This shows how important is to always read the terms and conditions and even more important when you are using your bonus which usually has even more terms and conditions applied before you withdraw.Sorry for your trouble but I am sure you now never skip a reading of any term and conditions anymore.
Yep it's true that really important to read all the terms of conditions in all things. Before I always check the "I accept" button when I'm downloading something in my phone or when opening website. Then my cellphone got viruses and runs slowly. After that incident I realized that we should read carefully and thoroughly all the terms and conditions in all aspect from the small things to most important things like business and other important documents. We all made mistakes and it's normal. The most important is we learn from it. I'm sure you never skip reading of any terms and conditions. 
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You should also provide the casino details so that some other ignorant gambler like you does not fall in the same trap.
1)The casino seems to be legit as they have returned your deposit bonus as scam projects usually don't respond to your queries.
2)But the casino need to make changes into their script like popping up a warning message every time bet limit is crossed or invalid slot game is played with deposit bonus so that players are aware about the internal working of that particular casino because most of the players place high bets than $20 almost in hope of winning big.
3)Customer support should mail or pm the player if they are violating the casino rules immediately so that no further loss is incurred.
4)Being a gambler always try to read T&C of each and every casino you are involved in or placing bets on so that you are aware what they offer.
Hope you understand these things and try to be more clear in future and save your funds and winnings.
1)The casino seems to be legit as they have returned your deposit bonus as scam projects usually don't respond to your queries.
2)But the casino need to make changes into their script like popping up a warning message every time bet limit is crossed or invalid slot game is played with deposit bonus so that players are aware about the internal working of that particular casino because most of the players place high bets than $20 almost in hope of winning big.
3)Customer support should mail or pm the player if they are violating the casino rules immediately so that no further loss is incurred.
4)Being a gambler always try to read T&C of each and every casino you are involved in or placing bets on so that you are aware what they offer.
Hope you understand these things and try to be more clear in future and save your funds and winnings.
This is the reason why its a must to read the gambling site's terms and condition to be certain that you wont commit anything that is against their rules. It can be prevented if we take time reading their TOS and not hurry to try out our luck.
Well such winnings are really good but unfortunately become voided. Despite of all these violations, they still re-credited your original deposit and its a chance to try your luck again. Anyway its a lesson learned and reminders for gamblers to not do the same mistakes.
Well such winnings are really good but unfortunately become voided. Despite of all these violations, they still re-credited your original deposit and its a chance to try your luck again. Anyway its a lesson learned and reminders for gamblers to not do the same mistakes.
This shows how important is to always read the terms and conditions and even more important when you are using your bonus which usually has even more terms and conditions applied before you withdraw.Sorry for your trouble but I am sure you now never skip a reading of any term and conditions anymore.
Actually almost the same TOS/TOC of every online crypto gambling sites that's why many of them skip reading this because of that thing but yet some of them added or revised the normal conditions with their own so best to check it time to time.though there are scam site that even you have read the Terms yet they will find something to make you guilty of the violation.
but I'm not saying that this is the same case because its far different .
A very unpleasant situation, which is another reminder that you should always read the user agreement before using any gambling site.
+1 about this mate.Quote
In my opinion, the gambling site should have programmatically made it impossible to bet from the bonus account on the listed games and introduced the necessary limits. Otherwise it all looks very much like a not entirely honest business, with its creators covering their actions with a user agreement.
Same thoughts here , I believe that this is an intentional action from the site and showing that they are not so honest .Sorry for Him but more sorry for the site because i will never play in such company.
A very unpleasant situation, which is another reminder that you should always read the user agreement before using any gambling site.
In my opinion, the gambling site should have programmatically made it impossible to bet from the bonus account on the listed games and introduced the necessary limits. Otherwise it all looks very much like a not entirely honest business, with its creators covering their actions with a user agreement.
It is rare for users to read the user agreement as we most of us instantly check the box about it every time whether we are just creating a social media account. In my opinion, the gambling site should have programmatically made it impossible to bet from the bonus account on the listed games and introduced the necessary limits. Otherwise it all looks very much like a not entirely honest business, with its creators covering their actions with a user agreement.
I agree that the gambling site should just automatically make the be higher than 10$ be impossible to do as it is against their rules and agreement. Also, they should not let their users and players to use the bonus on other games which doesn't support the bonus program.
Knowing that the site intentionally do these things makes me wonder if the gambling site should be trusted as for me, I think that they tricking their users about this loopholes on their agreement. But still, us users can't do anything as these are within their rules and the agreement we've agreed on when creating an account on their gambling website.
This shows how important is to always read the terms and conditions and even more important when you are using your bonus which usually has even more terms and conditions applied before you withdraw.Sorry for your trouble but I am sure you now never skip a reading of any term and conditions anymore.
Actually almost the same TOS/TOC of every online crypto gambling sites that's why many of them skip reading this because of that thing but yet some of them added or revised the normal conditions with their own so best to check it time to time.though there are scam site that even you have read the Terms yet they will find something to make you guilty of the violation.
but I'm not saying that this is the same case because its far different .
In my opinion, the gambling site should have programmatically made it impossible to bet from the bonus account on the listed games and introduced the necessary limits. Otherwise it all looks very much like a not entirely honest business, with its creators covering their actions with a user agreement.
Unfortunately, this is very often the case and does not only affect online casinos. I know of a case where a user registered with an exchange via VPN and deposited BTC. During the withdraw, his account was checked, it was determined that he had registered via VPN and his account was blocked with reference to the "user agreements" - he never saw the BTCagain. The platforms take advantage of the fact that hardly anyone of us actually reads the user agreements or terms and conditions and then have a powerful weapon at hand to confiscate funds etc. in the event of a dispute. This ofc would most likely not stand up in any court, but the effort for a lawsuit is hardly ever taken ...
A very unpleasant situation, which is another reminder that you should always read the user agreement before using any gambling site.
In my opinion, the gambling site should have programmatically made it impossible to bet from the bonus account on the listed games and introduced the necessary limits. Otherwise it all looks very much like a not entirely honest business, with its creators covering their actions with a user agreement.
In my opinion, the gambling site should have programmatically made it impossible to bet from the bonus account on the listed games and introduced the necessary limits. Otherwise it all looks very much like a not entirely honest business, with its creators covering their actions with a user agreement.
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Unfortunately, in your case, the violations were severe and left us with no room for any kind of exception. Below are the main reasons we were forced to remove the winnings.
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I feel your pain.Unfortunately, in your case, the violations were severe and left us with no room for any kind of exception. Below are the main reasons we were forced to remove the winnings.
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I don't say anything about the bet amount limit but the 6-9 points they stated sound stupid. The bookmaker I play on also gives significant bonuses for deposits, black Friday, etc. And when you have bonus funds in your balance - you have to choose a balance to bet from when you make one. Like you chose a game, chose what you bet on, and then you choose from what balance you wanna play and if it's "bonus balance" it says like bonus funds are not playable in these games and at least it reminds if you play if will have certain consequences. That's kinda dumb of them.
That's why I hate stupid bonuses.
Yeah, most of the casinos make some stupid bonuses with huge bonus deposit but with some insane or stupid wager to be design make you lose on gambling. I rather playing without a bonus at all instance using bonus. There so much we need to do for deposit rules, Just right now read some story there has some limited betting amount I tough we only need to finish wager but without limited bet you are make.
For me it depends because not all bonuses are that bad whenever I see a bonus I usually check the rules to see if it's worth it or not.Yeah, most of the casinos make some stupid bonuses with huge bonus deposit but with some insane or stupid wager to be design make you lose on gambling. I rather playing without a bonus at all instance using bonus. There so much we need to do for deposit rules, Just right now read some story there has some limited betting amount I tough we only need to finish wager but without limited bet you are make.
The most common bonuses are usually the worst ones which is the first deposit bonus that sometimes include free spins but there are still good ones you can find from time to time that doesn't have any wagering requirements.
Nobody is perfect in the first place, so let's help this guy cope up with the stress that has been happening with him right now.
OP already said on the previous page that he already moved on from it so he probably doesn't need help at this point. 
In todays age, I think that most if not all people would actually care to read the terms and conditions of the casino. So many paragraphs that in all honesty, these players don't read the said terms and conditions and just tick the box and continue playing to the site or casino. Play with their hearts content until they realize they won't be able to withdraw the money because of some violations committed by the player.
This is unfortunate but also a good learning experience so that you can avoid this again. Not just in that casino but also on other casino and gambling joints you visit. Online or Offline.
This is unfortunate but also a good learning experience so that you can avoid this again. Not just in that casino but also on other casino and gambling joints you visit. Online or Offline.
I'm sorry to hear about what happened to you, Op. That's actually the importance of reading the terms and conditions beforehand so you'll know how to get rid of the possible violations that you might commit. Each casino site has its own rules and they aren't uniform so we should be mindful of it. If you're new to the gambling world, it's normal for you to encounter situations like this but take it as a lesson.
I understand what does Op went through, and everybody should take this as a reference for future possible errors. Nobody is perfect in the first place, so let's help this guy cope up with the stress that has been happening with him right now. Consider the previous failures as mortal sin, and my advice for him is to avoid ignoring some certain agreement which pertains towards security issues or rules that has been established by online gambling site.
This really can be one of the lessons to take every time we are going to play in a game or gambling or casino and whatever the platforms. And this is glad to see that you admitted this fault and can learn what faults that had been done. So, it can make you more careful and also pay more attention before playing.
Many people may not be kind like this, admitting their faults and then blaming the site because of its own faults. But you did great dude, you can get the point of the faults.
As we know, T&C is something very basic and also important to be understood. We must also read the FAQ of the platform before doing some activities there. Sometimes, we have just read the information once we are heading to face trouble. Whereas, the information is already provided in their FAQ. Utilizing any information of the site can minimize us to reduce the careless actions, suspicious activities, winning, and also withdrawal.
....totally my fault for not reading the terms
Many people may not be kind like this, admitting their faults and then blaming the site because of its own faults. But you did great dude, you can get the point of the faults.
As we know, T&C is something very basic and also important to be understood. We must also read the FAQ of the platform before doing some activities there. Sometimes, we have just read the information once we are heading to face trouble. Whereas, the information is already provided in their FAQ. Utilizing any information of the site can minimize us to reduce the careless actions, suspicious activities, winning, and also withdrawal.
That's why I hate stupid bonuses.
Yeah, most of the casinos make some stupid bonuses with huge bonus deposit but with some insane or stupid wager to be design make you lose on gambling. I rather playing without a bonus at all instance using bonus. There so much we need to do for deposit rules, Just right now read some story there has some limited betting amount I tough we only need to finish wager but without limited bet you are make.
Leason learner buddy, no matter how much you complain they win because ToS & Rules.
Everytime there's a promotion or bonus then thats already an auto ignore for my part because i do really suck on reaching out that wagered requirement and bust all of my balanceYeah, most of the casinos make some stupid bonuses with huge bonus deposit but with some insane or stupid wager to be design make you lose on gambling. I rather playing without a bonus at all instance using bonus. There so much we need to do for deposit rules, Just right now read some story there has some limited betting amount I tough we only need to finish wager but without limited bet you are make.
Leason learner buddy, no matter how much you complain they win because ToS & Rules.
and based up on my experience i havent managed to make withdrawal since from the beginning and this is why i do really promise to myself on not to deal with these things anymore.
I do much prefer on playing directly with my available balance without any strings attached.For OP situation then always read up the rules and its true that you cant do anything
but to deal with it since you had gone against with the rules.
That's why I hate stupid bonuses.
Yeah, most of the casinos make some stupid bonuses with huge bonus deposit but with some insane or stupid wager to be design make you lose on gambling. I rather playing without a bonus at all instance using bonus. There so much we need to do for deposit rules, Just right now read some story there has some limited betting amount I tough we only need to finish wager but without limited bet you are make.
Leason learner buddy, no matter how much you complain they win because ToS & Rules.
Yeah, most of the casinos make some stupid bonuses with huge bonus deposit but with some insane or stupid wager to be design make you lose on gambling. I rather playing without a bonus at all instance using bonus. There so much we need to do for deposit rules, Just right now read some story there has some limited betting amount I tough we only need to finish wager but without limited bet you are make.
Leason learner buddy, no matter how much you complain they win because ToS & Rules.
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I guess there 2 important conclusions can be drawn here:
1. Always read ToS
2. Be careful with the bonuses
Well, additionally not only TOS but also the FAQ --those frequently asked questions are the most important to know before using the site, this must be necessary to read before using the gambling site to avoid possible violating such TOS. Even though not of gambling websites, it is also applicable in all websites that you want to use, reading important details on TOS is worth it to know. I guess there 2 important conclusions can be drawn here:
1. Always read ToS
2. Be careful with the bonuses
However, we should thank the OP for what OP's experienced, perhaps, for now, we know and how to avoid those circumstances ahead and not don't let happen to us.
That's too bad, you've had so many wins and all in vain. But the list of violations is so long, did you not read the terms and conditions like at all? Though most of these violations regard bonuses, one should be careful with that stuff, the casinos won't simply give the money away that easily, there's always some kind of catch, which is why it's extremely important to read what you're dealing with at first.
I guess there 2 important conclusions can be drawn here:
1. Always read ToS
2. Be careful with the bonuses
Hopefully, many of the players already know that. Play safe and don't become an addict.
I guess there 2 important conclusions can be drawn here:
1. Always read ToS
2. Be careful with the bonuses
Hopefully, many of the players already know that. Play safe and don't become an addict.
This is also a part of what I've thought.. the OP seems to be too much onto gambling. Regardless of how his posts is seemed to be true (obviously made with long explanations and stories), his stories still isn't valid.
Valid or not, we can't hide the fact that it happens too for anybody. It's an awareness.
The point of the thread is to be aware of reading TOS, especially in a deposit bonus, promotions or events. There is always a term specifically for the deposit bonus, outside the terms of the usual gambling. I admit I'm tired of reading the whole TOS but not on the deposit and withdrawal part.
it is worth to read the ToS of the gambling site esp if you have considerable amount of deposit money. basically, the OP's thread is to remind gamblers, to give time to read the ToS of the site. each site has their own terms and conditions. so even if you know one particular site, the other site may differ with their rules or requirements.
some people will accuse the site of screwing them when their winnings are not released but good thing OP acknowledged his fault on this situation. but for some, they will find a way how to get their winnings to the point of making a scam accusation towards the site.
What i was hoping for was for them to reset my balance to the amount of when i finished the bonis playthrough approx 4k. They didnt want to compromise and i had a few $15 bets on one game before i finished the playthrough.
I don't think they will grant you that since you still continue the game and take advantage of it. If only you have realized to withdraw after the playthrough, the withdrawal will be granted.
I know the feeling of not getting that kind of amount. There is a site here before that offers a welcome bonus and I hit their wagering requirement plus big winnings. Because of greed, I created another account, received the bonus and hit that winning again. Since withdrawals are manual, they detect both accounts are owned by me so no withdrawals at the end but to compensate it (multi accounts are not on their rules) instead of banning my account, they give me a chance to used that bonus again but only for 1 account. And that time, it end up losing without even a thrilling win on the way.
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