troll.This is why on the time that you would really be making out some claims that they are cheating then be sure that you
do really give out those solid proofs or else you would really be bashed.

We cant really make out some conclusions until its proven.If you do have hunches on being cheated or not fair then try to prove out, if failed then dont bother on
opening accusations in towards a particular site.

Each case regarding allegations must have specific explanations and concrete evidence that can be used as a review for the assessment of the casino site, so if it's just an assumption then you can't say they have deceived us.

So I agree with you, that we shouldn't waste our minds on vague accusations because many trolls accuse popular casino sites with unclear explanations and have no proof of accusations.

Personally, I will assume the accusers of this casinos, are probably gamblers who might have lost some substantial amount of money to this casinos while gambling, and them feeling angry and having no other way of attacking the casino, result to publishing false and unverifiable accusations against such casino, even without any form of proof.

In the past, when going to a land casinos was the only means of gambling, we have heard and read stories of how gamblers who were believed to have lost so much money on this casinos, went physical on them as a retaliation for the money they lost, some either resorted to robbing the casinos physically, or devising means through which they can hold the casino to randsome.

I believe the above, is simply what is playing out with most of the accusations we see here, but this time, in a digital way, since the casinos in question are online based, there is no way to go physical on them but online.

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Quote from: capedbaldy on March 11, 2023, 05:40:37 PM

Quote from: Hamphser on March 11, 2023, 04:39:24 PM

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Anyway, let's assume that they really are scamming you guys then I think you should create a scam accusation to make them known here in Bitcointalk and people will know about their scheme of scamming people off of their money and we can avoid it right away unlike not knowing that they are scammers. You can help that way by creating scam accusation thread and to avoid having more victims. It is important to know if it's a legitimate casino or not and through SAT (scam acu thread) make people aware of it.

But on the time you do make out some thread about accusations then you should be sure on providing solid evidences because if you do really just make out some post basing up with some hunches then you would be ending up on getting ignored because you would be treated for some troll.This is why on the time that you would really be making out some claims that they are cheating then be sure that you
do really give out those solid proofs or else you would really be bashed.

We cant really make out some conclusions until its proven.If you do have hunches on being cheated or not fair then try to prove out, if failed then dont bother on
opening accusations in towards a particular site.

Each case regarding allegations must have specific explanations and concrete evidence that can be used as a review for the assessment of the casino site, so if it's just an assumption then you can't say they have deceived us.

So I agree with you, that we shouldn't waste our minds on vague accusations because many trolls accuse popular casino sites with unclear explanations and have no proof of accusations.

And we know that competition is really high when it comes to gambling industry on which there are really instances where trolls made out some false accusations just to make a certain gambling site or platform
looks bad and this is their primary motive and this is why it is really that important that we should really know how to differentiate in between legit accusations into those trolling or not real ones.
It is really just hard to believe that known gambling sites would really be doing such foolish things considering that they are running a long term business and not short ones.
They cant just afford on having those shady acts behind because they do know that it would really be over for their business if they would really be running on that way.

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Quote from: Hamphser on March 11, 2023, 04:39:24 PM

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Anyway, let's assume that they really are scamming you guys then I think you should create a scam accusation to make them known here in Bitcointalk and people will know about their scheme of scamming people off of their money and we can avoid it right away unlike not knowing that they are scammers. You can help that way by creating scam accusation thread and to avoid having more victims. It is important to know if it's a legitimate casino or not and through SAT (scam acu thread) make people aware of it.

But on the time you do make out some thread about accusations then you should be sure on providing solid evidences because if you do really just make out some post basing up with some hunches then you would be ending up on getting ignored because you would be treated for some troll.This is why on the time that you would really be making out some claims that they are cheating then be sure that you
do really give out those solid proofs or else you would really be bashed.

We cant really make out some conclusions until its proven.If you do have hunches on being cheated or not fair then try to prove out, if failed then dont bother on
opening accusations in towards a particular site.

Each case regarding allegations must have specific explanations and concrete evidence that can be used as a review for the assessment of the casino site, so if it's just an assumption then you can't say they have deceived us.

So I agree with you, that we shouldn't waste our minds on vague accusations because many trolls accuse popular casino sites with unclear explanations and have no proof of accusations.

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