Topic: they are scamming us? - page 11. (Read 1859 times)

I highly agree, this is a business. So you are playing and putting the money at risk. It's like a game of life in which you really depend on luck and winning in casino games has really a low chance. Having a strategy and analyzing the game can sure give you a chance of winning but still, you are playing with luck.

And not all casino games are scammers and maybe they think the odds are always stacked against them, and that they'll always lose money which I think could add to their reasoning about the scam.

You need to carry your research about a casino before choosing them as your most preferred for gambling, you make deposit into their casino wallet and use your stake on varieties of bet all because you still trust them, then why must you know everything from their own end which does not have to concern you, once you start to doubt about a casino then it's better to give a pause and reset your choice by finding another which could be more preferred, but how long will you keep into this.

I do sports betting so there is no room for the casino to lie or manipulate anything when it comes to sports betting, I avoid casino games because they are games that depend on luck so I am not the lucky type of guy so I chose to just stay in the sports betting, as I don't play these casino games so I can't say for sure if casino x or y has been doing some sort of manipulation, I also don't know if people have been constantly checking whether casino x or y's games are provably fair, and I have not yet seen a site that is dedicated precisely to monitoring all casino games 24 hours a day to ensure that casino games are demonstrably fair

you, me and we all know that the license provider does little or nothing in relation to monitoring the casinos, so there is no authority that makes a constant check on the casinos, which every person needs to do always before starting to play in one and make the checking the game itself if it is a proven fair game or not, I think it is possible for people to be able to do this on their own, I hope I am not making any mistakes

Now about the video link, I confess I didn't click on it, for obvious reasons, you have the right to hear what these guys and so many other guys are talking about, but remember - these are their opinions, don't play based on that, check yourself whether or not the game is provably fair, this is the best path you should take.

When a casino claims they are provably fair and if they are reputed enough then we can trust their results are completely fair and you still can validate the results using provably fair validation tool so don't confuse with house edge and provably fair system and for your information the casino games are designed in a way to give high reward while lesser chance to achieve it.

I once talked to a live casino dealer and they said if you win it's because we won you not because you are good at tricks or anything like that, it's just a beautiful sentence you put out to your friends to seduce them.
The server controller has full control when you play gambling at their casino, if you happen to win the game you will definitely say that you are great and lucky but to be honest you have been loved by the casino controller.
That's what they specifically do but sometimes when you are given a win you are always greedy and want more.
You have to be aware of that my friend.

People can say whatever they want on those platforms with almost no repercussion for themselves even if they are lying, the probably fair system was created with the idea of demonstrating to the gamblers that the casino was not cheating them, and in my opinion this is a system that is relatively effective, could there be some casinos out there trying to cheat their customers? Yes, they exist, however an honest casino owner knows they do not need to cheat as the odds are already on their favor, they just need to attract more customers and that will be more than enough to make a lot of money.

Casino and bets scamming is as old as the world, the only way to have protection is to know when to stop... Not only by means of gambling, but also by means of using the same platform...

The chances of losing when gambling is very high,  many people don't know this until they have lost a lot already, if casino owners make the winning chances higher for players, their business will go bankrupt very soon, for them, there is a lot to make when players lose. This is the reason why I gamble when I have good amount of money laying around somewhere, gambling is more than just winning, you can have some satisfying fun out of it, especially when you are into a particular type of games on the casino website.

Focus more on having fun than expecting to win some big money fast, winning on gambling websites comes when you least expected, this is why you need to gamble with money you can afford to lose.

Owning a gambling casino is a profitable business which is why many people are trying to get into this business.
The house edge plays an important role in the gambling site's profits. It is what makes us lose our bets over the long term.
There are only few legit gambling sites whereas other sites just try to scam us in one way or other.
So we have to make sure we are using the right casino site before we make any deposits.

It's true what you said that casinos don't promise to make you rich, so that goes back to our initial goal of playing gambling. Do we play gambling to make rich or just for fun. If we have the goal of getting rich by playing gambling, then I say we will experience the opposite. Because if you aim for that, it means that we bring ambition and emotion in playing, whereas in gambling games things like that are things that must be avoided because it will make us lose a lot of money.
I'm sure someone who feels cheated is someone who loses, it's different if you win.

no matter how big the opportunities can be obtained from betting, still, the percentage of losing the gambler will be greater. You lose thousands of dollars and you are made to win by the bookies a thousand or two thousand dollars in one bet. that's the reality that happens in the casino.
but anyway, casino games are always fun. those who are already attached to gambling will find it difficult to get out. some even cannot control their desires related to finances. this business is fun but not necessarily profitable for gamblers. so the options are just to have fun or stress out about losing all the money.

It is important to understand that gambling is a business, and like any business, its ultimate goal is to make a profit. This is why we see poor players and a very rich gambling and casino industry. The industry is designed to make money, and it does so by manipulating the odds in its favor.
But this does not mean that players cannot win. While the odds may be against us, there are still many skilled players who are able to consistently beat the system. These players understand the games they are playing, and they know how to use strategy and skill to their advantage.

The casino does not promise to make its gamblers rich. It is simply impossible to make everyone rich. A gambling house is a business. The casino entertains you and you pay money for it. If you are lucky, you win a prize. But gamblers are rarely lucky. So don't count on luck. Earn money with your own work, not in the casino.

Choosing a good gambling site is considered as a good move but still, it is not the key to make money in gambling. Gambling platform are earning because of what they called as a house edge, it is pretty normal because it is a way for them to make money in their industry. For me it is not considered as scam like what many people say because as a gambler you accepted the risk, rules and regulation of the game before you wager your money. If you want to win in gambling then play your money smartly, play with your edge and make sure that you will only wager the amount of money that you are willing to lose.

Provably fair is fair mate and oke thing I finally accepted lately is the fact that gambling is a business and at such, is also profit oriented. I can't say for sure about any analysis but gambling is also a game of luck coupled with skills and with house edges then for sure it's a business of profit making.
Your link isn't active and you should try repasting the link as I'm also interested in eatch the video myself.

They actually do not need a "shitty algorithm" to cheat you, because they are in control of the configuration of the RTP for most of their in-house games. Just go to many of these Crypto casinos and you will find that they have a fixed house edge for these games, but we have tried to test those numbers and it is clear that it is not fixed.

They show you a piece of text that says "House edge = 1%" .....but they continuously change it slightly to balance their books. You also have third party Slots like Hacksaw games .... that offers casinos several different options for the RTP, so it is not a fixed house edge on those games. 

What is said on the video may be true, but then it is a reason for a trial in court, especially since, as a former employee of one of the largest gambling establishments says, without naming the company, otherwise it is just words casting a shadow on the entire industry.

Of course, they made a profit on it, how they will survive if they won't? Besides, as we noticed, the number of gambling casinos has increased which means, it is a profitable business. Casinos are businesses that exist to make a profit --a legitimate casinos are also subject to strict regulations and oversight to ensure that they operate fairly and honestly. This means that if a player wins big in a legitimate way, the casino is obligated to pay out the winnings. But the odds may be in the casino's favor statistically, there is always a chance that a player may win big and cause the casino to take a loss. This is simply a part of the risk that the casino assumes as a business.

OP already posted the link. Probably, you have missed it because it's unclickable. Anyway here it is:
https://youtu.be/ABj7peI_R2M

Casinos' main aim, as any other business, is to make money. However, if a gambler wins big in a legit way, then casino's owner have to embrasse the loss and pay the winning. It's still a risky business even if the odds are, statistically, in the casinos favour.

^ Definitely right.
The house edge of the casino is impossible for gamblers to consistently beat it.
And that is right, it matters that the casinos are businesses, and they need to make a profit to stay afloat. If they were constantly paying out large sums of money to every player who won, they would quickly go bankrupt. While it's not uncommon for some casinos to experience losses on a temporary basis, the vast majority of them are profitable in the long run. This is because the house edge ensures that they will win more often than not, which ultimately allows them to pay their bills and employees and stay in operation. While some may view gambling as a scam, others see it as a form of entertainment that they are willing to pay for. As long as players are aware of the risks and approach them responsibly, there is nothing inherently wrong with enjoying a game of chance now and then.