Topic: This happened many months ago but still wanted to share. (Read 864 times)

As I said before I do not use those websites so there is nothing for me to read, and while I agree that in theory people should read every single TOS from every single service they accept to use I think we are going to agree that almost no one does that since they pretty much already have an idea of what the TOS says anyway, so I do not see a problem with people skipping to read some of those TOS, but when it comes to a service or product in which you put money in then you need to read the TOS as many times as necessary to understand it and avoid violating any of the conditions found there.

Even if its free or doesnt really involved money but doesnt mean that you wouldnt really read up terms and conditions even with the simpliest service or platforms out there you would
really be needing to know on what are the rules involved with it.It might be not relevant for most people but if you do like not to experience any problems ahead then reading up
wont really be costing you an arm and leg.People would just regret if they had been blocked or prohibited because they had violated something.
This should be a lesson learned for us and reading up isnt really that  time consuming.

Exactly, I do not use social media websites like Facebook but I understand why people never bother to read the TOS as they are willing to give all their information for free, then why bother reading what kind of data they are getting from you when you are offering them everything that you have for free? But when it comes to a service in which you know you are going to put something that you care a lot, like money, then you need to read every single line of the TOS so you can avoid surprises in the future.

Not just complicated but it is sounding like too one-sided. Most gambling houses are running the illegal license or running without any permission from government which makes them to modify their terms and conditions according to their wish at any time.

When we're getting into any gambling house, we may go for checking their license information and then we may get start with them but actually they are not bind to to our country which makes them to freely act upon when we are making profits with them. I guess this was what happened for the case of OP.

Is it just me or do I not understand what terms the OP violated? It looks way too sketchy to me. My guess would be that his high earnings triggered some sort of security system that blocked him. However, I still don't get how's OP is in the wrong here. Fortunately, his original deposit was at least re-credited.
From their response, their terms of service look quite complicated.

But if those users do have at least the time on reading up those terms and conditions then they would really be saving up themselves into the hassle or possible problem on withdrawing funds.

Majority of us knows on what are the primary motive of these bonuses and perks which do look to be good in most cases where we do think that we do have the edge
but for those who don't have experience then they are the ones who do easily fall out.

For experienced ones then they would just simply skip and ignore no matter how big the offer is.

You can learn on the job just dont gamble a large amount each turn while doing so.   I'd hope I would not fall foul of this example because I often bet low to start at least, but also I doubt I'd ever accumulate such a large amount as 20k because of avoiding the larger bet.   Seems like catch 22 to me, I guess you had to put a ton of time on smaller bets and in theory this might add up to greater risk and involvement in possible loss before collecting.    Not a fan of multiple if buts then maybe sometimes on conditions of, I'll surely trip up just playing the game on at least one count.   Sticking to what I know is not a bad idea but not being adventurous likely loses many decent offers that can pop up, I just prefer a few less catches with it.

That is why the super bonuses are offered to new customers who don't even care to read the full terms and conditions. The purpose of the bonus is usually to keep users inside the platform and the longer gamblers play the higher chance of getting bust. It is just a matter of time and reading the conditions of withdrawing a bonus can save time&money. False advertisement victims call the casino scam after they refuse to pay the winnings due to blah blah reasons...

P.S: Just reading the whole conditions of deposit or welcome bonus will be better than wasting time on various forums to complain about the blocked casino account. I prefer not to mess with bonuses or welcome packages if the casino doesn't have good reputation.

I agree to this extent but this would be only into those shady gambling sites but i doubt that popular gambling sites wont do such thing but who knows right?
Ive seen some situation where Terms and conditions had been changed after a big hit but this is actually on rare case because shady houses wont really tend to leave out trace
and also not all gamblers are really reading up site terms from time to time this is why making out complaints is something that they cant do
since they cant able to prove out.

I don't really like to read rules and instructions.  This is a very boring activity. 

In one of the James Bond films, the instructor gives 007 a new spy invention - a pistol with rocket cartridges.  James Bond raises his pistol, then picks up a thick book, tosses it in the air and blows it to the dust with a rocket bullet.  The instructor shakes his head reproachfully.  "James, that was the manual for this jet pistol!" 

I'm a bit like James Bond.  I am an empiricist. 

I like to act and understand the rules of a particular game already during the game. 

However, this cannot be done in an online casino.  This can lead to financial losses.

Banned by who? Online casinos involve multiple jurisdictions and lots of them have no license (or Curacao license at best), anonymous, etc. Except there is some serious crime, governments won't spend their money handling unimportant but difficult cases.

Bonus: you should read "18 false advertising scandals that cost some brands millions" for the lol.

Additional thing you can do to avoid bad thing is by taking a screenshot of the ToS page or archive it.
It is possible that bad casino will do everything to refuse payment/big win from players by changing ToS as they wish after a player requested a withdrawal.
I've seen some casinos did this thing, changing ToS after players are able to win something from promo/bonuses.

Tough story.

The most annoying part is, would you have lost all your money they would not void anything.

Thats why I NEVER take any casino bonus offers .

Now I know I'm famous, thanks!

Some casinos do this "subtle deceptive practice" and some are not. For example, on the games and rounds board, you will see Duelbits' contests and everything explained clearly without referring to ToS and everyone is happy. Bitcasino's raffle also stated the rule on the OP without referring ToS. I have won both and they keep their promises. No additional rules hidden on ToS.

The problem with other weird casinos, they "hide" the additional rules on ToS. Why not put all the rules on the "bonus activation page" or where it is relevant. Obviously, they want to bait "good faith" customers.

Actually, there is law/regulation for this. For example, the rules have to be stated on the same page or they cannot just change ToS without notice. That said, even if they told you to read ToS, doesn't mean their practice is correct. As a customer, we are free to choose which casino to play. Don't go near the one that has weird rules.

First to say I am sorry because I cut many lines here, I didn't want to make a mess with quitting everything!

You guys read TOS, I deposit $50 and I check how everything goes without reading TOS! I read it just when I have some problems! "Real gamblers do not read TOS!" is a borrowed line from "mu_enrico", a famous bitcointalk slot player! I liked that sentence, I saw some truth in that... but I know that reading TOS can save us from some problems, it's why I wrote "joke or not, I don't know"! Just because it's written, it doesn't mean it's true...  In the end, it's gambling... I respect casinos that are fair, I usually check that fairness with a deposit, and how I play I see for myself how fair they are!

Stedsm I really can't agree that all gamblers are the same... people are different! We have a different way of thinking/playing, different goals, and most important different bankrolls. While some "real gamblers" are aware of what gambling is, what risking money is, understanding the games and applicable strategies, some are clueless! I don't know should I go that way, but I saw many "irrational" gamblers, people who just wish to win and think that gambling is easy money, some of them risk money that is not theirs! Fake gamblers that just exploit giveaways and promotions... nooo, not a chance that all gamblers are the same!

If you are about to spend a handsome amount of money, reading the ToS of the site is worth your time. Are you gonna lose your funds because of not reading their terms? That  is being irresponsible on your part and if the site froze your account, it is not their fault but yours. So yes, reading the ToS is very important especially if you will send good amount of money.

Reading those TOS before engaging in any of the services on the internet is the most important thing you can do in the first move before using their services. especially when it involves money because the problem that might occur in the future cannot be flash back. It is important to consider that accepting those TOS is not the same when we are just randomly clicking accept when er play online games. Online services that involve money require us to read their FAQ and TOS before we deposit any money to their platform.

Would really be a good habit for you to do so on which you should be reading up those important informations even though its a bit lengthy but would really be worth to read if you are really eager to
know overall information about do's and donts on the site and you would be fully aware with that so that you will able to avoid into committing mistakes which might result into those non-valid wins
and that one do really sucks big time.You would just only realize when you already committed mistakes and you should really avoid this before its too late.
Mistakes is learning but don't tolerate it.

Reading TOS is very important even if it is not related to gambling, in any sites that you will use it always advisable to read the TOS. Because from since the start of using the site, you will always aware of possible errors ahead.

Even on myself, I am a little bit lazy upon reading a long content, sometimes I went to the FAQ which gives you a specific answer for the most frequently asked question. This is very worth it to read to avoid the mistake in the future and also you will become aware of the dos and don'ts of the site.