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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on September 15, 2024, 12:48:58 PM

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Quote from: rachael9385 on July 30, 2024, 03:16:30 PM

Actually I don't know if this should be discussed here but I think it will make up a good discussion.
Although it's just for those that have joined a signal groups/channels for predictions, but still ended up losing. Am just curious to know how they feel when they paid for a prediction and finally lose the games even after paying their money thinking that the predictions are sure. IMO, this is a double loss thing.

No controversy about their feelings having paid for the signal service but still lost their bet, that's of course a double loss for them and I wonder how they will not feel so bad. I've always avoided the external predictor's package even though I know a few that are good with their results, our options matter as well, I only do the 1X2 betting to avoid issues for myself. To some people, it's a junior sports bettor's option, but to me, that's how I can reduce my risk and stay focused.

I wonder why there are gamblers who are willing to pay to join a prediction group. I also joined a prediction group but it's free. the requirement they ask for is to create an account on the betting site they provide. there is no obligation to bet there. they often share predictions for parlay bets. of course, you don't need to follow them all. sometimes I see it as a reference only, ignoring some matches that I think are less sure.
We can join a group, but if possible don't pay. We can see the predictions given, but the end result is we have to determine the bet wisely. don't because we join a paid group, the predictions shared will be very accurate. we still have to choose it.

Because they are just that too lazy on making up their own research
Because they are really believing that experts do exist
Because they do prefer on letting someone do make out bets in behalf of them
Because they've been told by someone
Because they do believe that easy money or wins exist

These are the common reasons on why a certain individual would really be having this kind of mindset on the moment that they will really be that considering on joining up some
groups on which they would really be that even paying up some subscription fees on which its a total BS on why these people arent really that making use of their senses or just simply
their realizations on which we know that when it comes to this manner, then it would really be that obvious that if they are good on making money then they would really be not minding
themselves on creating a group and would be letting someone to join for some peanut amounts.

You could really be able to tell yourself that it would really be just that too impossible that they could really be able to know on what are the things ahead.
You should really be that considering out at least on make betting on your own choice and your own analysis on which this one would really be worth.

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Quote from: hahay on September 15, 2024, 10:37:32 AM

However, when they decide to join such a group or channel then of course, they should also be prepared for the risk of double losses that are very likely to occur. Although, at first, maybe they just want to know how the prediction works whether it gives good or bad results. Thus, they will be able to determine whether to move forward or backward or abandon their intention to follow the experts' predictions.
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I have actually met such people (who try to buy "good" forecasts) and among them there were definitely smart/cunning ones who found loopholes in life and settled down well. And as you rightly say, they tried, saw how it all works (it is obvious that on average any forecasts lose to bookmakers) and left. In essence, they bought a certain experience and became convinced that there were no loopholes here and therefore they had nothing to do here. By the way, this is another confirmation that in order to be successful you don’t have to be smart (they could have understood purely on the basis of common sense that buying forecasts is nonsense), you just have to try, look for chances.

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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on September 15, 2024, 12:48:58 PM

I wonder why there are gamblers who are willing to pay to join a prediction group. I also joined a prediction group but it's free. the requirement they ask for is to create an account on the betting site they provide. there is no obligation to bet there. they often share predictions for parlay bets. of course, you don't need to follow them all. sometimes I see it as a reference only, ignoring some matches that I think are less sure.
We can join a group, but if possible don't pay. We can see the predictions given, but the end result is we have to determine the bet wisely. don't because we join a paid group, the predictions shared will be very accurate. we still have to choose it.

Because they are tempted by the betting winnings they share, this is turned into a promotion that others will be interested in joining their prediction signals... Don't be surprised if the signal owner requires you to bet on a certain casino with his reference code this is to get the commission you bet.

I avoid any form of betting that involves other people, because the results will not be the same so for me it will not be satisfied if you lose then obviously double losses that you have to accept...

Mostly I only share bets with friends; when he asks about the favorite bet then I say club A and you never follow the direction of the bet I may lose... make your own bet. That's the most I do with friends.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on July 30, 2024, 03:16:30 PM

Actually I don't know if this should be discussed here but I think it will make up a good discussion.
Although it's just for those that have joined a signal groups/channels for predictions, but still ended up losing. Am just curious to know how they feel when they paid for a prediction and finally lose the games even after paying their money thinking that the predictions are sure. IMO, this is a double loss thing.

No controversy about their feelings having paid for the signal service but still lost their bet, that's of course a double loss for them and I wonder how they will not feel so bad. I've always avoided the external predictor's package even though I know a few that are good with their results, our options matter as well, I only do the 1X2 betting to avoid issues for myself. To some people, it's a junior sports bettor's option, but to me, that's how I can reduce my risk and stay focused.

I wonder why there are gamblers who are willing to pay to join a prediction group. I also joined a prediction group but it's free. the requirement they ask for is to create an account on the betting site they provide. there is no obligation to bet there. they often share predictions for parlay bets. of course, you don't need to follow them all. sometimes I see it as a reference only, ignoring some matches that I think are less sure.
We can join a group, but if possible don't pay. We can see the predictions given, but the end result is we have to determine the bet wisely. don't because we join a paid group, the predictions shared will be very accurate. we still have to choose it.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on July 30, 2024, 03:16:30 PM

Actually I don't know if this should be discussed here but I think it will make up a good discussion.
Although it's just for those that have joined a signal groups/channels for predictions, but still ended up losing. Am just curious to know how they feel when they paid for a prediction and finally lose the games even after paying their money thinking that the predictions are sure. IMO, this is a double loss thing.

No controversy about their feelings having paid for the signal service but still lost their bet, that's of course a double loss for them and I wonder how they will not feel so bad. I've always avoided the external predictor's package even though I know a few that are good with their results, our options matter as well, I only do the 1X2 betting to avoid issues for myself. To some people, it's a junior sports bettor's option, but to me, that's how I can reduce my risk and stay focused.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on July 30, 2024, 03:16:30 PM

Actually I don't know if this should be discussed here but I think it will make up a good discussion.
Although it's just for those that have joined a signal groups/channels for predictions, but still ended up losing. Am just curious to know how they feel when they paid for a prediction and finally lose the games even after paying their money thinking that the predictions are sure. IMO, this is a double loss thing.

Gamble based on predictions will not have the same ratio as normal gamblers. The typical gambler loses only the bet money and the one who buys the prediction and bets they loss in both of the sides. In gambling one can never be sure who will win so no prediction should be 100% certain. This will further increase the loss. It should be remembered that those who attempt to sell such predictions they are not sure. If so, they too could have won by taking part in that bet.

Yes, they are lose in both but I guess they will not stop from betting and still think that is just one lose. They don't realizes that they can lose more money if the prediction is not right while they already pays the subscription fees. We can not get the right prediction even for those people who called as an expert because the match can change anytime. They should consider what if happen if they pay the fee but they still lose. That will make them desperate and they will just waste their money. That's why they must know that it is better they stay away from that signal group especially if they don't know who are them.

On more than one occasion when I was just starting out in trading I paid for many signal channels and that didn't give me any results , so yes , I lost money and doubled my profits After that I realized that the best way to not lose so much money was to learn and realize things based on my own arguments and this has helped me a lot , both in trading and in Sports betting games I have always trusted my judgment about football , when I lose it is because there really is something that Surprises me and I didn't see it coming.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on July 30, 2024, 03:16:30 PM

Actually I don't know if this should be discussed here but I think it will make up a good discussion.
Although it's just for those that have joined a signal groups/channels for predictions, but still ended up losing. Am just curious to know how they feel when they paid for a prediction and finally lose the games even after paying their money thinking that the predictions are sure. IMO, this is a double loss thing.

No one can guarantee a gambler's win, so those who give paid signals to place bets on gambling are complete frauds. And those who pay to take those signals, I think, they want to use gambling as their profession. If that is the case then I think their decision is a completely bad decision. Because gambling is just a fun thing here one can spend his free time and have fun wasting some money. However, gambling should never be used as a source of income or as a profession

I agree with you people who bet on other's advice or gamble with signals from a group are never meant to have fun they are meant to make money from gambling. And those who start gambling with such intention can never do anything good on the other hand they face a lot of financial loss. And when they face a lot of big losses! That's when they realize their mistakes. If you give them good advice now, they will misunderstand you because they are still very greedy. But when faced with a huge body of money, he will think of your advice. This is basically how gamblers suffer

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However, when they decide to join such a group or channel then of course, they should also be prepared for the risk of double losses that are very likely to occur. Although, at first, maybe they just want to know how the prediction works whether it gives good or bad results. Thus, they will be able to determine whether to move forward or backward or abandon their intention to follow the experts' predictions.

But for me personally, I will not choose a bet with the same choice as others because for me,each person or gambler has his own way to win, and that is what makes gambling more fun than just following the predictions of experts.

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Quote from: summonerrk on August 12, 2024, 03:39:47 AM

I absolutely agree with this, because if a gambler does not want to think with his own brain, he will not succeed. I do not know a single successful gambler who would buy forecasts from influencers. All those who were able to achieve something in gambling themselves are mathematicians or analysts - I mean, of course, strong poker players. I do not know any other successful gamblers. You need to be able to think independently, and love to analyze, this is the only way to succeed.

Successful players that I know are the ones that were heavily lucky and being lucky enough, they staked a huge amount and won a very huge amount too. Gambling is a game of chance, luck and unknown opportunity. If you luckily stake on the right opportunity or the right game and luckily for you, you also staked a huge amount and won the bet, that's going to be a huge profit. If success in gambling was bind to mathematical knowledge, then all mathematicians would have been successful gamblers but success doesn't without lucky.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on July 30, 2024, 03:16:30 PM

Actually I don't know if this should be discussed here but I think it will make up a good discussion.
Although it's just for those that have joined a signal groups/channels for predictions, but still ended up losing. Am just curious to know how they feel when they paid for a prediction and finally lose the games even after paying their money thinking that the predictions are sure. IMO, this is a double loss thing.

No one can guarantee a gambler's win, so those who give paid signals to place bets on gambling are complete frauds. And those who pay to take those signals, I think, they want to use gambling as their profession. If that is the case then I think their decision is a completely bad decision. Because gambling is just a fun thing here one can spend his free time and have fun wasting some money. However, gambling should never be used as a source of income or as a profession

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Quote from: rachael9385 on July 30, 2024, 03:16:30 PM

Actually I don't know if this should be discussed here but I think it will make up a good discussion.
Although it's just for those that have joined a signal groups/channels for predictions, but still ended up losing. Am just curious to know how they feel when they paid for a prediction and finally lose the games even after paying their money thinking that the predictions are sure. IMO, this is a double loss thing.

Gamble based on predictions will not have the same ratio as normal gamblers. The typical gambler loses only the bet money and the one who buys the prediction and bets they loss in both of the sides. In gambling one can never be sure who will win so no prediction should be 100% certain. This will further increase the loss. It should be remembered that those who attempt to sell such predictions they are not sure. If so, they too could have won by taking part in that bet.

Yes, they are lose in both but I guess they will not stop from betting and still think that is just one lose. They don't realizes that they can lose more money if the prediction is not right while they already pays the subscription fees. We can not get the right prediction even for those people who called as an expert because the match can change anytime. They should consider what if happen if they pay the fee but they still lose. That will make them desperate and they will just waste their money. That's why they must know that it is better they stay away from that signal group especially if they don't know who are them.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on July 30, 2024, 03:16:30 PM

IMO, this is a double loss thing.

It is very clear that this factor is a double loss in the gambling arena, they will pay twice, think logically which humans don't need a lot of money, unless they are crazy, if the prediction is 100% accurate of course those in their group will bet themselves, nonsense about predictions, those who make gambling predictions are not angels, they are humans just like us, not free from mistakes and errors.

In the past, I joined a prediction group and I compared their prediction results with my own, I opened a bet on two versions of their prediction results, I placed $5 and my personal prediction results, I placed $10, the final result of the match, my personal prediction came outaccurate, Since then I no longer believe in ridiculous predictions in all existing groups, to hell with ridiculous group predictions.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on July 30, 2024, 03:16:30 PM

Actually I don't know if this should be discussed here but I think it will make up a good discussion.
Although it's just for those that have joined a signal groups/channels for predictions, but still ended up losing. Am just curious to know how they feel when they paid for a prediction and finally lose the games even after paying their money thinking that the predictions are sure. IMO, this is a double loss thing.

Gamble based on predictions will not have the same ratio as normal gamblers. The typical gambler loses only the bet money and the one who buys the prediction and bets they loss in both of the sides. In gambling one can never be sure who will win so no prediction should be 100% certain. This will further increase the loss. It should be remembered that those who attempt to sell such predictions they are not sure. If so, they too could have won by taking part in that bet.

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Quote from: TheUltraElite on September 15, 2024, 05:48:44 AM

Quote from: DaNNy001 on August 12, 2024, 02:17:04 AM

It's funny that people subscribe to prediction channels when there are free predictions everywhere, the problem is that they feel like the free predictions have lower chances of playing out what they don't know is that these paid sites copy predictions from other sites, it's all a scam

You can compare this with free advice from charlatans about healthcare, eat this herb, sleep on this side, but the person will not bite the bullet and consult a physician.

Something being given out for free means you are the product, you will lose your money doing so and be made a fool with no place for legal retaliation. But many newbies fall for these tricks and lose money eventually ending their crypto career which ends up being short lived.

This is why we should make newbies aware of such scams and teach them to bet on what they analyze and not listen to someone else.

You nailed it.

If it's free then something must be fishy. Cheesy

Nothing is free in this world anymore, everything has a price, and even the water needs to be paid for. Next, it will be the air that we must also pay.
So, we should always doubt something if free prediction and signal things are being offered because somehow there's something wrong with it.
Why give it for free if you yourself can be rich because you know the results of the game? Those types of questions will help us doubt them first.
It's not free, a hidden agenda is somewhere between the lines, or they could be doing it for free and then you will pay the next time once they got lucky and gave you the right prediction one or two times.

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Quote from: TheUltraElite on September 15, 2024, 05:48:44 AM

Something being given out for free means you are the product, you will lose your money doing so and be made a fool with no place for legal retaliation. But many newbies fall for these tricks and lose money eventually ending their crypto career which ends up being short lived.

Yep, that's why they offer for free, what they want to get is people who subscribe their channel, they're not looking for genuine people. Sometime they will sell their channel when it's already big or become a brand ambassador by claiming to have big channel.

Quote from: DaNNy001 on August 12, 2024, 02:17:04 AM

It's funny that people subscribe to prediction channels when there are free predictions everywhere

Sometime something that require money or barrier to entry offer better "information" than the free one.

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Quote from: DaNNy001 on August 12, 2024, 02:17:04 AM

It's funny that people subscribe to prediction channels when there are free predictions everywhere, the problem is that they feel like the free predictions have lower chances of playing out what they don't know is that these paid sites copy predictions from other sites, it's all a scam

You can compare this with free advice from charlatans about healthcare, eat this herb, sleep on this side, but the person will not bite the bullet and consult a physician.

Something being given out for free means you are the product, you will lose your money doing so and be made a fool with no place for legal retaliation. But many newbies fall for these tricks and lose money eventually ending their crypto career which ends up being short lived.

This is why we should make newbies aware of such scams and teach them to bet on what they analyze and not listen to someone else.

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Quote from: DaNNy001 on August 12, 2024, 02:17:04 AM

Quote from: Nwada001 on July 30, 2024, 03:24:31 PM

I have joined most of those prediction channels, but I don't think I have ever paid for any game before, as I always prefer to use the free side and check the free games that they make available, compare them with what I have, and if they suit me, I play them, and if they don't, I leave them.

I hear that some of those paid channels that give out games usually compensate them with another game that they can use to recover what they have lost, which in some cases won't still play in their favour.

It's funny that people subscribe to prediction channels when there are free predictions everywhere, the problem is that they feel like the free predictions have lower chances of playing out what they don't know is that these paid sites copy predictions from other sites, it's all a scam... using forebet and soccervista combined with your own analysis can help out , it's not wise to rely completely on prediction sites...
Using paid sites is a total waste of money

I absolutely agree with this, because if a gambler does not want to think with his own brain, he will not succeed. I do not know a single successful gambler who would buy forecasts from influencers. All those who were able to achieve something in gambling themselves are mathematicians or analysts - I mean, of course, strong poker players. I do not know any other successful gamblers. You need to be able to think independently, and love to analyze, this is the only way to succeed.

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Quote from: DaNNy001 on August 12, 2024, 02:17:04 AM

Quote from: Nwada001 on July 30, 2024, 03:24:31 PM

I have joined most of those prediction channels, but I don't think I have ever paid for any game before, as I always prefer to use the free side and check the free games that they make available, compare them with what I have, and if they suit me, I play them, and if they don't, I leave them.

I hear that some of those paid channels that give out games usually compensate them with another game that they can use to recover what they have lost, which in some cases won't still play in their favour.

It's funny that people subscribe to prediction channels when there are free predictions everywhere, the problem is that they feel like the free predictions have lower chances of playing out what they don't know is that these paid sites copy predictions from other sites, it's all a scam... using forebet and soccervista combined with your own analysis can help out , it's not wise to rely completely on prediction sites...
Using paid sites is a total waste of money

Yeah, you should only use your own analysis, in my opinion, the opinions of others shouldn't shape your decision making in the slightest.

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Quote from: Nwada001 on July 30, 2024, 03:24:31 PM

I have joined most of those prediction channels, but I don't think I have ever paid for any game before, as I always prefer to use the free side and check the free games that they make available, compare them with what I have, and if they suit me, I play them, and if they don't, I leave them.

I hear that some of those paid channels that give out games usually compensate them with another game that they can use to recover what they have lost, which in some cases won't still play in their favour.

It's funny that people subscribe to prediction channels when there are free predictions everywhere, the problem is that they feel like the free predictions have lower chances of playing out what they don't know is that these paid sites copy predictions from other sites, it's all a scam... using forebet and soccervista combined with your own analysis can help out , it's not wise to rely completely on prediction sites...
Using paid sites is a total waste of money

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Quote from: rachael9385 on July 30, 2024, 03:16:30 PM

Actually I don't know if this should be discussed here but I think it will make up a good discussion.
Although it's just for those that have joined a signal groups/channels for predictions, but still ended up losing. Am just curious to know how they feel when they paid for a prediction and finally lose the games even after paying their money thinking that the predictions are sure. IMO, this is a double loss thing.

That's life for you, and that reason why gambling is all about luck because the prediction also boils down to luck. You can literally gambling without being lucky . So despite how one claim to be pro when it comes to prediction never go in with money you can't afford to lose , because one prediction can never be 100% accurate so is still base on probability either you win or lose . But sometimes the prediction do increase the chances of winning though that's when the person predicting Is really good Inthe game but still can't be 100% so just always have the mindset that you can either win or lose , because prediction is still boils down to luck.

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